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conviction of donald trump. >> vaughn hillyard, david jolly, thanks to you. thanks to all of you for being with us today. we'll be back tomorrow. that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." remember, follow us online, on facebook and on twitter. lindsey reiser is in for "chris jansing reports" right now. i'm lindsey reiser in for chris jansing live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. the first skirmish in the much larger legal battle surrounding donald trump's attempts to overturn the election come down to the wire. while his attorneys have been quiet ahead of today's 5:00 p.m. deadline, the former president has taken the opposite approach, blasting the doj, the judge and the special counsel on social media. prosecutor is already seeking what trump can say, is he making
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their case for them. new tension in fulton county as da fani willis weighings the timing of a possible fourth donald trump against donald trump. take a look at this house collapsing into a river in alaska. it's just one result of record-breaking b glacial flooding in juneau. the floodwaters forcing residents to flee and officials to declare a state of emergency. that's one example of the severe weather hammering the country today. we'll start with donald trump's legal team on the clock. they have just a few more hours to respond to the doj's request to restrict what the former president can publicly disclose about evidence. special counsel jack smith made the request after trump wrote on social media, quote, if you go after me, i'm coming after you. here is what trump attorney alina habba had to say about the request for the protective
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order. >> this is jack smith coming out as the victim here, saying it's more him being afraid. the protective order in terms of witness testimony, exhibits, those aren't necessarily things we've ever disagreed to. i want to be clear that doesn't seem to be an issue for my client. what seems to be an issue is jack smith isn't liking the discomfort of the attention from what he brought. >> i want to bring in harry litman, constitutional law professor at yums and tara setmayer senior adviser for the lincoln project. we know typically jum has his defense lawyers try the case in the court of public opinion, on tv. is this a defense we'll see in the courtroom as well. >> 100%. understand what this protective order is about. they're saying we want to give you all the information you're entitled to now and more, but it's for a special purpose, so
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you can prepare your case. it's not so you can take it around the country and try to use it for campaign purposes. you can have it all now just as we did in mar-a-lago, and the resistance is because he's refusing to say he won't do just what he's not permitted to do with it, for example, what he did in the last couple days with pence, trying to call him out and focus on him or that really crazed, unsettled, all-caps tweet from social media. this is for him to have to prepare his case, not to try to vilify doj in the public campaign. >> trump argued today this order would infringe on his right to free speech here. what do you make of that? what do you make of this fight? does it tell us something about the legal battles to come? >> i think he's going to try to
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frame everything in terms of free speech. you know, smith has been very craftsmanlike in putting together the indictment. it has nothing to do with free speech. he's charged with making unlawful agreements, agreements to do unlawful things. that's a conspiracy. you achieve them with words just as if i say to you let's rob a bank, it would be with words. it's a deeply muddled idea that it's somehow about free speech. i think you'll see that theme even if it doesn't hunt specifically, track the law. that theme will be pounded again and again including on the campaign trail. >> tara, in the court of public opinion, if this is a sign of things to come, do you get a sense that democrats and moderates need to be more vocal and sort of play the same game here that republicans are doing on the airwaves? or do you think just stay out of it and let them do it?
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>> they absolutely have to push back with the facts and the truth. right now the republican party has accepted a false bargain of being completely complicit in the rants of an unhinged man who is attacking the foundations of our law and order in this country. you can't sit back and respond in silence. otherwise the loudest voices in the room will get the most attention. unfortunately these are people who believe in conspiracy theories and lies. this is a purposeful tactic. donald trump knows this. his only defense is in a court of public opinion, not a court of law. he's been unsuccessful with these attempts in a court of law in the past. he was unsuccessful with his attempts to claim election fraud across the country, 60-plus cases defeated. you saw what rudy giuliani did in the court of public opinion in 2020, trying to put out falsehoods. he didn't say those things in court because there are consequences to that in a court of law. this absolutely needs to be a
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full-on offense of the truth here by surrogates, nothing the president of the united states should get involved, but he has plenty of surrogates, plenty of law scholars like harry litman and others who are out here speaking the truth, educating the american people. donald trump is counting on the fact that the american people aren't educated in what the court system works and what the law says. so far he's been successful with the rart. that's not the entire american populous or the voters in this country. they need to be informed about the truth. >> harry, trump's attorney john lauro was on all the major sunday shows yesterday. the crux of his argument seems to be that trump believed the election was fraudulent and he had won and he had reason to believe that because of what his lawyers were telling him or what he was hearing. here is what of that. >> the defense is quite simple, donald trump, president trump believed in his heart of hearts he had won that election. as any american sint had a right to speak out under the first
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amendment. mr. pence, his vice president, agreed with him there were anomalies and discrepancies in the election process, and mr. trump had every right to petition government and enforce his first amendment rights. that's why this indictment is an attack on the first amendment. the government, the biden administration would have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that president trump did not believe he won the election. they will never be able to do that. that's why this prosecution is so ill conceived. >> they will never be able to do that. harry, he said he believed it in his heart of hearts. time after time in this indictment we see instances in which jack smith writes about times that trump was told he lost, or even instances where he admitted he lost. does the prosecution have to go a step further and prove his frame of mind? how do they go about doing that? >> no, and they don't even have to go that far. by the way, lindsey, very good of you to add, the indictment includes not just everybody in
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the radio, all the grownups in the room telling him he lost, but also his acknowledgment that he had. it wouldn't matter. this is such a deeply muddled and kind of lousy argument to be made in the public sphere. if he believed he won, that's fine. what he shouldn't be able to do is unlawful things like substitute false electors or impede official proceedings. those things are the unlawful things. he agreed to do those. that means conspiracy. it has nothing to do with what's in has heart. moreover, the evidence is quite strong that he knew he lost. >> my colleague dasha burns talked with ron desantis and talked about strategy for this upcoming election. let's listen.
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>> if the election is a referendum on joe biden's policies and the failures that we've seen, and we're presenting a positive vision for the future, we will win the presidency and have a chance to turn the country around. if, on the other hand, the election is not about january 20th, 2025, but january 6, 2021, or what document was left by the toilet at mar-a-lago, if it's a referendum on that, we're going to lose. >> it sort of feels, tara, there's a just let's move on. is that a sense you get as well? is that a losing strategy because for so many voters it is more -- it is about so much more. >> if this becomes a referendum on the 2020 election or january 6th, absolutely republicans lose. democrats are saying, sure, you want to relitigate the past? let's do it. democrats need to embrace president biden's record. he has a positive economic
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record to run on. he cleaned up the mess that donald trump left in his wake, and it's important for them to embrace this and not shy away from it. do not let the republicans co-opt the message here. they need to feel comfortable going on offense. republicans will lie and steal and cheat and say whatever they want in order to arouse certain feelings of fear, whether it's based in truth or not. if ron desantis -- he's actually right about that. but that's not the message that he's really put out from the very beginning. he's afraid to say trump's name. most of the republican primary candidates afraid to take trump on directly about this, and they shouldn't be. either the party believes in law and order and the constitution or they don't, or they buy to the consult of personality that is trump that has destroyed the party and could destroy our democracy if he wins again. they need to make that decision. so far they've shown they don't have the backbone to do it. >> before we let both of you go, harry, one of the most
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fascinating aspects is that members of trump's inner circle may end up being witnesses for the prosecution. john lauro suggested even if trump pressured pence, it would be a technical violation of the constitution, not a crime. he then said this. >> i cannot wait, i cannot wait until i have the opportunity to cross-examine mr. pence, because what he will do is completely eliminate any doubt that mr. trump, president trump firmly believed that the election irregularities led to inappropriate results. >> what do you make of that, that he can't wait to cross-examine mike pence and also a technical violation of the constitution is not a violation of a criminal statute? >> let's take the second which is kind of stunning. i don't know what technical violation means, but it's a violation of the constitution to substitute electors that are not the duly elected one.
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it's a violation of the constitution and the laws of the united states to try to put off proceedings it's not trump to pence, although it's kind of ironic, he did everything but put a gun to pence's head and really insight people to put him on the gallows. leaving that aside, what he did was agree to try to delay the proceedings. and also what he did was to try to actually change the phony electors. that's just against the law six ways to sunday. by the way, on his bravado, pence, because he is a sort of reluctant to go too strong against his former boss will be an effective witness. it will be clear he's telling the truth. he took contemporaneous notes, one of the few new details in this indictment. he's going to really kill them especially with some of the early conversations. no way around it. >> tara setmayer, thank you.
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harry will be back with us after the break. earlier today a judge dismissed donald trump's attempt to countersue e. jean carroll for defamation after the author won a $15 million suit against him in may. after carroll said, oh, yes, he did, when he was asked about the jury's finding that trump had not raped her but was liable for sexual assault. the judge ruled that, quote, her statement was substantially true and trump failed to show malice. security preparations under way in fulton county, georgia, as district attorney fani willis prepares a fourth possible indictment for donald trump. what law enforcement learned from earlier trump indictments in manhattan and miami when we're back in 60 seconds. ts in manhattan and miami when we're back in 60 seconds try boost® high protein with 20 grams of protein for muscle health versus 16 grams in ensure® high protein. boost® high protein. now available in cinnabon® bakery-inspired flavor. learn more at boost.com/tv
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possible fourth indictment tied to election interference in georgia. with orange barricades already up in the city of atlanta, the sheriff's department is upping security today, closing the streets surrounding the fulton county courthouse ahead of possible charges in the case. i want to bring in nbc's blayne alexander from outside the courthouse, and also back with us, harry litman. >> blayne, the sheriff and fani willis have both seen an increase in threats. what can you tell us about the increase in security that you're seeing? >> reporter: we know this is something that was fully expected, lindsey, the fact they've upped their security today, we could likely see more before we see an announcement of charging decisions here. that's not at all unexpected. as you mentioned, both the d.a. and the sheriff said they received a number of threats, dozens of threats over the past few months. we've even obtained some of the letters that fani willis says she's received, some including
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racist remarks. they're not surprised about that either. we know as we get closer to seeing any decisions, we will likely see the security increase. as it stands right now, no cars are allowed to drive down this street. general traffic has been shut off in front of the courthouse, there are barricades on both sides, and also barricades on both sides of the courthouse to at least slow the flow of traffic coming in and out. i think as we're getting closer we know we're right now in the middle of a period that fani willis, the district attorney, has outlined as a waiting period, or at least strong indicated this is the time when we'll hear charging indictments from her. we know she's preparing to present her case before a grand jury. we know subpoenas have gone out for witnesses to testify before that grand jury. what we don't know is when she's actually going to present the case. we've been talking with some of the people who have been subpoenaed, they haven't received the 48-hour notice.
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that's crucial because that will give us a closer pinpoint on what we can expect fani willis to go before the grand jury. that hasn't happened yet. so possibly the end of this week or next week. >> blayne, thank you so much for the latest on your reporting on the ground. harry, u want to play a little more of that interview with trump's attorney john lauro about that infamous phone call in georgia. >> that wasn't a threat at all. what he was asking for is for raffensperger to get to the truth. he believed there were in excess of 10,000 votes that were counted illegally. what he was asking for is the secretary of state to act appropriately and find these votes that were counted illegally. >> find. >> hold on one second. that wednesday an aspirational ask. once again, that's core political speech. >> harry, in the indictment, though, you see moment after moment of the former president putting pressure on mike pence
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to reject legitimate votes for biden in 2020. in a tweet saying "do it, mike." in a phone call the indictment says he again pressured pence. and in a quote, we are demanding of vice president pence. is are prosecutors looking to show this is more of a directive than an aspirational ask? >> the short answer is no. with raffensperger he basically threatens him as the chief law enforcement officer in the federal system with jail. mike pence is not the victim of the crime that trump was charged with. raffensperger is not the victim of the crime. the victims are the et voers of georgia or maybe the members of congress. the crime again is trying to delay the proceedings past the date and time, which he actually
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succeeded in doing, or giving phony electors' names. there's nothing lauro says, that's trying to put lipstick on a pig. there's no way of calling that political speech. that's just an effort to do unlawful things. the whole thing is really a kind of misdirection. it's interesting and a little surprising he's trying it so much in the press. i guess that's consistent with trump's overall strategy. his really only hope here is to win the election and the call the case off. >> politico points out that the potential weakness of the fulton county case is that essentially a local prosecutor charging a former president with election interference would be unprecedented in american history. do you see this as a challenge to overcome? >> i think there will be a lot of challenges in this one in particular. for one, we know from the sort of 15-minute tour of fame of the former foreperson, going to charge 12, 15 people, some national figures, some local
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georgia figures. there's a chance she'll use rico which is a hard thing to say to the jury. there are difficult issues because in contrast to the other state court case in new york, trump here is acting as president. so there may be difficult immunity or federal/state issues. i think it's unlikely that the case she'll unveil by the end of the month will get caught up longer in the courts and take longer to come to a resolution than basically anything else that's out there. >> so that said, and i've got to be quick with you, you said trump's ultimate goal would be to win the election and make this go away. because this would be a state charge, would he be able to? >> yes and no my prediction is the supreme court would say you've got to hold it in abeyance while he's president if he's president. so four more years anyway. he's 77 now. >> harry litman, thank you. >> thank you. still ahead, afl months of
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israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu says he intends to scale down his sweeping and controversial court overhaul n. an interview with bloomberg, netanyahu said he'll move ahead with one additional part in his overhaul plan, remaking the committee that selects junls. as for the other aspects of the plan which have ignited months of furious protests across
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israel, netanyahu says he now thinks they shouldn't be legislated at all. it's the first showing that he's possibly ready to concede to the opposition. raf sanchez is following the surprising turnaround from tel aviv. >> reporter: there two ways of looking at this latest announcement from prime minister netanyahu. the first is that he does appear to be admitting he's scaling way back his judicial overhaul. what started as a broad range of proposed laws has now been reduced to just two. the first is the legislation that passed two weeks ago which limits the supreme court's ability to challenge government decisions, and the second one is a proposed bill that would give the government more control over the committee that opinion points judges to the supreme court. now, that perspective, netanyahu seems to be taking a step back. the second perspective, even if
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just those two laws pass, it would be an absolute revolution in terms of israel's judiciary. the protesters say these two laws on their own would still represent a major threat to democracy. they would remove the supreme court as a significant check on the power of the government. prime minister netanyahu says these are necessary reforms that would move power out of the hands of unelected judges, and back into the hands of elected politicians. now, this proposed bill he's talking about, it would give the government more control over appointing supreme court judges. he says that would make the decision in israel more similar to the united states where the president appoints judges, the judge is then confirmed by the supreme court. that bill wouldn't go up in front of parliament until at least october. before then there is a major hearing scheduled in the supreme court on september 12th. that is a date all of israel has on its calendar. all 15 of the supreme court judges will hear this case, the first time in israel's history
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that all 15 are sitting together, and they will decide whether or not to strike down the legislation that weakens their own power to challenge the government. if they do strike it down, it would be the first time in israeli history that the court has struck down what's called a basic law. that is a semi sconce tushl law. when i spoke to prime minister netanyahu last week, he told me he hopes it does not come to that, that it does not reach a point where the supreme court is striking down basic laws. he says that would be comparable to the american supreme court striking down a u.s. constitutional amendment which, as i pointed out to him, is not really a fair comparison. u.s. constitutional amendments can only be made by consensus. two-thirds of the house, two-thirds of the senate, three-quarters of the state, where his legislation passed by a single majority. netanyahu would also not commit in explicit terms to abiding by the supreme court's decision which is causing a lot of
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concern here in israel among people who fear he is threatening a constitutional crisis. back to you. >> raf sanchez, thank you. benjamin netanyahu's court overhaul along with his progressive campaign have divided capitol hill, potentially driving a wedge between the u.s. and israel. for more on that, let's bring in punchbowl news co-founder and msnbc political contributor jake sherman. when eye zach herzog addressed congress last month, he said he was well aware of the imperfections of israeli democracy. he also went on to say the momentous debate in israel around this judicial pain is painful and deeply unnerving, highlighting the cracks within the hole. we know president biden personally asked netanyahu to slow down the overhaul. how are lawmakers on the hill reacting. >> a couple of different things worth pointing out here, number one, it's deeply divided supporters of israel in the united states congress. even though many won't say it on
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the record. there's deep trepidation of what lawmakers see as a massive hoefr all. hakeem jeffries is in israel today with a group of about two dozen other house democrats on an annual trip to the middle east and to israel. so this is -- it comes at an interesting time to say the least. i think if netanyahu is invited to washington by the biden administration, it's almost certain that kevin mccarthy is going to invite him to address the house of representatives. if biden does not invite netanyahu, mccarthy says he'll do it on his own. that will be the next chapter. >> another big topic right now is a possible deal to normalize relations between israel and saudi arabia. netanyahu said to bet on deepening ties wean the two nations even if they don't recognize each other. the saudis what a firm security concern by the u.s., where if they were attacked by iran, the
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u.s. could come to its defense. that would require senate approval. is there an appetite on that on capitol hill? >> there's an appetite for little on capitol hill. i will say in my conversations with biden administration officials and folks in israel, there is an extreme desire to get a saudi/israel deal done. it's a huge deal and it would be a huge victory for joe biden. it's only complicated by the fact that this administration embraces the abraham accords that were cut by the trump administration. i think there's a real thirst to get this done. >> jake sherman, thank you. >> thank you. record flooding over the weekend in alaska is the latest in a string of extreme weather events battering the united states. how people from coast to coast are coping with the unrelenting rain, heat and wind. you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc. "chris jg
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today another bout of extreme weather is bearing down on the nation, bringing torrential rain, dangerous wind, large hail and tornadoes from philly to atlanta. already storms knocked out power to thousands in kentucky and indiana, taking the roof off of this building. we also saw unbelievable images out of alaska this weekend after a glacial break caused
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record-breaking floods, pulling entire houses down into the raging waters. then there's the heat wave still scorching the south prompting another round of temperature warnings today. nbc's pris silly thompson is live in hughes on. also joined by michelle grossman, nbc meteorologist. folks, day after day, week after week, folks must be so tired of it? >> reporter: absolutely, lindsey. it's about 95 degrees. you see some folks out there enjoying the pool. it's way less than this morning before the sun came up as we inch into the triple-digit temperatures. we're seeing cooling centers opening including here at the ymca so folks who don't have adequate air conditioning can come here and cool off. this is the situation for tens of millions of people across the south who seem to be dealing with this endless string of heat alerts. to give you a sense of some of the record-breaking temperatures
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we've seen this summer, we've got el paso, the month of august of 112. new orleans set ten new record highs since the start of june. here in houston, we are on our eighth straight day of triple-digit heat. we've been out speaking to folks with how they're coping with this. some folks telling us they're spending less time outside this summer. take a listen. >> i'm a native houstonian, i've lived here for i guess the last 12 years, 13 years. this is the hottest summer that i can recall. it's also becoming very dry. actually we're heading home because i'm getting a headache because i start to get one after you're getting out in the heat and start to get dehydrated. it's been hard for us. i find myself outdoors a lot less than in previous summers. >> reporter: of course, the other thing that's always on folks' mind during moments like this is the power grid.
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they did issue a weather watch yesterday and today saying they are expecting record demand but they do believe they'll be able to meet that demand. already we've seen electric companies putting out statements asking folks to conserve, turn the thermometer up two or three degrees, not running the big appliances during the really hot hours so hopefully everyone can maintain power, stay in the ac, stay cool and stay safe as we continue to bear these incredibly hot days across the south. >> priscilla, you and your crew get inside as well and cool off. michelle, where will today's storms hit the hardest? >> we're already seeing them. seeing them in the east really, cities along the i-95 core, d.c., philadelphia, baltimore into portions of the southeast. you can clearly see where the cold front is. we have the heat. we have the humidity. those are two ingredients. we're already starting to see them ignite.
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typically the daytime heating gets things going. we're already seeing that. we'll be watching this throughout the afternoon, even into the early nighttime hours as well. there's the cold front. as we go throughout time, we've got tornado watches, severe thunderstorm watches. the pink is a tornado watch. that includes d.c., also down to the southwest, atlanta under a severe thunderstorm watch. we could see winds gusting over 65 miles per hour, some hail. 87 million americans under a severe weather risk which those really gusty winds that will bring down trees and power lines. we already have power outages. we're going to lose air conditioning in some homes. where you see the red, d.c., that's a moderate risk. we haven't seen a moderate risk in d.c. in the last decade. they could see all sorts of risks with the chance of the winds and also some hail. heavy rainfall, we're concerned about that. we could see two inches falling
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per hour. we're looking at localized totals over 4 inches. that's the stormy side. we'll continue to watch that all through out this afternoon into this evening. then we have the heat side that priscilla was talking about. 72 million americans across the south. once again looking at dangerous heat from southern california into the southwest. the south central states, the gulf coast states, the southeast and up into the carolinas. we have excessive heat warning. that's the hot pink, phoenix, waco, dallas, houston, monroe, birmingham, jacksonville. a lot of cities under this extensive heat warning. temperatures soaring into the triple digits once again. that's 5-15 degrees above what is typical for this time of year. lindsey, we could see records falling once again. dallas, 104 today. the record there is 104. that will probably fall. we'll see spots feeling like 115 in places. >> michelle grossman, thank you.
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next hour, beating the heat. we'll be live on the ground outside an elementary school in phoenix, arizona, where schools are keeping kids inside for recess, just one of the things they're doing trying to keep students cool as they head back to school. first, the last of four former minneapolis police officers charged in connection with the killing of george floyd just sentenced. what we know about how much time he'll serve. later, the end of the road. american trucking giant calling it quits. the impact the bankruptcy can have on you getting your packages delivered on time. you're watching "chris jansing reports" on msnbc. u're watchingg reports" on msnbc. which stands for skilled hands at work. from cutting hair, and mowing grass, to roasting marshmallows, he's got a grasp on what matters most. there's a story in every piece of land, run with us on a john deere tractor and start telling yours.
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i want to turn to a new and troubling nbc news investigation. at least 140 babies have died because of incidents linked to nursing pillows. the tragic deaths go all the way back to 207. the instances include mothers who fell asleep while breast-feeding and babies who suffocated while propped up on the pillow. joining us is nbc news national investigative reporter susie kim. i used one of these for my daughter, several, in fact. is it happening because people are using them incorrectly? what's going on here? >> in most of the cases we found, babies had been laid down to sleep or fell asleep while propped up on the pillows. that is against the warning
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labels placed on the products saying they should never be used for sleep or while infants are unattended. many of these pillows are advertised for uses other than nursing time. for tummy time, resting your baby. that's led some people to be concerned that that could encourage parents to leave babies in those positions unattended. that's why federal regulators are now likely to move forward very soon in the coming weeks with proposals to redesign some of these pillows to make them less inviting places to lay a baby down to sleep and have less tragic consequences as a result. >> so tragic indeed. the story is so eye-popping in terms of so many nursing mothers who use this. what are some of the basics here of what people need to know? in your reporting, did you find that there was sort of this other layer here of mom shaming. parents are tired. they do whatever they can to
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sleep and get their babies to sleep. what should we be taking away from this? >> absolutely. there are a lot of different important things for consumers to keep in mind. if you have a pillow like this or you're giving it to someone or trying to take care of an infant and have this pillow around, we talked to the american academy of pediatrics. their medical experts say, yes, you can use these pillows for breast-feeding. you can use them to help prop up a baby, to reduce arm and neck strain. after that, they said put it away. do not yaus it for propping a baby, for putting a baby to sleep, for any of these other uses because it's far too easy for parents, caregivers who are desperate for sleep, exhausted, pulled in so many different directions to leave the babies unattended even if it's just for 15 minutes. that could have the worst possible consequences. that's the message we've been hearing constantly from medical experts. that's why federal regulators
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say they want to step in to make it less inviting for caregivers to leave infants unintended in unsafe positions on these pillows. >> suzy khimm, to be continued thank you so much. one of the four in connecti with george floyd's murder was sentenced in a minneapolis courtroom to 57 months or nearly five years in prison. officer tou thao was found guilty of aiding and abetting for his role in floyd's death. shaq brewster is following this for us. what happened in court this morning? >> we saw judge peter cahill deliver the largest sentence that he could under state guidelines, with that 57 months in prison, just under about five years which was larger and more than what prosecutors were even asking for in court. prosecutors even today they explained their push to give him this sentence by saying that thao played an active role in
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george floyd's death. he was a self-described human traffic cone between the by standers who wanted to help and the officers, specifically derek chauvin who had his knee on george floyd's neck for nine minutes. he ignored them, despite his training. we did hear thao address the court for more than 20 minutes, largely with religious references, not taking any accountability, and that's what you heard judge cahill respond to before delivering his sentence. listen here. >> after three years of reflection, i was hoping for a little more remorse, regret, acknowledgment of some responsibility. and less preaching. i think your culpability is less than mr. chauvin, but well above
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mr. king and mr. lane. as an experienced senior officer, who was in the best position to save george floyd. >> today's sentencing putting an end to the criminal proceedings around george floyd's death. that has now resulted in the conviction of four officers in both state and federal court. again, all four officers are now behind bars. one important note here, despite that large sentence that you saw, it will only include about two additional months behind bars for former officer tou thao. that's because in minneapolis, or minnesota, rather, you serve about 2/3 of that total sentence behind bars, but again, you saw the list of officers there. you have sentences ranging from more than 20 years down to just about three years for the four officers. >> shaquille brewster, thank you. high alert, tensions are
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authorities in central morocco say at least 24 people were killed in a bus crash on sunday. the tragedy is one of the deadly es accidents in years for the country. it happened when a mini bus carrying passengers to a local market overturned. an investigation is underway into the cause. at some point, 55 miles separate alaska from russia, and u.s. military leaders are getting nervous after recent incursions from russian and chinese ships off the coast. nbc's correspondent, aaron gill
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crest has the latest. >> reporter: eleven military ships from russia and china patrolling the waters according to a statement from both of alaska's senators, adding four american navy destroyers were sent to shadow them until they left the area. >> what is the u.s. signaling to russia and china by putting destroyers in the water near their exercises. >> well, i think it was, again, an attempt to counter signal we're aware of their presence that we have military power in the region. >> reporter: the patrol never entered u.s. waters, confirming to nbc news that air and sea assets conducted operations to assure the defense of the united states and canada. it is the latest aggressive maneuver by the chinese military after this close call between chinese and american war ships in june in the taiwan strait and this chinese war plane dangerously close to an american military plane in may. lester holt visited norad in alaska, warned that alaska was
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on the front lines. >> any threats from russia, china from that part of the world into america they're first going to cross into alaska airspace. this is the front lines for america and canada. >> alaska's senators renewing calls for increased investment in military power in alaska. airn aaron gilchrist, nbc news . we have a lot to cover in our second hour of "chris jansing reports." so let's get right to it. at this hour, 179 minutes and counting down. that's how long former president donald trump's team of attorneys has to respond to the doj's request to limit what information trump and his legal team can share publicly about the special counsel's election interference investigation. what this all means for the days. plus, the changes outside the fulton county courthouse, ahead of a potential 4th indictment. what a significant security increases around the courthouse maygn
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