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very pink on the trading floor. >> i actually saw "barbie", and in the theater there was a huge box and you could step into it and have your picture taken, which i declined to do. morgan brennan. thank you so much. that's going to do it for us. i did take a picture of my nieces. make sure to join us for "chris jansing reports" every weekday, 1:00 to 3:00 p.m. eastern on msnbc. our coverage continues with "katy tur reports" right now. good to be with you, i'm katy tur. the classified documents case now has a trial date. judge aileen cannon set it for may 20, 2024, near the end of the primary cycle meaning donald trump could be more than just a contender by then. he could be the republican nominee. if that happens, it will be a heady start to the general election.
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we have one of donald trump's former lawyers, tim parlatore here, to tell us what he thinks the legal team will do with that date. we'll ask him about the news from the january 6th investigation. one of his clients will be meeting with the special counsel. bernie kerik was the former president's lead voter fraud investigator. what could he tell jack smith, and will he be asked about donald trump's state of mind. nbc's vaughn hillyard reports that former trump aide william russell was asked that yesterday. as a reminder, this is russell right here with the former president at the ellipse on january 6th. could russell also corroborate any of what cassidy hutchinson said of that day? that trump knew the crowd was armed and that he was pushing to go to the capitol himself. joining me now is nbc news senior capitol hill correspondent garrett haake, good to have you. let's talk about a trial date. has the trump team responded in any way? >> they have, katy.
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they're claiming victory, despite the fact they had initially pushed to have the trial moved after the election. they are taking may, mid to late may and running with. they have foiled a doj plot here to go after donald trump in the middle of election season, and they're sort of right in the sense that a may time line gets you past most of the big primaries, gets you well into the winner take all territory, around the same time he locked up the nomination in 2016, so if they could kind of land the plane between him locking up the nomination and the convention in late summer, that would work as well as anything, if you have to have your candidate on trial during the middle of an election. >> what about william russell? what more do we know about what he was asked about and what he might know about, what he could potentially corroborate? >> right. this is somebody who's a close aide to former president trump, but not a high ranking one. he was in great physical proximity to the former president. we understand from a source familiar who talked to our
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colleague, vaughn hillyard, he was asked yesterday about the president's state of mind around the election and around the time of january 6th, it sort of fills in gaps about the idea of whether or not he knew that he had lost that election. by the way, this is not the first time russell was called to testify. we understand from a source that he was also asked in the past about the classified documents piece of this. he's clearly a person with wide knowledge based on his proximity to events in the oval office during that time period, so potentially valuable witness and one that the january 6th committee seems to have kind of missed, basically, in their investigation of these same issues. >> we have tim parlatore on in a second, we're going to ask him about this. can you bring us up to speed on bernie kerik and how he plays into this investigation? >> kerik is a trump ally, somebody who was pardoned by the former president, and somebody who was very involved in trying the investigate the elements of the stop the steal movement as it was sort of characterized at the time. he worked with rudy giuliani as
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pictured there, and other trump allies to find the information that the then president wanted to hear about a stolen election. again, somebody who was in if not the innermost circle of the trump world, certainly one of the closer in circles, and somebody privy to the information that speaks to the question of what donald trump knew or understood about the realities of the 2020 election, despite what he was saying publicly at the time. >> garrett, any word from mark meadows, a name we haven't heard much about lately, even though mark meadows was so central, as you pointed out so many times. so central in the january 6th hearings. >> the short answer is no, and i remain fascinated by this fact. mark meadows was the chief of staff of the president at that time, and up until then, it was the most successful and talkative figures in all of washington. over the last year, he's more or less disappeared political, and obviously he was kind of a white whale for the january 6th
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committee. they got his text messages, never got a chance to talk to him. every reporter who covers this for every network have been trying to figure out what degree he's spoken to any of these grand juries, to what evidence he might have. kind of his role and what he may or may not have told investigators either here or in georgia, one of the huge unanswered questions in all of the election related cases as far as i can tell. >> do we know for a fact he has spoken to jack smith's team? >> we don't. it's a mystery. >> garrett haake, much. >> maybe. >> joining me now, former attorney for donald trump, tim parlatore, currently representing former nypd commissioner, bernie kerik, it's good to have you. i want to get to your trial. let's talk about this trial date, may 20th trial date, what's your reaction to that? >> i think it makes sense. you know, i read the judge's decision, and she did analyze all the factors to find that
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this was a complex case. and so then she set out a schedule, very detailed, it goes through all the different deadlines of the motions and everything else. it was far more detailed than a lot of trial orders i've seen in federal cases, and it does lead out to may. does that mean the trial is actually going to go then? maybe, maybe not. i have had plenty of cases where we have, you know, success of five, ten different scheduling orders because this is based on the information that the judge has at the time that she issued it. she doesn't know whether the delays come in to play. and, you know, one of the things they're talking about there is the facility to view the classified materials, if there's a delay in that. if it takes longer to go through some of the motions, if there's any other type of issues. all of that can result in further successive trials, scheduling orders that would move it out. >> is it your expectation that
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donald trump's team is going to try it push it back farther? >> i would think so. i mean, it's one of those things where, yeah, again, i don't think i've ever, except for once had a case where the initial scheduling order actually matched what we did. just about every federal case, they do get pushed out continuously. i think as you get closer to those dates and you have evidence in hand where you can show the judge, this took longer than expected. we need more time. i do think it will get pushed out. i don't think it will be one single order that pushes it from may to september. it may be a couple more piecemeal. i think it will move again. >> which will explain why donald trump would be happy with may, it pushes it farther down the line. let me ask you about january 6th, classified documents, on january 6th, does it surprise you that donald trump got a target letter? >> it does. the timing of it is surprising to me, as well as the fact that
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they sent a target letter to him, and it appears target letters serve a very important purpose for the department of justice. it really is to give somebody notice and an opportunity to come in, and you know, try to cut a deal before they're indicted. often times it's spent to mid or low level of a conspiracy, so they can cut a cooperation deal against the boss. sending one to donald trump doesn't serve any of those normal purposes. it seems all it's doing is to give him an opportunity to come in and testify before the grand jury, which is not something he necessarily has a right to under the rules, but the timing of it seems odd to me as well because i know there are several key witnesses that they have not yet interviewed, and so it does give everybody the impression that we're talking about an indictment within a week, whereas my personal observations, i think it's a month away.
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>> tell me more about that. does that include your client, bernie kerik, who else? >> it does. that's exactly what i'm talking about. bernie kerik, we are working on scheduling an interview date for him, sometime in the first couple of weeks of august, and based on the information that he has and -- >> why is he such a key witness? >> because ultimately the proposed charges that have been reported were in this target letter, they all rely upon a corrupt intent or, you know, the state of mind of donald trump at the time of, you know, the evening of january 5th, morning of january 6th. whether he knew that there was fraud or not in the election, whether he knew that the results were legitimate or if he believed that the results were tainted by fraud, and so it's all going to come down to that state of mind, and that knowledge, and so what information that bernie kerik and rudy giuliani had that they
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presented to him is going to be central to the key element. >> has rudy giuliani been interviewed? >> my understanding from public reporting is that he was. >> got it. do you know anything about mark meadows, now that i have you here. has he been interviewed, any word about what's going on with him? i don't have any information about him unfortunately. >> you're talking about corrupt intent here, and i want to read the charges in the target letter. again, these don't mean these are going to be charges in an indictment. conspiracy to defraud the u.s., tampering with a witness. are you arguing that all of those specific charges need motivation behind it, need knowledge that he lost the election? >> correct. civil rights is slightly different but the other charges would require some form of an intent to defraud. and so if the intent to defraud
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is to convince people that he actually won when he lost, that does require him to have actual knowledge that he did, in fact, lose. it does require fraudulent statements, fraudulent intent that you are pushing something you know to be false. >> so you sent a letter to the january 6th committee regarding bernie kerik and what he knew and didn't know, and in the letter you said that mr. kerik and his team did not determine conclusively whether there was widespread fraud. you argue it was impossible to do so but he was not able to prove or find any evidence of systemic fraud. but donald trump and rudy giuliani and all of the players around them were going out and claiming that there was absolutely fraud, even though there was no actual evidence that was found. do you see that there might be a problem there?
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>> it's a little bit more nuanced than that. >> tell me why. >> we got to remember, bernie kerik, former police commissioner, former detective, the way that he looks at it as a criminal investigator is that the evidence that they found reaches the legal threshold in his mind of probable cause. that's not proof. it's not proof beyond a reasonable doubt. it's probably cause to believe that fraud had been committed, which as a criminal investigator, that gives you the reason why you should go and do a further investigation, and then based on, you know, the lack of resources and time, they weren't able to do that further investigation to conclusively prove or disprove, so really they were left with the probable cause. that's what he told the j6 committee and that's what we intend to explain to special counsel as well. >> let me ask you one other question. >> it's not so black and white of there's no evidence or there's absolute proof. >> but they've never won. no cases won. the vast majority were thrown
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out. there's been no evidence presented of any widespread fraud despite a lot of people looking for it. it just never came to fruition, so the idea that, you know, they weren't able to do so i think strikes some people as puzzling or dishonest, i think, is a better word for it. >> i think a lot of those cases, the majority of them were thrown out on standing issues. all of them were thrown out before they got into discovery, and that's part of the problem here is that none of these cases ever got really -- >> yeah, because the judges ruled they couldn't even get to that point because there wasn't even enough evidence to begin a court case. >> not exactly. a little different than that. let me ask you this. >> the u.s. government in terms of their success rate, the kind of cases they bring, only 0.4% of federal defendants were acquitted in 2022.
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71,954 people were criminally charged by the fed, only 290 of those went to trial and won. if you were donald trump's team, would you like those odds? >> when you look at it that way, one percentage that you missed there is what percentage of those who went to trial were acquitted. the vast majority of people that are arrested or charged, they are guilty. they plead guilty. those that go to trial, the acquittal rate is much much higher than that .04. >> tim parlatore, thank you so much. it's good to have you. hope you come back soon. >> absolutely. thank you. and get ready for big disruptions. 340,000 ups workers could walk off the job in one of the largest labor actions in u.s. history. i'll speak with teamsters union president shaun o'brien about what his workers want to do to avoid another chain supply
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is a supreme court decision an order or is it an option? because today it appears alabama's republican-controlled legislature is seeing it as an option, despite a 5-4 scotus ruling ordering a new map, the legislature is sticking with the old congressional map. joining me now is nbc news senior reporter, jayne tim. explain the ruling, explain what they're not doing? >> well, the supreme court last month affirmed a lower court's ruling that struck down alabama's maps, and said because one in five voters in alabama is black, you have to draw more representation for them in the congressional map.
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>> more than one district. >> one out of seven congressional districts. they said any remedial map is going to have two majority black states or something quite close to it. that's a direct quote. republican lawmakers are leaning very heavily into that something quite close it. they have put forward, moments ago, they put up their compromised map, one district, 50% black, another 40% black. 40% black, in alabama, black voters elect democrats. this is going to end up back in the court. this is not something -- the plaintiffs do not feel like this is a complaint. >> why would the supreme court as something as vague as or something close to it. i'm sure they know what they're doing in terms of language, and understanding the way that you can argue your way out when the language is not clear. >> i was quoting the lower court order, which they affirmed, the most specific part of that.
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it's a 200-page opinion, not all of which i have memorized, but they do have quite a few instructions. the idea is you need to be able to have an opportunity to elect the members of your choice. lawmakers are not putting data in front of lawmakers. >> what if they fast tracked, considering we're coming to an election. >> the district court, they will hear it in august 14th, and decide whether or not they want to stick with this map or appoint an outside expert to draw the maps. >> we'll get clarity pretty soon. jayne tim, thank you very much. and in a couple of weeks, we could see workers on picket lines, affecting tv, movies, deliveries and your car or hopeful car. what is happening and why now? next, unverified internal fbi memo is public. what exactly did uz it say? -- exactly does it say? -- exactly does it say
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unverified fbi memo that republicans claim is significant in their investigation of hunter biden and president biden has now been made public. senator chuck grassley released it in full. the iowa republican has been working alongside house oversight committee chairman james comer, as republicans deepen their probe into alleged corruption ahead of the 2024 election. while members on the oversight committee have already been able to review some of the information, this is the first time the entire document, which the fbi has called not credible, has been made public. joining me now is punch bowl cofounder, and msnbc political contributor, jake sherman, and rnc chairman, and current political analyst, michael steele, jake, what's senator grassley doing? >> it's a good question. you put the finer point that we all need to focus on here which is alleged. this is alleged. these are effectively notes, katy. notes from somebody who is making allegations, who is
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making claims about something that hunter biden might have, might not have done. this is in some ways, katy, this is like a really good encapsulation of where we are in american and congressional politics now. one side is going to say one thing. the other side is going to say something, and it's going to be for everybody else to find out, make up their own mind. even the people involved in this, katy, chuck grassley, and james comer say we don't know if it's true, we're trying to figure out if it's true also which is like, i mean, it's stunning if you think about it. these are not verified allegations. it's the subject of a congressional probe which is ongoing, and by the way, this justice department has examined this and passed on it in a lot of circumstances, so this is what this congress is going to be about. it is what it is, i think, at this point in the political
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realm. >> it feels a bit like the steele dossier. akin to that. parallel to that. >> it is, you know, splattering the wall with whatever you can, unverified facts and information. and getting pieces of it to stick, furthering the narrative that is in play on this committee to sort of, you know, tarnish both the president and his son without verifiable facts, and that's the end game. this is a form of owning the libs. you know, making the case that the biden family is, in fact, a crime family. >> it's like when donald trump would go out and say, many people are saying, many people are saying. and then he'd just drop something out there, and that would linger without any evidence to back it up. >> and those many people are are right here in my head, by many people are saying, and grassley
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knows better. he knows better. he knows. he's been a member of the body long enough to know that his behavior light now is unbecoming a senior member of the senate, but the politics, to jake's point is driving everything. >> is that surprising that senator grassley would do this? >> surprising and not surprising. grassley has made his career in some respects listening to whistleblowers and trying to figure out what's right, wrong, and indifferent about people who come to congress with claims about their employers. he's been a fierce advocate and protector of whistleblowers. it's a bit surprising to me that he's punting this out in the open and seeing who bites, but people, i think, katy, to zoom out to 30,000 feet, which we like to do, we like 30,000 feet. this is where congressional politics is right now, right? congressional politics is about headlines, especially in the
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oversight realm, and by the way, these hearings that they're holding on the house side at least are mostly theoretical and mccarthy, kevin mccarthy, the peeker spent a lot time saying why don't you ask me about this and that, maybe because marjorie taylor green was showing what's purported to be a naked photo of hunter biden during had hearing with hunter biden. it is surprising that grassley is doing it. it is not surprising that this is where the overall investigation has gone. >> can we linger a moment on the marjorie taylor greene stuch. what's going on there? >> did anyone say, hey, listen, maybe this is a bad idea, maybe we shouldn't be showing purported nude photos of anybody on the house floor. maybe this is a little
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distasteful? >> the interesting thing about congressional committeeses is they operate in a silo. the leadership should take control and say this is how you should conduct this. this is the idea we're keeping out there, and let's drive toward the idea without distractions, that's not how mccarthy operates. frankly, in the early 2010s, michael will remember when john boehner was the speaker, they conducted, in some respects, not all the time, but meaningful oversight of the programs like stimulus in 2009, and some of it was bs, i don't want to make you believe there were on the level. they did conduct meaningful oversight because he had a monitor on. the leadership did watch t. that is not what's happening now. mccarthy is trying to take a little bit more active of a role here as they hurdle toward impeaching any one of a number of members of the biden
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administration and even perhaps the president himself. when you're operating on the committees, they can kind of do what they want, and in today's congressional politics, katy, you are actually rewarded for doing things like this, and you're expected to do things like this from the base. and if she gets a slap on the wrist. i don't think she will. she's not, i don't think that's in the future, we won't care about that. >> clearly mccarthy is having a hard time watching over the entire country or maybe he doesn't want to. maybe that's the way the conference is. but beyond these investigations or the putting up or purported nude photos, there's real business that has to get done. you got to keep the lights on in the government, and there's going to be a big spending fight coming down the line. jake has been reporting on this. what are you anticipating to happen just between republicans on the looming spending fight we're going to see in september? >> i want to go back to a point
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that jake made which i think is important. we come in at 30,000 feet. at that level, you don't smell the stench of what's happening. and heergs like -- hearings like with marjorie taylor greene doing what she's going to do. somehow pivoting from nude photos to broad sweeping public policy, i don't know, that's like saying, oh, yeah, let's see, do i get to go to a porno public, or watch "gone with the wind, you know, come on. this is the gratuitous phase here. this is all about, you know, pushing stuff out into the ether that riles up the base and moves the money where it needs to move, and puts the democrats on the defensive, now, you're
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right. there's a come to jesus moment where you have to pay the bills and keep the lights on. instead of being proactive, yow going to see congress do what they always do, play catch up. >> when you gave me that movie choice, my producer got many my ear and said got to go. michael steel, jake sherman, happy friday, boys. what u.s. workers in entertainment and shipping and manufacturing are telling big business and what more strikes will mean for your life. including a looming 340,000 person strong ups strike. 0,000 person strong ups strike age is just a number, and mine's unlisted. try boost® high protein with 20 grams of protein for muscle health versus 16 grams in ensure® high protein. boost® high protein. now available in cinnabon® bakery-inspired flavor. learn more at boost.com/tv
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there has been talk of a soft landing for the u.s. economy and the possibility of avoiding a recession. but there are wild cards that could force a slow down. as you know, the writers and actors are striking. they could soon be joined by ups workers, trucking workers from yellow and auto workers from the big three auto makers. if those negotiations all fall through, well over half a million americans could be off the job and on the picket lines. that is not all. there's also a giant red flashing light in canada. an on again, off again strike at west court ports that threatens a global supply chain crisis. we have breaking news, don't go
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anywhere. how much do the workers get to share in the record profits. how much do the people who do the work matter? collectively, they argue, quite a lot. both the white house and the biden reelection campaign teams are watching all of this. the president meet briefly with the united auto workers head on wednesday, though while host not putting himself in the middle of allegations, they are worried if biden gets involved, it will undercut labor's leverage. let's look broadly for a moment, what could it mean to have almost 600,000 americans on strike all at once. >> it's the trickle down effect. the whole thing of we all matter, and so when you look at the individuals looking to strike from the ports to the trucking to the warehouses, it's the people that serve those folks that are going off the job. it's the caterers, the dry
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cleaners, the all of these people have the smack ripple effect. that's the problem in terms of the strikes, not just the people holding up the trade or the movies or the latest and greatest netflix film. everybody matters, and improu you see it and touched on it. they want a piece of the pie, the billion dollar pie. that is what we're facing right now. >> you have been covering the ports in canada, down here, an on again, affecting our supply chain. there's a little bit of breaking news on this now. what's going on? >> just a few ains ago, i got off the phone with the union and they told me they have cleared the first hurdle with the tentative deal, and so sfargt on tuesday, all of the union
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members for the west coast of the ports will be voting on this deal. as to the outcome of the vote, we will not know until several hours or several days. they have not given any guidance as to the outcome of that vote. >> so that would be partial good news for the supply chain. a ups strike would not be good for for it. is this the sort of thing that could send us into a recession? >> it most definitely can. the economy is pretty darn pra jil. when you're looking at the supply chain that's finally coming back together, any type of hiccup, we do not want. >> thank you very much for coming on and joining us to talk about everything going on. we appreciate it.
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joining me is the general president of the international brotherhood of teamsters, shaun o'brien. it's great to have you. are you worried about the supply chain and tipping the country into recession with the strike. >> i appreciate you taking the time to have us on the show. i'm not worried. our focus has been on taking care of the rank and file members, and making sure that their future is secure. ups should be asked that question. if ups doesn't given members what they warrant and deserve, ups will be going on strike. >> what are members asking for from ups? >> our members work hard. they work a ot of hours. they're working 60, 65 hours per week, getting forced in on their days off, and the
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part-time is 100 part-timers make less than $20 per hour, and these are unsung heroes, the oaks that load the packages, unload packages on the truck so we can provide goods and service through this country. during the pandemic, members were forced to live in awful conditions. we lost members who died. ups's prochts -- profits doubled awarded the stockholders, 50% increase in dividends. none of those folks helped provide any goods and services to this country. our members need to be rewarded. >> you're touching on what i keep hearing from union leaders. i was talking to fran drescher and she was decrying the amount of money that the studio heads were making compared to what the average actor was making. this is what you're saying here, look at what the ceos are making compared to what the average
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workers are making. what specifically do you want from ups, how much money, break time, what is it? >> it's economics. we saw 95% of noneconomic issues, now it's strictly down to money. tried to get the deal down, july 5th, ups walked out and said they have no more money to give the company we have been putting pressure on the company doing informational picketing practice, and so they called us on wednesday and asked if we could meet next week to try and get a deal. >> do you see the fact that the writers guild and sag-aftra picketing right now as a benefit to you? does it work to your advantage to also be on the picket line with 180,000 people. >> most people don't know we have 25,000 teamsters out of
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work in the motion picture industry because we are honoring the picket loins. we all have our own issues, it comes down to corporate greed. the people we're fighting at ups, the biggest customer and competitor is amazon. amazon is in streaming media. it comes down to rewarding main street, not wall street. and i think the attitudes of these corporations, it's criminal in the things they do to workers that provide them success. people are fed up. >> the president of the united states got involved in the railroad strike. that was alerted. do you want the president of the united states involved in negotiating this contract? >> absolutely not. i think reason people come to the table with reasonable expectations and solutions. we can get this thing done. my neighborhood, where i grew up in boston, there was conflict
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between two people and two parties, walk by and let them resolve their issues. >> the president is a huge labor ally. why would he not be helpful? >> he's a huge labor ally, i don't think they can be helping. ups knows what they need to give to our members. we know what our members need, and there's no reason for anybody to get involved. although the administration has been very supportive, acting secretary of labor you referee su -- julie sue has called in. we have been very clear on what our members want and need. we stated our entepgss for a year. this is totally in ups's court right now. >> sean o'brien. thank you very much, and this is not the only union negotiation we're going to be talking about. coming up next, why isn't anyone talking? what's happening in hollywood and who needs to change their
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cleaners, and caterers are suffering, along with support jobs in places like new york and los angeles. that's 185,000 more workers in new york who contribute 6.5% of the city's gdp. the los angeles economy could also be taking a taking a blow $30 million a day. in 2008, the writers strike in california lost nearly 38,000 jobs inside and outside of the entertainment business. joining me now is founding partner. matthew, i was reading your latest. what you are talking about is how no one's talking. why? >> there is absolutely no talking going on, because the temperature has just been raised up to 100 degrees here. the writers and actors are so upset. they perceive every little thing that the studios do to be a grievance, and they are out there in 90-degree heat in los angeles and new york, picketing. and they're really, really
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upset. the studios have sort of thrown up their hands for the time being. they don't know how to get back to the ble. they are not willing to budge on some of these bigger issues. we have an absolute standoff. >> who might come in to be the peacemaker? anyone trying to play that behind the scenes? >> yeah, it's interesting, because in past strikes in hollywood, there have been these statesmen types. bob iger, the ceo of disney, was one of these people in 2007-2008 in the previous strike. but he lit himself on fire with these comments he made last week where he said the writers are being unreasonable, they're disruptive. this is really not good for the industry as a whole. it just came across as tone deaf. so iger is sort of out at this point. i think there's going to need to be someone perceived as neutral, and coming from the outside. they had these federal mediators that have been involved in the previous negotiations.
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so perhaps they step up. there are figures like the l.a. mayor karen bass, who had taken some steps to familiarize herself with the issues, and she has some hollywood allies on the talent side and the studio side. so she can potentially be someone. the california governor, gavin newsom, has said that he's there and he wants to help if he can, but he hasn't done anything proactive. and adam schiff and katie porter, the congress people, they're out there picketing with the writers. so the studios are not going to accept them. so the politicians are iffy, but someone from the outside needs to step up here. >> let me ask you about what the studios released, and that's the deal they offered sag-aftra. they said --
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>> the actors were complaining that back ground actors especially would get hit really hard with ai. is this the studio saying no, they negotiated that out? >> there is a lot of back and forth going on right now between the studios and the actors, in particular. because if you talk to the head of the actor's guild, which i have, he says yeah, they put something on the table, but the devil was in the details. if you look at it, consent to use your image for ai was something that could have been included as clause 37 in a contract you have to sign in order to audition for a role. it was not informed consent. it was not something subject to a particular negotiation where you could be paid for it. they say they want very specific protections against this stuff, not the more general ai protections that the studios are offering. and that flankly, that already
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what starts with g and ends with l? goal. there's a lot of soccer tonight. lionel messi is set to make his miami debut. and the u.s. women's national team kicks off its first match of the world cup against vietnam. here's sam brock with the football fever. >> reporter: two of the most highly anticipated sporting events of the summer are about to kick off. soccer legend lionel messi will play for miami tonight against mexico city. and the women's world cup is already underway, with team usa in the spotlight, making their debut against vietnam also tonight in new zealand. the two show stoppers, showcasing the incredible football fever sweeping the nation. in miami, fans are over the moon
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abmessi. how would you describe the excitement? >> oh, it's crazy. it's a frenzy. >> reporter: bars and restaurants coast to coast are gearing up to host watch parties for all team usa matches from washington state to philly. >> it's something special for everyone to gather and watch. >> reporter: the sport, now finding major footing here at home. thanks in large part to the u.s. women's national team, led by star players megan rapinoe and alex morgan. >> it's going to take all of us, and it's going to take all of us at our best every step of the way. >> reporter: nbc's molly hunter is on the ground in aukland where team usa fans have found their way. >> we may be on the other side of the world. sit a very long strip to get here. these women are back for the action, and who are we cheering for? >> usa! usa! >> reporter: and don't forget messi's massive star power. a source of inspiration around
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the globe. >> it's a joy. >> reporter: messi's debut driving up ticket prices almost 500%. while over 1.4 million tickets have been sold for the women's world cup. the soccer stars aligning, during a special time for the world's most popular sport. >> that's going to do it for me today. "deadline: white house" starts right now. ♪ ♪ hi there, everyone. happy friday. it is 4:00 in the east, taking shape this afternoon what will surely be one of the most active, perhaps most dire inflection points in modern american political history. acollision of generational events, that will shape the future of our country's democracy. today provides crucial new clarity on how exactly it will all go down a

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