tv Chris Jansing Reports MSNBC July 25, 2023 10:00am-11:01am PDT
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for our political wrap-up. that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." be sure to tune in tomorrow when republican presidential candidate chris christie will be my guest. chris jansing reports starts right now. good day. i'm chris jansing, live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. donald trump splitting his focus today between the white house and the courthouse. because even as he gears up to raise big bucks at an event down south, his political and legal fate could come down to a decision by a d.c. grand jury. the latest on where jack smith's case stands right now. plus, the new evidence that keeps pouring in. plus, fires burning literally all over the world. you're looking at wildfires on four different continents happening right now. the new links scientists are drawing between the fires and the deadly heat and the changes
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we have made to our climate. and mitt romney says there should be an end date for republican candidates to prove they can knock off donald trump. seven months? then get out. we'll explain what's behind his plea to donors and why our guest thinks the senator should go much further. but we begin with members of a d.c. grand jury, fewer than two dozen people expected to meet today with the fate of former president donald trump in their hands. it is to understate it a waiting decision, deciding whether or not trump should be tried for the kind of serious offense the bill of rights describes as an infamous crime. one punishable by a year or more in prison. as the country waits for word on charges, special counsel jack smith and donald trump keep doing what they have been doing for months. for prosecutors, it is sifting through new evidence, thousands of pages linked to efforts by rudy giuliani and former nypd commissioner bernie kerik to
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uncover voter fraud. and for trump, it is forging ahead with his presidential campaign as if none of this is happening. scheduling at least three campaign stops in the next five days alone. i want to bring in nbc's vaughn hillyard in new orleans where the former president is hosting a fund-raising event. yasmin vossoughian is keeping a close eye on the courthouse in washington. and barbara mcquaid is a former u.s. attorney, law professor at the university of michigan and msnbc legal analyst. great to have all of you here. yasmin, what is new where you are today? >> i tell you, chris, as you said, this is really a very much a waiting game. you hustle down here and then we wait it out, but you're worried about the second you turn your back and then something actually breaks. let me walk you through what we know right now, speaking to our producer inside the courtroom. we know a grand jury has convened. but it is not the grand jury that we are watching for, right. we can't definitively say at
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this point whether or not that grand jury will or will not convene as of today. if not today, and that is a major if, keep that in mind, we're looking at the next date. they have been meeting every week tuesdays and thursdays. we're looking at thursday as the next day they would convene. we have been keeping our eyes here in front of the courthouse in washington and also around the corner as well, chris, where the garages are. that's where they bring the grand jury in through, that's where jack smith enters as well, there has been no spotting of jack smith as well. oftentimes you'll see them mulling around here for lunch, we have seen no sightings of that as well today either. there is that big if. they may still very well convene today, we don't know if in fact that's going to happen or not. let's look ahead to when in fact they actually vote and how that's going to walk through that process, chris, right, so the grand jury would vote on an indictment. if, in fact, that indictment is then delivered, the prosecutors would then have to walk that
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indictment over to the magistrate court, in which case then the indictment would be opened and not unsealed, but opened and the initial will be revealed, dt, donald trump or djt with co-defendants as well. let me make one final point. we're looking at the court date, trial date for the florida case, the documents case coming up in may of 2024, time is running out, right, for jack smith. we imagine as this is very much a waiting game for this to happen really any moment now. >> so, barbara, take us inside the room. most of us have never been there. give us a sense at what point and under what circumstances do jack smith -- does the special prosecutor's team say, okay, we're done here, and then what? is it a situation where it is like a deliberation in a normal trial, is there immediately a vote? take us behind the curtain. >> yes, so, what usually happens is the prosecutor makes a
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summation, like a closing argument, where they suggest to the grand jury that they believe that there is now probable cause to believe certain offenses have been violated. they might share with them a copy of the statutes they're talking about, they might discuss the elements of each of those offenses with them. and then after they have concluded that summation, they leave the room and the grand jurors themselves conduct a vote. in a complex case like this, deliberations might take a bit of time. sometimes in a simple case, the door is barely closed before the grand jury foreperson comes out and says you got your indictment. i imagine in a case like this it will take a little bit of time to discuss and mull over, but the standard is probable cause, not beyond a reasonable doubt, which means there is reasonable grounds to believe this person committed this crime. so, then, the foreperson would sign the indictment, the prosecutor would sign the indictment and then as yasmin said, at that point, they would take it down to the magistrate judge who is presiding to file it with the clerk's office. >> let's talk about this
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question of timing, it has us waiting on pins and hearing it at any time. and they just handed over thousands of pages of documents on sunday, a couple of days ago, and they're planning to meet with the special counsel in a couple of weeks. so, does that kick things down the road? could it be maybe not related to this case that we have been focusing on? could it be he doesn't need that with the grand jury? it is something he might use later at trial? all of the above? what do you think, barbara? >> yeah, it is hard to know exactly. but the investigation can continue outside of the grand jury scope. if this is an interview, if they want to gather more documents, that could just proceed in parallel track even if the grand jury is moving toward indictment. or, if they are very significant documents, it could be that they want to take the time to review those things and leave even questioning bernard kerik in the grand jury room. it is difficult to say. i don't think it is fair to say
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that they will not indict until after they speak to bernard kerik in august. but it is possible that they will. so i think we just have to sort of stay on indictment watch and day to day basis to see how things go because it is impossible to know all the things going on behind the scenes. >> we also learned from former acting attorney general donoghue he was interviewed by the special counsel and i want to remind everyone what he told the january 6th committee when he was asked about a conversation that he had with donald trump on december 27th, 2020. >> it was clear to us there were a lot of people whispering in his ear, feeding him these conspiracy theories and allegations and felt being very blunt in that conversation might help make it clear to the president these allegations were simply not true. and so as he went through them and what for me was a 90-minute conversation or so and for what the former acting ag was a two-hour conversation, as the president went through them, i went piece by piece to say, no,
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that's false. that is not true. and to correct him really in a serial fashion as he moved from one theory to another. >> we have talked a lot, barbara, about what trump knew or what he should have known about his state of mind, about his own beliefs. talk about how that fits into this case. >> yeah, this really is important as well as the sequencing of it. you said that occurred on december 27th. so, you know, over 90 minutes or two hours with deputy attorney general rosen they detailed why each of those false claims had no merit. and so, then on january 3rd is when jeffrey clark comes in and wants to send the letter to the georgia state legislature asking them to convene their members to vote for an alternate slate. and he comes close to firing jeffrey rosen. and so he continues then to push for ed raffensperger and perpetuate this claim of a stolen election. that moment is really important.
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because donoghue, a republican appointee in trump's own justice department, has told him otherwise. so, really important to establish his knowledge and intent. >> all right, vaughn what is the campaign saying about how trump is pushing ahead with his re-election bid under the shadow of another possible indictment and what are we expecting from him at both fund-raising and campaign stops this week? >> that's right, chris. here in new orleans, he's expected to land later this afternoon, he will be going to the home of a major real estate developer here in louisiana, for a private fund-raiser. we do not know at this time whether we will publicly get our eyes on him elsewhere here in louisiana, before he flies back to new jersey. we know he also has a campaign stop in des moines, iowa, on friday. he'll hold one of his traditional rallies in erie, pennsylvania, on saturday. you ask how is donald trump and his campaign planning to take a potential third indictment? well, let's be very clear, i don't mean to be cute about this, donald trump is going to
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continue to run this campaign and continue to say on the stump exactly what he said ever since he launched his bid in november of last year. you'll recall that merrick garland appointed jack smith just days after donald trump announced his 2024 presidential ambitions here to make sure that there was some separation from the department of justice with the investigation that could potentially seek to indict donald trump as it did in the documents case and as they will potentially do in the days ahead. i want to look at a fund-raising email that came out from donald trump in the last hour, he wrote the same department of justice who is trying to cover up crooked joe's crimes is trying to put me in jail for the rest of my life as an innocent man. for donald trump, the way he's run his campaign, it has worked. he has more than a 40-point lead in most national and state polls that have come out here in recent weeks.
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and if you look at a new monmouth poll out this morning, republican voters were asked who do you believe is the strongest candidate to beat joe biden in a general election? 69% of republicans nationally said that person was donald trump, compared to 31% saying another republican. for donald trump, it is us versus them, he's played the role of the martyr, of not just his own presidential campaign, but the maga, the conservative movement, the republican party as it stands today, and in so many ways not only is his freedom on the line, but he's contending to such a large swath of the american public that the conservative values that they want to see upheld in their united states government, those are on the line too, chris. >> vaughn hillyard, yasmin vossoughian and barbara mcquaid, thank you. israel on edge in the wake of the vote to limit judicial power. could perhaps the most consequential crisis in the country's history reshape
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versus 16 grams in ensure® high protein. boost® high protein. now available in cinnabon® bakery-inspired flavor. learn more at boost.com/tv it only has been a day, but the turmoil in israel is escalating quickly about concerns over its democratic future. u.s. banks are warning companies about conducting business in the country, due to an increased uncertainty. its stock market and currency sank today, doctors are on strike, and thousands of military reservists are still threatening that they won't report for duty. of course, we're seeing more protests across the country after a parliament passed prime minister netanyahu's controversial law limiting the power of the supreme court, the only real check on his government. "the washington post" editorial board writes that it ignited a political crisis of immense
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proportions, perhaps the most consequential in israel's history. "the new york times" says the law left one half of society wondering whether their country would slide slowly into religious autocracy. with us, edward guregen, former ambassador to israel. thank you for being with us. how concerned are you about the future of israel? >> i'm very concerned as many people are because as you stated in your introduction, this is a most consequential societal, political crisis in israel's 75-year history. and the whole legal order and the rule of law is being challenged in israel. as you know, israel doesn't have a constitution like we do or checks and balances in terms of the executive legislature and the judiciary. it has a basic law and that is the crux of the issue now.
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the new coalition government led by netanyahu is the most right wing extreme coalition government in israel's history, and it is determined to change the basic law in order to give the knesset, the parliament, more powers to conduct their policies, which are very, very right wing in terms of the internal issues that israel is facing, societal and the external issues in terms of the palestinians especially and the occupied territories. so this is a very serious crisis, i am very concerned about the future of israel as are the first instances the israelis who are demonstrating en masse. >> if you can hang with us, i want to go to nbc's raf sanchez who is there in tel aviv to get the latest on what is happening on the ground. what can you tell us, raf?
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>> reporter: overnight, we saw scenes of absolute chaos here in tel aviv and on the streets of jerusalem in the hours after that divisive piece of legislation passed through the israeli parliament, the knesset, tens of thousands of protesters took to the streets once again blocking major intersections, blocking highways. police at one point using water cannon to try to dislodge them. i want to show you one video from central israel late last night where you can see -- this is from the highway in central israel a car ramming into those protesters who were blocking the road there. now, police say three people were injured, fortunately none of them seriously in that incident. and the driver has been arrested, but that shows you just how high the tensions are. the protests themselves have died down today. but as you mentioned, chris, what started as a political crisis is now potentially endanger of becoming an economic crisis for israel. the stock market is down.
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the currency is down, people's pensions are down. the moodys rating agency has put out a new report saying it anticipates the political and the social tension as a result of this legislation is going to continue into the foreseeable future. it says israel's governments has become much less predictable, much more willing to take on risk, and the economic drumbeat of bad news reached the point that prime minister netanyahu, his far right finance minister put out a statement earlier today saying this is a momentary response and they are insisting that the fundamentals of the israeli economy remains strong. we're hearing something kind of similar about the security situation where the israeli chief of staff, the head of the israeli military, was forced to make a statement today, saying that the military, which is supposed to be above politics, has to his dismay been dragged into the political fray over the last few weeks. we have seen thousands of
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reservists saying they will not show up for reserve duty in protest of this legislation. and israel's top general saying that the military needs to preserve its unity if it is going to achieve is core mission of keeping this country safe. >> raf, thank you so much for that. ambassador, let me start with the first point he was making, which is about the economic impact there. today, a protest group representing high tech workers took out front page ads in five of the newspapers and it was a black page, israel's tech sector workers at the forefront of these protesters. protests, arguing the overhaul would undermine democracy and the faith in the country's court system and they say that will have the impact of scaring away investors and talent. the stakes here are so high. how important is it, mr. ambassador, for some kind of calming action quickly? how loudly is the clock ticking? >> i think the clock is ticking very loudly.
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the effort that was made just before yesterday's knesset action amending the basic law and really modifying very seriously the supreme court of israel's purview, the effort, i think, the effort should have been made before the knesset acted, president biden made a point to prime minister netanyahu, both privately and in a public statement to a news agency, that the vote should be delayed. delay the vote, don't take the vote now until you can garner a broader consensus in israel to avoid the divisions we're seeing and the consequences we're seeing. >> i don't mean to interrupt you, mr. ambassador, but is there something you think that president biden can and should do now? >> well, i think we have to continue to try to influence the
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government of israel, to really put on the brakes and not continue with the amendments that they're going to pursue even further. for example, the next step, one of the next steps will be the selection of judges, the committee that selects the judges to the supreme court. if they proceed on that also, you're going to see the situation deteriorate even further. >> ambassador, thank you so much, we appreciate your time today. virtually impossible if not for climate change. the scorching heat, bad air and torrential rain and how the frequency is only going to get worse. you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc. you're watching "chris jansing ports" only on msnbc age is just, and mine's unlisted. try boost® high protein with 20 grams of protein for muscle health versus 16 grams in ensure® high protein. boost® high protein. now available in cinnabon® bakery-inspired flavor. learn more at boost.com/tv
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a brand-new climate study out today finds that the extreme heat we're facing right now could not have occurred without climate change. as the ap puts it, the fingerprints of climate change are all over the intense heat waves gripping the globe. and right now that heat is impacting millions. in the u.s. today, more than 46 million people are under heat alerts with phoenix expected to hit 117 degrees. that would be a record 26 consecutive scorching days of at least 110. in canada, nearly 1100 wildfires are still burning from coast to
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coast with 661 of them still out of control. and in greece today, more people are being forced to evacuate as new wildfires are blazing in more popular tourist destinations. the prime minister is now saying they are, quote, fighting a war. nbc's maggie vespa is in minneapolis. also with me, meteorologist michelle grossman and michael mann. good to have all of you. extreme heat, polluted air, major challenges for folks where you are in the twin cities. get us up to date. >> reporter: it is bizarre, right, to be talking about extreme heat out of minneapolis, minnesota. i talked to you from here before about blizzards and bone-chilling cold, what the city is known for. now i'm standing on a packed beach in minneapolis. this is the extreme heat kind of day one. it is arriving here as we speak with temperatures set to soar up
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to over 90 degrees and people are cognizant of the fact this is their dose of what the southwest has been getting for the last several weeks. that heat wave is expanding and spreading east. so here's what people kind of in this part of the country are getting that first taste of it had to say experiencing this. >> real hot. 100 degrees. triple digits for, what, four days? >> nothing you can really do. nothing you can do. it is hot. >> it is terrifying. i talk about how that global warming is getting worse, it is going to keep getting worse, this has been awful, the week has been rough. >> those realizations really now hitting coast to coast, literally. you talked about the air quality, chris. we just double-checked, minneapolis is number ten of cities in the world for worst air quality. so tenth worst air quality in the world right now in minneapolis, minnesota. you see some of the haze behind me. that is the story of the summer from those canadian wildfires. also on the list, as far as american cities go, detroit and
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chicago. that heat, that smoke blanketing the midwest. people very aware people down south have been experiencing this for weeks and now the heat is spreading across the country. chris? >> maggie vespa, thank you for that. so, michelle, the heat dome just seems to keep expanding. what is next? any relief in sight? >> i wish i could say there was. we're looking at this heat expanding to the northeast over the next few days. it is not moving, it is expanding. we're seeing record temperatures in the northeast by friday. and, by the way, we're looking at some really heavy downpours too. that's directly linked to a warming atmosphere. i'm sitting from my home studio in bucks county, i hear downpours outside, not far from the fatal flooding we had two weeks ago. let's start with the heat. we're looking at dangerous coast to coast heat. most of us are seeing above average temperatures with the exception of the pacific northwest. we're looking at a staggering number over the next seven days, 285 million people will see temperatures over 90 degrees and 50 million people will see
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temperatures over 100 degrees. heat indices, 60 million will feel temperatures over 105. right now, as we sit here, looking at 41 million americans under heat alerts. heat advisoies and we're starting to see that expand, where maggie was, and portions of the midwest, so hot today, we'll see that continuing over the next few days. phoenix, sweltering heat once again. we had temperatures over 100 degrees there for weeks and weeks. we're going to see that once again. looking at some of the numbers, triple digits in so many places. las vegas, phoenix, albuquerque, el paso, lubbock, and then north. we're looking at denver, near 100 degrees today. that's well above normal for this time of year. 90s in st. louis. 102, wichita. no relief tomorrow. that's going to expand to the east. we spun that math a bit to show the temperatures are expanding, so chicago, 90 degrees tomorrow. part of the problem is you factor in the humidity and we have a lot of humidity in the
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air, a lot of moisture in the air, will feel like 96, feeling like 94 in baltimore tomorrow. 88 degrees in buffalo. that's tomorrow. then late week, this sympathy is when we get to the northeast. hartford, temperatures 95. 95 by friday. d.c., same story, 100 degrees on friday. omaha, temperatures in the triple digits. heat indices, this is what you need to prepare for as you go outdoors, 106 in d.c. storms in portions of the northeast and we do have a severe thunderstorm watch that's until 8:00 and this is directly linked also to a frontal boundary, the heat and the humidity. >> michelle grossman, thank you for that. so, michael, back to the study. scientists concluded that without human induced climate change, the extreme heat in china would have been about one in every 250 years. the heat waves in july here in
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the u.s., mexico, southern europe, would have been virtually impossible. is this the summer that the warn -- is this summer the warning we knew was coming, but maybe we needed to spark change? >> well, let me say this, if you lose me, it is going to be because of the thunderstorms that are currently rolling through philadelphia right now. yes, this study in a sense tells us what we sort of already knew that we would not be seeing these unprecedented extreme weather events in the absence of human-caused warming from the burning of fossil fuels and carbon pollution that results from that. but it is useful that it quantifies that. and it puts some rigor to, you know, these linkages we're seeing and the catastrophic weather events that are playing out in real time. if anything, here is the irony,
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this report is probably overly conservative because the models that they're using to do that at attribution, to show that human activity is increasing the likelihood of these events, the models they're using don't resolve all of the processes that we think are responsible for these extreme events that we're seeing. in particular, the behavior of the jet stream and the way these heat domes just get stuck in a given region and stay there day after day, that has to do with complex behavior in the jet stream, that isn't perfectly captured by the model. if anything, this stark report is understating the impact that human activity is having on the extreme events. >> when i was reading it, even as somebody who tries to keep up on this very closely, it was very stark and beyond the cause and effect. not only are we humans fueling more intense extreme weather all around the planet, but the frequency and severity of such
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calamities is likely to worsen with time. it says this, unless the world rapidly stops burning fossil fuels, these events will become more common and the world will experience heat waves that are even hotter and longer lasting. a heat wave like the recent ones would occur every two to five years in a world that is two degrees centigrade warmer than the preindustrial climate. so, what are we not doing that we should be doing? is it even possible to reverse the trend at this point or could we freeze it? >> yeah, let me say that statement, that's the critical point, the report does make very clear that we're not seeing runaway warming, we see no evidence of that. these events don't signify that. they simply indicate that as we continue to warm the planet, we're going to see more extreme events. and quantifies that. and that continuing to warm the planet is really critical because developments in the science over the last decade give us a little bit of reason
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for cautious optimism here. we understand that if we slam on the brakes, on fossil fuel burning, if we bring those carbon emissions to zero and we can do it, we have the technology to do it, the only obstacles are political at this point, then the surface of the planet stops warming immediately and all of these extreme events that we're seeing, they are driven by the surface warming of the planet. so if we can stop that, by bringing carbon emissions to zero, we prevent this from getting worse. now, we still have to contend with elevated risk. it would take decades at least for us to bring the planetary temperature back down. so, what we're talking about is limiting the warming, you know, and preventing further exacerbation of these crises, and putting in measures, you know, the -- putting in place the measures that will be necessary to adapt to those changes that are now baked in. we're dealing now with the world of elevated risk.
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we have to accept that, but we have to prevent it from getting worse and we can do that if we act. >> professor michael mann, thank you so much, i know you got a new book coming out and we'll look for that as well. hope to have you back on again soon. now, a new warning about possible drug shortages after a tornado went through that pfizer plant in north carolina. in a letter to hospitals, pfizer noted that because of the damage at its warehouse in rocky mount, there are now 65 different products experiencing supply disruptions. that list includes medicines containing the anesthetic lidocaine, the painkiller morphine, and other basic hospital supplies. two-time republican presidential hopeful mitt romney telling megadonors who don't want to see another trump presidency, he has a plan to keep that from happening. we have that next. first, going for the gold, or maybe more accurately a lot of gold. 26-year-old american swimmer katie ledecky making history
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republican senator mitt romney is out with the latest attempt to stop former president donald trump from clinching the republican nomination. in a "wall street journal" op-ed, he calls on republicans with no chance of winning the nomination to drop out by february 26th, and encourages donors to not, quote, fund a trump plurality. but as the guardian points out, the never trump movement is in the middle of a brutal wake-up call. trump critics and groups founded to take on trump getting very little traction. quote, as the 2024 election looms, there is no coordinated plan on how to derail the trump train or alter the trajectory of a race that is still his to lose. even critics at mitt that the external events many were
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counting on to thwart his candidacy has not hurt his standing. i want to bring in senior msnbc political analyst matthew dowd. okay, matthew, mitt romney is talking, but what are the chances anyone is listening? >> i find it interesting that mitt romney is making all these suggestions about what other people need to do not stop donald trump and not doing things on his own that could have an effect on whether or not donald trump is the nominee. the problem mitt romney has is a couple of things. donald trump is already over a plurality and in the polls a majority. if he was going to do this effort, it probably should have taken in place in my view six months ago before donald trump hit 50% in the polls. even if half the candidates drop out, he's still at over 50% and wins the winner takes all states in the course of this. megadonors don't control the
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process anymore. it is controlled by small donors and donald trump has showed that. his ability to raise money, 30, 40, $50 at a time and he can outraise anybody else and so the idea that he's going to -- mitt romney wants to signal to megadonors what to do in this process, they really don't control the process. the students are in charge of campus today and the deans have left town. and that's what mitt romney doesn't seem to understand about the republican party. >> well, i wonder if the other point is if candidates and i think it kind of makes your point, if candidates drop out, is there any indication there is somebody that would beat him even if it is a smaller field? >> that's a good point. if we took a look at this and if you said who should we -- who should the republicans coalesce around seven months ago when donald trump was at his weakest, i think everybody had the idea that it was desantis, that he was the strongest alternative to donald trump. as we watched, the last 60 to 90 days, ron desantis is a very weak challenger in this.
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he's actually continued every week to drop in support, drop in support, drop in support. and in many polls he's in the teens right now against donald trump. it is part of the problematic things people externally trying to tell republican primary voters what they should or shouldn't do, in candidates that we think are going to be good and scott walker is a perfect example of this from 2016, 2015, everybody thought he was the candidate, and he ended up dropping out long before the iowa caucuses, i think, and i tweeted this out earlier, if mitt romney really wanted to have an effect, mitt romney could stand up and say, me, and senator murkowski and maybe one or two others, if donald trump is the nominee, we're going to become independents and caucus with the democrats in the senate in order to hold the maga side of the party accountable. that would send more shock waves through the system and maybe get people to actually do something about donald trump, but as of today, donald trump is katie
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ledecky and he's already passed the republican primary voters in this and he's riding in their wake on the way back to the finish line. >> always follow your twitter and that is exactly what you said. caucus with the dems to keep the gop maga in line, but maybe kind of, like, people dropping out, because you know better than anybody how insular and sycophantic campaigns can be, it is very hard to convince people to do that when the rest of the world -- >> there is a lot of ego. >> a little. matthew, good to have you on the program. thank you. still ahead, the sentence just handed down for a january 6th rioter who committed one of the most brutal assaults that day. and the terrifying health scare for lebron james' son. the latest on the young rising star's condition after he collapsed during a workout. you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc. you'reat wching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc gain flis
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18-year-old bronny is out of the icu and in stable condition. they say yesterday while practicing bronny james suffered a cardiac arrest. medical staff was able to treat bronny and take him to the hospital. he is now in stable condition and no longer in icu. lebron and savannah wish to publicly send their deepest thanks and appreciation to the usc medical and athletic staff is for their incredible work and dedication to the safety of their athletes. bronny just graduated high school in the spring, expected to start playing for usc having been a four star recruit considered to be a rising star within the basketball world. his father lebron talking about his goal of playing with his son in the nba and now this happened. we're getting well wishes as well from across the sports world including from 25-year-old
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damar hamlin, the safety for the bills who suffered cardiac arrest back in january. hamlin tweeting prayers to bronny and the james family as well. here for you guys just like you have been for me my entire process. now, hamlin himself seemingly made a full recovery. he is expected to report to the bills training camp this week. >> erin, i know you'll keep us posted. thank you for that. a january 6 rioter who repeatedly beat a police officer with a flag pole has been sentenced to northern four years in prison. 44-year-old peter stager said in court he thought the officer was a member of antifa, something prosecutors called a chilling motivation. this video shows stager in the moment as he used the flag pole to beat the officer who was dragged down the steps of the capitol and into the crowd. stager said he does take full responsibility for his actions saying i messed up.
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into the water and never resurfaced. emilie ikeda has more. >> reporter: this morning tragedy on martha's vineyard after the long time personal chef and friend tafari campbell was found dead 100 feet from shore. the grim discovery monday morning followed an hours' long search and rescue effort involving divers, boats and helicopters that began the night before. officials got worden a adult male went missing after another paddle boarder saw that he struggled to stay on the surface and submerged. the pond had parts 8 feet deep. >> no life preserver, wearing all black, they have not had eye contact on him. >> reporter: the 45-year-old was married with twin sons. his wife posting that she was, quote, heartbroken.
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campbell had posted videos of himself practicing swimming several years ago. he served as personal employee of president obama for years. the pair first met when campbell worked as a sous chef at the white house. >> you take the beer bottle and you fill it to the top. >> reporter: in 2015 -- >> you're making a mess. look at that. you're a little nervous, savannah is making you nervous. >> reporter: in a statement mr. and mrs. obama say their family is heartbroken adding tafari was a beloved part of our family. and we got to know him as a warm, fun and extraordinarily kind person who made all of our lives a little brighter. emilie ikeda, nbc news. we have a lot to cover in our second hour. let's get right to it.
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at this hour, the indictment watch in washington as former president trump braces for charges in the special counsel election interference probe. he is fundraising off the investigation. plus inside white house efforts to expand access to mental health care, making sure they say that it is as easy as being treated for a broken bone. and wildfires continue their rampage across popular vacation spots in greece. thousands forced to flee historic numbers with american tourists among those leaving everything behind. and our nbc news exclusive, a look at the war on terror in west africa. how the u.s. military is training special forces to fight off the next threat. our reporters are following all of the latest developments, but we start with former president trump keeping busy as he awaits a possible third indictment. garrett haake is following this for us.
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