of tie it may come down to a goal difference. i'll second it back to you. >> nobody who is watching doubts their readiness. that will do it for us this hour. make sure to join us every day 1:00 to 3:00 p.m. eastern. our coverage continues right now. >> hay, everyone. this could be an historic week of legal developments for donald trump. starting in miami, where we got our first look at his newest look at the classified documents case, carlos de oliveira facing charges for lying to investigators and trying to delete security camera footage at mar-a-lago. why he did not enter a me this morning and how much that could play into a delay of the trial date. plus, how many of that could be foaled into a brand new defense fund being built for president

trump's allies. what we are hearing from the trump campaign in the midst of cash flow problems. we're watching the d.c. federal courthouse for any news in jackson smith's election interference probe. how close we could be to indictment there. and there was movement in georgia. and was hinted at over the weekend. we're on the ground at the courthouse. the security there ramps up. let's begin in florida. joining me now, katie, also, nbc news justice correspondent. start us off, if you will. take us inside that courtroom. what happened today? >> reporter: so good morning. this morning, carlos de oliveira arrived with his counsel john irving at the federal courthouse behind me. it is the same courthouse that walt nauta was arraigned a few weeks ago. it is not the courthouse that

donald trump was arraigned at. however, there was no arraignment today because carlos de oliveira didn't have an attorney of law qualified. so it has been rescheduled. the biggest takeaways are the following. one, there are efforts currently being made by de oliveira to obtain local counsel which dove tails what you're talking about. flerms where will the money come from. we also heard an attempt by de oliveira to reschedule his arraignment for august 25th. why is that date important? it is the next deadline in the classified information deadlines that the judge set forth in her trial order. the judge said absolutely not. the judge made it clear that mr. de oliveira had to be arraigned prior to that august 25th date. so he was set to post a $100,000

bond. he has to abide by a special condition that both trump and nauta have to abide by. they cannot have communications about the facts of this case with witnesses that have been identified by the department of justice. so we'll be tuning in on august 10th to see who the counsel will be for carlos de oliveira. >> what is up with these individuals not being able to obtain local counsel? walt nauta as well. i believe his arraignment was delayed. is it this difficult to get local counsel in florida? or is this a strategy to delay the whole process? >> reporter: i wouldn't read too much into it. often, judges will allow a public defender to step in in an arraignment for a defendant who hasn't had a chance to procure local counsel. usually people are surprised when they get indicted. they don't have much advance

warning. at mar-a-lago, it may be difficult to secure the legal representation they think they need. in this case, the judge is deferring to them and allowing them to pick their own lawyers but i don't think it will delay things. judge aileen cannon has said she wants to move this along. she wants it to happen before the first pretrial hearing. and his lawyer john irving is on the case and fully able to start getting ready and to try to understand the charges. we should not lose sight of the significance of this. it is not just the property manager at mar-a-lago being charged. these recharges against president trump accusing him of an extraordinary conspiracy to destroy evidence that was under grand jury subpoena. unprecedented in american history. >> katie, you dug into this a little bit. i want to you draw new strings, that is this legal defense fund now created by the former president essentially called the save america pac. they spend $40 million or so

since the beginning. year. some of this fund will in fact cover the former president's legal defense. but also, co-defendants, right? like walt nauta and de oliveira. who else will be folded into this thing? >> well, the pac is not going to be covering trump's bills moving forward. the legal defense fund, excuse me. won't be covering it from what we've heard. it will cover associates, known associates being investigated that perhaps are looking the at cases that have already been filed like walt nauta as well as carlos de oliveira. a couple ways to look at this. one, ethically speaking, as an attorney, you can have your bills paid by another co-defendant's funds. it kind of raises some eyebrows. as we know, in august of 2022, a search warrant was executed at mar-a-lago. according to the superseding

indictment, it says i will get you a lawyer. so it only took a couple weeks pledging that to de oliveira and the evidence would suggest that trump is trying to buy the cooperation or even the silence of carlos de oliveira. >> so can't that be seen, we're going to get into this in just a bit with our legal panel. can that not be seen as a conflict of interest? >> the conflict only arises if the attorney cannot provide an adequate representation that is competent to that particular client. there are very specific rules that govern how lawyers are supposed to comport. they. if they run afoul of it, not only could they have problems with the existing case and the judges in the tribunal but they may be looking at action against their license by the bar association or the state bar or the federal bar that is governing their licenses. >> we're looking at this arraignment now. obviously, as katie laid out. august 25th was what de oliveira

wanted. it is august 10th now. what are the rules surrounding whether or not he could be in touch with the former president between now and then? >> he can be in touch with him. he just can't discuss the case, according to this order. but doesn't that seem unenforceable? how is that policed exactly? when walt nauta is the personal valet to the former president and carlos de oliveira is working at mar-a-lago. >> thank you. let's get into our legal panel with all this stuff. my guests are both msnbc legal analysts and we are very thankful for that. mary, start things off for us. i think one of the things we've been talking about since thursday is whether or not the trial case for the mar-a-lago docs will be pushed back from

may 20th. of 2024. with all that has taken place so far, are you seeing that as more and more likely? >> i think it is certainly possible we've added new charges, there is been a new defendant added. that defendant has his own attorney. that attorney will want to file motions. that attorney will want to go through the discovery. but i don't think it is necessarily the first thing that judge cannon will do. she may wait to see how able mr. de oliveira's attorneys are able to get the discovery and get moving on this case before she entertains any kind of motion to extend the trial date. and motions also can be additional motions will likely be brought by the former president and mr. nauta in light of these new charges as well. now, one thing that makes me think this isn't so obvious that the trial date will get pushed is that mr. de oliveira is not

charged with any mishandling of national defense information or classified documents. so his need to have access to all that classified discovery and participate in the classified information procedures act hearings is much, much less than mr. trump's. so his case is a straightforward obstruction case. the attempt to destroy the effort and conspiracy to destroy. so it could be streamlined. all of that said, i'm sure there will be an entreaty to change the trial date and push it out. >> so you actually see there is an upside to the delay in the mar-a-lago docs case. what is that? >> yeah. i think if it gets delayed enough, there could potentially be room to squeeze in the january 6th trial before the mar-a-lago trial. so i think in some ways, that could be a benefit to jack smith. as it is with this may 20th trial date, if the january 6th case were to be indicted this

week or next week, i think they would be looking at a trial after that. sometime no earlier than probably july or maybe even butting into the fall. at that point, the later it gets, the more trump's push to make it after the election might begin to make essential. if the mar-a-lago indictment gets pushed a month or two, now we see the alvin bragg indictment and the mar-a-lago case, perhaps the jigt case could be tried in that case. and that is the big one. that is the one about overturning democracy. so if jack smith plays his cards right, he might be able to adjourn the mar-a-lago case and squeeze in the january 6th case before that. >> why would they be able to make a case for the january 6th case happening sooner than the mar-a-lago docs case? why wouldn't that also be pushed back as well? >> well, the mar-a-lago case has some complications that are not present in the january 6th case. the classified information procedures act that governs all of these classified documents

that are charged in the case. the president's argument that he has through executive power the ability to have these documents i think raises some novel questions of law that may not be present in the january 6th case. so it could be that as this case gets pushed along, there is a sufficient window in between to try the january 6th case. >> we talked a little bit, mary, about this conflict of interest. i want to talk about what we're getting in here about paying for de oliveira's bills as well as nauta's legal bills. the unnamed employee, that de oliveira is quote, unquote, loyal. and on the same day, trump calling de oliveira that trump would get him an attorney. this from nbc news as well. based on federal election filings, it appeared trump made good on that promise. trump's pac paid more than

$189,000 in 2022 to the law firm where de oliveira's lawyer, john irving, is a partner. realistically, if the feds are looking to flip or get de oliveira to cooperate, how will they do that if the former president is paying his legal bills? is this not some sort of an ethics violation? >> not on its face. a lawyer has an ethical duty to the client, not the person paying the lawyer. so for example, in corporate cases, it's not uncommon if there are multiple people employed by a corporation who are indicted, the corporation will often pay those legal bills. the problem would often arise if mr. de oliveira's attorney was not loyal to mr. de oliveira and in fact loyal to trump. we have no reason to believe that's the case. john irving is a well-respected lawyer. i know him personally.

that is the fear, right? we've seen in the past, for example, when cassidy hutchinson was represented, being paid for by the trump organization, she was much more reluctant to speak with the house select committee. when she got other counsel, she then began to be cooperative. i think the concern here, frankly, and this would not be an issue of legal ethics. this would just be a feeling of coercion that mr. de oliveira may feel. he may himself feel loyalty to mr. trump because he's worked for him for decades, as i understand it. that has been his source of income. he's been elevated within mar-a-lago. so he may want to cooperate for those reasons. that's not a legal ethical conflict. and it remain to be seen if there is. >> i'm wondering how that

conversation goes. if the attorney being paid for by the former president of the united states, and this defense fund find it is in the best interests of de oliveira to cooperate with the feds, how does that play out? >> well, at some point, if he decides he wants to cooperate, he either or the government can file a motion with the court for the court to inquire about whether the defendant is satisfied with his legal representation. as a prosecutor, i was always very reluctant to get between a client and his lawyer. if there was some interest in pursuing some kind of inconsistent defense that someone wants to cooperate or any other inconsistency, the judge can make a finding that the lawyer has a conflict of interest and that could give any of these witnesses an opportunity to hire new counsel. because as mary says, the duty of loyalty is to the client. not to the person paying for them. >> thank you. i'm going to ask to you stick around. coming up next, with that,

speaking of coordination, we are live in fulton county after the break. what the d.a. is saying about her plans to announce in the 2020 election investigation. plus, an nbc news exclusive. one-on-one with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu. how he is defending his judicial overhaul in the face of massive protests in the country. and signaling the war in ukraine may be shifting its front lines. what this means for russia and the ongoing campaign. we are back in 60 seconds.

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we've been working two and a half years. we're ready to go. >> we are ready to go. the fulton d.a. foni saying a charging decision is coming. with friction on both sides, joining me now from outside the courthouse is nbc news, blaine, it's always good to talk to you. more courthouse workers have been told to work from home for most of august. we've known this for quite some time. the barricades have been erected. what else are we learning that could indicate how soon we might hear a charging decision? >> reporter: well, yes, we're fully expecting to hear the decisions sometime within the next three weeks. keep in mind we don't know who or if there will be indictments. this heightened security around the courthouse was raised in a red flag advance. the clearest indication that foni willis is preparing to seek indictments against some very high level people including

potentially the former president himself. so when we talk about security here at the courthouse, yes, she laid it out in a letter back in may to local law enforcement saying she plans to ask 70% of her staff to work from home. she asked judges not to schedule any in-person trials or hearings during this time period. and she wanted law enforcement officials like the fulton county sheriff, police chief, all the people in charge of securing this area to have ample time to do just that. to make sure they had enough time to shore up the courthouse and make sure everything is okay. what is at stake hear, we know several things. the table is set. she's made it clear she plans to announce her decision before september. we know two grand juries are currently seated and one of those, she will be presenting her case before the grand jury. there are two. one that meets on mondays and tuesdays, the other that meets on thursdays and fridays. she has to convince half of them so we're talking about 13 votes.

we're focusing on this in the lens of frump being investigated for a long time. she's also looking into a number of his allies investigating a lot of things we know that rudy giuliani, for example, is a target in this, including a number of georgia's alternate electors. some of them sought immunity deals so there could be a sprawling indictment. >> read the tea leaves for us. something else she said amidst all of this and the local interviews she's been given. is that people might not be happy with her decision. what should we take from that? >> she's been saying it a long time. she's gotten threats. she has upped her security. she told me that last summer. right at the very beginning of this investigation, that she increased her security. she sent a letter to the fbi and said she wants the fbi to take a look at the courthouse and making sure everything is where it needs to be in terms of security. it is clear she understands the

gravity of this case. we know the fulton county sheriff sent employees to both manhattan and miami to watch the proceedings there when we saw the former president trump showing up there for arraignment there. so we know they're looking to see what protests look like and preparing for the possibility of that and anything else that could come down the line. >> thank you. with me now, the former acting national security analyst. we've been talking about the scope of these investigations and the looming time line of when we'll hear about a possible indictment here, looking at both the special counsel investigation with january 6th, as well as what is coming out of fulton county and wondering whether or not there was coordination between the two. there was a question about that from wabe over the weekend. she said this. i don't know what jack smith is doing and jack smith doesn't know what i'm doing. if all honesty, if jack smith

was standing next to me, i'm not sure i would know who he was. he probably can't even pronounce my name correctly. is this surprising to you that there might not be conversations happening between the two? >> it's not really surprising to me. the time when you have the most conversations between federal prosecutors and the state or local prosecutors are often time when you've had sort of any joint investigations. sometimes narcotics trafficking investigations. human trafficking investigations. there could be decisions to bring charges federally or locally and they'll talk to each other about who will take it. we see it also sometimes with hate crimes. something could be charged locally as a hate crime. it might also be able to be charged federally as a hate crime. it is true these investigations are related in the sense that foni willis's investigation seem to be a subset of jack smith's

investigation into the undermining of the 2020 election. i would be surprised if they were really consulting. i take her at her word when she said to a reporter, but i wouldn't be surprised if they were consulting about substantive charges and things like that. they may have a discussion about timing, although at least so far she have not done that. >> so the former president has a constitutional right to due process meaning, being able to adequately prepare for the trials that are ahead. he could have potentially four trials ahead inside of a presidential election in which he is running for re-election. president of the united states. how do you square those two? >> well, that's the real challenge. if he ends up facing four separate indictments in four different jurisdictions, each judge will have to feel confident in setting their trial date and their schedule for motions and everything else, that they are giving mr. trump and anyone else who is indicted along with him, although he is the one facing multiple

indictments. giving him adequate time to actually mount a defense. that is his due process right. a right accorded to him by the constitution. he can't try to game this. he can't say i only have two attorneys. there is no way they can get ready in four cases. this is a man with abundant resources and the ability to hire more attorneys if necessary. so i think, and i think you could also see, and i would note that the district attorney alvin bragg in manhattan did speak, i think maybe it was friday or saturday, over the weekend, about if his case, if his trial needed to yield to the needs of one of the federal trials, he was amenable to that. you could see that kind of thing taking place. i do think it is possible between now and the election to have four trials and afford mr. trump full due process consistent with the constitution but it does mean courts will have to stick with their schedule and attorneys will have to follow the schedules. >> you heard it here, folks. thank you for sticking with us. we appreciate you. coming up, everybody, an nbc

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responsible and its firm. >> in an interview with msnbc news prime minister benjamin netanyahu rejecting growing international criticism that he's leaving israel down a path of extremism. his deeply unpopular plan to overhaul the judiciary now rests with israel's supreme court which will be reviewing the very law designed to limit its power. netanyahu's mood triggering six months of unrelenting protests throughout the country. we'll talk more about this, fresh off the interview. good to talk to you, my friend. you pushed the prime minister on the direction that he is taking his government in. what was his response? >> reporter: well, prime minister netanyahu is not backing down in the face of intense criticism, both at home and abroad. he is the leader of a nation deeply divided over his controversial plan to weaken

israel's supreme court. we have seen the divisions on full display every week for the last six months on the streets in juice lex, tel aviv, other streets with these massive protests, saying the supreme court is the only real check on the government's power. a weakened court means a weakened israeli democracy. benjamin netanyahu was adamant that he sees these changes as strengthening democracy. he says these are necessary reforms to take power out of the hands of unelected judges, put it back in the hands of elected politicians. that is not an argument that has convinced the protest orss and there is a lot of skepticism in the white house also. president biden appealed to the prime minister. very unusual appeal on the eve of the vote last week to stop, pause, seek consensus. netanyahu pushed ahead any way. the white house calls that unfortunate when this went through on a partisan vote.

the president's criticisms not limited to this judicial overhaul. he has concerns about the far right politicians who netanyahu is included in his cabinet. and i asked the prime minister about those men and their records earlier today. take a listen. your national security minister has concerns for inciting racism. he once suggested wiping a palestinian village off the month. he suggested segregated maternity wards to separate jewss and arabs. when he says you've brought in extremists, is he wrong? >> a lot of statements have been walked away from. they're assuming responsibility, they're changing their tune. more importantly, it is not what they say. it is what we do. what we do is to follow the responsible and tested policies that i put forth.

at the end, we make the decisions. it is the actions that count. and the words, well, i don't control the words. i control the deeds. the words are changing. >> reporter: the president and the prime minister will have a chance to sit down and thrash some of this out in september. even the logistics of the meefg are relieving some of the tensions. netanyahu says he's been invited to the oval office. the white house is refusing to confirm that. they say the location is still to be determined. when these two leaders can't get another same page even about a meeting, it shows something is going on. >> thank you. we want to bring in now the chief white house correspondent, nbc news analyst. just from the snippet of what you've heard so far, what is your reaction to this interview we heard from benjamin netanyahu? >> he wants to address the american audience about this, right? not because he thinks he will

convince president biden. he wants to speak to his allies in the united states who are uncertain about why he is pressing this so hard in the face of so much opposition at home. seeing these pictures of hungs of thousands of israelis in the streets, they understand this has been going on for months and a lot of american jews are concerned about where this will take israel. and benjamin netanyahu wants to reassure them. he doesn't think they're doing anything radical or extreme. that may not convince them in the united states but he's addressing his international critics, not just domestic ones. >> considering what we've seen domestically inside israel with these ongoing protests, it seems as if the prime minister is out of touch with reality. also, considering where the united states stands on this as well with his judicial overall. what is his objective here from your perspective? >> he has his own domestic coalition issues.

he has a very narrow right wing coalition, and he has to accommodate the ones who have pushed him to do this kind of reform. he might not have been on his own. but at the moment he needs to hold together his coalition which has a bare majority at the moment. some people think this indicates weakness on his part. he is being pushed into it by his own coalition politics. but it may not be the end of the story. we don't know where this will go. they passed the first stage of this reform, this overhaul. but there are other stages to go. and they're coming up with even more controversial. this first one itself is already under review as it happens from the same supreme court that they are targeting. we don't know how this will come together. it could be a constitutional clash at home. it has real consequences. there are reserve. is putting the military security forces. there are others in society who are withholding their services. there are people in the streets. it is a big deal there and a big

deal in washington where they're watching with a great deal of concern. >> i want to get one other point of conversation in here. you write in the "new york times" over the weekend about how the president, president biden, of course, is still pushing for diplomatic relations between israel and saudi arabia. raf asked the prime minister about that. i want to take a listen to that part of his interview and then we'll talk. >> how optimistic are you that there could be a peace deal between israel and saudi arabia? are you prepared to bless saudi arabia getting civilian nuclear power? are you prepared to make concessions to the palestinians as part of an agreement? >> i think if we achieve normalization and peace between israel and saudi arabia, this will be a pivot of history. i think it will be a quantum leap. after the quantum leap made with the abraham accords. i appreciate that the administration is putting time and effort into this. as am i.

and it is really, of course, up to saudi arabia in all this to see if we can come to a middle ground. as far as what to do with the palestinians, i'll tell you what my position has been. i always that, with the palestinians, they should have all the powers to govern themselves, or rather, all the ability to govern themselves and none of the powers to threaten israel. and that hasn't changed. that's my view. i'll do whatever i can. i'll never compromise israel's security. >> peter, i don't necessarily hear concessions there. as you write, the saudis want real action on the ground. not promises from the perimeter. >> and i think that's what we were talking about. the coalition politics. a lot of them would not accept the concessions that saudi may acquire. and some people think that may threaten the existence of the government.

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toward carrying out attacks on russian territory. this is not new. what is new is the frequency, the boldness of it and the statements that we're hearing from ukrainian officials. going back even to the middle of the war, not in the beginning, but the middle phases of the war. so a year ago now there were attacks launched across the board. there were a few, but they did happen. there were several russian ammunition depots that were attacked that ukraine launched a helicopter assault that veerd over the border and carried out a strike inside russian territory. there's, of course, the famous attack on the bridge which is occupied land, but russia considers the kerch bridge, russia considers it part of the motherland. so ukraine has been doing this without publicly acknowledging it and doing it in these sort of one-off attacks here now and

again, but now we're seeing three drone attacks just in the last week in and around moscow. four in the last month and a statement yesterday from president zelenskyy saying that it is normal and natural and justifiable for ukraine to carry out attacks inside russia. that's a different way of framing a pattern that has become fairly obvious where ukraine is more interested in bringing this war to the russian people so that they understand what's going on, that they can't bury their heads in the sand. a lot of people in russia according to russians themselves have tried to ignore the war, live their lives and put -- cast politics aside. >> richard, we only have about 30 seconds or so left, but do you feel with this kind of new phase of this war that the ukrainians are feeling more emboldened, more empowered right now? >> i don't know if it's that

they're feeling empowered or it's a sign of i don't want to say desperation, but they're trying to mix it up. they're in the midst of this counteroffensive, so far it's been very slow anything. some indications that they're throwing more troops at it now than they were in the early phases, but they are not having the rapid success breaking through the russian front lines that they'd hoped, so now they are adding this, it seems, to the equation, as well. perhaps to change the dynamic to change the public opinion as these kinds of attacks attacking empty buildings at 4:00 in the morning are not designed to inflict casualties, these are more psychological attacks. >> richard engel, good to talk to you. thank you. switching gears, everybody. coming up, the u.s. woman's national team is hours away from the high-stakes world cup match against portugal. for those of you staying up late or waking up early, we'll have everything you need to know before kickoff.

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welcome back. if you are willing to lose a little bit of sleep you are in for an exciting night, to say the least. the u.s. women's soccer team takes on portugal for a ticket to the next round of play in the world cup. by far, the most important match yet. nbc news correspondent molly hunter is in auckland, new zealand, with more. >> yeah. this is so cool. we actually get to go to practice. you can take a look behind me. that's the u.s. team and you have the goal keepers over here and this is the final practice before the final group stage match against portugal and that takes place on tuesday night our time at 3:00 a.m. and it will test the loyalty and the alarm clocks of u.s. fans and we had the chance to speak with megan rapinoe, about not only this team, her goals and about what she brings in 2023. take a listen. >> trying to continue to do what

i do, obviously, i have a different role on the team and not playing in the starting role anymore, but you know, any time i get on the field i feel like i still am always just a threat to create something. ultimately, i think the thing that i'm most proud of is i'm a winner. it takes a lot to win and it takes a lot of people in different roles to be able to do that and every single one of them is important, i think. i look back at the times i've been a start are and some of the most important players have been on the bench and never having seen the field at all and it takes all of the energy and everybody doing everything they can to prepare the team to win and ultimately going out there and finishing the job. >> she's such a pro. she was fun. she was generous and extremely complimentary of these younger players, of course, 14 new players making their debuts and she wants to win. the reason to play in the world cup, the reason it is so special and of course, this is her final world cup is because when you go all the way, that is what you

are here to do. we'll be watching that portugal game very, very closely. i'll send it back to you. >> go, team usa. it would be an awesome closer for megan who is closing out an epic career. that does it for me, everybody. "deadline white house" starts right now. ♪♪ ♪♪ hi there, everyone. it is 4:00 in new york. i'm ayman mohyeldin for nicole wallace. it is the age-old expression for donald trump and by extension, his aides caught up in the classified documents indictment. today carlos de oliveira, the mar-a-lago property manager, newly charged in jack smith's documents case was in court. it was his first public appearance since being named in last night's superseding indictment accused of telling a mar-a-lago employee, the boss wanted surveillance footage deleted, footage sought by the