>> good afternoon, i'm lizzy wiser in for yasmin vossoughian. breaking news on the showdown that is real. debate has begun on a law that has split the country. led to massive protests. the final vote is hours away. in the midst of all of this, the man pushing the law, prime minister benjamin netanyahu undergoes merge unseat medical procedure. have a live report in just a moment. new reporting today on a key figure in the election interference investigation of donald trump, his former chief

of staff, mark meadows. as the potential for indictment looms over former president trump, two of the people trying to beat him for the gop presidential nomination using different tactics to address the possibility on the morning shows. >> i think one more indictment against the former president will only contribute to that sense among the american people. as i said, i'd rather these issues in the judgment about his conduct on january 6th be left to the american people in the upcoming primaries. and then, i will leave it at that. >> i heard tim scott yesterday say that, like, well, it's not really the presidents fault. well, the president invited them there. he incited them by telling them the election had been stolen. and then he requested that they marched to the capitol. of course, donald trump said that he would march with them, immediately marched right back to the safety of the white house and watched what went on.

>> plus, president biden finding his greatest weapon against federal republicans, come -- marjorie taylor greene, and her own words. we're also keeping an eye on the surging temperatures once again around the country, putting millions at risk. all that and the next big change, elon musk is planning for a twitter which is sure to make some die hards not so happy. that's later this hour. we're gonna start that breaking news in israel. a political crisis that has been brewing for months is near its boiling point. just hours, the israeli parliament is said to beginning the voting process. prime minister benjamin netanyahu's controversial plan to strip power from the supreme court. tens of thousands are pro democracy, taking to the streets across tel aviv in jerusalem. nbc's raf sanchez is in jerusalem, joins us now. so, rough, why is the scene like their head of this monumental vote? >> well lindsey, you can see behind me the protesters have turned what is usually one of

the busiest intersections and downtown jerusalem into an absolute sea of blue and white israeli flags. these demonstrators say they will stay here for as long as it takes, even if it's overnight, to try to stop netanyahu's plan to weaken the israeli supreme court. they are chanting now, shame, shame, shame! that has been or the rallying cries in the protest. lindsey, we heard a few moments ago from the leader of a group of military reservists, these are men who used to be in the same commando unit, that benjamin yet who, israeli prime minister, one served. they're saying they will no longer show up for reserve duty if this legislation goes ahead. they say they signed up to serve in the military of a democratic country. they fear that democracy is under threat from netanyahu's plans. and if anything is gonna change, netanyahu's mind, lindsey, it may be this threat from the reservist to stop showing up.

especially an issue in the israeli air force. in some squadrons, half the pilots are reservists as opposed to full-time duty. over the weekend, hundreds of your air force pilots have said they're gonna stop showing up. the chief of staff of the israeli military says this is already damaging israel's military readiness. you can see the crowd going crazy here. one other protest leaders, on stage right now, now, lindsey, as he said that now is pushing ahead despite the fact he was rushed to the hospital earlier this morning to be fitted with a pacemaker. his doctors say he was suffering from heart arrhythmia, an irregular heartbeat. the prime minister posting video on social media earlier. he said he's feeling fine and that he plans to be in the israeli parliament tomorrow for the final vote as this legislation goes through. this is one part of his overall plan to weaken the supreme

court. this is a bill that would make it so the court can no longer rule israeli government decisions unreasonable. earlier this year, lindsey, the court ruled it was unreasonable when netanyahu tried to appoint a man convicted of tax fraud to senior government positions. these protesters fear that if that is struck down, there will be one last check on the governments power. they fear one of the things the government might do immediately is fire the attorney general, a law enforcement officer who has stood in the way of some of netanyahu's more extreme plans. right now, lindsey, netanyahu is planning to push ahead with this vote. it's not clear that this crowd even at these numbers, is gonna be able to stop them. lindsey? >> raf suntrust, we pushed you keeping us updated on everything going on there. we'll continue to monitor the situation. on the presidential campaign trail former vice president

pence continues to face an uncomfortable question today about his former boss, of course, now the recipient of a target letter from doj, another probe into the 2020 election, any possible interference. let's listen. >> his words were reckless, based on what i know, i'm not yet convinced that they were criminal. i obviously wasn't there for every meeting. i was busy trying to help reopen the country after the covid pandemic. >> so, joining right now, nbc's ryan riley. i mean, ryan, let's start there. we have new comments from pence amid everything we continue to learn about this target letter to trump. what can you tell us? >> i think it's a difficult position that a lot of the other candidates are. and obviously, a lot of them don't believe the election lies that really set all of this off. a lot of the republican base does. it becomes a very difficult chance for them to do where they have to, like, not knock

down some of those theories as much as they could. with mike pence i, think what you see here, sort of an example of how they're handling this. they say, well, this is irresponsible. but they can't really get at the heart of the matter too much because when it becomes really complicated. you're basically striking down something that much of your base believes. the sort of conspiracy theories about the 2020 election. the notion that millions of votes were stolen through, you know, dominion machines and all sorts of bad east huff. that's really the difficulty that i think they're in. with the criminal charges specifically, you know, we know they're battling essentially against something they haven't seen yet. you know, incitement is gonna be a high bar. we're not gonna see incitement arches, most likely, come out of this grand jury because that's a really big bar for them to overcome those first amendment hurdles. i think what the indictment is more gonna focus on is some of the actions he took with potentially corrupt intent, some of the mechanisms that he used in terms of fundraising, lying to his voters, essentially, about what he was

actually gonna be doing of his money that they were raising after the election. and then the fake electors scheme, having these individuals sign paperwork saying that donald trump won state for the actually lost, presenting those to congress. so, you know, they don't know the full scope of this. mike pence is obviously testified before the grand jury. that's all he knows really, essentially, what testimony he gave. he doesn't know the other components of this large looming investigation that has been going on now for months. lindsey? >> i want to ask you about a new report, in the washington post, about text messages mark meadows sent in the lead up to january 6th. i mean, you know all the ins and outs of this. what's took out to you about this reporting? >> yeah, those text messages were mentioned the january six committee report. i think the importance of the washington post reporting is that they're getting renewed focus from federal prosecutors. it really does sort of lift the cover off of all of this. of course, mark meadows was making jokes about this behind the scenes, most republicans don't actually believe a lot of

the stuff that was being -- by the president. there were one, guys laughing behind his back at some of the conspiracy theories that were coming through. so, having evidence of that and knowing how ridiculous a lot of these individuals actually thought these conspiracy theories, where it really is at the heart of this. really sort of essential and important because, you know, with donald trump, it doesn't federal prosecutors are gonna have to prove he knew he lost. then we have to prove he was acting willfully irresponsibly and should have known that he lost,, should have known this was the truth. he cannot be willfully blind to the notion that he lost right? he can't keep saying the thing that is untrue and acting as though it is. that's not how, that's not where the criminal line is really gonna fall here. it is important for them to highlight basically what his thinking was. >> okay. ryan riley, thank you. coming up in 60 seconds, she testified before the january six committee and has been in contact with the special counsel. i talk to trump's former deputy press secretary, sarah matthews,

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with sarah matthews, the former trump white house deputy press secretary who testified in the january 6th committee hearings. who revealed last week that she has spoken to the special counsel's team. here is what she said when i asked her if that also until testifying for the grand jury. can you tell us, have you testified before the grand jury? >> i have not. >> is that something that you will maybe, you anticipate being asked to do at a later time? something you'd be willing to do? >> like i said, i voluntarily cooperated with the special counsel, so, if there came a time where they asked me to, that be something to be more than willing to do. i don't see it on the horizon. >> given what we know from the select committee, do you think the special counsel eventually

will be able to have enough evidence to charge the former president? >> i think so. i don't want to get into specifics of what i think those charges will look like. a leave that to the legal experts. obviously, we need to see what the potential indictment does even look like and what additional evidence that the special counsel uncovered that maybe the house committee did not uncover. so, obviously, i think the house committee laid out a lot of evidence, making the case for some charges. i think it's very clear that donald trump was told multiple times from the campaign, from his white house staff, he lost the election, there was no evidence of substantial fraud, and he continued to push that lie and tried to overturn in a very coordinated effort, trying to overturn the results of the election. so, i think there will most likely be some of those charges the house committee recommended. >> joining me now is former assistant watergate special

prosecutor and msnbc analyst jill wine-banks, so, jill, what you make of the fact that sarah matthews hasn't been called to testify in front of the grand jury? >> probably is a necessary because she testified in public, before the january six committee. they already have that. she was willing to cooperate. there was no need to put her before the grand jury. her testimony and cooperation with the special counsel is something that is just as compelling and it's helpful to them as if she had testified before the grand jury. so it just wasn't necessary. -- i was just gonna say, you avoid the possibility of reducing different words technically and talking to the grand jury that she used in talking to the january six committee. so, you don't have grounds for cross-examination by the defense using the

inconsistencies. which are inevitable when a witness testifies. they never are able to say the same thing exactly the same way. in fact, if they do, then you know they're lying, because then it's a rehearsed speech where they got in the exact words exactly the same. >> well, the special counsel still interviewing other witnesses in the election interference probe. we learned, for example, friday, the georgia governor kemp has been called -- testified next thursday. is it so unusual to be interviewing witnesses after a target letter has been sent? >> it is unusual because you usually want to have 100 percent of what you could get without the target coming in to testify. so, it is unusual. but it isn't illegal or impossibly bad. so, i would say that there is still continuing the investigation. once there's an indictment, you cannot call witnesses before the grand jury. there is an indictment yet.

so, it may mean that it's not gonna happen on monday, tuesday because there's still processing the new information. and russell is interesting, not just because he can testify about the state of mind, but also because he can testify to donald trump's actions. he was there, he was next to him. he was doing everything that trump was doing. he can be a very powerful witness. this isn't his first time testifying. so, he must have a lot of good information. there's plenty of information about trump's state of mind. he was told over and over and over again that he lost and that there was no fraud. at this point, only willful ignorance could make him continue to tell those lies and willful ignorance is something the jury will be instructed makes him guilty. so he is not gonna get away with anything about his intent. >> when it comes to the

classified documents trial day, it's two months after the manhattan d.a.'s hush money trial, which will get in march. in the middle of the calendar between super tuesday and the gop national convention. was that a reasonable day for candidates to choose? how complicated will disappear the various legal teams? >> i think we're gonna see, lindsey, a lot of juggling of dates. we're still looking at the possibility of an election interference federal indictment, election interference georgia indictment. also has civil cases pending in that same timeframe. the e. jean carroll case the new york attorney general's case so he has a lot of trials coming up. in order for you to be able to participate in all of them have to be spaced in a way that beat simultaneous. they have to be -- so, there's gonna be juggling. i don't think the election calendar is going to be the thing that guides them.

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started the lbj expended on, joe biden is attempting to complete. >> here is how our own -- for sometime, i thought it was for the biden administration to paint green is the gop's true leader and capitalize on her repulsive-ness. the plan seems to be in effect. he joins me now. john jones, rideau blog writer. pick up there for us. why do you think this is a smart move? >> lindsey, thank you for having me on. what we've seen over the last several months, the ad you just showed or president biden mocking marjorie taylor greene at the white house correspondents dinner, or him free styling at the state of the union address, is how team biden has managed to effectively harness the potent repulsive powers of marjorie taylor greene for political good. by which i mean among many people, it takes minutes, if not seconds to understand that this is, and marjorie taylor

greene, someone who should not be within a stone's throw congressional power. president biden and his team have been eager to show this. i should make a distinction here too. saying that the biden administration has suffered greatly from marjorie taylor greene's actions, just speaking legislatively, she belongs to a caucus of republicans who has refused to pass any legislation unless that legislation is infused with bigotry, that's been awful for president biden's legislative hopes. when we look at the biden campaign that biden 2024 campaign. i think the chaos she's brought in congress is actually serving great political benefit. biden has been able to mock her with a lot of this chaos, to demonstrate this is not someone who americans should wind power as a leader of the republican party. also, just along biden to freestyle and go off script a little bit. which is something that he's traditionally liking to do. >> the congresswoman showed

photos of the president son that a congressional hearing just today after the president posted that that. you write in your blog that greens extremism is no laughing matter. why is that? >> well, as i just said, a lot of the things she is doing have serious ramifications. we're talking about legislation she's holding up with their public and party. just bigotry that she traffics as a leader of the gop. i caution people not to assume the, you know, president biden's jokes or the end of the marjorie taylor greene's havoc, the havoc she wreaks and convict. real life impacts actions. but i think, like you said, the political benefits it serves the biden 2024 campaign also cannot be ignored. so, it's a trade-off, this is somebody who's doing really terrible things for the country. when we look at specifically the ways these terrible things can be shown to the public and

be used to the biden campaign's political benefit, i think we cannot ignore that. >> you know being treated on the presidents twitter handle, it's an elevation. do you think though that some voters could be put off by this? on one hand, you have the president doing what many democrats get criticize for, that's not bragging enough about their accomplishments. is there a risk here of people seeing this as too much of a tit-for-tat? >> i don't think so. i think, what we're seeing here is the downside to gerrymandering. republicans have gerrymandered themselves to such an extent that they're not being held accountable by the majority of americans. they're not responding to the wants and wishes of the majority of america. so, i don't see a political downside to biden showing the public who happens to be in large part in a great within that marjorie taylor greene and the caucus she represents are not people who should be in

power in the united states, we should remove them from power as quickly as possible. >> okay, thank you for your time. >> thank you. >> coming, up if donald trump gets indicted on january 6th defense attorney says washington d.c. is the last place he would want to be tried if he were trump. he joins me ahead. and how the white house is reacting to florida's new guidelines for teaching slavery, things some black people benefited from it by learning a skill. learning skill. ♪♪ voltaren. the joy of movement. ♪♪ i was told my small business wouldn't qualify for an erc tax refund. you should get a second opinion from innovation refunds at no upfront cost. sometimes you need a second opinion. [coughs] good to go. yeah, i think i'll get a second opinion. all these walls gotta go! ah ah ah! i'd love a second opinion. no.

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governor ron desantis's board of education to change the way students are taught about the history of slavery, destroying heavy backlash. beginning in the fall, florida public schools will follow a new social studies curriculum that teaches the quote, benefits that slavery had for enslaved people. the averages changes prompted vice president harris to make an impromptu trip to the state on friday. she did not hold back. blasting the new guidelines in an impassioned speech in jacksonville. let's bring in nbc's ali. ali, walk us through these controversial changes happening in florida. what is the reaction? >> yeah, lindsey, civil rights activists, some students parents, teachers, are echoing that rebuke from vice president kamala harris. governor desantis is continuing to justify and defend these new standards changes. also, he's interestingly distancing himself from the backlash over them that's

following him from florida to the campaign trail. >> the battle over florida's new history curriculum. >> they insult us in an attempt to gaslight us. >> it's very thorough, very factual. nobody is buying their nonsense anymore. >> going national. a white house official tells nbc news that vice president kamala harris, decided to go to florida, specifically to challenge its new standards for black history education passed just days ago. >> they dare to push propaganda to our children. >> critics are blasting the changes, pointing to lessons that teach middle school students, quote, how slaves develop skills which in some instances could be applied for their personal benefit. >> this is unnecessary. to debate whether enslaved people benefited from slavery. are you kidding me? >> florida governor, in 2024 gop presidential candidate, ron desantis, at a friday campaign

event in utah, justifying this. >> they're probably gonna show some of the folks that eventually parlayed, you know, being a blacksmith into doing things later in life. >> but also distancing himself from the backlash. >> i didn't do it. i was not involved in the. >> the changes are partly result of a law championed by desantis. this is known as the stop will act. intended to curtail liberal teachings and public schools. some academics are defending the change. >> we had to write factual, objective african american history standards. the commissioners that, it covers a good, the bat, the ugly. >> while others vowed to stop such lessons from going national. >> you cannot nationalize mr. desantis's education curriculum. >> lindsey, this is the fight that biden world says they don't mind having. they are heavily leaning into this issue another cultural flash points being embraced by

republicans, positioning themselves as the ones who can protect freedoms that they say are actively under attack, lindsey. >> okay, ali, thank you for that reporting. the republican-led legislature of alabama is currently swearing off against the u.s. supreme court over its congressional map. the legislature refusing to create a new map that includes a second majority black district or by the court in a state where nearly 30% of the states population is black. meanwhile, in a small town of new bern, the man who served as the mayor for three years is now engaged in a federal civil rights lawsuit due to a council of white residents refusing to recognize his position, even changing the locks on the town hall building to deny him access. joining us now is evan milley, executive director of alabama forward, and lead plaintiff in the supreme court case over the new congressional map. so, let's go ahead and start there. i mean, we're waiting a federal court hearing in august where objections will be heard. what are your expectations for that? and coming off a win in the

supreme court, what recourse does your organization have? >> thank you for having me. we're expecting to be heard at the federal court on august 14th. we believe that that initial panel issued a very clear decision. the state appealed, and when the supreme court had an opportunity to review our case, to review, you know, the lower court's decision, they affirmed the decision. they asked our state legislature to go and create a second congressional district that would provide black alabamians an opportunity to elect a candidate of choice. create a district that is majority black or close to, something close to it. and this instance, the state of alabama chose not to comply with that order. so, we believe that the federal court will rely on its prior analysis of the case, will

ultimately prevail. >> why is this map so important to alabama voters in the country at large? >> this map is important because our country is in a dangerous place right now. it's something that's alarming to me. i think about a quote that general graham gave to mr. james hood, general graham was in charge of the alabama national guard around the time that miss vivian malone and mr. james hood integrated the university of alabama. it was general graham who asked wallace to step aside. i've been thinking about, you know what would've happened today in that same scenario if we had a relatively conservative alabamians, you know, serving in a position of general international guard, giving a federal order, federalizing his truth. is that an order that would be complied with? i hope it would. in this instance, we see that our legislature is not doing

that. this past thursday, you know, our government executed a man. that case was litigated to the last hour. when the supreme court gave his ruling where they actually allowed the state of alabama to carry out the execution, the state complied. they waited on the court they got the way back from the court they complied, they executed the gentlemen. in this instance, they get word from the court that they don't want to agree with, and then our, you know, being disobedient. we're at a time where we just came off of a january 6th insurrection attempt. this is not a time where states can play on issues about voting rights. i think our state has an opportunity to show the country something different in terms of leadership. i hope we would lean into our traditions of being brave and actually complying with the

constitution of the united states. >> i have to be quick on this last one, i want to get your thoughts on patrick -- serves as mayor of small town of new bern. he says he's been subjected to some of the most agree just racism we've seen in politics and decades. he is the town's legal mayor. his predecessor who was white, has refused to concede, reappointed himself and his white colleagues to leadership positions. what does the story tell you? >> again it speaks to the themes that run throughout looking at alabama politics historically and now. we have those that are standing up for traditions of freedom and democracy. those that are not ready to embrace it. i hope, new bern is a beautiful place, that's a real part of our state, as many things that, you know, contribute to our culture as far as food, different types of music. the community members down there deserve someone who wants to serve them. i hope they would listen to voices of reason, listen to

what is actually in the best interest of the children in that community. stopping someone from occupying the seat that they've been lawfully elected to is not in the best interest of the community members. i would hope that they would see that and be able to move beyond it. >> evan milligan, thank you for your time. >> thank you. >> coming up, how members of congress are reacting to the potential trump indictment on election interference. >> this was a very carefully orchestrated and choreographed plot to overthrow the election. there was nothing spontaneous are out of control about it. are out of control about it. >> coming up in our next hour. former homeland security chief of staff, miles taylor, joins us with his thoughts on the investigations into the former president. whether his talk to jack smith's team, why he says donald trump's campaign for reelection is a warning you do not want to mess. t want to mess unfilled cybersecurity jobs in the u.s. the google cybersecurity certificate

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and you'll receive a free beneficiary planner just for calling. >> lawmakers today reacting to the target letters sent to former president trump from the grand jury suggesting an indictment related to election interference in 2020. it could be coming soon. nbc's julie tsirkin is on capitol hill. julie? >> yeah, that is exactly right. and this target letter from special counsel jack smith, he does outline three very big charges that we can potentially see in this looming and likely indictment. those charges include conspiracy to defraud the u.s., to obstruct an official

proceeding, to intimidate a witness, a mystery witness that would not yet know the identity of. they do not include one potential charge, the january 6th elect committee recommended when they concluded their year and a half long investigation, sprawling investigation to the former presidents conduct before january 6th, on january 6th, and what happened after. take a listen to members of the january 6th select committee had to say today and what charges potentially missing from that looming indictment. watch. >> it's hard to imagine a president being involved in more serious misconduct. not so thinly veiled threats of violence or just what donald trump does when, you know, the law catches up with him. >> what appears to perhaps be missing is the count on aiding and abetting, assisting, giving aiding comfort to insurrection. >> now, of course, inciting an insurrection is what the house impeached the former president

on. it's what jamie raskin and adam schiff, the two congressman on your screen lead most forcefully in the conclusion of their committee hearing. the fact that jack smith, special counsel may not include that in his list of charges, again, we do not know yet if that is the case, adam schiff and raskin, other members of the committee, people a spoke to, they seem okay with that because they know that smith needs to be very careful, very targeted and these potential charges he's bringing against the former president and despite the other two indictments, this is the one that everyone was most waiting for. of course, members of congress, including the former vice president, mike pence, where in this capital when insurrectionists stormed the building. there is also so much more that went into the potential election interference that we know the former president did and accomplished after 2020. >> julie tsirkin, thank you. if donald trump is indicted in connection to special counsel's investigation into alleged election interference, the daily beast, michael daily, predicts those charges would almost certainly be brought in

washington d.c. where jurors have convicted one january 6th defendant after another. as of this may, 485 federal defendants have received sentences for their roles in the january 6th attack. nearly half of the 1000 plus riders have been arrested. an attorney for convicted january six defendants that, if i was donald trump, d.c. is, quote, the last place on earth i'd want to be tried. that attorney, sam schmegelsky, joins me now. so, sam, you told the daily beast that jurors expressed they were deeply offended by the capitol riot and the, quote, the overwhelming sense was that this was a personal violation, personal front. how do you think that applies to how a jury appears, we see the former presidents role. >> lindsey, i believe it's gonna be a very difficult venue for the president, ex president, if he is in fact indicted in d.c.. this is not a jury friendly matter to d.c. residents who will comprise the panel.

that is the last place he wants to be, as i said earlier. >> does that mean that potentially former president trump and his defense team could successfully argued for a change of venue? i know we're putting the cart before the horse here but. >> i don't believe there will be any change of venue. the fact of the matter, there will be jurors, yes, they will do the case fairly, listen the facts, decide the facts, apply them to the law. but i don't see a word in which the venue has changed. >> your client, dustin thompson, testified he believed that trump stolen election claims in marching on the capitol, trump had given him almost an order. what a juror say to you about that? >> lindsey, i don't believe that they really cared about the reason the capitol was attacked. unfortunately, we were unable to procure trump's attendance a trial, our defense, i think, was less impactful. so, i do believe oh that despite the lack of success with our defense, if the

president is indicted, it'll be clear to the jury, at least, from a factual standpoint that he incited these folks, encourage them, and frankly, aided and abetted them. >> you mentioned you tried to subpoena trump, you asked the judge to allow u.s. marshals assistance in serving it, the judge will do no. you had to use the civilian process server. what happened next? why did you want the former president to come in and testify under oath? >> i felt it was important for the jury to understand the rationale behind the words and language about trump and his companions, colleagues, what are we will call them, used to rile the crowd up, successfully insight them to attack the capitol. key component of the case. >> could your client's testimony be used in any way in the special counsel case? >> you know, i don't know what mr. smith intends to present by way of evidence. lindsey, i don't believe this would be a case where the facts are hard to establish.

everything is on videotape, both inside and outside the capital. so, there is no question what was said and who is that it, what the result was. it's just gonna be a question of whether donald trump will be fortunate enough to have one supporter on his jury. if he does, the walk. >> based on some of the defenses that you've heard the former president float around, do you think any of them, so far, could stick? and if you were on the former presidents legal team, which we know you're not, how would you go about jury selection? >> i would merely establish that the facts presented are not in dispute. trump has nothing to hide, he did nothing wrong, from his perspective. he certainly is free to tell people to fight like hell in congregate, make their voices heard. he agreed the election was a rip off and stolen, nothing but a witch hunt. as i said, lindsay, all he need is one supporter. that's it. it's nothing but a math game for him, he knows that, he's smart in that regard. i'm gonna sum his lawyers are as smart as he is.

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3... 2... 1... sweltering heat alerts in effect for 44 million people across the west and southeast. spending 13 different states. many are experiencing triple digit high temperatures, 5 to

20 degrees higher than average. that includes a heat advisory in effect for miami and south florida through atm tonight, with heat index values of up to hundred nine degrees. 20 now from miami is nbc's chris -- marissa -- miami has experienced a 43rd consecutive day of a heat index over 100. how are people doing? >> yeah, i mean, this is a place that knows heat, and between phoenix and miami, i have been in both cities in the last couple of weeks and i have been talking about heat for almost three weeks straight here. what is interesting is, again, we are talking about areas that are very familiar with me. different types of -- heat of course. in terms of how people are, coping i think here here in miami it is a little different than it is in phoenix. and i can explain those differences in just a second but at the end of the day it is summer in miami and summer in florida. people come here expecting the heat. but what i did find interesting is that even people who live here, who have been in miami

organ in florida in some capacity of their entire lives, you are gonna hear from one of them in just a moment, but even they are saying, this? even this is a little much for them. listen for yourself. >> no it is terrifying. i always talk about how global warming is just getting worse and it's gonna keep getting worse because i'm like this has been awful. these weeks have been a rough. rough to get through. >> so that definitely makes me anxious. if it is gonna get hotter? i don't know how we are going to make it. >> stay at home. >> we do this a lot. >> turned my ac at 68 at home. >> we do this a lot where we come outside and we -- especially during the summer. because we don't have a lot of places to do it indoors. so if this is what we have to deal with now, going into august and everything. >> yeah. >> >> now that was an outdoor dance troupe, and so they are outside, they were filming, they were talking about how hot the concrete is. but what i will say is that across the board, weather is in the southwest, phoenix, arizona,

or at, here i think what i'm hearing, he was on consensus is that it is just the stretch of days. right? for three consecutive days of a real feel in the triple digits in miami or in the southwest, even, phoenix arizona. you have three weeks straight of just the temperature, not the heat index. we are talking about just straight, times 110 degrees or higher. -- the difference out there really feel like i have a note here, it just feels muggy and humid. without their, i mean, we have temperatures upwards of 118 degrees. and it has been so dangerous. because you have things like the asphalt giving people third degree burns. that could happen in a matter of seconds. -- we talked to physicians out, there and that is become so dangerous. because the people most at risk here are those who don't have the privilege of air conditioning. we don't have the ability to just run from their car immediately into indoors. so the most dangerous parts here are the people who are working outdoors, who are forced to work outdoors. you have migrant workers, and

especially we have seen just how dangerous they can get at the border. so i think at the bottom line here at the end of the day, people are spending as much time as they possibly can. having those little fans, personal fans and ministers. because it is hot, lindsay? >> yeah all, right, marissa -- thank you to your new yorker. >> let's head to paris, where champion has been crowned for the 110th edition of the tour difference. as one of the world's premier bike race for the second straight. here the 60 -- 26-year-old sailed through the finish line of the champs-élysées with a final time of 79 hours, and 16 minutes. seven and a half minutes ahead of the second place finisher. a big congratulations. >> we have got a lot more coming, up you are watching msnbc, our second hour starts right now. >> welcome back everyone, i'm lindsay in four -- and as a new