tv Yasmin Vossoughian Reports MSNBC July 29, 2023 12:00pm-1:00pm PDT
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hour starts right now. >> welcome back, i'm zain -- in for yasmin vossoughian. former president donald trump to set the speaker just a matter of hours and pennsylvania, as he uses the campaign trail to answer new charges filed against him in the classified documents case. that is indictment low this royal evidence on orders from a person referred to as the, we'll have more on that ahead. >> meanwhile, the candidates hoping to take the presidential nomination from trump, largely silent at a key iowa forum, except for one. will hurd, who found out quickly how republican voters can feel about that. >> the truth is hard but if we elect donald trump, were willingly leave giving joe biden four more years in the white house and america can't handle that.
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>> also this hour, ron desantis at war with some fellow republicans who are taking aim at the florida governor over his support of teaching guidelines that suggest enslaved people benefited from slavery. all that, plus a woman who faked a story about going missing is now being charged for false report by officials, you say they wish they could have gone further. in a global heat wave from soaring temperatures here at home, to heat fueled wildfires overseas, will bring you the latest on the dangerous situation around the world. lebron james posts new video of his son, brawny, just days after he went into cardiac arrest. what bronny's health crisis can teach parents of other young athletes, especially young men of color, that's all coming up next. we're gonna begin with former president trump's rally in pennsylvania, which is set to start in just a few hours, he'll be hearing even more baggage this time, with those for us charges from the doj on the classified documents case. let's go right to it with embassies melissa par.
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who's in erie, pennsylvania. for us. we have this new charges, what are we hearing from the former president trump? and what about both his rivals and supporters? >> yeah, so, last night really in illustrates the tricky minefield that gop rivals and contenders are facing right now. this is the iowa republican dinner, this was last night, just a day after these new charges dropped. the former president, as you about, here was both defiant and deflected. listen for yourself. >> they want to weaponize the irs, just like they weaponize the justice department and the fbi. by the way, if i weren't running, i would have nobody coming after me. if i was losing by a lot, i would have nobody coming after me. they wouldn't be coming after me. >> right after that, and throughout his time on stage, he was met with applause. you see all 13 of those candidates that took to the stage at various points last night. including some of them, florida
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governor ron desantis, south carolina senator tim scott, former vice president mike pence. vivek ramaswamy, you have a lot of people who took to the stage, and yet, very few of them mentioned anything about these indictments or these new charges that just dropped a day before this dinner. you have the former arkansas governor, a sign hutchinson, briefly mentioned pending criminal charges, saying the gop needs to head in a new direction. really, it was the former texas congressman, we heard from the former texas congressman, will hurd, who really took it a couple steps further. and was met with boos as he did, saying the only reason the former president is running again is to escape criminal charges. >> donald trump is running to stay out of prison. and if we elect, i know, i know, i know. >> so, probably the most
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interesting points here to point out to you, the boost he was met with. this is the only person of the night to really take on the former president had on. and to mention him by name. and to say that a vote for trump is to usher in the democrats for 2024 when. and you saw what he was met with. he was not a warm welcome when he said that. so, these candidates here are on the screen, having to navigate how to not only stand out, but not marginalize what is the lead contenders voting base right now. the people who are supporting him. many of, them you're seeing behind me, in erie, pennsylvania, he has his rally. second public appearance since those new charges dropped. people here have been waiting since early this morning, they waited through rainstorms. obviously, neither the weather nor new charges or indictments can swing them away from supporting the former president. so, perhaps we got a preview, zinhle of what's to come
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tonight, utter defiance and deflection. >> we know you'll stay on this one. melissa par on the ground for us, thank you so much. joining me now is deadline legal blog writer, jordan reuben. jordan, i read a lot of you are, it's a busy week for you. no wonder what is your latest articles, it's not unusual for prosecutors to bring superseding indictments to add charges, and or defendants to existing indictments. that's an important context. could we see even more additions? and what were some of your biggest takeaways here? >> so, we could see more additions. i'd be a little surprised if we did. only because it's a little late in the day, so to speak. i imagine that jack smith does not want to make this case more complicated than he has to. at the same time, the initial indictment, if you remember, was not a document that seem to need much, if any work. here we have the superseding indictment that's now even stronger. we'll have to see whether there are more, in terms of the take away, that's a segue into.
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it really, what we have as a stronger version of what we already had. this new indictment paints an even more damning picture of the alleged retention of classified documents. and really, the broad scheme to cover that up. as laid out in the indictment. it's gone from bad to worse for trump in terms of the substance of the charges. >> but it's not just trump. it also impacts the judge, right? you wrote about how these new charges could actually pose a timing test for judge aileen cannon. i want to play what manhattan d.a., alvin bragg, said during a radio interview friday, and then get your thoughts on the other side. >> i heard you say the promo, there may be other cases coming. if and when that happens, we'll see what happens to the schedule. ultimately, the judges set the trial schedule. i will say that, as a federal prosecutor, as a state prosecutor, i have had times where you're doing schedule coordination. >> with all that said, what do
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you make of what he said? how could these various trump trial dates actually be impacted? >> sure, he's being a good sport, a former state prosecutor, in the office that bragg leads now. it's not unusual to have multiple cases going on involving the same defendant, whether you initially have a case in the manhattan state court, then another one on the street with the feds in sdny. other federal jurisdictions, other states, we have a typical situation that's just being applied again to an atypical defendant. so, if you're jack smith, you like to hear that from brag, knowing that he's not going to really put up any fight. i don't know what good it would do if he did. so, i think it's reassuring to alvin bragg's colleagues, that he has smith and likely soon to be joined by fani willis, we think. so, really, he's making plain, he's not going to necessarily make a big fuss about this, and maybe the march date we have the manhattan case may not
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actually be when it goes forward. although, if you look at the classified documents case, that's possibly a factor that judge aileen cannon took into account, in setting the may day, that's there currently. i don't know, for example, we're gonna think the classified documents case is now for some reason gonna happened sooner than it was. if anything, i think now with the superseding indictment, it's a question of if it actually goes forward as currently scheduled. >> of course, all in the shadow of the 2024 presidential race. jordan reuben, thank you very much. >> coming up in just 60 seconds, the alabama woman who claims she was kidnapped, then later admitted it was all made up, has not been charged. a look at how her story quickly unraveled, and the impact it has, or could have, on the numerous black indigenous and other people of color, who actually go missing every single day. single day. try boost® high protein with 20 grams of protein for muscle health versus 16 grams in ensure® high protein. boost® high protein. now available in cinnabon® bakery-inspired flavor.
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abducted, has now been charged with two misdemeanors. carly russell was released on bond, after surrendering to authorities just yesterday. and d.c.'s priscilla thompson has all the details, priscilla, let's start with the alabama 30s. they seemed frustrated that they could not charge russell with more serious crimes. what do we know? >> yeah, absolutely, zinhle, they were able to charge her, as you mentioned, with those two missing false reporting to law enforcement authorities. and false reporting an incident. each of those carries about a year in prison. and a 6000 dollar fine. authorities said, that would as far as the law would allow them to go, in terms of charges. that ultimately, they wanted to send a message that this was not a victimless crime. this has opened wounds for the families of real victims. also, it has spent countless law enforcement resources. i want to play some of what the attorney general had to say. >> there are significant hours spent, resources expended, as a
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result of this investigation. not only that, the many men and women who were civilians who put those yellow vests on a hot afternoon and evening, looking for someone they thought was abducted. trying to be of assistance. we intend to fully prosecute this case, and look forward to working with the police department moving forward. >> and so, you heard them there, taking these misdemeanor charges very seriously. i spoke with carly russell's parents in the days after she came back, they were adamant, there was a kidnapper out there they really believed their daughter. what we have seen this week, carly russell has an attorney, that tierney came out and issued a statement from her, saying it was all a hoax. there was no child on the interstate, that her whole disappearance which led to that days long search, was a hoax. now, the attorney is saying, well these are misdemeanor charges, carly russell is taking these charges very seriously. as she awaits her day in court.
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zinhle? >> priscilla, i have to ask you, you mentioned it, you've been a heart of this story. you had that exclusive interview with the parents. what do you make of all of this, especially given that we know how many missing black and indigenous people of color don't get this kind of media coverage? >> right. it's something that a lot of people are talking about online. on one hand, there is this fear that because this turnout to be a hoax, it may prevent people of color from getting this type of attention in the future. we know that 40% of the people who go missing in this country are people of color. black, latino, indigenous, asian, they don't often get the same amount of media attention as their white counterparts. you're also hearing people say, this should send a message, this should be the standard for anyone that goes missing. we know how important this media coverage is. and potentially, bringing people home, or getting those family to the closure that they need. zinhle? >> really important point. they should be the standard, every life matters, priscilla
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thompson, thank you very much. still ahead, playing the waiting game. why special counsel jack smith has yet to bring an indictment against former president trump. over election interference. plus, congresswoman jasmine crockett joins me to talk about the swath of republicans now criticizing florida governor ron desantis over his school standards on teaching about slavery. and the frantic 9-1-1 call after lebron james's 18-year-old son suffered a sudden cardiac arrest during a workout. how he's doing now, and the risk for other young athletes, that's all coming up. >> listen. get the ambulance here. now >> is their doctor and see what, them or registered nurse? >> no, there's no doctor. >> help is already him on the way. like my morning ride, will it help lower my glucose? with the freestyle libre 2 system, you can know where your glucose level is and where it's headed without fingersticks. know what activities work for you.
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updated charges? and what is the most significant thing that sticks out to you? >> well, really there's two significant things. one, this superseding indictment shows an even more extensive effort to cover up, or to obstruct, the mishandling of classified documents in national defense information, by actually involving employees, mr. trump involving employees of mar-a-lago, and his own personal employees in an effort to destroy surveillance videos tapes that we know, from even the first indictment, were very revealing about the movement of boxes around mar-a-lago. and specifically, that many, many boxes of classified documents had been moved out of a storage room, allegedly, for mr. trump's review. and many fewer boxes had been moved back into that storage room. so, the cover-up is very, very significant, even more significant than the initial indictment. but the second very important thing, the addition of a 32nd
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count of mishandling classified documents. this count relates specifically to the document about military activity involving the country of iran, which is the document that this new indictment says was the one that mr. trump flashed around when he was up at bedminster in july of 2021, talking about it to two people who were working on an autobiography for mark meadows. in other words, two people have no authority to seek classified information. mr. trump acknowledge at the time that this was classified. this was secret. he couldn't show it to them. he has then since denied there was any such document. now, in this indictment, we see there is a document. >> of course. that conversation was on that tape that we played earlier. i wonder, could these new charges impact the may 2024 trial date? of course, this is consequential, not just because it's a former president, but also now to 2024 presidential candidate. >> yeah, they certainly could. the addition of mr. de oliveira,
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himself, he's only charged with these obstruction offenses. he will have his own attorney, he will have motions that could delay things, that could cause him to ask for an extension of time. he should not be that involved in the classified information procedures hearings. because of the crimes he's alleged to have committed to actually involve the substantive classified information. nevertheless, you add additional charges, you add an additional defendant, that's a lot of reason that the parties could go to the court, and ask for a delay of the trial. >> turning now to the special counsel's probe of election interference, lawyers for trump met on thursday at the office, and prosecutors told trump lawyers that morning, to expect an indictment, that did not happen. it's really been a waiting game, back and forth, now the d.c. grand jury is expected to meet again on tuesday. why do you think we still haven't gotten that indictment? >> well, i think maybe two things are going on. as you indicated, trump's attorneys met with jack smith,
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in the morning of thursday, while the same day that the grand jury was meeting in met the entire day. they may be trying to appeal jack smith's response to them, or to the journey attorney general, merrick garland. as you know, jack smith is a special counsel. under the special counsel regulations, he makes decisions, but they can be vetoed by the attorney general, if they are so unwarranted or unjustified that the attorney general thinks that those decisions should be vetoed. it could happen that they giving some time for that type of appeal. it appears the grand jury worked a full day until approximately 4:30, and maybe didn't finish their work. i suspect that what was happening that day, jack smith's team was presenting their closing arguments. they were summarizing the evidence, and instructing the grand jury about what evidence, which elements of the crimes they want the grand jury to vote. on that vote maybe is what's gonna happen on tuesday. >> all right, mary mccord, appreciate your insights.
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thank you very much. after the break, no matter where you are today, chances are, it is hot. too hot. from the more hundred million under heat alerts in the u.s., european countries badly warning fires, we have a live report on when things might actually cool off. a bumbling bank robber gets canned, literally. >> on the ground. >> how that burglar got caught in the act, in a recycling bin. that's coming up next. g up n (vo) verizon small business days are coming. from august 7th to the 13th. now is the time to partner with our experts. get started today with verizon business. it's your business. it's your verizon. (vo) consumer reports evaluates vehicles for car shoppers in... ...reliability, safety, owner satisfaction, and road-test evaluations... and the results are in. subaru is the 2023 best mainstream automotive brand,
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i'm zinhle essamuah were watching the severe heat blasting more than 118 million americans this afternoon. and there are encouraging signs, the heat crisis getting better overseas. we have coverage on both sides of the pond, and d.c.'s matt bradley is in london for. us we're gonna begin with nbc's -- in miami. you're on the beach, what are they telling you they're? >> zinhle, people on the beach are saying it's harder than usual. in the usual miami summer. we have been talking about how it's a few degrees, look you could, say fresher than what we've experienced this past month. temperatures have been in the 90s today. the heat index also in the upper 90s. the water you see behind me is, of course, hotter than usual for a miami summer. this week, we had the news the water here in south florida reached 100 degrees.
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that was down in the keys, south of where we're at. just a few minutes ago, a family next to us, where one of the boys went into the water, i could hear him yell at his mom, the water is so hot. i also went and touch the water, the best description, it's kind of like a bathtub, when you run the water and it's warm enough for you to get in, not burning, still pretty warm. that's what it feels like. which is hotter than usual here in miami. of course, we do have a heat wave that is slamming the rest of the country. about 117 million people under some type of heat alert, 30 states, the northeast, the mid-atlantic getting the worst of that. it's important to keep in mind, the dangers that come from being exposed to that heat. earlier, i had a conversation with a tourist from brazil, who told me what it was like being in miami this week. >> here, i don't know what happens. you really feel the sun hitting your skin. i don't know. i don't know if it's where we are on the earth or something, but it's really hot. when we go outside, oh my god,
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it's so hot. we've been like, going inside the car, turning on the ac. oh, we're gonna stay here for a while. >> zinhle, for many of, us it's been difficult to understand why it feels that way. and the temperatures this summer have been a few degrees hotter than what we're used to. i spoke to an expert today, asked him, why is it that every degree feels so much worse when we're in the 90s or the hundreds. specifically, here, in the southeast, the humidity does make it much worse. that's why they always bring up that heat index. last thing, zinhle, important information, people need to take breaks from the sun. and also drink enough water. to avoid suffering from the effects of the sun, of course, heat exhaustion and other effects that can come from when someone is out there all day long. >> yeah, feeling that heat on land, in the city, that story about the kid was a hard one. there's a reason it's the hottest on record. let's head to london. with nbc's matt bradley. matt, the pictures we've been
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seeing for days are just alarming. where do things stand right now with the heat wave? >> yeah, zinhle, finally, what kind of like what we're hearing for the united states, we might be seeing the other side of this crisis. and it was, indeed, a crisis over the past several weeks. we heard from greet at the ortiz, that's been the focus of a lot of the pictures i think you're seeing right now on your screen, they said that 400 square kilometers of wildfires were all over greece in july alone. that's compared to the 500 kilometers that typically burned in greece over the entire year. just goes to show, how much of this crisis has been focused in greece, especially, but throughout all of europe in just the past month. it's no wonder we've heard from scientists that july was the hottest month on record. ever since records have been kept. not just in europe, but throughout the entire world. again, this crisis is afflicting all across the mediterranean. nine different countries. we saw wildfires in tunisia, algeria as well. and in turkey. 34 people were killed in tunisia, alongside the five
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people who were killed in greece, including some people who died in plain accidents by planes that we try to put out the blaze. three people, elderly people, were killed in sicily in italy. as this crisis continues to unravel, and again, we're seeing the other side of it, there's been lower temperatures, lower winds, yet we're hearing that firefighters have been managing to actually contain most of the fires, particularly in greece, outside of athens, and on that island of rhodes, where the whole country, at least 20,000 people were displaced or evacuate, because what happened in just the last several weeks. this is going to have a searing effect on the politics and the scientific understanding, not just in europe, but throughout the world. we heard that pope francis, in just a past couple of days, actually yesterday, came out and warned politicians, they need to do more about climate change. politicians, crucially, and scientists, have said these rash weather events that we've been seeing of the past month, they are attributing all of that to the effects of climate change. zinhle i, want to draw you tend to do something have that
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happen much further afield, outside of europe. in india, over the past week, there was a meeting of g20 members, g20 countries, ministers of economy, and the environment, in these 20 countries that are, together, make up 80% of the global climate changing a missions. again, these are the countries that are, by far, the worst offenders when it comes to climate change. just this past week, in just the past couple of days, they adjourned without coming to an agreement, without being able to issue a joint statement among the 20 countries. this meeting, ministerial level meeting, what's happening in india, while they were literally watching the world burn, and watching temperatures spike, still, these politicians were not able to come to an agreement. zinhle? >> tough stuff, wow. matt bradley, really important reporting, thank you very much. we're gonna turn now to the u.s., lawmakers on both sides of the aisle are speaking out against highly controversial new plans from the florida department of education, to revise how the history of
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slavery is taught in the state. new additions to this false curriculum suggest that enslaved people somehow benefited from the, quote, skills they weren't well in forced labor. florida governor ron desantis and presidential candidate continues to defend the changes, well opponents, like republican senator tim scott, or pointing out how problematic they really are. >> it's interesting, as a country founded on freedom, the greatest deprivations to freedom was slavery. there's no silver lining in slavery. the truth is, anything you can learn, that any benefits of people suggest you had during slavery, you would've had as a free person. >> joining me now texas democratic congresswoman a member of the house oversight committee, jasmine crockett. thank you so much for your time. in addition to senator scott, florida governor near -- byron donalds, also said that, quote, the attempt to feature the personal benefits of slavery is wrong and needs to be adjusted. in response to that, we heard from governor desantis, he
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accused these lawmakers of siding with the left, and siding with the white house. i want to hear your reaction to these new changes to florida social studies courses. obviously, this is not new. african american history has been making headlines. what's your reaction to how ron desantis continues to seem to be on the defense of all sides, including his fellow republicans? >> okay, so, first of all, ron desantis is a loser. so, he's gonna continue to wage these losing battles. he looked out and became the governor of florida, he's only taken florida down. unfortunately, texas hasn't really offered any good guidance, seemingly, he was following my governor in so many ways. and he's decided to verge off and wage fights with black republicans, which fights with mickey mouse. ron desantis needs to chill out, and he honestly needs to suspend his campaign. as it relates to my black
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colleagues on the other side of the aisle, i'm surprised that they're saying anything at all. even a blind person can see, this was the next step that we were going to take. they did not have very much to say when the war was being waged, as it relates to crt. and really running to have a revisionist history on african american studies then. this was just the next level. they have decided they are going to whitewash and completely act as if slavery was a benefit to black folk. my only question is, how many of them are willing to sign up for slavery today if that's the case? if they are looking for those same good benefits that black folks suffered under. i'll wait for them to sign up. >> representative, i wonder, have you spoken with any of those black republicans, and if not, what might you say to them now? >> no, i've not had a chance to. we just got out of session. listen, the only thing that i
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can tell them, this is the reason that black people are not interested in being republicans. honestly, while they are saying the quiet part out loud right now, anyone who has paid attention to the policies that republicans have continually pushed, they are policies that have absolutely been against who we are as black folk, and definitely always attacked our freedoms. that's why we fight so hard as it relates to things such as the dobbs decision, that agenda that was being pushed. we know the disproportionate impact that comes upon black people. same thing with many of their policies. we know there's been a disproportionate impact when it comes to things such as criminal justice. continually, they are attacking black people, but before when they were making the attacks, they weren't so blatant about it. now, they're basically saying it, and we know that they have historically been stoking the support of those white
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supremacists. we know that was the game. we know when we looked at who attacked on january 6th, they were stoking those far right extremist racists. they didn't say anything then. it's shocking that they're saying anything now. honestly, it's a little too late. >> representative, there's also been a lot of talk, among your very colleagues across the aisle, about moving forward with impeachment proceedings from president biden over his son, hunter's business dealings with ukraine. but as you pointed out, donald trump himself made over $6 million from china during his first year as president. that's according to his very own tax records. meanwhile, hunter biden, joe biden's son, is just a private citizen. so, what does this behavior say to you about warehouse publicans or right now? and what are democrats going to do if there is an actual move to impeach biden? >> yeah, so, obviously they're full of distractions, right? they want to pretend as if they have all of this great evidence,
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and they're calling the president's family the crime family. nobody saying that about trump, who has countless indictments on both the state and federal level. and more coming. this is just more distractions, they are trying to say, no, no, no, don't look at look at what's going on over here with trump. look at the president. as it was already laid out, and thank you for pointing that out, when i was in the oversight committee, and they wanted to have an entire committee hearing about hunter biden, a private citizen who is absolutely planning to plead guilty to misdemeanors, not felonies, not like trump's cronies, but misdemeanors offenses, which typically are not even charged, when we brought out the facts, we got over 10 million people every single year, that failed to pay their taxes on time. we only got through 700 people out of the 10 million, and somehow, the presidents son ends up being one of them.
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fine, whatever. he said he would accept responsibility. i applaud him for that. but the idea that we would have an entire hearing and waste taxpayer dollars on a private citizen is absolutely absurd. when we couldn't even get the tax returns from trump, and once we had a glimpse of those tax returns, they lead to actual indictments in new york. he was paying off stormy daniels and writing that off of his taxes, as if that was just a payment to his attorney. when we look at the fact that he was actually taking money from places, such as china, and we don't know the source of those monies. the republicans want to say, we know that he had business dealings. okay, that's cool. whatever. we don't know where this money came from. so, you can't say, just because he had business dealings, that this money was legit. i am tired of them playing games with the american people. we know there is one party that is focused on making sure that every day working families lives are better. we are focused on the real
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issues, we are focused on inflation, we are focused on making sure the working families can put food on the table. instead of political games. >> thank you so much for sharing your insights and thoughts with us today. representative jasmine crockett, thank you very much. i want to bring into conversation, symone sanders-townsend. our very own host of symone, which follows us at four pm eastern. so good to see you. i want to start where we left off with the congresswoman about donald trump, i want to talk about his republican presidential opponents. we had a dozen candidates sharing the stage with trump just last night, at an iowa forum. only one took on the presidents legal challenges directly. here's how that went, let's take a listen. >> donald trump is not running for president to make america great again. donald trump is not running for president to represent the people that voted for him in 2016 in 2020. donald trump is running to stay out of prison.
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and if we elect -- i know, i know, i know, i know. >> all right, you can see in that reaction, the boos may be why former president trump's rivals do not call him out. what do you think the long term strategy is for these folks, these candidates, to hope that jack smith does what they cannot. in trump's candidacy. >> zinhle, it is good to see. that is certainly what a number of republicans i've personally heard say privately. when it comes to former congressman will hurd, i think the boos went on sustain throughout the rest of his remarks. every candidate last night in iowa had about ten minutes to speak. he said that donald trump failed to grow the party with women. and with constituents that they needed if they wanted to be successful. that's why he lost in 2020. i think every candidate is going to have to answer for all of the things they've been saying on the campaign trail,
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if and when they get on that debate stage the first debate comes this august. look, they don't necessarily take on donald trump directly, like will hurd does. or like former governor chris christie does. trump is still very popular with the base. these candidates are gonna have to figure out how to differentiate themselves from trump. and say why voters should pick them over the former president, if they want to have any chance of breaking the logjam and getting some delegates, so they can maybe unseat donald trump from the front runner of the pack. >> symone, let's talk about the one candidate trump did. name wrong desantis. his campaign reboot seems to be the beginning with the defense of slavery. what is the strategy here? or is this just him being unable to understand that the enslavement of people was not okay? >> well, it's crazy, zinhle, that we're having to have these conversations. but the reality is, look, first
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of all, i think ron desantis is just not a good presidential candidate. obviously, he was a good republican candidate for governor in his state. that's what he won twice. i don't think he's a good presidential candidate. he doesn't seem to enjoy being out on the campaign trail, retail politics. he told acquitted iowa fare, earlier this week, that the treat of the child had looked like a little had too much sugar. i don't know. but i do think this whole conversation around the florida education standards that were recently adopted by governor desantis's cabinet, if you will, his department of education, we have gotten mixed signals from ron desantis. first, he said, i didn't do, that i wasn't involved. this is what i think they're trying to say. then he came out with a very forceful defense, then he's now saying, oh, republicans in my party and vice president kamala harris are lying about the policies. i encourage people to read the policy, it's accurate. >> that's big.
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people should do that. be informed. read the policy. symone sanders-townsend, thank you very much. be sure to catch symone interview with what representative benny thompson, chairman of the january 6th committee today at four pm eastern, directly following the show. you can watch symone every weekend at four pm, right here on msnbc. and on peacock, the new episode streaming every monday. still ahead, new video shows the road to recovery for the 18-year-old son of, including music. how bronny james sudden cardiac arrest is just the latest court related incident affecting young black male athletes. and how we can help prevent it. that's coming up next. it
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encouraging news about lebron james's son. less than a week after bronny james collapsed, and went into cardiac arrest during college basketball practice, take a look and listen. ♪ ♪ ♪ that right there is bronny james, playing the piano. lebron posted the video today, writing, keep going, young king! we are here right with, you every step of the way. we're now hearing from portions of mondays urgent 9-1-1 call for help. >> which may. okay, get an ambulance here now. >> okay, all right sir. >> is there a doctor on scene with him? or a registered nurse? >> no, there's no doctor. >> help is already on the way. >> the 18-year-old is a rising star at the university of southern california, after he
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collapsed, he was rushed to the hospital, and admitted to the icu. one of his doctors said james was fully conscious and stable. here to talk about, at nbc's doctor auction a cycle. this one hits close to home, i've got brothers around his age, who play sports. notably, bronny james is the second recruit at this school to face cardiac arrest. what's going? on how common is this in young athletes, who you think are pretty healthy. >> we were wondering the same thing. we actually called up some of the world's leading sports called all just basically doctors who do physical things like that, specializing in the heart i asked him, how common is this? are you seeing this every day the good news is broadly, speaking, this is rare, especially this age of, is not something we see that much. for some reason, akshay basketball players and black basketball years of the college level seemed to have the highest rates? why, we don't know it could be lifestyle, could be genetics. when we talk about what
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happened with damar him in just a few months ago, that was -- basically a blow to the chest at the exact wrong moment of the heartbeat. what caused this? we don't know. what i'm thinking is going to happen, given all the media attention around, this around damar hamlin, obviously, these campaigns being brought up, there's gonna be a lot more research going into this specific demographic. are they at higher risk of cardiac arrest? is there something that they need to be tested for before they play sports. >> that's an important distinction, hammond was a different case, this has to do with cardiac arrest. how can parents and guardians and coaches look out for this? are there any warning signs? should there be screenings? i know athlete often get checkups before they start playing. >> they do. but there's not always a way to pick this up, unfortunately, cardiac arrest doesn't always have warning signs. there's a great quote in the article we had, one of the first signs of cardiac arrest, unfortunately, is cardiac arrest. some people might have this sort of dizziness, light-headedness, palpitations. unfortunately, sometimes, you can just be prepared for it. in terms of watching for
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symptoms. one thing we can do, one thing everything everybody should, do especially if you're involved in high school or college sports, have a defibrillator on hand. no cpr. make sure you go through these things with your players before you start the season. i think a lot of people are going to be starting to give this more attention, given these two events in just six months. >> so true. you hear the 9-1-1 call, your gut just dropped when they hear them say, is their doctor onsite? no. you hope they have one of those tools. i wonder, what can doctors, or what should doctors, be looking for, when they're checking out these young athletes? >> a lot of parents are also wondering this. parents of young people watching the show right now, who are going to varsity basketball, or collegiate basketball, wondering, do i need to get my heart checked? we ask the sports cardiologist this. right now, there's no broad statement saying, everybody who's gonna play sports you get an ekg or an echo, basically an ultrasound of your heart, more specialized testing. there is no need for everybody go and get that right now. right now, the focus is really on making sure you're prepared, you know what to do. recognizing the signs, if somebody goes into cardiac arrest, maybe they're unresponsive, you shake them on
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the shoulders, they're not waking up. breathing a little bit different. those are the two sides you want to watch for. you are not a use those tools, like the defibrillator, and like cpr, rather than us testing everybody before we play sports right. now >> yeah, briefly, you just have five minutes of some of those in the cardiac arrest, before the some major damage? >> yeah, once the brain starts to lose austin to jim, the tissues in the cells in the break it directly. >> doctor akshay syal, thank you so. much here's to a lifetime of laundry in taxes. find out which star from the hit movie, everything, everywhere all at once. just tied the knot after an engagement that lasted more than many married marriages. >> [speaking in a non-english language] try boost® high protein with 20 grams of protein for muscle health versus 16 grams in ensure® high protein. boost® high protein. now available in cinnabon® bakery-inspired flavor. learn more at boost.com/tv
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michael phelps. the deck easily won her trademark 8800 meter freestyle, to win her 16th internet individual world title. she also became the first swimmer to win the same event at world's six-time. we have some very happy news to share to. academy award winning actor, michelle yeoh, mary john -- 19 years after the motorsports executive proposed to her. she even held her oscar in the wedding photos, of course. as you see right there. we send our congratulations to her, but we also hope there won't be too much laundry and taxes in the happy couple's future. well, he might've thought he was making a clean getaway, instead, accused ohio bank burglar fell into a trash can, right into the hands of law enforcement. officers showed up after the alarm went off in the middle of the night. they saw a healing ceiling hatch open, in a tool bag dropped to the ground. you see it there. then came the suspect. >> on the ground!
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>> authorities say that 27 year old tristan -- getting handcuffed. he gave faces charges including safe cracking. well, that wraps it up for this hour, thank you so much for being with, us i'm zinhle essamuah you can watch me every day, 2 to 4 pm, weekdays on nbc news. now we have you stream live. symone starts right now. greetings everyone, we are watching symone. donald trump hit with new charges of obstruction and -- classified documents, including damning details of this alleged conspiracy to delete security video. while that plot thickens, a third indictment against the former president late into january 6th in the 2020 election happens next week. i'll be joined by the man who laid the groundwork to hold donald trump accountable for efforts to overturn a free and fair elon
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