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taxpayers still own 30% of the company. its stock down 89% in less than two years. industry experts believe other trucking companies can pick up yellow's business with minimal impact on the supply chain. tom costello, nbc news. we have a lot to cover in our second hour of chris jansing reports. let's get right to it. at this hour, the d.c. grand jury back in session today and former president trump says he expects charges tied to jack smith's election 2020 interference probe to drop quote any day now. and painful shock waves rippling through the lgbtq community after a gay man was stabbed and killed at a new york city gas station. plus, president biden says
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space command headquarters are staying put in colorado. it's a huge loss for republican senator from alabama who has single handedly blocked all of joe biden's military nominees. and for american fans who didn't wake up at 3:00 a.m. to see the u.s. women's soccer team, we'll go to new zealand to see how fans are handling that overnight, may i say, painful, heartbreaking draw. our nbc news reporters are following all the latest developments. let's start at the d.c. courthouse with ryan riley. what's the latest? >> reporter: we're very closely watching to see what activity we can suss out this afternoon. the indictment would have to be returned in open court. not necessarily by name. so they could simply read out loud that indictment has been returned. u.s. versus dt in this situation or djt. so that's sort of what we're looking for.
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going around, checking those doors to see what's happening. the chief judge can have this or can be the on duty federal magistrate judge. the on duty judge is usually the person who receives it. right now, she is in ongoing initial appearances for just over defendants working their way through the system here. so we're keeping an eye on that courtroom to see whether she ends up going somewhere else or what exactly happens when those initial appearances usually wrap up, which happens usually within sometime within the next hour. we could see in the 3:00 hour some potential returns. i think that that's when we're really, really going to be focused on this. to see what exactly is happening at the courthouse and if there is indeed going to be a really historic investigation launched and an historic indictment returned against the former president of the united states. >> ryan riley at the courthouse, thank you so much. right now, police are searching for a 17-year-old suspect in connection with the
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stabbing death of a gay man who was dancing at a brooklyn gas station. antonia hilton is here for us. what happened and what more can you tell us about the man hunt? >> this man hunt is underway for the 17-year-old but we're also learning more about what happened late on saturday night. o'shea was out with friends at the gas station in brooklyn, dancing, goofing off, celebrating to beyonce's latest album, when suddenly a group of men approached them, hurling anti lgbtq slurs and demanding they stop dancing. according to friends, that's when he stepped forward and tried to stand up for himself and his friends and tell them that being gay was not bad. that's when the fight ensued and he ended up being stabbed according to authorities who suspect the 17-year-old of committing this crime that has sent these shock waves through
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the community here in new york. i've been speaking to people all day who have been grieving the loss of o'shea who was in the underground dance scene but also in the professional dance scene through programs at alvin aily and his hometown of philly. as people grieve, they're pointing to these larger national concerns. in particular, glad and the antidefamation league have been pointing out that since june of 2022, there have been more than 350 recorded incidents of harassment and assaults against lgbtq people. another organization has tracked an average of about 39 anti lgbtq protests happening across the country every month now. that's up from a previous average of just three of those kinds of protests each month. so they are pointing to a climate, an environment here. for a while now, advocacy groups have been warning this kind of
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rhetoric, the conversation, the plitization would transfer to violence in real life and now they're looking at his death at an example of their greatest fears. we expect there will be vigils for him later this weekend and people are waiting minute by minute for more updates by authorities as they search for the suspect. >> what a horrific and senseless loss. thank you. now to that escalating battle between president biden and alabama's senior senator and what it has to do with space command. mike memoli is live from delaware. so what's happening? >> well, chris, as the white house announced its decision yesterday that they were going to keep space command where it's been in colorado springs, colorado, you would expect the kind of swift and severe condemnation from alabama republicans like senator tuberville who called this a blatantly political decision. of course, the white house sparring already with him over
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the issue of military promotions he's holding up over abortion policy. i thought it was interesting to see criticism coming from a fellow democrat, terry sewell, saying this was a decision putting politics over merit. saying she expected more from the biden administration. what the white house is saying, we remember of course the white house ordered a review of the trump decision's to move space command to alabama last fall. and as they were making this decision public, what we're hearing from the pentagon as well as this morning from john kirby, a spokesperson from the national security council was that there was only one factor driving the administration's decision here and that it was operational readiness. the decision that if they had to uproot it, this isn't an overnight operation, in a decade to alabama, that could disrupt readiness of this force at a time when space has emerged as a real emerging battlefield with
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china. that this is really the explicit explanation from the white house, that there are concerns that china would have a competitive advantage. we should note there was some concern, some reporting in fact that abortion policy played a factor here. there was concern that moving this space command to alabama would hurt recruitment efforts because of alabama's new restrictive abortion policy. the white house also saying that this was not a factor in this final decision, chris. >> thank you for that. now to the close call for the u.s. women's soccer team at the world cup. molly hunter is in new zealand and she has the highlights from that nail biter. >> reporter: this late night party shouldn't fool you. the u.s. fans are not happy with this 0-0 result. a tie is good enough to move on. not exactly though the game they wanted. take a look. >> that's going to do it. wow is all we can say.
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>> in the 61st minute, she tries to come to her team's rescue, injecting energy into a u.s. team in need of a jolt. still 0-0 and a heart stopping 90th minute. co-captain alex morgan with a shot at gold. seconds later, portugal hitting the post. both sides battle to the end sending in subs with two just two minutes to go. through much of the match, rose leading the offensive charge. again. and again. but the u.s. not finding the net. the 28-year-old midfielder starting for the first time this tournament after recovering from an injury earlier this spring, getting handed her second yellow card in as many matches, which means she's out for the next one. >> disciplined myself to not pick up the yellow and not help the team next game. >> the u.s. has started the same 11 players the last two games and tonight, veterans were
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setting the pace. >> going out there, i feel like i'm confident and my teammates are able to look at me and know i'm going to bring something and know i'm going to you know, give everything. >> and in another game this morning, the netherlands landing a 7-0 final score and securing their top seed of the group. the u.s. team looking disappointed in that postgame huddle. but the die hard u.s. fans are determined. >> the amount of stress i had every single time they were right in front of the goal and i was like, yes, yes, yes. >> now next up for the u.s. team is going to be facing off against sweden in melbourne. they have five days before that game. when we spoke with meghan before that game, she says this team needs to analyze, look at all that footage, and really take these five days to focus in on how they show up as a stronger team going forward. back to you. >> thank you. still ahead, the city of atlanta bracing for a possible
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trump indictment in the georgia election probe. what the d.a. has to say about conducting her investigation at the same time as jack smith. e s. have fun, sis! ( ♪♪ ) ( ♪♪ ) can't stop adding stuff to your cart? get the bank of america customized cash rewards card, choose the online shopping category and earn 3% cash back. subway's now slicing their meats fresh. that's why soccer pros like me profer the grand slam ham. and this rookie pro... profers fresh sliced turkey. and if we profer it, we know you'll prefer it too. glad you made the cut. you mean slice? seriously? from prom dresses... ...to workouts... ...and new adventures. you hope the more you give the less they'll miss. but even if your teen was vaccinated against meningitis in the past... they may be missing vaccination for meningitis b. although uncommon, up to 1 in 5 survivors of meningitis will have long term consequences.
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now as you're thinking about all the vaccines your teen might need, make sure you ask your doctor if your teen is missing meningitis b vaccination. it's a split screen waiting game for jack smith to move on possible charges in d.c. where the grand jury is now in session and fulton county for the decision against donald trump and others in georgia. barriers are up in atlanta. just one sign of heightened security. of course, no one knows exactly when the decision will drop or collide with jack smith's election interference case. but take a listen to the d.a. >> i don't know what jack smith is doing and jack smith doesn't know what i'm doing. in all honesty, if he was standing next to me, i'm not sure i'd know who he was. my guess is he can't even
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pronounce my name correctly. >> i want to bring in blaine alexander and charlie sykes. lisa ruben is an msnbc legal analyst. i guess there's a difference, lisa, between coordinating and communicating. what do you think is going on between jack smith and fani willis? >> i agree there's a difference between coordinating and communicating but in this case, i actually don't think either one is happening. i really do think that fani willis and the department of justice are pursuing their investigations on separate tracks. once either one of them or both indicts, do i think there will be some sort of communication? probably. i do think there will be communications between and among the various prosecutors here to try and determine a schedule. in particular, alvin bragg, manhattan d.a., last week said to a new york public radio show host that just because he was the first to charge doesn't necessarily mean he'll stand on ceremony and insist that his
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case be first to be tried. that's the order in which it is now. it sounds to me like he'd welcome a call from the department of justice or at least be open to it. my sense is that fani willis will do the same after her grand jury or grand juries indict in her investigation. >> okay. we are just getting a report from the d.c. i want to make sure i have it, to my text messages. so the grand jury has been seen leaving. so they are done for the day. what does that tell us? >> that they're going home because they expect to see another witness at another time. but i think in light of everything that we're hearing, that's increasingly unlikely. i think they're going home because they're done. chances are that they have voted on a true bill of indictment and we should be looking to see whether the foreperson of the grand jury is entering a magistrate judge or district judge's courtroom right now to hand up that indictment.
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and begin the process. >> charlie, what are you looking for in this indictment? >> whether or not there's new evidence, material. whether or not jack smith makes it a speaking indictment. i think it's, it would be naive to think this is going to move donald trump's poll numbers. but at this point, the venue is now shifting from politics into the courtroom and this is the big one. this is the indictment that we have been waiting for since january 6th and i think probably will overshadow everything that has come before. >> i want to step back for a minute, charlie, and remind people what donald trump said about a candidate who faces charges. he was referencing hillary clinton back in november of 2016. take a listen. >> if she were to win this election, it would create an
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unprecedented constitutional crisis. in that situation, we could very well have a sitting president under felony indictment and ultimately a criminal trial. >> should we anticipate that there will be let's say a different take if that happens here? we've already had an indictment happen but what's your take on what we just heard, charlie? >> well, that was then and this is now. what donald trump said about classified documents in 2016 and what he's saying now is rather telling as well as that. look, all of these positions are very situational. and we've seen people turn on a dime. we've seen republicans change their standards immediately when it comes to donald trump. so don't be surprised if you have a quote that is say exactly
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the opposite. trump had a point back in 2016. we have uncharted waters now. the possibility of a presidential candidate being indicted, possibly a convicted felon, taking the oath of office while out on bail or wearing an ankle bracelet. it is very, very possible. even if he is convicted, he can still run and serve. something the founders never imagined was possible. >> i have no doubt. while we wait to see what is happening, if anything indeed is going to come out of the courthouse in d.c., blaine, i know there's a lot of concern about security. what might happen if an indictment were to come down from fani willis. what are we expecting to hear from the local sheriff today? >> it's a similar waiting game down here in georgia, chris, in that we know we're inside that three-week period. but we know that this
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investigation has been going on for quite some time. two and a half years. almost the entirety of the time there have been a number of threats that have come into fulton county. so we are going to ask the sheriff about what they're going to mitigate them. what sort of intelligence they're getting as they prepare for potential indictments in this case. it also comes at a time when just over the weekend, fani willis sent another warning to county individuals. we just obtained an e-mail this morning that was sent to fani willis, rather sent by willis to a number of county commissioners where she forwards a piece of hate mail she received from an anonymous sender last week. i want to read you a little bit of that. a lot of the words i can't say on tv. it was a very quick e-mail. but they call her the n word. they use another word i can't say. describe her as a pro democrat and what's really striking was that she writes in her e-mail to
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commissioners this is not unique. it's not very unique. it's pretty typical and what i've come to expect. so when you kind of look at that in the context of what is likely going to happen here in fulton county over the next few weeks, we know security is heightened. we know we've seen the orange barricades around the courtroom and that's likely only going to increase as the days get closer, chris. >> thank you so much for that, blaine. i've read that e-mail, it's disgusting. lisa, witnesses are still being subpoenaed there in georgia, including a journalist who stumbled into a meeting of alternate republican electors. this was in the georgia capital, december 2020. he wrote a column in which he said quote, when i asked what kind of gathering they were having, they told me it was an education meeting. as it turns out, donald trump's election team had sent an e-mail -- because i was lied to and thrown out.
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it confirmed that legislators were acting in secret. he says he already testified a year ago. now he's being asked to testify twice more in front of both dwrand juries operating in fulton county. what does all that tell you? >> it's not clear to me whether george based on his timeline testified before the special grand jury that released its report. it mae be they need to therefore call him back because he wasn't seen by that special grand jury and therefore those voting on an indictment need to hear his firsthand account and seeing a bunch of fake electors do what is required under georgia law, which is to meet in the capitol and vote and sign that certificate which they tried to do but obviously did not succeed. >> so charlie, polling, we saw this yesterday, they've shown trump's legal troubles have not hurt him. may have helped him in the primary race. he's so far ahead. but take a listen to what one
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desantis supporter said. he said we've got to find some judge in florida that will indict desantis quick to close this indictment gap. anytime someone is being persecuted, their camp rallies to their defense. we have charlie frozen. one more question as we are waiting for these indictments. we started with the whole idea of the communication versus coordination what would you expect if we see an indictment come down today from jack smith. are we going in order here? >> are we going in order? that's an interesting question. i don't think there is any order and part of what i think it's
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important for us to convey to our viewers is that a, this is unprecedented and b, there are no rules. if jack smith charges first and willis later, i expect there will be some conversation among them. at the end of the day, they're not ultimately in charge of the trial schedule. who is? the judges overseeing each of their cases. in jack smith's case, there is no indictment yet. we can't say to which judge that will be assigned and the same is true of fani willis. there are a lot of moving pieces and we just have to wait and see. lisa, charlie, thanks so much. a new hearing for the armorer who is charged in connection with the rust movie shooting. the additional charges she now faces 20 months into that investigation and why her lawyers say it's retaliatory and vindictive. y 'sit retaliatory ad vindictive (♪♪) astepro allergy, steroid free allergy relief that starts working in 30 minutes,
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final jury deliberations are underway for the tree of life synagogue shooter who killed 11 people who had gathered to worship back in 2018. the jury's deciding if robert bowers should get life in prison or the death penalty. two months ago, he was found guilty on 63 charges including dozens of hate crimes and civil rights offenses. his defense lawyers offered a guilty plea on all counts in exchange for life in prison without the possibility of release, but federal prosecutors
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rejected that offer. if the jury reaches a verdict today, the sentencing hearing would be tomorrow. a new jersey judge just heard from attorneys in the case against rust film weapons handler, hannah gutierrez reed. the judge ruled to have charges thrown out claiming extrajudicial statements made to the press would taint a future jury pool. steve patterson is following this for us. criminal defense attorney and msnbc legal analyst, danny is here. what's the latest from court, steve? >> this hearing wrapped up about 30 minutes ago. very important information pertaining to this sanctity of this case. the armorer onset of that movie, she is responsible for any ammunition, any of the weapons, any of the props that wind up in the movie. somehow, live ammunition ended
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up in the colt 45 that was fired onset which is why there has been so much focus on her mental state including an additional charge of tampering with evidence. we're not talking about her moving around one of those weapons. it is the allegation that she gave a bag of narcotics to somebody following a police interview was sort of the outside allegation of reckless behavior onset. that she was drinking, smoking on off days or on nights following shooting during the movie shoot and that she may have been the quote is likely hungover on the day that bullet went into the chamber. the defense team, her defense team has argued ever since that those allegations are false. that they haven't had basis in fact and that witnesses that are supposed to testify to that have yet to testify. the judge said the probably cause the sanctity of the original, should remain in tact.
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>> not picking one over the other but she did say she's conducting an independent investigation and there's no reason not to believe her as she's finding more and more information out. so i'm denying that on prosecutorial authority. >> so the court proceedings will move forward with a preliminary hearing that could come as early as next week. >> so danny, for people who got most of their legal knowledge perhaps watching episodes of law and order, they might say well, is what the judge was saying that the prosecution can just keep looking and looking and looking even if they don't have necessarily what would seem like a strong basis? what was that? >> it's just like the judge says. it's prosecutorial discretion. they have the i guess the right for lack of a better word, to continue looking in that area and also the defense's motion to throw the case out because of extrajudicial statements was not likely to win, but more than
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anything, you preserve it, put it on the record and maybe use it to fight another day. but also as to some of the allegations, it's very interesting. if the prosecution wants to proceed with allegations that the armorer may have been hungover, well, technically, people have a different definition of hangover than the medical definition. medical definition is as the blood alcohol content approaches zero. it's medically defined as not drunk, not intoxicated. so while we may never know, because there was no breath or blood test, allegations even if she admitted she was hungover, that might be evidence she was not intoxicated but i caution that plenty of medical studies show that your motor skills and cognitive abilities are impacted by hangover. as if i needed to tell you and other people that. anyone who has arguably experienced a hangover, probably knows that cognitive abilities decline. didn't need a scientific test to tell them that.
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that would still be in play but doesn't mean she was intoxicated even if she felt she was hungover. >> at the heart of this, is it that obviously a live round got into that gun. who is responsible for that? is that the heart of what they're looking at here? hungover or not. who was responsible for making sure that there was no live ammunition onset? >> right. we looked back, i at least looked back to the case of brandon lee, who was a famous actor who was killed in an incident where law enforcement authorities concluded essentially that the negligence or the bad actions of a lot of people spread out through the the chain of custody resulted in this tragic accident. just like in this case, you have a lot of negligence that you could arguably say was distributed among a lot of different chains of custody when the firearm arrived in alec baldwin's hand. by the way, he's been since dismissed from the case, was
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arguably liable on two fronts. the person holding the firearm and some suggested that as the producer of the movie, that producers arguably didn't put enough safeguards in, maybe cut corners. those are allegations that have been throughout about reportedly. in a case like this, you have so much let's see bad things that happen along, distributed along a lot of different people. that's why it's going to be a difficult case to win. i've been critical of the prosecution in this case. they spent a year investigating it. charged baldwin then decided, oh, wait, we don't want to charge him but we want to go forward with the armorer. they haven't gotten their stories straight. this prosecution has had problems since the beginning. it will continue to have problems even if it makes it to trial. still a good probability of a not guilty verdict. >> thank you both so much. the desperate search for an american woman and her child kidnapped in haiti continuing as gang violence and killings there
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between may and mid july, at least 40 people abducted and 75 murdered. this case among others might signal the end of haiti's brief period of respite. i want to bring in host of msnbc's "andrea mitchell reports," andrea mitchell. also with us, caribbean correspondent from miami herald, jacqueline charles who reports on haiti. so, andrea, what's the latest on this case from the federal government? >> the president has been briefed, we know that. secretary of state blinken has congratulated kenya for considering, considering, taking on the role of leader of a multinational police force. and if that were to take place, which most likely would take place, it first has to be approved by the u.n. security council which as of today, this month, is led by our u.n. ambassador in the rotating presidency of linda thomas
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greenfield. haiti is in political shape, there were protests back in favor of her nurse and her child. protests against this kidnapping but the gangs have been rampant and since the president's assassination and all that took place two years ago, there's just, it's just been lawless. not only the poorest country in the hemisphere but really the most dangerous. country that i spent many years in on and off in the '90s when there was another u.n.-led police force there after the ouster of the former president and then he was brought back. it was civil strives and military coup. there have been so many problems but they did have free and fair election which was overseen by
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the u.n. that's of course what they're imagining might take place but they've got a long way back. >> thank you so much for that. and speaking of people who know haiti very well, jacqueline, you did an embed with the secretary of state in charge of law enforcement for haiti in the biden administration. what are you hearing and what is likely going on on the ground? the chances of locating the mother and child and freeing them? >> a lot of attention is being paid to this particular kidnapping, but we have been seeing a rap in kidnapping for several weeks. in fact, the former head of the elected counsel, also a journalist, was kidnapped over a month ago and is still being held. we also have a prominent gynecologist in the ministry of health. he is still being held in captivity. so you're right. after a brief respite, we're starting to see more kidnappings
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and a surge in violence. last week, a number of people were forced out of their homes and took up refuge at the u.s. embassy. after that, the u.s. ordered the evacuation of nonessential personnel and on the same day, this american woman and her child were kidnapped. in these cases that involve american citizens, you have the fbi that are involved but rarely does anybody get out without having to pay a ransom. so it becomes an issue now of just negotiating, hoping that the gangs have made contact with the family. hoping the person being held stays calm then from there on end, that's what you see. in some cases, the haitian police have been able to secure the release but this is only if they haven't been taken into one of these expansive slums. right now, we do not know where she's being held. it's unclear which gang has grabbed her and there's a lot of debate about when this happens to you, do you go to the media
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or work behind the scenes because once the gangs realize your value, the price and ransom goes up and they are asking as much as a million dollars in some cases. >> haitians have been protesting in the sweltering heat, demanding the freedom of these u.s. citizens. the ap reports that one sign read quote, she is doing good work in the community. free her. the local resident said the community has significantly benefitted from the charity founded by her husband. as we talk about the deepening violence, a number of humanitarian groups are closing their doors in haiti, including doctors without borders. fair to say, the more help that's needed, the less it's available as a result of what we're seeing here. >> yeah, that has been the sad tragedy in this. we have a country where 4.9 million people are in need of humanitarian aid. almost half the population is going hungry and the people who
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have been there who have been giving this assistance, they just can't manage anymore because today, they, too, are targeted. we're no longer seeing where okay, you're providing good work in the community. you're not going to be kidnapped or a victim of violence. everyone today, rich, poor, local, foreigner, is potentially a victim of these gangs. >> thank you so much. we appreciate you coming on the program. the allegations against the bank tied to jeffrey epstein, next. bank tied to jeffrey epstein, next -dad, what's with your toenail? -oh, that...? i'm not sure... -it's a nail fungus infection. -...that's gross! -it's nothing, really... -it's contagious. you can even spread it to other people. -mom, come here! -don't worry about it. it'll go away on its own! -no, it won't go away on its own. it's an infection. you need a prescription. nail fungus is a contagious infection. at the first signs, show it to your doctor...
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want to update you on our breaking news. the grand jury in the special counsel's election interference probe, this is washington, d.c., appears to have left for the day. i want to bring in nbc justice reporter, ryan riley outside the courthouse. i understand maybe there's also been a sighting of jack smith, the special prosecutor. tell us what's been going on since last we spoke, ryan. >> reporter: sure. i think the most critical thing about the grand jury news is that we have not seen the jury foreperson leave. so that means that theoretically the grand jury could have left and the grand jury foreperson stayed behind with a prosecutor and brought this before a judge either has already happened or will be happening in terms of returning the indictment in
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quote unquote open court. we're sitting on a federal magistrate's office here. there's an ongoing hearing unrelated to any of this. it was actually another january 6th case just on the docket. some questions about the detention of a suspect who was arrested. and charged in the charlesville incident several years ago. one of the individuals who was carrying that tiki torch. then federal authorities alleged stormed the u.s. capitol while having his face covered. that's what's happening in the federal magistrate judge's courtroom right now, but it could be happening in these other courtrooms. it could have come back and not returned. we're just sitting and waiting to see if there are signs this federal grand jury that's been hearing evidence in this jack smith investigation for months now has actually ended up returning an indictment. separately, jack smith has arrived back at his office,
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which is in another part of washington, d.c. here. i believe our cameras caught him driving into the garage at the special counsel's office there. so some movement we think from jack smith there. and sort of just in a wait and see posture i think for the remainder of this afternoon. >> presumably they've worked out what they're going to do. we don't know what they're going to do or how they're going to let us know. jack smith is there. who are the possibilities again? >> reporter: so i mean i think the most likely thing we could see is just a grand jury indictment handed out. i think the way this would be handled and if we look at the last time around that they handled this is in that case, it was initially sealed. but then the next day, they unsealed it and put out a press release and jack smith made a
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statement. so i think we can expect something similar from jack smith's office this time around if history is any indicator. we might see more of a sped up timeline because i think they want to fill that information gap potentially we saw last time around. they gave the former president such a heads up last time that he was able to sort of fill the air waves with the indictment said and it's still under seal. i think that amount of time, donald trump gets to go out and sort of spin this in his own way is something that would be probably fruitful for the american public in general who it's important to see the charges, see what evidence they can lay out against trump here. they are really pretty good at putting together these compelling narratives that sort of tell a story of the broader potential conspiracy here if you end up seeing charges come out
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of this grand jury here soon. >> could be a long afternoon for you, ryan riley. thank you for that. we want to also bring folks up to date on what's happening in atlanta where we've been telling you we are also waiting to see what the grand jury does and what fani willis decided to do. she has two grand juries operating there but on a separate topic, the sheriff, who is one of the officials who's been involved in security around the courthouse given the concerns, the threats that we know have happened surrounding this case was holding a press conference. got asked some questions. among the things he got asked about was indeed the security. let's take a listen to what fulton county sheriff patrick la bat had to say in response to a question from our reporter there. take a listen. >> we were very proactive. we had an opportunity to watch and send teams, major butler and his team, to new york. had an opportunity to send them to miami. take a lessons learned piece and understand really what we do,
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how we do it and how we do it differently from those two specific agencies. our focus is to be proactive about security. our goal is to have all of the services that we normally have open and operational but at the same time, create a safe environment for those that we actually service. the orange barricades have gotten more attention than anything else in history of the sheriff's office and so to that extent, it is part of a proactive plan to make sure that again, what we learned in miami is that we need to have a secure perimeter. that's just the beginning of the program. >> one more thing he had to say, i'm paraphrasing. it doesn't matter your status, we'll have mug shots ready for you. so we are waiting to see what happens there in atlanta as well. meantime, the u.s. virgin islands just accused jpmorgan chase of moving more than a million dollars in payments from
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jeffrey epstein to women or girls after the bank says it fired him as a client. cnbc's morgan brennan is here for today's cnbc on msnbc. morgan, tell us a little more about these accusations and the bigger case here. >> yes. and this case continues, chris. so in a new letter filed this week, lawyers from the u.s. virgin islands attorney general's office detailing more than 9,000 transactions paid out to epstein related accounts between 2005 and 2019 that were not disclosed during the court mandated evidence exchange window included in those allegations. the bank handling more than $1 million in payments from jeffrey epstein to quote girls or women after the bank terminated epstein as a client. so in a statement to cnbc about the filing, jpmorgan said quote, there's no proof this is accurate. the letter though accuses the banking giant of 235i8ing to disclose the payments until after the end of discovery.
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the period when both sides exchange evidence. by way of background, this suit from the u.s. virgin islands accuses jpmorgan of facilitating and financially benefitting from epstein's trafficking of young women during the years when he was a bank client. jpmorgan denies wrong doing. it says it cut ties to him in 2013 but this filing from monday, it challenges that timeline. keep in mind the bank conducted its own internal investigation mere months after he was arrested in 2019. the virgin islands is asked the judge to require jpmorgan to share all of its information and research that is tied to that specific company probe. so now we will see what happens over the next couple of days. chris? >> thank you for that. that's going to do it for us this hour. join us for chris jansing reports every weekday from 1:00 to 3:00 p.m. eastern. our coverage continues after the break. 0 p.m. eastern our coverage continues after the break.
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hi, everyone. thanks for being here. is today the day? the grand jury hearing evidence in the special counsel's election interference probe appear to have left for the day. now jurors had been meeting on the third floor of the d.c. federal courthouse since this morning and were spotted leaving around 2:00 p.m. so what could that mean for a potential indictment? and how soon could we hear from prosecutors or the former president himself? we are live outside the courthouse. it has been exactly two weeks since donald trump announced he received a target letter from jack smith's office but now he says an indictment is coming any day. so what could that look like? and could jack smith make a public statement like he did last time? i'll ask our legal experts in a moment. and an indictment dropping doesn't necessarily mean smith's team is finished. members of trump's
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