tickets to both films on the same day. that wraps it up for this hour, i'm lindsey reiser, i will be back tomorrow filling in for my colleague yasmin -- beginning at one pm eastern. symone starts right now. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> greetings, everyone. you are watching symone. the current leading candidate for the republican presidential nomination, okay, donald trump. he is facing a triple legal whammy in the form of a potential third criminal indictment. but if that is in better, novel so learned that the former president will go on trial for the separate classified documents case during the 2024 republican primaries. we are on talking all of the legal drama, and what it signals about the chances the former president could actually face justice. a parade of bizarre hearings this week in congress -- out of touch political agenda of the republican majority. one lawmaker says it's animal house, on people's house right now.

vice president kamala harris of asserts the theory behind new education standards in florida. specifically about teaching that some enslaved people actually benefited from their bondage. she says that replacing black history with lies. we will unpack the settling unsettling response from desantis. i am symone sanders-townsend, i know you missed me! and i have something to say. ♪ ♪ ♪ history moves fast, just 109 days, ago a u.s. president current or former had never been indicted. now, we may see it happen for a third time to the same person. former president donald trump. and that has unprecedented implications for the 2024 presidential election. on sunday, the former president received a matter from national

jacks mitt. informing trump that he is the target of the federal investigation into efforts to overturn the 2020 election. nbc news reports that the letter mentioned three statutes related to the defamation of rights. conspiracy to defraud the united states, and tampering with a witness. this doesn't mean a potential indictment would include or be limited to those three statutes. remember, right now we only know what we can confirm. but this certainly isn't a letter you want to receive former special counsel for the recurrent of justice. he especially if you are still facing trial for another indictment from the same special counsel. yes, folks, i'm talking with the classified documents case. it's all donald trump charged with 37 offenses -- important new development on friday, judge aileen cannon set a trial date for may 20 of next year. that is later than the mid december date prosecutorial comport, but also finals far short of the --

something else to know about that may 20 start date, the country will likely know or be knowing -- the name of the republican's nominee for president. and in addition to the classified documents and i, turned her target letter on the 2020 election interference, trump is also facing charges for hush money payments in manhattan, and a decision on charges in the election interference case in georgia could come next month. that matt, remembers got a graphic on the screen, y'all. -- it would be a moment for his rivals, maybe, trying to mc him as a front runner. to criticize him? instead, without saying specific charges or the evidence or just looking at any of the facts that we know to be true it now. some of trump's competitors for the republican nomination are actually rushing to this defense, again. >> i am not convinced that the president acting on that advice of current glorious that came into the white house --

it's criminal. >> i still believe that the doj is in fact weaponizing the tools of our country against their political implements. >> i think it was shown how he was on the white house and didn't do anything while things were going. i should have come out more forcefully. >> my favorite one of those is that the lawyers do it. >> so, those are the folks who are vying for the 2024 republican nomination. a congressional republicans, they are also racing to defend trump. house speaker kevin mccarthy said that trump should not be held responsible for the events of january 6th. it's a far cry from what he said just days after the capitol attack. take a listen. >> i don't see how he could be found criminally responsible, what criminally activity did he do? he told people to be peaceful. >> the president bears responsibility for wednesday's attack on congress by rioters. he should have immediately denounced the mob when he saw what was unfolding.

except his share of responsibility, quell the brewing unrest. >> what is more, there is a growing push among house republicans to rewrite history in order to sanitize donald trump's legacy. they actually want to take the unprecedented step to expunge both of donald trump's impeachments. another desperate effort to ruin every any attempt at accountability for mansour's rhetoric endangered many of their very lives. joining me now to discuss, all of this and more, democratic congresswoman sheila -- mccormack of florida. welcome to you, congresswoman, good to see you. around half a dozen swing state republicans, including the congressman that represents the good old district in nebraska are opposing the effort to expunge impeachments, many of them are noting how ridiculous it is, because trump was acquitted by the senate in both cases. so there is actually nothing to expunge. what is your reaction? >> well i think that it is clear that the republican party is still very much downed by a

maga extremists. to see some of the republican conference cowering down to the president, the former president, and trying to expunge, and it's ridiculous. everyone has to be held accountable in the court of law. and i really think that this indictment, which is coming, on these three charges for these three statues, it really is going to be the final blow to his candidacy. >> you know, if donald trump is in fact indicted by jack smith in relation to the 2020 election, how are house democrats planning to offset republican efforts to undermine the special counsel's work? there is a track record here, you know, republicans in congress, they have all particularly in the house already demonstrated that their willingness to do just that? >> well, i think it's gonna be a reckoning where they have to deal with the facts that came out, we already saw several facts that came out after the january 6th committee led by benny thompson, which is an excellent community that really shows us the facts. and as we get closer to the election, we are gonna have to grapple with the truth, versus what they are trying to make. up which is very similar to what we see going on in florida

right now. but as we get closer towards the primary, i think most republicans will look inside of themselves, or i hope they do, and actually admits that we have to start preserving our democracy, and not ladies kind of atrocities of slide. especially when we talk about interfering with elections, especially when we are talking about trying to ensure that the presidential election was not ratified. i think that that is the last-ditch, and i think republicans when it comes close to what they will actually start stepping back. >> you know, congresswoman, for a lot of people, january 6th seems like it was so long ago. but it is not. the insurrection -- the attack on our capitol was, it is very very recent history. and, there are some house republicans who are currently serving that were actively supporting the former presidents efforts to overturn the election. to your knowledge, have your republican colleagues expressed maybe some private concerns about what specifics could be laid out in the potential indictment? and frankly, whether their names might come up? >> well there are many people

that are concerned about, especially -- due to the republican party, and the reputation of the republican party, to be quite frank with, you a lot of it -- or vying for the presidential position, they are concerned also. and i think people have real concerns about this because the facts are the facts. and more information is coming out about the relation to it. and although it may seem like it was so far away, right now when we are looking at the interference of justice, the difference of elections, these are very hard things to get away from, this is very hard for you to convince people who believe in democracy and love our great country because of their free and fair elections, to say, hey, this didn't, happen he should be able to slide by. i think for some politicians are now in here to say i don't want to be the person to condemn him. if they are trying to roll themselves back because he is the front-runner. but when push comes to shove and we get to that deadline where we have, there has to be a nominee, i think they are gonna start feeling themselves back. and you are gonna see more of people who are running trying to absorb his base.

so i think right now they are just playing, nice but many people are concerned about the terms will take. >> let's discuss the latest development on education in your state of florida. the board of education recently approved a social studies curriculum that will teach, quote, how slaves developed skills which in some instances could be applied for their personal benefit. now, you joined the vice president in jacksonville, yesterday, to speak out against any curriculum that sanitizes the brutality of the slave trade and even some self as being beneficial. here is some of what vice president harris had to say. >> how is it that anyone could suggest that in the midst of these atrocities, that there was any benefit to being subjected to this level of dehumanization! [applause] in the midst of these

atrocities! that there was some benefit? [applause] >> now here is governor ron desantis on his recent reaction, or his comments. explaining the curriculum. >> well you should talk to them about, it i, mean i didn't, do it i wasn't involved in it. but i think what they are doing, i think that they are probably going to show some of the folks that eventually parlayed, you know, being a blacksmith into doing things later in life. >> congresswoman, it's easy to just boil this down to political tit-for-tat if you will. but you joined other members of florida's congressional delegation in sending a letter to education officials, urging them to reverse that decision. because this is serious. this is about education of children in florida. and frankly across the country. do you expect a productive response from the board? >> well, i don't expect a

protective response. but we are gonna do everything we can to fight this. there is no way we are sitting back and allowing this to happen. this is completely crazy, in no other space in this world do we ever hear anybody talking about crimes against humanity. and trying to rationalize and find the good side. of it if you look at the history of slavery, they had systematic practices of rape, torture, murder, even using children as -- in the state of florida. the state of florida has committed the most atrocities when it comes to slavery to african americans. the state of florida saying, hey, let's not talk about these things and look at the bright side. that there was some benefit, totally ignoring that the africans that they kidnap from africa, which they traffic to the united states, had skills and societies and african before they came here. no other place where we see. that -- person who suffered domestic violence will not least the year learned how to suffer through trial and adversity. it's ridiculous. >> it's egregious. >> we need to a step against it. >> it is a great, just florida

congresswoman sheila cherfilus-mccormick, thank you very much for your time today. >> thank you so much for having me. >> all signs are pointing to another federal indictment against former president trump, but are we so sure? and if so, one could drop? and how could it impact other investigations? what is really going on, well my legal panel brings it all down, next. but first, our colleague jessica layton is. here and she has a look at the day's other top stories. jessica, what is going on out? there >> thanks, simon. busy weekend today. we are starting with even more extreme heat around the. well temperatures increases expected to resume hundred 13 degrees as wildfires burn out of control for a sixth day. the heat they're so intense, the greek government has announced closures of major major sites, including the acropolis, during the afternoons, to avoid the worst of that heat. more action in the russian war on ukraine, ukrainian fighters attempted a drone attack in russian controlled crimea today. that is according to a russian installed governor. it comes a day after russia launched attacks against the coastal city of odessa for a

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but what exactly does that mean? that means including at the letter is foreshadowing a third indictment. that's not guaranteed. -- mentions three federal statutes related to the deprivation of rights, conspiracy to defraud the united states, and tampering with a witness. that doesn't mean a potential indictment will include or be limited to those three statutes. and now, we learned that trump has hired a new lawyer, john lauro, who says that he'll take the unprecedented step of asking for cameras in the federal courthouse. to join me now to help sort through all of these new details, former federal prosecutor glenn kirschner, and atlanta journal correspondent

téa mitchell. all right, glenn, can you just explain exactly what a target letter is, why do federal prosecutors and what it means for possible third trump indictments. all very succinctly, so my grandmother can understand. >> sure simone. so, prosecutors sometimes will send the target of a grand jury investigation, a target letter. but often we won't. when we have a large scale investigations that are overt, in other words, everybody knows that jack smith has been investigating donald trump, right? so there's no secret here. so what they will do is they'll send a letter to the target of the investigation, a target is a person they are intending to indict, and they will invite them to come before the grand jury, and if they want to give their side of the story, if they want to explain to the grand jury under oath why the prosecutors have it all wrong,

they really didn't commit any crimes, they didn't do anything wrong, the target has that opportunity. people may ask, well why not subpoena the target? because, a subpoena is a compulsion order and a target is a fifth amendment right not to incriminate himself. so they simply invite him and they put him on notice that the next step is that we are likely to indict. >> very sink, glenn. i knew you'd have the information. all right, so that is the other jacks mitt investigation, but then there's the trump's classified documents case. téa now has a trial date, it's set for may of 2024, and that is toward the end of the primary season. it's about five months before the general election, if you will. before folks start going to the polls and finally casting their ballots in november. so far donald trump's indictments, they haven't shaken the support of his base, but do you think that this trial will be a liability for

the former president? what are your sources telling you? >> well, i think that the trial, number one, we'll just kind of be logistically difficult for the former president, because he's going to have to cross campaign to be in court on certain dates. so he's going to have to manage the actual schedule of the trial in concert with his campaign schedule. but as far as its effect on the campaign, if it tries with everything that we've seen thus far, this trial may only just increase his support, further solidify him as not just the front running candidate, but quite frankly, could help earn him the nomination to be the republican nominee in 2024. >> i think it's important for folks at no to know that there will already be something that's called a presumptive nominee. we're going to likely know what the delegate numbers are giving, i eat who the republican

nominee will be. it just might not be finalized. in this documents case, donald trump's new lawyer, he recently added a new lawyer to the team, he is now requesting cameras and at the federal courtroom. he is saying that all americans, they need to see what's happening, all americans need to be able to see what's happening. you are a federal prosecutor. have cameras ever been allowed in the federal courtroom proceeding, and you know, i want to know what's happening in there. i think if not cameras, then at least some live audio. is there any chance that the department of justice will side with trump's lawyers in some version of this? >> what a great question. i don't know what position doj jack smith's team will take, but cameras are not ordinarily allowed. i was a fed for 30 years, i don't recall cameras ever being allowed in a federal courtroom. but perhaps we should uphold the courts kicking and

screaming into the modern day. these are public proceedings. most courts will at least have a closer broadcast to adjacent courtrooms, what we call the overflow courtrooms. so at least more people can actually watch it, not necessarily live, but in realtime if they are in the courthouse. because courtrooms only hold somewhere between 25 and up to 100 people. these are public proceedings, there is no more consequential prosecution for or nation or our democracy then of a former president who is alleged to have committed all sorts of crimes against the united states. against we the people. i for one hope that jack smith's team joins the motion and says, you know what, it's time for the people to see the evidence that we have amassed against donald trump. >> this is -- i would just note that this is not unprecedented. there were requests for the

supreme court of the united states of america to update the way in which folks engage with the court and you can listen live via live audio broadcasts. so this is not necessarily something out of left field. >> well, it's out of left field as far as the federal courts. a lot of state courts, local courts, this is very common to have cameras in the classroom, media coverage that includes film, anyone who's ever watched a true crime docuseries has seen footage from courtrooms, just not federal courtrooms. the question is, will the trump trial be one of the reasons why the federal court agrees to, as a glenside, modernize its operations. >> it remains to be seen. great question. last before i let you go, tia, 30 seconds. what is going on in georgia? do you have any intel? i'm gonna hear from district

attorney fani willis anytime soon? >> we think we're going to hear from her in mid august, but in the meantime, former president trump has filed yet another motion to try to disqualify dea willis from this case, to throw out everything the special grand jury has done thus far. we don't think that there's much of a case there, the supreme court has already rejected a similar request, but he's trying again. >> all right. we will be watching. téa tia, thank you both very much. this last week on capitol hill ranged from weird to downright disgusting. from potentially voting to expunge former president trump's impeachments, to congresswoman marjorie taylor greene showing images just to lewd to describe during a house hearing. is this what the voters who gave republicans control of congress want? my political panel joins me next with some answers. stick around. ick around

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one on capitol hill, with multiple republican members of congress making some strange and even bizarre headlines. first, in an unconscionable breach of privacy, and move that frankly like to decency, georgia congresswoman marjorie taylor greene displayed very elude photos of hunter biden during an oversight committee hearing for two irs agents testifying. then a report broke that speaker kevin mccarthy plan to hold a house vote to expunge

former president trump's impeachment. and he later told nbc that while he supports expungement, there is no plan to hold a vote. speaking of the former president, congresswoman elise stefani admitted this week that she talked to donald trump about once a week, which begs the question, do you work for the people you elected, or who elected you, frankly? or do you work for donald trump? my political panel joins me now. please welcome former democratic congresswoman val demings of florida, and former republican congressman charlie dent of pennsylvania. i love my panel with former members, because you can all really break it down. congresswoman, i want to play for you how democratic congresswoman -- described the happenings in the house to my colleague jonathan capehart earlier today. take a listen. >> i mean, it's like, it's bananas. it's animal house instead of being the people's house right now. >> why exactly is going on with republicans specifically in the

house? there are so many things that are being put on the table, and a very important committee hearing that i wonder is this what they believe voters really care about? >> listen, it's great to be with you and i served on the oversight and accountability committee on my first term at congress. it's a committee that can really do some very serious, very critical work. but i guess not this particular session. look, i think jasmine defined it correctly. maybe it's animal house, because clearly they are not working on behalf of the people, they're working on behalf of one person. and so i think it would've been maybe a decent idea to have a hearing on tax reform. i think the american people certainly have supported that, but they are only interested in pleasing and appeasing one person, and that is the former president. so i don't think the american people are going to get anything out of this house,

this particular session, and that's a shame. congressman, i'm interested in your thoughts. do you agree with congresswoman demings, because elise stefanek, who's number three in the republican house conference made a point to go to the podium and say that she speaks to donald trump regularly, and not talking about the issues that maybe that constituents sent her there to expand upon. and then we were just discussing off camera about what happened in the appropriations committee this week. just what is going on? >> look, there are just too many folks in the house gop conference right now who are just channeling trump's politics. and i think many of those who do that tend to be on the fringe or very safe districts. what they fail to recognize is that they are hurting their own colleagues, who are in these more moderate districts. so when they talk about things like expungement of an impeachment, i don't think something like that could pass. but at the same time, there are moderate members who are not

going to want to vote on that, and i'm not sure if it even passed into law. so i think this is really harmful to their majority, by channeling trump's anger and grievance, and looking back at the 2020 election, the never-ending comments about a stolen or rigged election, all that nonsense. that is hurting their majority and their ability to maintain majorities. i can understand why leaders in the party were moving in that direction. it's not in their interest. >> it is not in their interest at all. let's switch and talk a little bit about 2024, 2024 now, the house is on the line. the senate frankly to, and so is the presidency. here's what some of donald trump's republican opponents in the primary are saying about his candidacy for president this week. >> we need a new generational leader. we can't keep dealing with this trauma. we can't keep dealing with the negativity. we can't keep dealing with all of this. >> i hope he doesn't get charged, i don't think it will

be good for the country. but at the same time, i've got to focus on looking forward. >> history will hold him to account for his actions that day. but with regard to the prospect of indictment, i hope it doesn't come to that. >> i intend to win, but i want to win by convincing voters of why they should vote for me. not by having the federal police state eliminated my competition. >> i still believe that the doj is in fact weaponizing the tools of our country against their political opponents. >> congresswoman, i think everyone has to be strategic on the campaign trail. what is your response to their strategy? >> well, i don't know what world or planets they are living in. the former president of the united states is facing his third indictment, and yes i do believe that the third indictment is eminent. and simone, as you all know, if you want to be president of the united states, then you have to show that you are a leader.

you have to speak truth into power, because the american people deserve that. and each one of the candidates that you just showed look weak, look out of touch, look like they are not concerned about america moving forward, which i think is what the presidency is all about. they too are still pandering to one man. and that's a shame. >> you know, this week, there are -- obviously there is an active republican presidential primary, but there's lots of talk about third-party. and -- of alaska said that she would vote for democratic senator joe manchin of west virginia if he ran for president as an independent. she calls the choice between president biden and donald trump the quote, lesser of two evils. congressman, i think that often talking, we all -- and being presidents. but in this case, this is --

the language here batters. and this is not a scenario where donald trump and joe biden are on the same footing when we're talking about the kind of people that they are. i think this is language that the lesser of two evils's language that has regularly shown up in presidential elections, and frankly maybe people were using the term back in the day when it really didn't apply. but there is not a lesser -- there is a lesser of two evils here, i would argue donald trump's not in the running. what are your thoughts about this language and the third party bids? >> yeah. i'm very familiar with the labels, what they're doing. there is simply trying to provide access for potential independent candidacy. a fusion ticket, a democrat democrat republican. that's what thereafter. they want to have some additional choices and competition, that's what this is about. and i actually think this is healthy for our democracy. >> really? >> yeah. i think that when you see both candidates, both donald trump and joe biden have large segments of the american population who don't want them to run. they're looking for something

different. i never voted for donald trump, and i voted for joe biden. but i personally -- murkowski, i would like to see another alternative out there that's perhaps a bit more centered politically. and i know a lot of people are out there saying how is this going to affect the election? nobody really knows how this would affect the election. >> do you think it would affect the election? >> i -- i don't know how it would. until there are candidates names, and we get further down and they know how it's going to play out, i don't think we're going to know. so i think all the speculation now about who's going to be harmed and how -- is premature. >> we'll have to leave it. there congressman val demings, and former congressman charlie dent, thank you both. >> up next, where those 16 michigan republicans now facing felony charges as fake electors acting all on their own? i certainly don't think so, and i think you'll feel the same after i make my case. right after this. r this an have nice things.

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also had fake electors. those states include pennsylvania, georgia, arizona, wisconsin, nevada, and new mexico. that is seven states that had fake electors. so, this just didn't occur by happenstance. these phony electors were just step one of trump and his allies overall plot to destroy american democracy as we know it. what was the second step? the pressure campaign on then president mike pence. according to the new york times, pro trump lawyers, state republican officials, and then white house aides quote strong upped pence into considering a pro trump slate during the session of congress on january 6th. the goal was to persuade pence to say that election was somehow flawed or in doubt. sure. i know folks like to play some responsibility of this entire plot on people like rudy giuliani and john eastman, but i am not buying it. because this is just so much bigger than them. the scheme was not an act of two loan wolves or even one

wolf. the fake electors, the pressure campaign, what we saw on january 6th were more than 2000 pro trump rioters stormed our nation's capital. it is in fact all connected. no one can convince me that, you know, donald trump did not have an entire outlandish operation. we have to stay aware. what are the details, how far down the rabbit hole does this go? we don't know yet. we can't miss the bigger picture. we have to make sure that we continue to ask the most important question. who else was in on this? i urge you, stay on. this law coming up folks, alabama seems to think supreme court rulings only apply if you want them to. now republicans in the state are now openly defying an order to redraw their congressional map to include another majority black district. up next, the question is can they get away with it? we'll look at that answer and the potential impact on house

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the only one. last month the supreme court handed down a surprised victory upholding section two of the voting rights act. section who prohibits any voter law or practice urging any citizens right to vote on a base of race or color. the supreme court's ruling held a lower courts ruling that they violated section two of that act by packing all of the states voters into one congressional district. they ordered alabama to redraw its maps to include a second majority black district. but the alabama state legislators say that they're trying not to comply. according to the democracy docket, there are currently more than 30 section two cases being litigated across the country. and the current political court, it's already shifted four races from solid are to toss-up after the supreme court decision. so, here is what democratic congresswoman terri sewell who, represents alabama's only majority black district told me after the only -- the results of elections could be changed by this, but we must

remember this is not about democrats and republicans. this is about minority representation, fair representation. >> but this state a government in alabama, it doesn't seem interested in fair representation. yesterday afternoon alabama governor signed a new map into law, one that does not include a second black district. according to alabama house speaker nathan ledbetter, house speaker kevin mccarthy, you know the united states house of representatives? we actually reached out as the maps were being redrawn, and he expressed concerns about control of the house in 2024. think about that, books. as republicans keep pushing conspiracy theories about the 2020 election being rigged against republicans, some of them are actively working to dilute black voting power in alabama and beyond. joining me now to break this all down is anemic mullin, she's a deputy executive director of -- bucha. full disclosure, i know so much about voting rights because i'm

used to advising the voting rights people, and that is how i met and isa. all right, so let's talk about these maps. the alabama map is going to be reviewed by a panel of judges in the coming weeks. how likely do you think that they'll be redrawn? can they just ignore the supreme court? >> they will likely be redrawn. so that is something that there is -- it -- what will happen is that that panel of judges will review the maps, folks on the ground have until july 28th to submit their objections to the maps. and then then the court will likely bring in a special master to help them to redraw the map so that they're in compliance. as you laid out, they're completely not in step with what the supreme court required of the state of alabama. >> so i think a lot of folks have been focused on the political back and forth, the proceedings are down in alabama with the different state legislatures. kevin mccarthy calling it the drama of that.

but i think the supreme court ruling in this case and many other cases have far reaching implications. there were, as i noted, across two different states, there have been 30 different pending litigations. and right now, when i talk about the political report in alabama's first commercial district, second congressional district, and louisiana's fixed -- and north carolina's first congressional district, political report has already changed what is expected in these elections, given -- >> what happened. >> what happened here. so what about the implications for black representation across the south? >> well, you'll see as you said, remember that the case, because of the supreme court case, we now have president. the supreme court, which i remind folks has not been really kind towards voting rights -- >> in 2013. >> since expanding, since

shelby beholder, where we lost a lot of ground there with the vr eight. so even that court disagreed with those maps. and so that gives us some recourse, legal rescore's, it gives us a means of being able to challenge the mass and we ultimately believe that they will not be compliant with section two of the voting rights act. >> i don't know that you could just defy a supreme court decision. >> well, you can't. and it speaks to just how intentional the gop is when it comes to gerrymandering, when it comes to voting rights, because of the numbers that you specifically laid out. this could have potential, huge potential to impact the house for generations, because we will finally start to see maps in those very deep south states where there is a lot of black folks that are living down there. they are making the difference in terms of who has political power, if they are able to have free and fair access to the ballot. >> i want to talk about one of

these cases, specifically in georgia. it is alpha i alpha fraternity versus russians burger, the name sounds familiar. the plaintiffs argued that georgia's legislative districts drawn for the 2020 census actually dilute the voting power of black voters. and the courts actually kept these maps in place for 2022, the midterm elections, so the folks who are left in congress under these, they were elected under maps that are currently being challenged. what is the status of this case? >> it goes to trial in september, so it will proceed. even though the supreme court decision came down. but like i said earlier, because of the precedent in alan v. milligan, we're certain that there will be a extra district in the atlanta area. >> all before 2024? >> we hope. so we hope so. if it continues to move through the court and the court does reference of what was outlined by the supreme court, we should see another district in georgia. >> a guru, ladies and gentlemen. thank you for coming today.

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kamala harris thursday in indianapolis, pushing back forcefully against a cascade of right-wing attacks against fundamental rights in this country. she was delivering the keynote address at the national convention of delta sigma theta sorority incorporated, which is a historically black sorority which my mother was a member. i will be in trouble if i do not say that. during the convention, seven do henri members were inducted into delta sigma theta sorority incorporated. they included supreme court justices cassandra brown jackson, the first black woman according to the eye -- and my boss msnbc president rashida jones, the first black president to lead a cable news network. also inducted, deborah lee, tameka catching's, phyllis -- an ambassador denise jenkins. congratulations to all. we are very very proud of you here. and that's it for me folks, thanks so much for watching symone on this saturday. i am symone sanders-townsend, you can catch me here on msnbc

weekends at four pm eastern. and at peacock where we have new episodes every monday. if you want more of the show, including some behind the scenes videos you won't see everywhere else, find me on instagram, twitter, and the tiktok. politics nation with the great -- rev, the vice president you actually have the president of harvard university on your show today. there is a lot to discuss, and we will get right into it. thank you as always, great to see you in your pink tonight. you brighten up our evenings. >> it's giving barbie. >> the fabulous simone. good evening, and welcome to politicsnation. tonight's lead, mark your calendars.

this weekend, we now know the start dates for at least one of the trials against donald j trump. other legal cases against the former president appearing to reach an inflection point. trump's classified documents trial is set to begin may 24th, 2024. by that time, trump could be the apparent republican nominee for president. and according to a target letter from special counsel jack smith, trump revealed to the world this week that he received it. he could also be facing additional federal charges, related to efforts to overturn the 2020 election. nbc news learning this weekends that smith's team recently contacted georgia governor brian kemp, a spokesperson for camp confirmed. though the client to comment further. and as trump fac