us online on facebook and twitter @andreamitchellreports. chris jansing starts right now. fteron, i'm chris jansing live from msnbc headquarters in new york city. right now the grand jury is in place and former president donald trump's lawyers met with special counsel's office according to three sources familiar with the matter. the pressure intensifying, it's been 11 days since trump says he received a letter from jack smith's team saying that he's the target of the special counsel's case looking into his attempts to cling to power after the 2020 election. we have nbc reporting on the preparations being made by trump's legal team and are closely watching all the activity in and around the courthouse. and hunter biden at the center of a different courtroom legal drama. it was all expected to be settled by now, but today his lawyers are trying to hammer out a new deal while republicans seize on the delay as they

strengthen their argument that the president's son got a sweetheart deal from the justice department. also this hour, a very close call in the sky, passengers and crew on an allegiant air flight narrowly missing a private plane at 23,000 feet. one passenger calling it terrifying. but we begin in d.c. where former president trump's already unprecedented legal challenges look likely to escalate with the decision of the federal grand jury. we now know that trump's legal team met with the special counsel's office today. if an indictment happens, it could mean the collision course between trump's hectic legal and political calendar for 2024 is about to get even more complicated. trump himself says it will be, quote, the trial of the century, even predicting he'll have fun on the stand. and once again today, he's fund-raising off the potential third indictment writing in a new email, in just a few days' time, we have the opportunity to

cement this moment in the history books as the moment the american people proved they would never bend the knee to the left's tin pot dictatorship. i want to bring in nbc justice reporter ryan reilly who is outside the u.s. district courthouse. msnbc political analyst, brendan buck is with me as well as msnbc legal analyst lisa rubin. ryan, all the action happening inside that courthouse behind you. what do we know at this hour? >> reporter: you know, we know that the grand jury is meeting and we know that that critical meeting took place between the special counsel's office and donald trump's lawyers. what was interesting just a few moments ago i spotted some officers from the metropolitan police department here in d.c. along with park police and members of the u.s. marshal service who oversee security at the courthouse all meeting just outside the courthouse, and then they all proceeded to go inside the courthouse. so it would appear as though they were preparing for some

potential big event coming up here. we don't know, obviously, you know, we're still awaiting that indictment. we don't know for sure when that will happen, but if that indictment does take place there's going to need to be an arraignment and security measures are going to have to be stepped up. that's something, we've seen that sort of bubbling definitely in the past few weeks, i think, where the security measures were sort of being implemented and some meetings taking place, so it's definitely something they need to prepare for is securing this building when potentially the former president of the united states has to show up here. in recent weeks they've been handing out media passes to news organizations, which is something that they had not done before, and i think, you know, based on the number of cameras that are just beside me here at the courthouse, we're really expecting a lot more attention to be focused on this coming up in the weeks ahead and months to come. >> lisa, tea leaves can be difficult to read, but it does seem like we're getting data points towards an educated guess, right? you've got both the meeting that

we now know happened today. you have the police, the park police, the marshals all getting together. does it say to you that a decision on an indictment is imminent? >> it does, chris, and obviously we have the grand jury in the building today too. we haven't seen, however, a witness go in before that grand jury, and so that all suggests that we are definitely barrelling towards something like a decision as soon as today on an indictment. i also think the special counsel's office learned from their experience in miami. where you have a gulf of information, donald trump will fill it, and they are not eager to leave a lot of time between, for example, the last meeting between trump's counsel and the special counsel's office and the unsealing or unveiling of an indictment, that is room that donald trump will use to his advantage to communicate to his supporters and followers at a time when the special counsel's office knows that they can't say anything, they're eager not to have that imbalance at the same

time. >> so if there is an indictment, what are the special counsel's options for unveiling it? >> the special counsel can either seal or unseal the indictment. the way that the presentation of an indictment works in d.c. federal court is the doors have to be open, which means they can take steps to try to avoid detection, but at the very least, the doors to the courthouse have to remain open. the practice there as others have said on our air is to announce the initials of a defendant, not their actual name, and then after that, either the indictment is sealed or if it's unsealed, it goes straight to the clerk's office and a press release from the department of justice can be forthcoming as soon as minutes thereafter. >> in the classified do you means case, there were three days from the time that they got a letter saying you're a target of an indictment, but until the announcement. it's been 11 days now, do you make anything of that? >> in the classified documents case, it was actually longer. the target letter came on may 19th. the meeting between trump's counsel and the special

counsel's office was on june 5th. we then had the indictment come down on the 8th. it was unsealed on the 9th. i think this time line will move in a more expeditious way for the reasons i just stated. this is a special counsel's office that's learned from their last experience where there's a gulf of information, donald trump and donald trump alone will fill it. they're not eager to repeat that. >> donald trump's lawyers have been preparing for an indictment, but how does his political team prepare beyond doing what they're doing? obviously raising money, half of which has been going to pay legal bills. >> yeah, what they're going to do now builds on what they've already been doing for months and years really, which is building the case that people are out to get them. this is all the deep state and fbi and doj are corrupt and coming after them. so a lot of groundwork has been laid here. what donald trump does here is relatively predictable. we know what he's going to say, he's already saying it. what we need to be looking out for is what do the other people

in this race say about this. we've had two indictments come out, and both times the rest of the field sort of shrugged at it or made excuses for donald trump, ran interference for him. this is a third opportunity to right that wrong. i mean, i think they've missed the ball twice now. here's their third chance. this is a much bigger opportunity. what happened in manhattan has, i think, been criticized by a lot of people as maybe being overreaching by the d.a. there. i think the documents case is important, but potentially less jarring to the public. january 6th was one of the most shameful days in american history, and if we are to relive that and go back through what he did on those days and leading up to it, i think there's much more political liability for donald trump there, an opportunity for the people running against him to attack him on it and remind people that he tried to run over the constitution. he tried to break down our very form of government, and this is a reckless person who can't be trusted and certainly should not

be reelected. i'm very curious to see if anybody has learned their lesson because obviously as the first two indictments came down, they did very little to attack him on it, and he only got stronger. i think he is a bit insulated now because of that. this may be their last good chance to really take him down a bit if this does come down. >> if there is, lisa, a larger political liability, you know, there, is there a larger legal liability as well? i'm not talking about what any charges might mean in terms of punishment, in terms of perhaps time behind bars. i'm talking about what brendan referred to, for some people this is about a bunch of papers, very different from what they saw play out on television on january 6th, and everything that surrounded it, the testimony, for example, of workers and what it was like to count some of those votes and the phone calls, we heard all of that. >> right. and as much impact as the january 6th hearings had on the american public, you can expect this indictment to have more of

an impact. why? because special counsel jack smith and his team have access to more information than a congressional committee could have ever had. a grand jury subpoena is not one you can mess with. therefore there have been people who have complied with that subpoena sometimes on court orders like mark meadows, dan scavino, john mcentee, people who weren't as cooperative or cooperative at all with the january 6th committee. i'm expecting to see in this indictment if it comes down descriptions of conversations and events that haven't been made public yet because the special counsel's office has tools at their disposal congress just didn't have in doing their excavation of what happened on that day and the weeks leading up to, chris. >> brendan, i want to play something that one of donald trump's lawyers had to say. let's take a listen. >> the first thing we would ask for is let's have cameras in the courtroom so all americans can

see what's happening in our criminal justice system. and i would hope the department of justice would join in that effort so that we take the curtain away and all americans get to see what's happening. this is unprecedented to threaten a president. >> you know, as i was listening to that it occurred to me brendan that i wonder if that would impact the decision donald trump would make about whether or not to take the stand. he believes he knows better than anybody how to play to an audience. he said he thought it would be fun. he indicated he would take the stand. what do you think about the possibility of if this does indeed go to air, what that means for donald trump and whether or not he would decide to try to take the stand in his own defense. >> gosh, i can't imagine that would be good for trump. i mean, as we were discussing, the testimony and the story telling that took place in the january 6th hearings i think were some of the most damaging hours and weeks of donald

trump's political career. to relive that, the facts that we know, already know are devastating about what donald trump did leading up to and on that day, and to have that replayed again in such a high profile way, i can't imagine would do anything other than rally those really die hard voters of his. and that's fine. there are going to be -- we should be clear. there are going to be a lot of republicans who rally around, there's no doubt about that. the question is are there oh voters even in the republican primary who will see this a little differently who recognize january 6th for what it was. i think there's a lot of republicans who recognize january 6th for what it was. this is one of the confounding things about the politics surf surrounding this. you're not going to win over the trump die hards. there are a lot of people who vote in the republican primaries who aren't trump die hards. i think having those people confronted once again with these

devastating facts would be pretty damaging for donald trump. even if he does survive and win the nomination, would really damage him in a general election. >> so i'm seeing that is there a new post by donald trump on truth social, let me read it for you. my attorneys had a productive meeting with the doj this morning explaining in detail that i did nothing wrong. was advised by many lawyers and that an indictment of me would only further destroy our country, no indication if notice was given during the meeting. do not trust fake news on anything. lisa, as a legal statement, donald trump's reporting of what happened in the meeting, while it's the firsthand that we may have, what do you make of it? >> well, it's really interesting, one of the things that he said in that post is that he relied on lawyers and that his current lawyers expressed that to the department of justice and special counsel's office. that may be a hint that one of donald trump's defenses here is what we call the advice of

counsel defense. in order to say that you relied on counsel as a defense to criminal activity, you have to show what that advice was. it entails waiving the attorney/client privilege. donald trump has already waived attorney/client privilege in rudy giuliani's d.c. bar disciplinary hearing. he also recently waived some privilege with respect to bernard kerik's production of defamation. all of that could be a signal that donald trump's defense here is i was surrounded by lawyers who gave me advice and i just did what they told me to do. >> on a political front, brendan, it would only further destroy our country. it's something that we have heard from the president before that the legal process playing itself out is, in fact, more of a threat it would sound like in his way of thinking than what actually happened, what unfolded in terms of both january 6th itself and trying to overturn the 2020 election.

>> yeah, and he's tried to rile up people in advance of some of these indictments previously. i think some of those efforts ended up being something of a dud, but this argument that my lawyers made me do it, you know, however successful that is as a legal tactic, what's disappointing is you also have heard something like that from mike pence, for example, who has made the argument that he was just following legal advice. and so if that is the route that we take, you know, the talking points are ready to go on that one and i just don't know that it's terribly convincing. yeah, so i'm just curious to see what happens here, whether some of these people see that this is in a new light the third time around. >> didn't do anything, the implication is that his lawyers didn't advise. some lawyers may take issue with that. we will have to wait and see. ryan reilly and brendan buck, thank you, lisa rubin, you are going to be staying with me. in another case with political implications, hunter biden is in legal limbo, what to

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around the country, and generally it's done in cooperation with local officials as they work together to try to reform policing in these various jurisdictions and look at things like traffic stops and lethal force and nonlethal force and all those kind of things. and it takes weeks and weeks and months of scrutiny. they go through documents, they interview members of the force, and then eventually often these result in consent decrees where the department agrees to stop certain practices that are deemed harmful of violative of people's civil rights. this is the way that the justice department is trying to keep tabs on policing in the united states and ensure that people's civil rights are not being violated. >> i think it's worthwhile for just 60 seconds to remind people who tyre nichols is, about the police stop that led to his death. i think it was three days after the initial confrontation. >> yeah, that was a horrific incident that many people saw on video where he was fleeing from

the police and officers viciously attacked him and have now been charged with second degree murder and other charges in that case causing his death, and they have been fired from the force, five of those officers, and so that's the criminal case. this is the civil pattern and practice investigation. >> nbc's ken dilanian, thank you for that. today hunter biden in legal limbo of a the courtroom chaos that ended with his legal team and prosecutors under orders from the judge to come up with a new agreement. it was a shocking turn of events yesterday, the plea deal, the one keeping the president's son out of jail, unraveled leaving questions involving taxes, guns, and politicization of the process. so what's the time line for a new deal if one can be reached, and how is the president responding? back with me msnbc legal analyst lisa rubin. also with me, nbc's tom winter who has the latest on the deal. so tom, where are we right now with all this? >> well, i think both sides are

going to take a little bit of time to take stock. i think they want to get to a point if they can agree on specific language that's going to satisfy the judge here, and going to satisfy what they think she will allow, what she'll sign off on and the right proceedings specifically to move forward under: i suspect that that will take some time. i don't think that that's something that gets solved today, for instance, and then i think they'll have to take a look at were there any sort of things they left out? were there any sort of things they want to solidify? the idea of the ongoing investigation was not necessarily new. that had been included in press release statements. the example of a fara charge was interesting because i would point out off the top of my head and going off of memory and what's included in the statement of facts read in court yesterday. >> can we just tell people what fara is?

that's the foreign registration act. >> i'll make a hypothetical, the government in germany said hey, tom, if you want to leave nbc we'd love to pay you to advance our causes washington, d.c., and new york, and we'll pay you x amount of money. i would have to file on the justice department to say i'm working on behalf of the german government. folks are wondering if hunter biden working with a private gas company in ukraine or working with various chinese firms would have to file some sort of fara. i'm not sure if that trips up that wire. looking at the time line and what we saw yesterday, a lot of his businesses were in the 2018 period or before that. there's a five-year statute of limitations so how much of that actually could be included in any sort of ongoing investigation and alleged ongoing investigation that we haven't heard anything about. and as nbc news reported this spring, the fbi concluded their investigation.

they were frustrated as to whether or not there was going to be a decision made on this case and when it was going to happen. so it's not clear to me at all that there are overt steps being taken. we continue to report on this, continue to see who may have been interviewed, who may have received a subpoena, but i don't have any information right now that would guide any talk as far as any sort of ongoing investigation. and clearly the issues, the icebergs, legal icebergs in front of hunter biden were the issue of his taxes and was this issue of the guns and drugs associated with it. both of those are cured in the plea agreement, so assuming that agreement stands, those are things presumably in the years 2014 to 2019 he opportunity have -- doesn't have to worry about anymore. >> if i had seen what happened yesterday on a law and order, i would think it was ridiculous because it just sounded so crazy and so chaotic. how far apart are they, and do you think the two sides can come

together and come to an agreement that the judge would sign off on? >> i actually don't think the two sides themselves are that far apart. there was a kerfuffle during the hearing about the scope of hunter biden's immunity, but ultimately hunter biden's lawyers came back and said, you know what, having had a chance to confer with the government, we understand that that immunity only extends to tax and guns charges between 2014 and 2019. where the holdup is now is really the judge. the judge is essentially saying you have put me in the position where if hunter violates his pretrial diversion agreement, for example, if he uses drugs in the next two years, i am the one who decides if he has violated that agreement before the department of justice can bring charges. that's not a position that i want to be in, particularly when that pretrial diversion agreement is what you say is a private contract between the two of you that i have no say in approving or rejecting. in other words, you've taken me out of the decision-making as to

whether or not that's an approvable agreement, but you want to insert me in it at a later point in time to protect your client from the whims of a department of justice that may be controlled by republicans later on. hunter's lawyers acknowledged that was the sensitivity. i understand that, but it still doesn't address my constitutional concerns. i think the parties will come back together, draft around that and come up with a solution that's happy for both of them and for the court as well. >> how was there not clarity between the two sides? was it the lawyers? was it the judge? is there any sort of unanimity of opinion among legal minds that they should have drafted something that was much more clear? that there maybe is a little politics involved here, both, neither? >> yes, i think they tried to do something as the judge said in the transcript. it wasn't straightforward, it was creative. i'm going to applaud your creativity she said. they put the judge in an uncomfortable position and both sides should have anticipated

that was going to be a place a federal judge would not want to be. the judge yesterday was a trump nominee approved and supported by both delaware senators. she did not show an indication yesterday that she is on hunter biden's per se, yet that's the accusation facing david weiss, whose circumstances of nomination are exactly the same. >> and those are two democratic senators and i would point out we looked at campaign contributions, she has donated to the likes of hillary clinton, john mccain, mitt romney. this is not somebody who is donating all of her salary to the freedom caucus, for instance, so i think the questions yesterday and i think lisa as well touched on them are things that might prompt the judge to have some concerns. she did note and prosecutors noted there's no precedent for it. so i think ultimately there's a deal that's done here and that this is something that neither side really necessarily needs to take to trial, so they'll probably come up with some conclusion. we'll be back in wilmington soon

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the beginning of a drive to the sea of usav which would split the russian ar my in two. a surprise decision from president biden ordering the u.s. to share evidence of russian war crimes to the international criminal court. that goes against long-standing u.s. policy and the pentagon's recommendation. nbc's ali arouzi is following those stories for us, we also have retired four-star general barry mccaffrey. what's the latest we know from the battlefield? >> hey, chris, from what we're seeing on the ground from the reports we're getting, ukraine seems to have launched a new thrust in its counteroffensive. even the russian defense ministry says its forces fended off a massive assault on the 26th of june by three mechanized battalions. the push for the new offensive seems to be in western zaporizhzhia according to the russians. both russia and ukraine have seen bakhmut as a key prize on the eastern front, since losing

the city to russian forces in early may, ukraine has embarked on a flanking maneuver to surround it from the north and south. if they're successful in surrounding bakhmut, that may be able to give them a deeper push into donetsk and luhansk region. ukrainian forces say they've advanced more than half a mile towards the end of july and were making progress. these are the two main objectives of the southern counteroffensive. and of course, chris, thanks to all the western supplies, ukraine has put up a really valiant fight, but so far those western supply tanks and armored vehicles haven't really been able to tip the balance very decisively into ukraine's favor, and it's important to listen to what the ukrainian generals are saying. they're warning not to underestimate the russians and that they're struggling to overcome multilayered mine fields and very heavily fortified defensive lines that

the russians have laid to stop the ukrainians from making some advances. and that's why they keep calling for fighter jets and more long-range missiles. chris. >> so general, help us understand from your perspective, how this new offensive fits into the overall military strategy by ukraine. >> that was a good update we just received. the center of gravity of the struggle right now is the attack that split the russian army in two to get to the sea of azov, to prevent the forces struggling farther up this 930 mile front in which we're seeing these two warring factionfactions. i don't see it going very well. it concerns me. the ukrainians, these are tank mechanized forces, bradley fighting vehicles, they are exquisite fighting machines.

they're pretty resistant to mine warfare, but they only work when you have a sudden violent surprise attack. you move at night and covered by smoke, you have coordinated combined armed teams. all of that's very difficult to achieve, and the russians have mined this with really devilishly clever defenses dug in. in addition, there are thousands of drones overhead, lethal reconnaissance electronic warfare. you can't achieve surprise. the tanks aren't going to be terribly good at trench fighting so i'm concerned about that. the second thing we're concerned about is the russians are pounding ukrainian cities, particularly the port in the south where they've destroyed more than 60,000 tons of grain already. so they're using food as a weapon of war.

and millions face potential starvation, particularly in africa. and then finally, putin's running out of manpower. this war has gone stale on the russians. their political pariahs are economically getting hammered. he just extended the mobilization call up eligibility from age 27 to 30, and he told his reservists you're now -- if you're an officer you're eligible for call up until age 60. the war is going bad for putin, and he's facing political opposition at home. >> well, the u.s. never became a member of the international criminal court to touch on the other big story today, and argues it's not under its jurisdiction. what to you make of president biden choosing to share intel on russian war crimes with the hague, which is against, we're told, the express wishes of the pentagon. >> well, we adamantly and correctly oppose being a

signatory to that agreement. we knew it would work against us. we would place our company commanders at risk. we knew it'd be a tool of propaganda. now, however, having said that, the egregious, cruel behavior has to be countered. personally i think president biden made a good call, do this on a transactional pragmatic basis and let's get on with holding these criminals accountable. and by the way, this isn't just putin and his generals. this is the battalion level, the abhorrent behavior of the russian armed forces in torturing, rape, looting, abuse of civilians has been just disgusting. >> general barry mccaffrey, ali arouzi, thank you both very much. and coming up, a near miss thousands of feet in the air, what the faa is now saying about

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another scary report of a close call when two planes nearly collided in flight, an allegiant plane carrying 175 people had to shoot up into the air to avoid another aircraft at the same altitude. the sun sentinel newspaper reports that the sudden climb

drove some on board to tears. one woman describing it as the most terrifying thing she has experienced. i want to bring in nbc's tom costello. what exactly do we know about what happened, and how does this happen? >> we've confirmed the details with the faa. sunday afternoon this flight allegiant air 485 was leaving fort lauderdale headed for lexington, kentucky, and the controllers told it to climb to 23,000 feet and then turn east. however, there was another plane at 23,000 feet, a business jet headed north and so this -- these two planes were literally on an intersecting path. at the very last minute, both planes tcas systems went off. those are the automated cockpit warning systems. they told the allegiant plane climb, climb, they told the private business jet descend. the bottom line is when pilots

get that warning, no questions asked, you don't think about it, you do it now because you are in imminent danger of a collision. they did. the allegiant plane went up and the other plane went down and they missed each other. this was a very close call, apparently according to the faa it was an air traffic controller who mistakenly put them both at the same altitude and on intersecting paths. >> tom costello, scary stuff, thank you for that. right now nearly half the country is boiling under extreme heat alerts as the temperatures continue to climb leading scientists say the globe is shattering records as we see more jaw dropping consequence os of this heat wave. maggie vespa spoke to farmer who was devastated after scorching conditions set hay on fire in his barn and burned it down. >> spontaneous combustion is related to moisture and heat. if i had to put a monetary value on the contents and the structure i would say half a

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today in michigan, new evidence was presented in the case of 17-year-old ethan crumbley who pleaded guilty to murdering four of his classmates in the oxford high school shooting. court documents revealing he wrote about his plans in a journal detailing how he would target his victims and make himself famous. a judge will now decide if crumbley who was 15 years old at the time of the murders can be sentenced to life in prison or whether he should have the chance at parole. nbc's antonia hylton has been following this for us. antonia, what can you tell us about what happened at today's hearing? >> it's still ongoing. there's been a break for lunch today, but it has been an incredibly heartbreaking day where we've seen exhibit after exhibit and a law enforcement officer who was on the scene that day walking people through everything that they saw on the scene, the disturbing feeling and emotion of coming into the chaos of the school, but also all of the discovery leading up to it. you mentioned journal entries

that describe his thought process, the planning that went into this, instagram photos posted by his mother of the gun that ended up being used in this. and clear indications that people were aware that he had mental health, severe mental health challenges leading up to this. and so the central question right now is not did he or did he not do it. that's a settled matter. he has already pled guilty to murder and terrorism charges. the question is that ethical question really of what do you do when a minor commits a heinous crime, in this case killing four people, injuring seven, and then traumatizing many, many others in this community in michigan. do you want them behind bars for the rest of their lives or does the state believe there's a chance at rehabilitation, that this person could decades from now come back around, get healthy again and be reintegrated into society. what the prosecution is arguing is that they're building this case of all the sort of premeditated elements of this to give you a sense of his mind-set in arguing that he should be

behind bars until the end, but his defense team, they're arguing that there may be room here, that there should be a door left open that someone like this can still change. >> so young and as you said, had mental health problems. his parents were also charged. what do we know about the status of that case? >> that's right, and for anyone who because it happened back in 2021, ethan crumbley's parents ended up at the center of this investigation because of their own actions. not only did they purchase the gun for him that he used that day in the shooting, but then they tried to evade authorities. they got burner phones, they emptied their own son's bank account and tried to hide. and so they are facing involuntary manslaughter charges. we heard the prosecutor talk this morning about the fact that the questions today about ethan crumbley and whether or not he will spend the rest of his life in prison need to be separate from the discussion of the parents while she sees the crimes as connected, they are really different. one person pulled the trigger

here, planned the massacre. but these parents, she was arguing, were negligent in the treatment of their child and there is a whole piece of the family story that is coming out in these exhibits as well. you see ethan at times reaching out to his parents, letting them know that he wasn't feeling well or having strange thoughts. them not responding at times. and you get a sense here that you are already getting an early look at what is going to happen when the parents go to trial and prosecution will fully layout their argument against them as well. >> thank you so much, appreciate it. and now to florida where five employees of the palm beach county school district are facing criminal charges accused of failing to report the alleged sexual assault of a 15-year-old girl by another teenager. the principal of palm beach central high school along with two assistant principles, teacher and former counselor, all arrested monday following an investigation into the aftermath of the 2021 assault charging documents reveal that school

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so to say the least, it was a dramatic rematch between the u.s. and the netherlands at the women's world cup. it ended in a 1-1 tie after revenge goal. and molly has the highlights for us. >> reporter: yeah, still a party here in wellington even though the u.s. didn't quite get the

results they wanted 1-1 against the netherlands. of course they knew this would be a tough match. it was a really physical match. only goal came from the captain in the 62nd match. a header. i had a chance to speak with her right after she came off the field. take a quick listen. >> we were fighting for the ball, running a lot. and the moment wasn't going in our favor. so halftime we made a few switches. momentum came and the opportunity cass with that. >> reporter: and certainly a lot of room still for improvement. but i'll show you around, we are in one of the fan zones. every host city has one. and everywhere we go, we find american fans. guys, what did you think much netherlands game? >> it was awesome. the clutch goal was it and then she came running over to our side. >> and so this is rene, cassidy

and nicole. sisters and mother. and so the momentum -- being in the stadium, the momentum really picked up. >> it really did. and after the goal, it was just amazing. >> yeah, we actually met at a place where there were thousands of american fans. >> and what is the vibe being here, what is it like being so far away from home? >> so far away from home, but everyone comes together. it is really nice to see even the support from the other fans and interacting with the other fans. but when you come, definitely bucket list item to see the goal happen in front of you. >> and so 1-1 not the result we were looking for, but we still believe? >> absolutely. >> reporter: and so still group play so no knockouts jet. a lot fend on the scores of the next games. u.s. will be against potugal

next week. for now we'll have fun with the u.s. fans. >> and maybe not the result they wanted, but it felt like a win. molly hunter, thank you for that. and we have a lot to cover in our second hour of chris jansing reports. let's get right to it. at this hour, breaking news, former president trump's lawyers meeting with the special counsel's office today on the same day that the grand jury gaer gathers in d.c. plus the emotional flee from the family of an american soldier who bolted to north korea. why travis king's family says there is more to his story than anyone can imagine, that from our exclusive interview. and also ahead from gubernatorial candidate to kikts convicted right orbiter,