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you. i'm in for katy tur today. hunter biden left the courthouse in delaware after entering a not guilty plea. that's not what we expected the president's son to do before he entered court this morning. it appears the deal he struck with prosecutors is now in doubt. it started when the judge presiding over the case asked two questions, whether the deal shielded hunter biden from potential charges down the road, and whether he was still under investigation for actions in foreign countries. prosecutors and hunter biden's defense lawyers couldn't agree on the scope of that agreement. and unless the two sides can reach a resolution, a criminal trial, the first ever for a child of a sitting president could proceed. this was always possible, but as hunter biden's lawyer told katy tur last month, they hoped this would all be in the rear view mirror by now. >> prosecutors are not asking for jail time. are you concerned that the judge here might freelance? >> i think, you know, look, there are documents that haven't
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been publicly released yet. i think people have reported what the prosecutors are asking for. i think you have to wait until the court proceeding happens to know, but, you know, i think the judge is going to do what's fair, and i think what's fair is, you know, my client gets on with his life. >> let's get to the courthouse now, and nbc news investigations correspondent, tom winter who was inside during the proceedings today. also with us, former u.s. attorney and msnbc legal analyst, joyce vance. tom, how did this happen? >> reporter: well, it happened because what is normally a routine hearing and normally a routine plea agreement process, and prosecutors seeking more of a fast tracked opening, if you will, where a judge would sign off on the agreement, provided she was able to make sure the defendant in this case, hunter biden understood the terms of the agreement, understood the scope of the agreement, and understood his rights, and the
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rights he is waiving as a result of the agreement, and then should have typically moved on to a normal process. there are a couple of things that came up that the judge keyed in on that she said she had concerns about, and that's the reason why we got to where we are today, which is essentially both sides have got to confer, address the judge's concerns, and then presumably come back here again. but the deal as it exists is not in effect right now. the judge did not accept the plea agreement, nor did she reject it. she said, you've got to figure out some things. two key areas that i think she wants to key in on. number one, this idea that she might be the arbiter of fact when it comes to hunter biden's gun charge. it's a felony gun charge, and it's up for pretrial diversion agreement, that means the judge has nothing to do with it. that's an agreement between the prosecutors and the defense and the person who's charged and it's outside the court system. that's normally what happens. in this particular case, they put a clause in there and said
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should prosecutors bring up conduct that hunter biden might do hypothetically in the future that would violate the scope of the agreement, they would like the ability to go to the judge and have both sides be heard and the judge determine the facts if the agreement was violated. and the judge says wait a minute, i feel like you all are asking me to be the gate keeper of whether or not the governor can file charges. prosecutors can file charges in that case. it's a constitutional question, a separation of powers question. prosecution said this is an agreement between me and the defense, if we're fine with it, chris clark representing hunter biden, we're not going to challenge this on constitutional grounds. it's our agreement, we're here. the judge says she has some concerns. she has concerns about the interplay between the plea agreement on the tax charges and the pretrial agreement which we learned for the first time today has to do with a potentially felony tax charges there. there's a lot of details to be worked out here. how soon those details are worked out, what that ultimately
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means for the case, time will tell. >> joyce, what's your reaction to how this has played out? was this just one big misunderstanding? >> tom does a great job of parsing through all the of the confusion here, and this is an anomalous situation. normally when you have a pretrial diversion agreement, that's the resolution of biden's gun charges, that's standing on its own, and there's no opportunity for the parties to go in to court and have it vetted like it is here. so that's part of the confusion. the issue with the tax charges, though, is that the judge did raise some legitimate concerns. under federal rule of criminal procedure 11, the party's have to engage in this discussion among themselves. the court doesn't play a role in negotiating a plea agreement. it's just like any other contract. it's between the government and the defendant, but here the judge has to accept it, and in order to do that under rule 11, she has to find that hunter
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biden is making a knowing and voluntary waiver of his rights, that he understands the scope of the agreement. that's where everything breaks down here. there's this fundamental disagreement. the defense seems to believe that all of his legal exposure was concluded with this agreement. the united states attorneys office on the other hand seems to be saying, you know, not so fast. we're continuing to investigate other matters. and there could be, for instance, charges over failure to register as an agent of a foreign government. that's something that the parties need to work out. it is part of their contract, and if they can, in atctout, th back to the judge. and ask her to reconsider whether she's willing to accept the agreement. they'll still have to resolve this constitutional side issue. under the constitution, charging decisions belong to prosecutors, judging don't get to decide who gets indicted or what they get
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indicted for. i have a sense that the confusion here is because there's sort of a parallel proceeding in situations where a defendant is on supervised release. and the government, usually the probation office will initiate the proceedings and go to court and say this defendant, who's on supervised release, has used drugs, and we would like to revoke their release and return them to custody. that's a decision the judge makes. should they be revoked, how long do they go for, but in pretrial diversion, it's something very different, where the government ultimately controls the future charging decision. >> as a layman, it's hard to understand all of these legal, you know, positionings, the maneuverings and just how it works in the system. you did a great job taking us inside and telling us some of those legal specifications, but i think at home viewers are wondering what does this mean if they can't come to a new deal? does this mean hunter is going on trial?
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could he face new charges? >> both of those things are accurate. if there is no deal, the case will proceed to trial. there could be additional charges because biden was pleading guilty to information. the government could now and would have to now go back to the grand jury and charge him. so they could add additional charges in this sort of a setting. >> and, tom, do we have any more clarity on where weiss's investigation stands? we know five years ago, this probe began with looking into hunter biden's foreign business dealings, is that part of the investigation over? >> we have two irs agents who have testified before congress under oath, seemingly saying that they thought the investigation had wrapped up and they were disappointed with the outcome of it, and raised specific examples about instances that occurred in the
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case of the prosecutorial processes. in the federal court system, and both of those relevant districts, so that's a potential option here. the other thing that the judge kind of got at today, she drilled into statement of the facts and especially as hunter biden, when he became sober when he had his last drink, and she keyed in on that, because some of the conduct that he was going to plead guilty to today in accordance with that plea agreement he signed, some of that conduct was after he was in sobriety. and so she was kind of making the point that the errors that were made, and i'm using the defense's term, errors, that were made in this case, that those were made while hunter biden was of sound mind and body. that could come up at sentencing. that could be something of interest as we continue to follow this case if it's charged. >> tom winter, keep us posted. >> if it goes to trial, excuse me. >> exactly. and if there are new charges that he ended up having to face. joyce vance, stand by, i want to
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bring in nbc news white house correspondent mike memoli. this is the first time the doj has brought charges against a son or daughter of a sitting u.s. president. politically and personally, you have to assume president biden was eager to put all of this behind him. any word from the white house on these developments? >> reporter: i'll start with the politics. clearly there had been indications that the white house wanted to move on, and put in the spotlight the president wants to run on for reelection, and as karine jean-pierre put it, are more interested in attacking the president's family than working to improve the lives of american families. this certainly complicates that by keeping the legal cloud around him as it relates to this potential justice department, u.s. attorney investigation in delaware ongoing. now, the personal is very different. president biden and his son, they have been through the trauma of losing president biden, his son, hunter biden,
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his brother in 2015. that was clearly at the root of hunter biden's sobriety issues during the time period that was under scrutiny here, and so as we've continued to hear from the white house about this issue, they focused just on that, on the personal and the president's number one focus being on the health and well being of his son. we heard that today from karine jean-pierre. let's take a listen to her. >> hunter biden is a private citizen, and this was a personal matter for him. as we have said, the president, the first lady, they love their son, and they support him as he continues to rebuild his life. this case was handled independently as all of you know by the justice department under the leadership of a prosecutor appointed bymer president, president trump. so for anything further, as you know, and we have been very consistent from here, i'd refer you to the department of justice and to hunter's representatives who is his legal team obviously who can address any of your
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questions. >> reporter: the other important point here is to underscore what has been the primary focus of the white house, making it clear their contention or statement, there is a fire wall between the president and the justice department, he has not been interfering in any way to influence the prosecution. obviously in this case, of his son, but certainly also of his political opponents as republicans have argued is, in fact, the case. >> mike memoli, appreciate your reporting. thank you. we are also following new developments in the special counsel election interference probe into donald trump. the three sources who tell nbc news that they were interviewed by smith's office and what that signals about a potential shift in the special counsel's focus. plus, the federal reserve has raised rates again. what that may mean for your wallet. and we're live on capitol hill with reaction to the hunter biden hearing. what speaker mccarthy had to say about it. we're back in 60 seconds. y had y about it we're back in 60 seconds
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now it's an opportunity for when david weiss said he wanted to prosecute on other jurisdictions on other items, you can see that. you watch when the irs spoke that the statute of limitations running out on the most serious tax provisions with the biden family. during that talk, they said the biden family is willing to waive that. so i'd like to see the biden family waive and not worry about the statute of limitations and look at everything, just like every other american would have to do. there shouldn't be two justice systems in america. >> house speaker kevin mccarthy and his conference have long called the agreement offered to hunter biden a sweetheart deal, but now that that has collapsed, some are celebrating, others are getting to work. let's go to capitol hill and nbc's ali vitali. has this lit a new fire under republicans? >> reporter: look, you heard that familiar refrain there from speaker mccarthy, the idea of a
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two-tiered system of justice that republicans are often talking about is once again being reupped in this moment. just because it's a familiar refrain, in light of this plea deal falling a part in the way we thought it was going to be as we started the morning, you and i together. now that we're hearing from senate and house republicans who are almost happy about this newest development. listen to what some republican senators told our team today? >> it's really serious when you have credible allegations of bribery of the sitting president of the united states. i can't believe i have to say that out loud. should there be an investigation into that, yes. i don't care what vehicle they use for it. >> you shouldn't, look, you shouldn't impeach someone, particularly the president of the united states, unless you have substantial evidence of a high crime and misdemeanor. if the house gathers that evidence, i will look at it.
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>> reporter: what senator kennedy is talking about, the idea of impeaching a president, this is something that's somewhat related to the hunter biden stuff, but not exactly related to what happened in court today, what he's talking about there, is speaker kevin mccarthy facing pressure from some members in his ultra right wing to impeach president joe biden over a myriad number of issues. mccarthy, instead, falling short of that saying that they could open an impeachment inquiry that would allow republicans to use what mccarthy called the apex of their majority power, their political power to investigate the white house. it's not clear that he's willing to go there yet, but this is one of the ideas being bandied about, and it does have political ramifications on the other side of this. it would mean moderate republican members who go home to positively biden districts would have to defend the decision to move forward on impeaching a president, and it would really only continue the partisan divide of that previously sacred move for accountability from congress to the white house. >> let me pivot for a moment because we're just learning about a scary moment with
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senator mcconnell, moments ago, that happened there on capitol hill, what happened and how is he feeling now? what do we know? >> reporter: been a really busy day on capitol hill. just in the last hour or so, as speaker mcconnell was coming to the podium for his weekly gathering with reporters, in the middle of his remarks, this happened. watch. >> been good bipartisan cooperation. and a string of -- >> mitch? >> are you okay, mitch? >> anything else you want to say, or should we go back to your office? do you want to say anything else to the press?
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>> go ahead, john. >> you watched the senate minority leader there being helped by his colleagues, senator ernst asking him if he's okay. she did the sign of the cross, praying for her colleague. a physician asking the minority leader if he's okay, asking if he wanted to go back to his office. a mcconnell aide tells us this was a moment mcconnell felt lightheaded. you see him grabbing the podium before walking away, going back to his office, just down the hall from where the presser was held. he came back, spoke normally, answering questions from reporters, telling reporters on the record, simply i'm fine, after this moment. which was really concerning here in the halls of congress. you'll remember that just a few months ago back in march, mcconnell fell leaving a fundraiser here at a washington hotel. at that point he sustained a concussion and fractured ribs. he was out of work for several weeks. of course back now, and this is just the latest moment that
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we're watching, but his office saying just a moment of lightheadedness and he's fine in his own words. >> we certainly hope he's okay. ali vitali, thank you. democratic senator from nevada, jackie rosen will join us on the week's long blockade holding up 270 military promotions. what that gridlock is doing to our national security, and when that might end. first, why the special counsel is focusing in on white house meetings, one in particular that happened back on february 14th of 2020. articular that happened back on february 14th of 2020.
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we're back now with news on the special counsel's election interference probe, and where jack smith could be shifting his focus. three sources tell nbc news that they were interviewed by smith's office about a white house briefing back in february of 2020. now, of course before the election, donald trump was still president at that time, and those in the room, including fbi and cyber security officials
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laid out how difficult it would be to compromise the presidential election. two sources familiar say trump was receptive. he even wanted to hold a news conference on this issue but never did. so what changed? and prosecutors are still talking to past and present members of donald trump's circle, what former cyber security chief chris krebs told investigators. plus, over in georgia, an apparent concession from refugee rudy giuliani, in a statement, giuliani said he, quote, does not contest that his statements about ruby freeman and shaye moss were false and carry meaning that is defamatory. that's not quite an admission, but is it a shift? i want to bring in nbc news justice and intelligence correspondent, ken dilanian. what do we know about this white house meeting back in february of 2020 and why smith is now looking into it? >> reporter: this was a briefing for the president by senior
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intelligence officials and cyber security officials who explained to him that the u.s. elections system was really difficult to interfere with, difficult to hack. and that they had taken steps to protect it in the wake of attempts by foreign governments, china, russia and others to interfere with american elections. they shored up the system, made it impregnable to hacking and other kinds of interference. president trump, according to our sources appeared to be gratified by that. as you said, you know, cajoled them that maybe they should announce this in a news conference and crow about it, so his administration could get credit, and the reason that's important is it shows that jack smith, the special counsel is trying to delve into trump's mindset, his state of mind and what he knew about election security with the suggestion that when donald trump was making those bogus allegations of fraud after he lost the election, he knew or should have known that many made no sense, in particular, the allegation that voting machines were
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manipulated and he had been briefed by senior officials in his government. it suggests they are going right at donald trump's state of mind. >> we mentioned chris krebs, former cyber security chief, part of the department of homeland security under trump, he confirms he has spoken to prosecutors in jack smith's office. do we know what he has been telling them? >> well, he's got a huge story to tell, not just this meeting. he would have been a part of this or familiar with it, so he was involved with shoring up the election, and then after the election, remember, he looked into every possible allegation of fraud or irregularity, and he and his agency, the cyber security and infrastructure agency concluded there was none, and went public, this was one of the most secure elections in history, he was fired by donald trump for doing that. he's got a very important story to tell about mr. trump's knowledge about election security, and his potential criminal intent. >> ken dilanian, really appreciate that. thank you. back with us now, former federal
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prosecutor and msnbc legal analyst, joyce vance, explain the legal significance of donald trump being receptive to our elections being sound? >> this is part of the narrative prosecutors will build about donald trump's state of mind, what lawyers call mens rea. it's an essential element prosecutors would have to prove at trial. what you do, when you can't get inside someone's state of mind, you have to find circumstantial evidence of what they knew and what they were thinking, and you use that evidence, you accumulate it piece upon piece. here prosecutors are going back to an early stage where donald trump seemed to be aware that elections would be fair, that they were well protected. that's a great starting piece. they'll also have evidence about trump saying during the campaign that he would not commit to accepting the results of the election if he lost. there was always this notion that he would accept an election if he won, but not if he lost.
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and then that builds into evidence that prosecutors have acquired if they've gotten everything that was available to the january 6th committee where there are statements that trump is actually making to military advisers and others where he acknowledges as much as to say that he has lost and that there will be decisions for the next guy, joe biden, or where he seems to be i believe i lost to that guy. prosecutors will put all of that together for the jury, and all of it combined becomes proof beyond a reasonable doubt. that's what prosecutors hope to achieve. >> one person they were able to talk to that we know, the january 6th select committee wasn't able to talk to is mark meadows, trump's former chief of staff. we keep asking what is up with him. we haven't seen him. our cameras caught him in d.c. this morning, here's what he said to reporters. >> have you testified before the grand jury? >> i don't talk about anything. >> reporter: do you feel it's appropriate, the investigation?
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>> how notable is his silence? he wasn't defending trump there? is he just, you know, taking the likely advice of attorneys not to talk, do you think, or could he have struck a deal with smith's team? >> so most of the people who have stuck by the former president's side have been very vocal about that and have wanted to make sure that the president knows they support him whenever they're questioned about it on television. i think in that sense, we can look at meadows' failure to respond and legitimately raise questions. is he cooperating, is he perhaps concerned that he himself has criminal exposure, so he unlike trump is keeping a low profile. i think we won't know the answer to that question until we see an indictment, but at that point, it will likely be very obvious from the sorts of information included in the indictment, the allegations the government is able to make, as to whether or not it was able to get some form of cooperation from the
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some big news now that could impact your wallet, federal reserve chair jerome powell says they are no longer forecasting a recession. this comes as the u.s. central bank announced yet another interest rate hike, raising rates to a target range of 5 1/4 to 5 1/2%. that makes this the highest borrowing rate we have seen since 2001, and it also marks the 11th hike in the u.s. central bank's past 12 policy meetings. it's a little bit of a mixed bag on the news here. joining us is cnbc senior analyst, and commentators, and coe-ceo of contrast capital partners, and jeffrey wilfurs at the university of michigan. no longer forecasting a recession, that's significant news. >> i think it was a hedge statement, in the sense that powell said there's a path to a so called soft landing in which
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the economy slows down and we move closer to their target range of inflation at 2%. he held out the possibility, however, that even if there isn't a recession, we could see an up tick in the unemployment rate, which would mean that we'd come off the 3 1/2 to 3.6% rate we've seen of late, and possibly lose some jobs in the process. so i think it was a nuanced statement, and there's one observer that put a few moments ago on twitter a lot of people may see whatever they want to see, both in the fed statement and news conference. >> we have the sound, let's listen to it. >> the staff now has a noticeable slow down in growth, starting later this year in the forecast, but given the resilience of the economy recently, they are no longer forecasting a recession. >> no longer forecasting a recession, professor and this news comes as americans are feeling more optimistic about the economy because inflation is cooling, so why the rate hike?
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is it really necessary right now, professor? >> chairman powell's comment, and giving it a big hug, who's not excited to see the recession talk behind us. and, you know, why raise rates? raising rates apparently because we're a little more optimistic there's not a recession coming, and so while on the one hand, chairman powell is very optimistic that the economy is going to survive without a recession, he sounded somewhat more pessimistic. he needs to be convinced that inflation is really on the way down, as far as the fed wants it to go, and as fast as it wants it to go. and so he's been in a little bit of a war with markets saying i'm going to keep interest rates high for quite a while. markets haven't believed him, and he went out again today and said, no, really. i mean it. >> so, ron, if you take a look at some of the other economic headlines we have been reporting on, u.s. consumer confidence hit
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a two-year high, wage growth starting to out pace inflation, at least month to month, but recession fears still linger. that was one of the headlines. and as you point out, it's sort of a hedge comment, like we think we're out of the woods, but maybe not. what's going well, what's still worrying people? >> well, the economy, for the first time in my experience, i haven't seen an economy this split, where you have certain sectors in recession, manufacturing portions of the residential real estate sector are in recession. the consumer is doing well. manufacturing and technology are doing well. you can't make a uniform statement about exactly where we are. the economy is growing a little bit north of 2%. inflation in my estimation is coming down much faster than fed chair powell would admit, and so i think this is overkill on the rate increase side. but the economy is okay. i wrote a couple of weeks ago, we're as close to a goldilocks environment as we might see for the foreseeable future, and it's
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just, in my estimation, i think the fed should probably stop here for good. the chair held out the possibility that rates could move towards a more normal level in the years ahead. they don't expect their inflation target to be hit until 2025. there's still a lot of open questions. i think the economy is reasonably in good shape. the g7 nations are growing faster with lower inflation. on a relative basis, we look far better than the rest of the world. >> we have used that goldilocks analogy before. how would you characterize the state of the u.s. economy right now. are we better today than we were a year ago? >> i think goldilocks is exactly right. even better than that. we have unemployment, which i think of as being the single indicator that tells us most about whether people are suffering, whether they can find work, whether they can find dignity. unemployment right now is at a 50-year low. this is an economy that if you had fallen asleep three years ago, and you predicted where the economy would be, you wouldn't
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have been as optimistic as to think it is where it actually is. and you wouldn't have known that, even despite the fact that we had a global pandemic and a global recession in between. we really are not for everyone, but overall, we're really in an unexpectedly good place. >> i'm really happy to have some good news on the show today, thank you both for delivering that for us. ron insana, justin, good to see you both. democratic senator from nevada, jacky rosen, what she and her colleagues plan to do to stop tommy tuberville's ongoing blockade on military promotions. that's next. n military promotio. that's next. cosentyx helps real people get real relief from the symptoms of psoriatic arthritis or psoriasis. serious allergic reactions and an increased risk of infections or lowered ability to fight them may occur. tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms, had a vaccine or plan to or if ibd symptoms develop or worsen. i move so much better because of cosentyx.
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♪ go to your happy price ♪ ♪ priceline ♪ welcome back, we are continuing our coverage of what happened not too long ago in delaware. hunter biden has pleaded not guilty to federal charges after a surprise disagreement among prosecutors and hunter biden's lawyers over a gun charge. this was supposed to be a plea deal, straightforward, not so much. let's bring in democratic senator from nevada now, jacky rosen, a member of the senate arms services committee. i have a lot i want to talk to you about. let's start on the breaking news today. you're reaction to hunter biden's not guilty plea? >> thank you for having me today. and what i want to say is this, nobody is above the law. and there's a trump-appointed prosecutor. we know the department of justice. i feel confident that they're going to have a fair and thorough process, and we'll see that through to the end. but what i'm really concerned about and i know what we're going to talk about is we're
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going to start voting on the national defense authorization bill this evening. we're going to talk about the safety and security of our nation and that senator tuberville and his extreme views are putting our nation at risk by holding up key military promotions across every single branch of service from his extreme views for not wanting women to travel to get the reproductive health care they need. >> to ask you another question regarding the hunter biden case because it's something that obviously is a focus of attention there on capitol hill, especially among republicans, and as the outcome in his criminal case remains uncertain, republicans in the house are even talking about impeachment proceedings against president biden to further investigate allegations that the justice department meddled in the hunter biden case, which the doj denies. attorney weiss also denies. doesn't this warrant further investigation? >> i'm going to leave the
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pundits to discuss this, but it is really a distraction from the maga extremists. we have a lot to do. we're going to be voting on the national defense authorization bill. our faa reauthorization bill comes up september 30th. the farm bill. this is how we feed our country, feed our nation. that's coming up. the house and the senate, we have a lot of important work to do, and we need to get down to business because people are counting on us every single day. >> yes, but according to recent reuters poll, 50% of americans believe hunter biden was treated leniently because he's the president's son. this is something that the president is still having to deal with. your party is still having to deal with, especially looking ahead at the 2024 election. why do you think that's the perception by the average american voter? >> like i said, i'm going to let the pundits discuss all of that. i'm up in 2024. i'm worried about nevada families. i want to talk about what's important to people on the ground because when i'm at home,
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what people talk to me about is taking care of their families, their parents, reducing the price of prescription drugs. having affordable housing, making sure their kids have a good education. and just lowering costs, bringing good jobs, and so i'm going to stay focused on that, the extreme maga republicans, they can go down this path that's taking them away out of leadership roles, things we should be working on, things people want us to work on. that's what i'm focusing on. that's why nevadans sent me here, and i'm part of two top ten lists, top ten bipartisan senators overall, and one of the top ten most effective democratic senators, and we're going to agree where we can and fight where we must. that's why i want to talk about tommy tuberville. >> we've heard from a lot from republicans during the hunter biden hearing, and i wanted as a member of the democratic party to hear your perspective on all of this.
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let's switch gears and talk about your colleague tommy tuberville and his ongoing military blockade. you and your colleagues sent a letter to mitch mcconnell urging him to step in here. we're talking about almost 300 military positions that are impacted right now. promotions that people are waiting on. so far, nothing has changed. what do you plan to do next in this fight? >> let me explain why this is so reckless. tommy tuberville knows, you can't win a game without your key players. he's holding up promotions in key positions in our military across the nation because of his extreme views. department of defense just created a rule for the ability for women to travel for reproductive health care. he's holding up nominations, like the commander of our warfare center at the fair force base, the crown jewel of the air force, where we train every air force pilot not just in america
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but around the world. we have people's lives on hold, kids who need to start schools, their families, and let me tell you northeast importantly, our adversaries are watching, looking for any cracks, vulnerabilities that we have. so when there's no one at the warfare center to be sure, at these key positions that we're training and protecting 330 million americans and the men and women who serve, they're going to take advantage of us. he knows that. what he's doing is reckless. we have always promoted these folks. we need to continue to do that. and i shutter to think the safety and security that he's putting at risk, the longer that this goes on. >> senator tuberville is doing this over an abortion policy from the department of defense that pays for women to get health care in other states, including abortions. >> it doesn't pay for women to get an abortion. it allows the women the right to travel to get the reproductive health care they need. it does not pay for that health
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welcome back, a scary moment in new york city when a crane collapsed in the heart of new york. take a look at this, you can see it is on fire, right, that causes part of the structure to snap off and it hits the building across the street and swings back and hits the building under construction. 200 firefighters rushed to the scene they were able to dismantle the crane and extinguished the fire. millions of americans are under the heat alert for one of the hottest summers ever reported. people are trying to steve pool by the water. water buoys off of florida's coast recorded water temperatures as hot as the average hot tub ocean temperatures reaching over 100 degrees on monday.
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health officials are telling people to stay inside, find a building with ac. farmworkers can't. there is no reprieve for them. covering this part of the story for us. talk to us about the types of conditions that these farmers are forced to work through right now. >> farmworkers are one of the 100,000 workers here that have to work outside. they've been doing it during the heat wave. they are exposed to the sun in areas that you can see behind me in this nursery where there is no shade. they come in at 7:00 a.m. and they work until 4:00 or 5:00 p.m. the only thing they can do is cover themselves as best as possible. this industry uses a line of undocumented workers. it is difficult for them to be willing to step forward and
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talk about the issues and the conditions they are facing. we spoke to a representative from the farmers association that said this is what they have been facing. >> a member told me just last week that she has her lunch break from 10:30 to 11:30. they avoid drinking water to not use the restroom because they are not allowed to have brakes. they do not have brakes and the luxury to lose a days worth of work because they need that money for their weekly or monthly expenses. >> i spent the last few days talking to workers in the fields nearby and i asked them how part of you been working during this heat wave? most of them say they have been putting in six or seven day weeks during the heat wave.
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that is how much they are working. from sunrise to sundown. >> that is such a thankless job. thank you so much. that is it for me today. thanks for being here. deadline white house starts right now. right now. hi, everyone. there is a lot of news today. we will cover all of it. key players, we are looking at you, rudy on the january 6th attack on the u.s. capital. he admitted to lying about georgia election workers that were covered during the conspiracy theory. they were caught up in and harassed because of those conspiracy theories about their role in the 2020 election. we start today with a tumultuous day
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