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you're watching msnbc. our second hour starts right now. welcome back, i'm lindsey reiser in for yasmin vossoughian. a crowded schedule with a new trial date set in his classified documents case. donald trump's 2024 calendar is filling up quickly. with legal appearances, scheduled to clash with his presidential campaign. that's before any potential indictment in the election interference investigation. in a moment, i'll talk to representatives oh lofgren, former january six committee member, about that case. also this hour, tragic and disturbing testimony in a texas courtroom. >> i would like to give birth to an identical version of my daughter. without a school. and without a brain. >> women suing the state of texas over its six-week
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abortion ban, share the heart shattering experiences that led them to say, enough is enough. behind the scenes, new reporting from the white house today on what led vice president kamala harris to make an unscheduled trip to florida to confront the states republicans over new teaching guidelines about slavery. all that, plus breaking entertainment news, jamie foxx makes his first public comments since he was sidelined by an unspecified medical emergency. >> i went to hell and back. i went to recovery, had -- some as well. i'm coming back. i'm able to work. >> we have new numbers in on barbenheimer. the dueling debuts of barbie and oppenheimer this week. which one is ruling the box office so far? that's coming up later this hour. we begin this hour with the former president and his mounting legal troubles. william russell, a former aide to trump, testified before a
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grand jury for hours on thursday. we're learning what he was questioned about. let's bring in nbc news justice reporter, ryan reilly. also the author of the upcoming book, sedition hunters. how january 6th broke the justice system. ryan, let's start with the election interference case. what can you tell us about this appearance from william russell? >> this is really critical. investigators really want to get to the heart of the question of, what exactly donald trump was doing between the time we lost the election in november 2020, and the time that january 6th happened. i think the other testimony that's really been out there as important, mike pence is. which happened awhile back. a number of people who really gone in to the grand jury. this is someone who's not testified in multiple times, indicating that there's that they're obviously very interested in. this is someone who was with trump at these critical moments, and knew what he was really thinking. mark meadows also someone who would know that. the question is about mark meadows, what exactly role he's
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playing in all of this right now? he's been pretty sidelined and quiet in this critical period. we don't know exactly what role he's playing. he certainly not an act of communication with a lot of the trump team, from what i understand. so, it's a big mystery to a lot of other defense attorneys who are representing other people who have now been sunk into this ongoing grand jury probe. >> ryan, i also want to ask you about the classified documents case. judge aileen cannon ruled that trial will start on may 20th, 2024. that's months after the doj's requested december trial date. what's the latest on this? are you hearing anything from your sources about whether this may date could be pushed back again? >> yeah, i mean, i was talking to someone last night, who does not think that's going to hold. when these things are initially scheduled, years after build in some flexibility. it just seems like, if any tripwire comes up, they could have a reason to delay it with the discovery issues, with two clients either on the come up,
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there is really going to be a complication of, can donald trump say, hey, i've got this campaign event going on. we've got to delay it because of that. he doesn't have a typical job. he's not a typical every day average go. i think that's gonna be this ongoing issue. the discovery, issues that i think they want to get this on the book earlier. when you're talking about something happening, scheduled for december, maybe there would be some flexibility, okay, it ends up happening at the beginning of the year. once you get deep into may, easily, okay, it gets kicked off a little bit more in the summer. suddenly, you're smacked avenue of all of this. you're in the middle of the general election, and not just the primary. >> right, okay. brian riley, thank you. i want to bring in congresswoman zoe lofgren. a democrat of california. who is a member of the january 6th committee. . ,. always good to talk to you. let's go ahead and start with the former president, receiving that target letter from the doj on election interference case. what's your reaction to this, especially as one of the members of the january 6th
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committee? >> well, i was heartened to see that, as you know, our committee compiled a very large amount of evidence. which indicated criminal liability on the part of the ex president. that's why we referred for criminal matters to the department of justice for further work. we don't know exactly the elements of the crimes that may be charged. we were able to uncover that the ex president was at the center of a multi faceted, wide ranging scheme, to overturn the election. essentially, as judge carter said in his evidentiary case, attempted coup. >> congresswoman, as far as the charges cited in the target letter, one of the charges does contain one of them in the
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january 6th committee recommended, conspiracy to defraud the u.s.. what about the other criminal referrals your committee made, just to remind everybody, they were obstruction of an official proceeding, conspiracy to make a false statement, and insight assist or aid and comfort an insurrection. >> correct. the conspiracy to defraud the united states is the same. we don't know, at this point, what the special prosecutor has in mind with the other two, certainly, there could be some overlap with the evidence that we were able to compile. and these charges. one of the things that intrigues me, it is the last charge, tampering with a witness. you know, we had some concerns about that, as a matter of fact, we mentioned that, and referred that to the department of justice for further review. i'm sure you recall, cassidy
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hutchinson's testimony in september. where she outlines the activities of her council, who was paid for by, her words, trump world. and that he had really encouraged her to commit perjury and obstructed committee. whether it's that, i don't know. i think we're gonna find out pretty soon. >> in addition to these charges, we know the committee provided the doj with evidence, with transcripts. how much do you think they picked up on the so-called road map that your committee created in this case? >> well, once you -- it interesting reporting. what they uncovered was, until the select committee started uncovering evidence, the department of justice was focusing only on the rioters themselves. not on the conspiracy. so, i hadn't realized it, on
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the committee was doing its work. i think, obviously, we played a key role in the department of justice taking a look at the inciter in chief, and doing the work necessary to bring these cases. it's very important for our country, they have, or will be brought. >> there have been reports, congresswoman, that speaker mccarthy made a deal with trump to hold a vote on expunging trump's two impeachments, which mccarthy denied to nbc news this week. although, he added he supports the idea. as someone who's worked on three different impeachments, what would this mean? and could something like that even pass? >> well, i don't know if it would pass or not. but it's meaningless. the fact is, the ex president was impeached twice. there were proceedings, he was acquitted in the senate. i will say, for the second impeachment, 57 out of 100 senators voted to convict. and the republican leaders said,
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he was guilty, trump was guilty. but he only voted to acquit because he was no longer in office. as you'll recall, i'm sure, leader mcconnell then said, he should be held to account through the justice system. that's what's happening now. >> obviously, congresswoman, it's all hypothetical, what i'm about to ask you, should it pass, and let's say next, year in the election, a new congress is seated in january, of i guess that would be 2025, democrats are in control. would you foresee a situation what your party would just repeal an expungement of two impeachments, and then do you fear wherein territory of an impeachment sort of being used as a political football? >> no, that would be dumb. the so-called expungement is something that doesn't exist in the law. whether they pass it or not, it doesn't mean anything. i don't think we waste our time dealing with that if we were in the majority. >> before you go, i want to ask
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you about the senate judiciary committee passage of a supreme court ethics bill. it narrowly made it out of committee on party lines. with democrats supporting it. key word, party lines. do you think something like this ever has the potential to come law? >> well, if the republicans think that the supreme court justices should be taking these extravagant trips worth hundreds of thousands of dollars secretly, maybe they won't insist on ethics. how you can defend that is really shocking to me. all the judges in the lower courts are required to adhere to ethics rules and disclosure rules, all the federal employees are. all the members of the house and senate are. why wouldn't the justices? i just think that the republicans would allow, what looks like corrupt behavior, to go forward it is really pretty shocking. >> representative is a lofgren,
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we'll have to leave it there. thank you for your time today. coming up in just 60 seconds, going to hell and back. that'll actor jamie foxx described a medical emergency that is kept him out of the spotlight for months. his emotional first comments, next. ts next age is just a number, and mine's unlisted. try boost® high protein with 20 grams of protein for muscle health versus 16 grams in ensure® high protein. boost® high protein. now available in cinnabon® bakery-inspired flavor.
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learn more at boost.com/tv we have a new update on award-winning where actor and performer, jamie fox. dealing with an undisclosed medical condition since april. today, fox opened up for the first time in months, posting a short video on instagram. with an update for his fans, i want to bring in abc news dana griffin for more on this, height, dana more on this what did he say? >> lindsey, good to see you too he incorporated some humor, he's had a lot of things, he cried and i really emotional. one thing he did not say, exactly what prompted him to go to the hospital in april? you know, for weeks rumors have been swirling and till his
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daughters posted to instagram that he had been released from the hospital, and been able to pay play pickleball. we haven't really seen him or heard for him. this but it was something that a lot of fans were reacting to, including celebrities. wishing him well, as he continues to recover. take a listen to what he had to say. >> first of, all i want to say thank you to everybody, that's prayed, sent me messages. i cannot even begin to tell you how far it took me, how it brought me back. i know a lot of people were waiting to hear updates, to be honest with you, i just in one e to see me like that, man. i want you see me laughing, having a good time, partying. cracking jokes, doing the movie. television show. i don't want to you to see me with tubes running out of me. and trying to figure out if i
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was going to make it through. i love all of y'all, i just want to jump in here let you know, i'm on my way back. >> obviously, receiving a lot of love and support online, and also, in that video he says, i went to hell and back. you can only imagine what he may have gone through. still, no answers on what specifically happened. there have been several rumors, even some speculation, that he might not make it. here he is alive and well, and sharing his story. we hope to hear more from him soon. he alluded on instagram, he's got some big things coming. maybe some new business ventures. we'll just keep watching and see what else happens. lindsey? >> okay, dana griffin, thank you. still ahead, campaign stops in courtrooms. those were the two things filling up former president trump's schedule, come 2024. plus, new insight into what led to vice president kamala harris
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new details about vice president kamala harris is surprise trip to florida to take on the state's controversial new guidelines for teaching black history. nbc's allie raffa joins me now with more, so ali, this was a personal trip for the president, vice president? >> yeah, lindsey, this was particularly personal for the vice president, as we know, as she is the first black vice president in our country's history. her own mother was a civil rights activist, remember on the 2020 campaign trail she liked to talk about her earliest memories going to protests alongside her mother, but we also are learning from new details about her travel plans just how deeply personal this was for her, because she was the one who personally requested this trip he brought to fruition during a trip on thursday to indianapolis. she requested to go to jacksonville, florida, the next,
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day to deliver the speech. and during this speech she didn't use a teleprompter, she didn't mention governor ron desantis's name specifically, but she blasted these new curriculum changes that were passed under his leadership by the fuller the department of education. just two days before this trip to jacksonville, florida, of course, we know those changes include guidelines for middle schoolers to be taught, that someone's lived people benefited from their time being enslaved, because of skills that they were forced to learn, in addition to several other changes to those curriculum standards. i want you to take a listen to a bit more of kamala harris's speech yesterday. >> this is unnecessary, to debate whether enslaved people benefited from slavery, are you kidding me? are we supposed to debate that? let us not be distracted by
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what they are trying to do, which is to create unnecessary debates, to divide our country. let's not fall in that drop. >> and lindsey, this is just the latest changes we are seeing this overhaul of florida's educational system, not just florida, we are seeing these changes happening all over the country, these cultural flash points that we are seeing republicans embrace more and more. and the biden administration and campaign's positioning themselves as the people who, if elected to another term in 2024, are going to be the ones to protect these rights for americans that they say are actively under attack under threat by republicans, so we are seeing sort of this evolution and how the administration is using vice president harris, because of her unique position to be able to get out and talk to people as the first female vice president, the first black vice president, she is uniquely
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positioned to do this. so we have seen her sort of evolved into the administration's sort of de facto rapid responder being deployed to these areas of the country. and the immediate aftermath of legislative decisions passed by republicans on these cultural flash point issues. so i expect to see more of the same from vice president harris as we get closer to 2024, lindsey. >> okay, allie raffa, thank you. coming, up alabama republicans defy a supreme court order, by drawing up a new congressional map with just one majority black district. and all but daring the courts to stop them again, and has barbenheimer already created a box office boom? we are going to look at the early numbers of each blockbuster film. >> hi, barbie! >> i, can! >> hi, barbie! >> hi, barbie! >> i, barbie! >> i, can! like ours is spoiling their dogs.
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department requested that donald trump's classified documents charles began this december. while the former president's legal team wanted it to be delayed until after the 2024 election, judge cannon has ruled that it will begin on may 20th, 2024. which is between super tuesday in march and the republican national convention in july, there is also a chance that the procedural developments could push the date back even further, moving it closer to the november election. joining me now is former
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assistant district attorney and msnbc legal analyst catherine christian, so catherine, what will these potential conflicts mean for the various legal teams? if anything? >> well the conflicts that i actually do not think that the may 20th date we pushed further, it seems that the schedule that judge cannon put together is very tight. so mr. trump faces a trial in new york in october, a civil trial, he doesn't have to be that one. there is another civil, travel civil trial in october is a civil fraud case at the state agency is bringing against him. the civil trial in january is the defamation case that jean carroll is bringing, he doesn't have to be at that one, he wasn't that the one that he lost in a row. he does have to be at the criminal trial, so there is one in, may i mean, there is one in march, the manhattan d.a.'s case. and then there is the may 20th one. what you really look for the attorneys, are the same attorneys gonna be able to be on the case? so todd blanche, who is one of his attorneys on the mar-a-lago
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case -- classified documents case. also his attorney on the manhattan d.a.'s case. so we could legitimately say, look, judge, i'm gonna be in trial the end of march, it's gonna be a minimum of two weeks of jury selection. that is gonna push it all the way to may. i am not capable of being able to prepare for that may 20th trial. so what i think will happen, which happens on defendants who are not high-profile, is that one of those cases, the manhattan d.a.'s case, will stand down. meaning the more serious case, he may 20th case, it will take priority. that happens often, when i was a prosecutor i was on the side of i had the most serious case. so a defendant to loosen another jurisdiction or another, office my case went first and i've been on the other side of that, i had a least serious case, so the other cases weren't, so that is really the conflict. the conflict is that there is no judge that's gonna let him out of a trial so you can go campaign or he can go make a
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speech, it's really gonna be about the attorney's availability. >> fascinating, all, right so when it comes to the january 6th election interference probe, jack smith's target letter to trump mentions three federal statutes, the deprivation of rights, conspiracy to defraud the u.s., and tampering with a witness. of course, the context surrounding the statues isn't clear. and including them in the letter, i mean, that doesn't necessarily mean trump will be charged with those, right? and does it also mean that a potential indictment will only be limited to those? >> yes and no. so, you are correct, just because it is in the letter, that doesn't mean he is gonna be charged with it. what you are doing as a courtesy as a prosecutor, you are alluding them, because if your client doesn't tend to come and speak to us, if your client doesn't tend to testify at a grand jury, you should know that this is what we are looking at charging him with. so they could charge him with lesser charging with more. the odds are that those charges are probably correct. now the duration of variants, there is also been reporting
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that really the charges are conspiracy against rates. which is sort of very similar, because those involve election interference. so basically for conspiracy against rates, you conspire to injure, threaten, and intimidate a person in their free exercise of right. so we are talking about that there, and this is a statute that was, you know, to protect black people, black -- -- this is basically he's not shell of the case. the election interference, undermining democracy. if you are interviewing an election and he allegedly did that in seven states with a false electors, you are disenfranchising millions of voters. you are also harming election workers. and we know with the mother daughter in georgia, how what happened to them. so whether it is separation of, rights conspiracy against rights, that will be the act to the heart of, you know, that election interference. that charging if it happens.
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>> when it comes to the georgia probe, trump's attorneys have made another last-ditch effort to block that investigation. but we know georgia d a fani willis is asked, judges not just to schedule charles in the first half of august. what is the significance of that? >> that, was she gave everyone a heads up in the spring that i am peddling a grand jury at the end of july. the first week of august. if everything goes well, mr. trump, et cetera, will be indicted. and she gave a heads up to the fbi that to work with local law enforcement, to make sure that everyone is on point for security. she requested that chief judge told the judges not to have any charles going on at that time. she even said that her own staff, 70% of them will not be in the courthouse, they will be working remotely, only herself, her executives, and the people working in investigation. so what that is saying, despite, you know, the hail mary classes that mr. trump's lawyers keep doing. that she anticipates that there
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will be an indictment. of course, the grand jury has to do that, but she has lined up all of her ducks in a row to get that indictment, and she expects that that is gonna happen during the month of august. >> catherine christian, thank you. tomorrow, i will be in for my colleague alex win, i will talk to one of the january 6th committee witnesses, who has a big revelation about jack smith's grand jury, my interview with sarah matthews, former trump white house deputy press secretary, tomorrow, sunday, one pm eastern. alabama republicans have defied a u.s. supreme court order, in passing a new congressional map that includes only one majority black district the supreme court had reaffirmed a federal court order to include two districts, which would favor black voters, joining me now right now is someone to sanders-townsend. most of simon which follows right here on msnbc. . so simon, this governor signed this new map into law, saying the legislature knows our state and people in our districts better than the federal courts. house speaker kevin mccarthy
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confirmed to nbc news that you talk to alabama legislators about the issue. what do you suspect is at play here? and do you expect this to be the final map? there is a hearing in august. >> i think there is a couple of things that play here, lindsay, first and foremost, governor kay ivey's comments i think are very, people should pay close attention to them. because regardless of if the state legislators no the state, better right, like, you just don't ignore a supreme court ruling. i think there are a number of frankly democratic lawmakers across the country that would have liked to ignore the ruling on roe v. wade. even some people talked about doing that, urging the white house to take steps. and the president and vice president refused. so what is that play here is this, kevin mccarthy is weighing in, because what has happened in this case affects not just alabama, but the, entire country, and direct implications for congress in 2024. after the ruling in allen view milligan, could political
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report change for races from lean are to toss-up. because there are currently 30 section two challenges spinning across the country. in more than ten states that would do exactly what is supposed to be being done in alabama, which is to create another congressional district that would be majority african american voters. and essentially favor democrats. >> simone, nbc news reports that democrats are scrambling to reach voters in florida after election officials in the state canceled all standing mail ballot requests this year. the cancellations were done in order to comply with a 2021 election law, adding new restrictions to mail-in voting. but what does this mean for democrats and organizations who are trying to reach voters and are essentially starting from zero? >> look, i think this is very detrimental to voters who are looking to turn people out, right? and engage them on the issues ahead of primaries, and also the general election.
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so the head of the democratic party in florida, nikki freed, she has said that she told a number of outlets doing interviews or the last couple of days that instead of using resources to organize folks and get the campaigns, they're using resources to just put people on the voter rolls in the numbers are important, last year, right? at the end of the year there were about 438,000 folks on the voter roll who had early mail-in ballots. at the end of july, the beginning of this july it was about 92,000. right? so there is some, there is a gap there, there's a lot of work to be done and we will see if the democratic party in georgia can make it up? >> staying in florida, simon, i want to ask you about the controversy over guidelines in the state, they suggest that teaching that slaves received some. benefits from slavery is their new social studies history curriculum,. and vice president kamala harris flew to the state to react. here is part of that. re is part of that
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i don't know what slavery really involved. it involved rape, it involved torture, it involved taking a baby from their mother! so in the context of that, how is it that anyone could suggest that in the midst of these atrocities, that there was any benefit to being subjected to this level of dehumanization? [applause] in the midst of these atrocities, that there was some benefit? >> you know, the vice president well, does it surprise you that this was personal for her? she requested to make this trip. she didn't have a teleprompter. and also, what is this going to do two kids in that state? >> you know, lindsey, it is not
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surprising to me. look, kamala harris is the first woman, the first black woman and vice president of the united states of america. how powerful it is that the first woman, the first black woman vice president of the united states of america took her, there is nothing more precious for a principle, particularly at the white house, than their time. took her time to go down to florida, because what is happening is egregious. the idea that the institution of slavery, the economic frankly institution of slavery in this country, somehow it was a benefit to those that were enslaved, it's dangerous and frankly wrong. it is not true. and she goes on in that speech to really make the case that the concern here is about our children. and around the world folks who looked to folks in america, and our children are the ones who, if things in florida continue to happen, and they are emulate across the country? it will be our children who grew up not knowing their
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history and the rest of the world does. >> simon sanders-townsend, thank you so much. make sure to watch simon's interview with florida congresswoman sheila cherfilus-mccormick, who was with the vice president yesterday at her event. don't miss that. today at four pm. right after this show. of course you can catch simon every weekend at four pm following our show, and on peacock with new episodes streaming every monday. well, after the break, women suing texas over its abortion ban, getting powerful testimony about the serious pregnancy complications that they endured after being denied abortions. what a victory in the case could mean for reproductive rights, next. smart bankers. convenient tools. boom. one bank with the power of both. chase. make more of what's yours. just between us, you know what's better than mopping? anything! ugh. well, i switched to swiffer wetjet, and it's awesome.
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suing a state for being denied an abortion got underway in texas this week is the first of its kind since roe was overturned. the women gave dramatic and heart-wrenching testimony about how they were forced to carry non pregnancies to term. one woman who discussed her baby's fatal birth defect was so overcome with emotion that she became physically ill and vomited on the stand. here is more of my reporting. i want to warn, in parts of the story are very graphic and disturbing. we >> entered austin courtroom, searing that emotional testimony, in a case with major implications for abortion access in texas. >> they were detected whether her heart was beating or not, and if it stopped, then they
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would be able [crying] and they would be able to intervene. >> for, women part of a lawsuit against the states restrictive abortion law, taking the stand, describing their harrowing experiences carrying nonviable pregnancies. ashley brandt says she was forced to travel to colorado to abort one of her twins who had developed a cranial, a fatal birth defect. >> i would be about to give birth to an identical version of my daughter. without a gold, and without a brain. >> the lawsuit is the first in the nation brought against the state by women have been denied abortion access since the supreme court overturned roe v. wade last summer. that ruling triggering a new law in the lone star state that a lot abortion past six weeks in all cases, unless the life of the pregnant person is in danger. but the plaintiffs argued that the law is unclear about how that danger is defined, and not
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to block the ban from applying to high-risk pregnancy. the losses they are currently written, the medical exceptions, they are confusing. in patients where there is a great, so there is a lack of clarity, they are going, to there on the side of not treatment. >> santa casiano told the court that her child had developed anencephaly and was missing part of her skull and brain. the trauma of the experience causing casiano to vomit on the stand. >> i vomit when certain parts that haven't that kind of just makes my body remember. . and it's just reacts. >> doctors who perform unlawful abortions in texas could have their medical licenses revoked, we find $100,000 or more, or face up to life in prison. >> [inaudible] let me in my face, said, because of the, law a little cannot help you. where i would have to -- my hands are completely tied. i can do nothing.
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>> the state argues that the plaintiffs are on an ideological crusade,, and that had happened to these women was tragic, it is in the past, and any future harm's hypothetical. >> the blame directed at the finances misplaced. rather, the plaintiffs their alleged injuries are the direct result of their own medical providers failing them. >> the states only witness saying that the problem is with the doctor's lack of understanding of the law. >> i have seen doctors say that they cannot intervene until there is an immediate risk. this is further demonstration that they have not read the law carefully. >> now the court is left to decide whether one of the most restrictive abortion laws in the country can stand as written. >> there was no statement of pro life in the state, when you sent me home to wait for my baby to die inside of me. it is not pro-life. it is almost protector in the sense. >> joining me right now is the president of naral pro-choice america. --
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many, these women had to relive their trauma on the stand this week. amanda zurawski, one of the 13 women suing the state said i survived sepsis and i don't think today was much less traumatic than that. how powerful using their testimony was for the court? >> amanda zurawski and all of these women, quite frankly, our hero. they are doing the unimaginable? right? they are standing up for so many women. women in this country. sharing their most intimate horror stories, right? i mean, i think the testimony is compelling. it was, frankly, really hard to watch just now. lindsey, i just do this work for a live, and i read these stories all the time, i was actually driving to work and heard some of this testimony on the radio on npr. and started to cry in my car. i literally any real reproductive rights advocates working families i with our friends of the center for -- we are also doing incredible
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work by bringing this case forward. >> so, look, i think it's stories like this, and testimonies like this that are actually changing public opinion, you know? we have seen poll after poll showing the shifting narrative, a shifting tide of public opinion towards abortion access, including with a majority of independents and republicans. so, look, there is a real legal challenge, or the ability for patients and doctors to be free from these bands, there is also a really important narrative to push that is gonna help us change the laws in the future. and help us elect reproductive rate champions who will make these. vance >> texas is asking the district judge to dismiss the case, arguing that these women have misplaced blame. and it is their doctors who failed to act. the plaintiffs challenge doesn't seek to repeal the abortion ban, but to clarify when exceptions are allowed under the law. what could a victory mean for abortion rights advocates when it comes to the texas law? and any other potential implications?
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>> you, know the jury in this case would be a step in the right direction. but i have to underscore, and i know our friends litigating the case would agree that abortion bans are probably like no matter what exceptions are put in place and the stories are proving peoples why you know? and the strategy here is to make sure that this is left up to doctors and patients, and the government, and elected officials, that they are not in the middle of this lifesaving decisions. but the bigger message here, and the bigger lesson that we need to understand is that bans are bands, and exceptions don't work. because of the climate of fear and confusion, the climate of fear of persecution and prosecution by women and their families and their providers, creating a perfect storm for these horrors tories to happen. and it is quite shocking that the states witness tried to put the blame on the doctors, when so many doctors themselves have testified and spoken up, publicly in threat to their livelihoods. but these bands are making it impossible for them to do their
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near the miami area. the weather isn't the only thing making headlines in south florida. last night was the huge unanticipated debut for international soccer's superstar lionel messi, who played his first team as a member of the mls club inter miami i want to go in head and bring -- in in fort lauderdale. marissa, what is it like down there? >> hey, lindsey, obviously it has been a hot weekend in florida. it was a hot night here. but that doesn't stop people from coming up and coming out in droves. we will get to the stadium and the fans in just, among the first, i have to take you to that incredible goal by lionel messi, his signature. i mean, this really came in the final seconds, everyone was on their feet. this was the moment they had waited for. i mean, what a debut for messi on the team here? and we are talking people who had traveled all around the world. we have found people that are traveled from mexico, from saudi arabia, even people who were rooting for the other team were excited to see messi.
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and they paid top dollar to see him to, take a listen for yourself. >> messi is my favorite player of ever. when i was a kid, it was like my inspiration to play soccer. so i am here to see my team and watch my team to. >> i obviously love messy. , he is one of my favorite players. and it's just amazing having him here in miami. >> i'm feeling very happy to see into miami and messy. i have been following inter miami for like a year, and maybe on the bottom of the league, i am happy the new players are joining so that we can probably win the mls. >> now even hours before the game was even started, the fend zone behind me was packed with people. there were some kids who were practicing and playing soccer with each other. there was a huge, massive line for the jerseys. we have been talking about how the number 10 messi jerseys have been the hottest commodity in the miami area. obviously we are in fort
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lauderdale. but if you go a little south to miami, you couldn't even go a couple of blocks without seeing messi's likeness. so messy mania in full swing. in one way or another. and man, were people traveling from all over, you heard it yourself, whether they were lifelong soccer fans or new to the game, a lot of people that i spoke to yesterday said that this was their very first soccer game. at least professionally. and as you, where they felt like every second, spent whether it was traveling, or every dime spent on the tickets, or the travel to get here. they said it was worth it. lindsey? >> marissa, thank you. >> it is a barbenheimer battle at the box office. greg orwigsburg be ranked in $70 million on opening day, including early, previews on thursday. warner brothers says it is the biggest opening day of the year so far. meanwhile, oppenheimer took in about 33 million on its opening day. the christopher nolan film is heading for one of the biggest opening weekends for an r rated movie ever. theater chain amc confirms more
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than 20,000 people have bought tickets to both films on the same day. that wraps it up for this hour, i'm lindsey reiser, i will be back tomorrow filling in for my colleague yasmin -- beginning at one pm eastern. symone starts right now. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> greetings, everyone. you are watching symone. the current leading candidate for the republican presidential nomination, okay, donald trump. he is facing a triple legal whammy in the form of a potential third criminal indictment. but if that is in better, novel so learned that the former president will go on trial for the separate classified documents case during the 2024 republican primaries. we are on talking all of the legal drama, and what it signals about the chances the former president could actually face justice. a parade of bizarre hearings this week in congress -- out of touch political agenda of the republican majority. one lawmaker says it's animal house, on people's house right no

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