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i don't remember being in two movie theaters back-to-back where there was more excitement, more anticipation, so you're right, it's sort of gotten people back into the feeling of how fun it can be to go to a movie. steve, thank you for that. and that's going to do it for us this hour. join us 1:00 to 3:00 p.m. eastern on msnbc. our coverage continues with yasmin vossoughian right now. hey, everybody, i'm yasmin vossoughian in for my friend katy tur. we are watching and we are waiting for news out of d.c. as a third potential indictment hangs over donald trump's held. it has been almost one week since the former president announced that he was a target in jack smith's election interference probe. here's where things stand at this hour. georgia governor brian kemp's office has confirmed he was, in fact, contacted by jack smith's team as part of the election interference investigation. what we know about the reach
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out, and where in the world, by the way, is mark meadows. donald trump's final chief of staff, and a key figure in the election interference probe has been mia for weeks. but new reporting from the "washington post" suggesting he's still very much on investigators' radar. multiple sources familiar saying meadows joked about donald trump's claims that thousands of dead people voted in georgia in a text message to a white house lawyer, what meadows' son, an attorney based in atlanta found in relation to voter fraud and what the exchange could us about trump's knowledge before his call with brad raffensperger on january 6th. and including that may 20th start date for the classified documents trial. we'll get into that as well. how it all slots into donald trump's packed 2024 agenda, who knows, and how much stickier it's about to get for his
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republican allies in congress. want to get right to it. we start today with nbc news correspondent covering the trump campaign, garrett haake, along with nbc news correspondent, vaughn hillyard as well. start us off. bring us up to date on what we know about this reach out to governor brian kemp. >> reporter: we don't know much. we know it happens recently, and as we know, it's been a special counsel's interest in a lot of what has happened in the several other states that put forward fake electors after the 2020 election. there was similar outreach in arizona to speak to former governor ducey, and we know the special counsel has been focused on questions of electors in places like michigan and pennsylvania as well. it speaks to the breadth of the effort by the special counsel to look not just at january 6th, which i think is something that people have to continue to kind of get their minds around here, that the scope of this investigation goes far beyond that, and greatly precedes that. so basically everything that happened between election day
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and the 6th and outreach to kemp who defended georgia's elections as safe, secure, and not full of the kind of fraud that donald trump and his allies were looking for would certainly be a figure that it would make sense for the special counsel to want to talk to given the breadth of the probe. >> hey, garrett, i know you're getting in new reporting, if you could walk us through regarding bernard kerik handing over thousands of pages of document to special counsel. what more are we learning about this? >> i hit send before i sat down in the chair. the special counsel is continues to get new information all the time, and among that new information are thousands of pages of documents that were handed over to the special counsel's office just yesterday by the attorney for bernie kerrick, the former new york police commissioner, trump ally who had been working with rudy giuliani running their own investigation to try to find voter fraud after the 2020 election. there had been a long back and
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forth, is my understanding, about some of these communications, whether they were privileged, and in what manner they should be turned over, but that review, and i'm trying to figure out exactly under the circumstances with which it ended, ended late last week, and kerrick's attorney, jim parlatore, all of that information was turned over late last night into this morning. again, we have a target letter a week ago, and the amount of information still coming into the special counsel's office continues even as early as late last night, and early this morning. >> so we are kind of on indictment watch. vaughn, i want to bring you into the conversation here as you have been on the campaign trail as well, alongside garrett, and we know the former president, amidst the developments, still very much out there. how is his camp? how is the former president react to go these most recently developments? >> reporter: when we get off the air, i'll be heading on the plane to louisiana because
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donald trump is going to be in new orleans for a fundraiser. we'll see if there are any other events as he tags on as part of the trip to the south. we know he's going to go to an event in des moines on friday with several other republican rivals. on saturday, he's going to be holding a rally in erie, pennsylvania, as much about the political campaign as it is about the legal defense campaign for himself in winning over at least the republican electorates, the public opinion, because for donald trump, you know, you just go and take a look at his social media account, if you really like to. i mean, just the example of one such post from this weekend was him posting on his truth social account, a graphic in which it said, quote, january 6th will be remembered as the day the government set up a staged riot to cover up the fact they certified a fraudulent election. in so many ways, donald trump, again, this is separate from his legal defense counsel, but donald trump himself is not denying so many of his actions leading up to that january 6th attack, as well as the events
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that unfolded that day. >> so amidst the two of you sending e-mails or jumping on planes, which it seems like is all you're doing these days, garrett, it's all about timing. we're on indictment watch this week. what are you looking out for as we are awaiting the possible charges here? >> well, look, there's been a pattern here. i expect one of the other missing pieces we have not seen, though i couldn't say with 100% certainty it hasn't happened is whether or not donald trump's defense attorneys have come to washington to meet with the special counsel or anyone up the chain in the probe for one last opportunity to talk the doj or special counsel out of charges. we saw that happen ahead of the classified documents indictment several months ago. i wouldn't be surprised to see that here. to me, that's the missing piece ahead of a possible indictment, and i really got my, you know, alert set up for the former president's truth social platform. he has made it his business to
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try to scoop prosecutors along the way to control the narrative around his indictments, he did it in new york with sort of less success, he was too early and the first to break the news of his own indictment in the classified documents probe, i suspect that's how we'll find out first if and when an indictment is handed up by this grand jury in washington. >> yeah, we've learned a lot more it seems over the last couple of weeks from truth social than we have from the classic reporting channels we usually watch. garrett haake, thank you, vaughn hillyard get to the plane on time, thank you as well. i can't promise it will take off on time. joining me now is barbara mcquade to talk about this. as always, great to talk to you my friend. a couple of things to tick through, we're getting this breaking news from garrett haake as well. let's start with that, former new york city police commissioner, bernard kerrick handing over thousands of pages to the special counsel, what do you make of that? >> two things are interesting.
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one is bernard kerik, was part of the willard hotel war room, very interesting and close to donald trump, and part of the group that could be linked to oat keepers and proud boys who led the attack on the capitol. if there's a link there, that could lead to charges of incitement of insurrection. the other thing is it could delay the ultimate filing of an indictment. we have been thinking it's coming any day because we got that target letter and trump had a deadline of last thursday, which made me think maybe the indictment is coming this week. if they're collecting documents to the group, that suggests they're not quite done. i will say this, just because they're investigating some other piece of it doesn't mean the main indictment has to hold up. you can file an indictment and continue to investigate additional crimes and supercede the indictment if those come to fruition. there might be some reason to do that, so as not to delay the whole case from moving haerksd
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-- ahead while you continue to investigate other tentacles of conspiracy. >> with that in mind, is that a path jack smith is going to take. would that lessen the charges, lessen the initial indictment if he were to take that forward? >> there are pros and cons to both approaches. i have taken cases where i thought a big chunk was ready, let's go ahead and get the charges, get the clock rolling, get things moving with the idea that some people charged might decide to flip, and you can have additional evidence against that key person while you continue to investigate those other tentacles. this case is so unusual because there's likely a goal of getting the trial completed before the november 2024 election. so the more you continue to investigate, the more sprawling it becomes, the more delay that gets built in. i think that's a different consideration than is often the case, that i think prosecutor haves to think about here. >> a couple of things i want to
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talk to you while i have you, we have a checklist of things we want you to answer. up next, brian kemp, this reach out to the georgia governor, what do you make of that? >> i think he's an important witness. seems like some of the focus is on georgia, which had a fake slate of electors, the telephone call reported with brad raffensperger, i think the governor as a republican could likely be a valuable witness because it would be difficult to cross examine him as someone who has political bias, and he probably knows what the actual facts on the ground were in georgia. makes sense this is the kind of person you wait until the end. you probably only get one shot at him. you want to be as armed as possible with all the of the information having talked to prior witnesses. >> you talked about the possibility of a flip, and we don't know as to whether or not this person has flipped or not, but there's a question of whether they have been amidst all of this, and that's the final chief of staff, the former mark meadows, we have reporting
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from the "washington post" that i want to read to you. in a text message that has been scru federal prosecutors, meadows wrote toe a white house lawyer that his son, atlanta area attorney blake meadows had been probing possible fraud and found a handful in dead voters names, far short of what trump was alleging. the lawyer teaseingly argued that meadows son find the thousands of votes needed to win the election. the text was described by multiple people in the exchange. this happened days before that now infamous phone call with georgia secretary of state brad raffensperger in which ark meadow was on the call. what can this possibly prove here? >> these are the pieces of evidence that make up the bricks that prosecutors used to build a wall of evidence to show someone's intent. juries are told you can't read another person's mind. you have to look to the totality
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of the circumstances, so you can make a reasonable inference. this is one piece of evidence. if you can combine this with other pieces of evidence a jury is going to say, yes, i now understand that he never believed that trump had actually won the election. he knew that they had lost, and he continued to persist in these efforts anyways. so that would be the gist of some of these charges like conspiracy to defraud the united states that would be so important to prove intent. that's one brick in the wall. >> where in the world is mark meadows, if, in fact, he is a target at this point or has he struck a deal with prosecutors? what do you make of this, his absence really? >> unknown. he might be taking his lawyers' good advice, don't say anything because you might be charged. but he would be certainly a valuable witness if he would agree to flip, and that's because he was someone so close
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to donald trump that he would be able to talk about some of those intimate conversations when no one else was around. meadow was present for all of them, and he could be incredibly valuable. i would think he has flipped and will cut a plea deal and testify. if he has not, he seems likely to be charged in light of all the evidence like the one you just described about his role. in those scenarios as a prosecutor, i would state to him and his lawyer, you have a choice, you can be a witness or you can be a defendant. the choice is yours. we'll see what choice he makes. >> and that's why we have you on all the time, barbara mcquade, you've got an answer for everything. thank you, my friend, good to see you. the doj told texas it had to commit to moving buoys in the rio grande aimed at deterring migrants by 2:00 p.m. eastern today. so what happened there. you know it, i know it, everybody knows it, deadly extreme heat, what you need to know about the week of weather ahead. up first, what's happening overseas, israeli parliament,
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with a partner that always puts you first. start for free at godaddy.com welcome back, everybody. we are continuing to monitor that breaking news out of israel where the governing body there just disregarded 29 weeks of sustained mass protests, warnings from allies at like joe biden, voices from its own opposition party to pass one of the most controversial bills in israeli history. inside the kenesset where the voting happened, shout escalated until security moved one person outside. protesters chained themselves to one another, police cautioning demonstrators as well, who blocked traffic, refusing to move. military reservists saying they're going to suspend work. it all followed the passage of phase one of the bill that will weaken israel's high court and
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make it tough for judges to reign in government overreach. i want to bring in from jerusalem, nbc foreign correspondent raf sanchez on the ground for us. i see a lot of action behind you. protests happening throughout the day. i believe the prime minister, netanyahu, addressing the nation just a couple of hours ago at this point. what has happened so far? what are you seeing? >> reporter: well, let's start with the scene here in central downtown jerusalem. you can see hours after the vote, there are still just enormous crowds of demonstrators on the streets, and that is not because the israeli police have not tried to clear them. just about 30 minutes ago, we saw police using water cannon, blasting huge streams of water into this human mass of people, but despite their best efforts, the protesters say they are staying on the streets. they are determined to keep up what they see as the fight for israel democracy.
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as you said, israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu addressing the nation a little while ago. he's calling for unity after this unbelievably divisive seven months and defending the legislation saying these were necessary reforms to curb the power of unelected supreme court judges who he says were standing in the way of his government, delivering the agenda that it was elected to carry out. but yasmin, the scale of opposition to the bill can be measured by the people on the street. it can be measured by the votes in parliament, but it can also be measured by the thousands of israeli military reservists who say they will no longer show up for duty because they signed up to serve a country that is a democracy and they are no longer sure whether israel is going to be one. among the reservists we spoke to earlier today were some veterans from the very same commando unit that benjamin netanyahu once served in. i want you to take a listen to
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what some of them had to say about their former comrades. >> i'm ashamed of him. i think he's the first dictator of israel. i think he's lost his heart. he is the corruption in the government is very high, and this overhaul, this judicial overhaul is riding the wave of the corruption. >> reporter: that's some very harsh words there from those former commandos. yasmin, as you said, the strains between the united states and israel also under strain with netanyahu ignoring that last minute plea from president biden to hit pause on this divisive legislation. yasmin. >> raf sanchez, thank you for being there. we appreciate you as always. i want to bring in israeli journalist and "axios" contributing reporter, barack
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ravid, and chief white house correspondent peter baker. it's not necessarily surprising seeing what's happening on the ground in israel, the opposition forces in the streets, along with the things that we're hearing from the opposition party, admits to israel prime minister's marked past in that country. all that being said, though, i know that "axios" received comments from president biden directly before in vote took place. what did he say, and is there any indication the prime minister might be influenced to negotiate a consensus deal here? >> thank you, yasmin. well, first at the moment, it doesn't seem that prime minister netanyahu listened to what president biden has been saying for quite a long time, for the last two or three months, and especially four different times, just in the last week, once in the phone call between them, and then in three other opportunities, including last night in a statement that the
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president gave me, but netanyahu didn't seem to listen and chose to ignore what biden said and just move on with the unilateral legislation. what president biden has been saying to netanyahu, including last night, 15 hours before the vote is that this is not what netanyahu and israeli officials have been promising to the white house, and they promise that this legislation would be watered down, that this legislation would be brought up consensus and the legislation was brought to a vote today. it was neither, it was a harsher version, and there was no consensus. it was just a unilateral step. >> peter baker, you make a fascinating point in some of your reporting in the "new york times," as we're watching live pictures in tel aviv, you see opposition demonstrators, waving
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the israeli flag, these protesting have been going on, and what's so different about this moment in time, especially when it comes to u.s., israeli relations and others, is that this is a purely domestic issue. >> yeah, right. there's been tension, of course, between the united states and israel as close as they are. going back since the founding of the state 75 years ago. i mean, every president at some point or another has had something of a quarrel with his israeli counter part over many issues, whether it be arms sales, strategy toward iran or particularly the situation with the palestinians. this is an unusual situation in which it is a domestic situation. it is a situation where israel is trying to decide what kind of government it wants to have. what kind of democracy it wants to have, and that's a rare thing for an american president to get involved in, and president biden has chosen to give his advice, publicly and privately. he's trying to say i'm not telling you what to do, but i am cautioning you to do it in a way
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that builds a broad consensus. there's clearly no broad consensus in israel over this and president biden essentially has been ignored by prime minister netanyahu at this point. >> there are real national securit issues for israel amitd this, showing some cracks. it seems amid opposition to netanyahu's government. all that being said is there a real domestic concern that his government could move further and further to the right amidst this latest decision and this latest legislation? >> i don't know how much to the right this government still has to go. i mean, it seems that to the right of this government, there's only a wall, so i'm not sure that this is even possible, but, you know, i wanted to say something about this being a domestic issue. it is a domestic issue because
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it has to do with israeli democracy, but for the u.s., it's not only a domestic issue, because one of the reasons that members of this coalition, especially those who are radical right wingers, jewish supremacists, the reason that they want it is in order to basically neuter the supreme court, in order for it not to be able to stop them from taking actions against the rights of palestinians in the west bank, and this is part of the, i think, the grand scheme of things. it's not only about israel. it's about the israel occupation in the west bank and without the functioning supreme court, it will be much easier, for any government, and especially this one, to significantly hamper even more the rights of palestinians. and there's another issue why this is not only the domestic
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issue, you see what's going on, a real crisis in the idf. the idf is the most important partner of the u.s. military in the middle east, there are u.s. forces in syria, in iraq, in the gulf, and if the idf is not functioning, if the idf has problems, this is a national security problem for the u.s. too. >> peter, real quick here, i think it's fascinating because a lot of folks are looking to the biden administration and the u.s., right, to help kind of broker a deal here, to quell what's happening in israel. they haven't been able to do before, especially with the palestinians. why would they be able to do it now, especially when it comes to this domestic policy? >> well, i don't think it looks likely that president biden is going to take action beyond words at this point. he's not going to punish israel by, you know, withdrawing some sort of a financial security aid
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or something like that, and short of that kind of inaction, prime minister netanyahu has made it clear he's not interested in president biden's opinion, not interesting in anyone trying to broker a deal. president biden sent a signal inviting, of course, the president herzog, who has a largely ceremonial position but who has been trying to broker a deal himself, president biden invited him to the white house. he was given a chance to address congress, he, in effect, as a mediator was given a great, you know, sort of prominence in the united states to make a point. it's a point that hasn't resonated, obviously, in the halls of the prime minister's office. the question is whether president biden is able to move forward more than job opening. the job owning hasn't worked. >> peter baker, thank you, barack ravid, thank you as well. coming up, dangerous and unrelenting, the record-setting temperatures we are seeing around the globe here.
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this go? >> it looks like a lawsuit. they have passed the 2:00 p.m. deadline. there was no commitment from governor greg abbott to remove the buoys. he said it was well within his rights to do more to combat than the biden administration has done. if you look at the numbers, even though they have spent billions on this project, they haven't been able to interdict that many migrants because essentially this is a federal law that falls to federal agents. what this means is likely we should now hear the doj keep good on its promise, and actually take texas to court, and abbot said we'll see you in court. it's like the shoe is on the other foot here, yasmin, because time and time again, we have seen texas lead other republican states to sue the biden administration over their immigration policies, and now the federal government suing text over their immigration
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policies. they think this will lead to more drownings of migrants. they have seen the wire texas has put up along the section of the border has led to a lot of medical problems, people being cut by this wire. they say it's not only inhumane but em impeding their work. this is teeing to be a case that could be a political showdown as texas governor greg abbott tries to show that he is able to do more on immigration than the biden administration. >> julia ainsley for us, thank you, appreciate it. a prominent arkansas psychiatrist is on the receiving end of a federal investigation. and lawsuits filed by more than two dozen patients. what he is accused of doing. you don't want to miss that. up first, an unarmed black man is mauled by a police dog as he surrenders to police. what the body cam video shows
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correspondent jesse kirsch. what more do we know about this, jesse? >> reporter: yeah, yasmin, so the officer here from circleville, ohio, outside of columbus whose conduct with the k-9 deployment is being reviewed is under scrutiny. we're told by the mayor here in circleville, that officer is on paid administrative leave. however, the mayor says that that officer was not immediately put on leave after the july 4th incident. i asked why, the mayor says he does not know. we are still looking for more information with plenty of unanswered questions right now about this concerning video, and we want to warn you, the footage you're about to see is disturbing. >> do not let them -- don't release the dog. >> reporter: in this newly released police body camera video, you can hear a state trooper repeatedly warning the officer, do not release the dog. with his hands up. >> reporter: despite jadarrius
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rose surrendering to authorities, they released the dog on the unarmed black man. >> get the dog off of him. >> reporter: in this body cam video released by the ohio state patrol, the 23-year-old cries out as officers move in. state police say the disturbing july 4th incident outside columbus, ohio, came after an attempted traffic stop. with rose driving this semitruck missing a left rear mud flap. >> troopers chased rose for a half hour, repeatedly trying to deflate his tires before he finally pulled over and got out of the truck. according to officials, rose called 911 himself before exiting the truck and raising his hands. >> come to me. come to me, man. >> reporter: that's when state police say a local circleville, ohio, officer, ryan speakman, deployed his k-9, which speakman
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commanded the dog to specifically attack rose. one state trooper walks away with her hands to her face, while the trooper who warns. was i not loud enough? >> reporter: police provided first aid to rose who was handcuffed. he was treated at a local hospital, and charged with failure to comply with order of a police officer. the columbus naacp member says the video reminds her of dogs being released in the 1960s, and this would not have happened if the driver was white. >> that an officer would release a dog on a black man who had his hands in the air and were on his knees, we were mortified by that behavior. >> reporter: we have reached out to the attorney for the suspect, jadarrius rose, he has declined
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to comment. we have reached out to the officer whose conduct is under scrutiny, officer ryan speakman, we have not heard back. we are expecting more information to be coming out in the days ahead. yasmin. >> really disturbing stuff there, hearing the officer at the end say, you heard me, right. jesse kirsch, thank you so much. appreciate it. still ahead, everybody. maintaining his innocence, nbc news investigating the shocking allegations facing a prominent arkansas doctor. but up first, the heat wave, it is threatening to make this literally the hottest week we have seen this summer, if you believe that. what that means for you. we're coming right back. ming ri. it's going to cost you money. t to this day i only paid what i had to pay for the device... when i go back everything is covered. there's so much you're missing by not having hearing aids. we'll find you a hearing aid that fits your lifestyle and budget at one of our over fifteen hundred locations. call miracle ear at 1-800-miracle
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get $1,000 off a 1025r tractor and 0% apr fixed rate for 60 months. welcome back, everybody. you remember last week, we reported on these record-breaking temperatures across the southwest. well, the heat is now spreading to much of the rest of the country as well, putting millions of more people under excessive heat warnings. nbc's marissa parra has more from miami. >> reporter: this is now day 44 in miami of a heat index, we're talking about real feel temperatures in the triple digits. now, not so bad if you're right next to the water, you have plenty of access to air-conditioning, plenty of access to water itself to drink, but it is down right grueling if you are outside, whether that is by choice, whether it is because of your labor, and we're seeing just how dangerous, if not deadly this is. this isn't just here in miami or florida.
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this is coast to coast, and this has not just been this week. this is something that has stretched on for weeks on end. in phoenix, i was reporting on how first responders are seeing the strain, hospitals are seeing the strain. we have seen rescues for hikers out of the west. we've seen hikers need to be either rescued. we have seen this become deadly for those who have been trapped on the trails. we've also seen this become deadly for those who have suffered from third-degree burns or internal body temperatures upwards of 110 degrees. so we talked about the strain on hospitals in places like arizona. we also had a chance to speak with the chief here, one of the chiefs of fire here in miami-dade county about what a strain it's putting not just on the first responders and the hospitals but on the men and women themselves doing all the responding to this uptick in the heat-related calls. >> when it comes to 43 straight days of these kind of temperatures, are you seeing a big difference here? >> we are seeing a big difference, speaking from personal experience and my fellow officers, we are seeing
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an increase in calls related to heat-related illnesses and injury, lightheadedness, fainting, fatigue. >> reporter: maricopa county, they have seen at least 18 heat-related deaths since april. this is something that's gaining traction across the south here in terms of measures that can be taken to protect those who work outside. we just saw an ordinance move through one of the first of many hurdles to come in terms of protecting workers that have to work outside, whether it's construction, farm work, that's down here in miami-dade county. when it comes to whether there's going to be a break in the heat, here's the thing, the heat dome is not only not going away anytime soon, we're seeing it's expanding now to include the midwest and the plains. >> wow. thank you for that. this extreme heat that we have been talking about, it isn't just hitting here in the u.s. it is across the world. nbc news correspondent josh lederman is joining us from rhodes, greece.
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josh, good to talk to you. tell us about what's going on with this fire there. >> well, yasmin, if you want a sense of just how fast this fire is moving, take a look at what's happening behind me. this is the town of masari, and just a few hours ago, this fire was nowhere near that town. now, it is coming down this hill fast, threatening the village. it's unclear whether masari is going to survive the night. this is happening all over this island. we were in another town earlier this morning, where a few hours after it was evacuated, the fire sweat through, made it all the way to the beach in some cases, and every time they evacuate another town, there are more people stranded, particularly tourists, because this is a holiday hot spot. now, i want you to hear from two tourists who we spoke to who are trying to get flights home out of the airport after their hotels were evacuated. listen to what they told us. how much time did you have to evacuate?
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>> like seconds, like seconds, like it was in a matter of seconds. we don't have our clothes, the only thing my dad managed to get was our passport. we don't have clothes. this is my uncle's shirt, my cousin's short, all of our stuff was behind. >> everywhere. the choppers were picking water up. the water bombers were picking water up. >> reporter: the firefighting effort here is massive involving airplanes and helicopters. they have to stop all of the airborne firefighting at night. the thought is every night it gives the fires a chance to grow bigger. >> quickly, as they're evacuating folks there, where are they taking them? do they have resources in place for them? >> reporter: you know, this is interesting. we're seeing this economic divide here, jasmine. the wealthier travelers are able to book themselves in five-star hotels that have availability. others are ending up sleeping on
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welcome back. a prominent arkansas psychiatrist is now under investigation by state and federal authorities on allegations ranging from medicaid fraud to the false imprisonment of dozens of his former patients. nbc's stephanie gosk has more from springdale, arkansas. >> reporter: security camera footage from 2022, shows brian hyatt making rounds of his arkansas hospital. notice something in the clip. he doesn't actually visit patients. not a surprise to shannon williams, a former patient in the hospital. >> all i saw of dr. hyatt was the back of his head. >> reporter: he didn't come in your room? >> i didn't see his face. >> reporter: dr. hyatt was running a scam. in a search warrant, relying on that security video, the a.g. alleges the psychiatrist claimed
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to treat patients he rarely saw and bill medicaid on the highest severity code on every patient. dr. hyatt did not respond to requests for comment. his team called the conclusions speculative. people that claimed lawsuits said what dr. hyatt did to them was much worse than fraud. they said it was false imprisonment. >> they said i was suicidal. i was sound of mind. >> reporter: an e.r. doctor said she was kept against her will. were you scared? >> i was terrified. >> reporter: she tried refusing sedatives. >> they sent in four nurse techs and grabbed me and held me down on my stomach and shot me up with a sedative. >> reporter: in arkansas and 21 other states, people who are a danger to themselves and others can be held against their will
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for 72 hours. but a request has to be made in court to keep them there. was that law being followed at northwest medical? >> from the more than 100 patients that i've spoken with, it was not being followed. >> reporter: williams was kept for five days, according to her medical records. no court request was made. in two cases, attorney aaron cash said he needed the sheriff sheriff's help. >> you saved my life. you don't understand. >> i wouldn't. i wouldn't want to have to be in here. >> reporter: cash alleges dr. hyatt's goal was to keep beds filled, whether patients needed to be there or not to keep billing. psychiatric patients are still being treated here. dr. hyatt was fired. the hospital is settling to pay
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back $200 million. in cases the hospital didn't have records justifying that patients actually needed to be hospitalized. hyatt's lawyers said he is the victim of a vicious, orchestrated attack on his character and service. the doctor has not been charged with a crime. as part of the settlement, the hospital denied my wrongdoing. in a statement, a spokesperson writes, we believe hospital personnel complied in all respects with arkansas law, which heavily relies on the treating physician's assessment of the patient. d.e.a. patients raided hyatt's office according to officials. but it's not clear if he will be prosecuted. williams says she struggles with the memories. >> i have flashbacks randomly. i don't think it's something that will leave. >> reporter: she hopes her story will help change the system so people who really need help will get it. >> great reporting there. thank you to stephanie gosk for that. that does it for me. "deadline white house" comes up next.
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hi, everyone. it's 4:00 in the east. if and when special counsel jack smith sets about serving justice to donald trump and those closest to him, could their roles in the deadly attack at the u.s. capitol, they could do so with one essential set of facts, facts that answer a fundamental question. did trump and his people know that their b.s. was just that, b.s.? did they know their lies were lies? to prove that in court, that yes, indeed, they did, prosecutors will draw from a number of sources. what we understand this afternoon, there's one avenue in particular focus for them. "the washington post" reports this, a specific exchange of text messages, is now being scrutinized by federal prosecutors. it's between mark med dose and eric
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