good day, i'm chris jansing live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. we don't yet know exactly when donald trump is going to trial, but we do know he won't go quietly. the former president coming out swinging in new hampshire, framing a routine request from prosecutors as a fight over free speech. what it tells us about the challenge ahead for the judge, the attorneys, and the legal system itself. plus, paradise going up in flames as wildfires ravage the lush landscapes of hawaii. authorities telling stories of tourists having to jump into the water to escape the smoke and fire. so what's causing it and how bad could things get? and an unelected democratic state prosecutor and an elected state democratic prosecutor in florida calls ron desantis a weak dictator after he suspends

her. the dereliction of duty the governor says the state attorney committed and where this whole fight goes from here. but we start with a pointedly defiant donald trump, very publicly challenging the judge and the system that could send him to prison for the rest of his life even with a critical decision in his d.c. case potentially just days away. now, trump was never one as a businessman or politician to heed outside advice, but even with the stakes so high, he's insisting he will fight any charges against him in front of the media and crowds of supporters however he wants to, even if the court orders him not to. >> crooked joe now wants the thug prosecutor, this deranged guy to file a court order taking away my first amendment rights so that i can't speak. so listen to this -- we don't want you to speak about the case. when we say i can't talk, i'd love to -- i will talk about it. i will. they're not taking away my first

amendment right. >> those remarks could test the legal limits of a protective order that's the subject of a friday hearing and could weigh heavily on judge tonya chutkin as she hears arguments about whether the former president can be trusted with government evidence, part of that evidence a previously unknown campaign memo, which was the first to lay out the plot to use fake electors to subvert the 2022 election. prosecutors are portraying it as a crucial link in how the trump team's efforts evolved into a criminal conspiracy. while all this is unfolding in d.c., nbc news has confirmed that fulton county d.a. fani willis is expected to present her case to a grand jury next week, potentially leading to trump's fourth indictment. a whole lot to get to. i want to bring in nbc's blayne alexander following the case in georgia. paul butler is a former federal

prosecutor, a law professor at georgetown and an msnbc legal analyst, and eugene robinson, "washington post" columnist and an msnbc political analyst. blayne, let's start with the latest on the timing in georgia. what can you tell us? >> reporter: well, next week, chris, that's what we're watching for, and we know that a number of ways. one, we're watching the subpoenas. we know that fani willis and her team have already started sending out subpoenas for the people they want to compel to come testify before the grand jury as she presents her case. now, what has not happened yet, though, is that those people who have received the subpoenas have not gotten a 48-hour notice. nbc news reviewed a copy of the subpoena. right now they're what's call on call essentially. so they're being told that they need to be on standby to testify anytime between now and the end of august, but they're also being told that they will get a 48-hour heads-up of when they need to actually make their way to downtown atlanta to speak before the grand jury. we spoke with two of those people today, and they confirmed they've not gotten that 48-hour

heads-up. she's not going to be presenting the case this week and that then puts us to next week. she sent a letter to law enforcement a couple of months ago saying you need to be ready for this period ending next week saying that security around the courthouse needs to be tiekt. she's got the majority of her staff working from home. they've already made some changes insides court he or she. we know, for instance, the magistrate court is having virtual hearings. all of that, of course, points to next week as being a very strong week of activity, and when she's going to present that case, chris. >> all right, blayne, thank you for that. so eugene, remember trump said not too long ago that if he's indicted again, it would clinch the nomination? i was thinking it wasn't too long before that, maybe a couple of months ago, we were talking about how trump's movement and the former president himself seemed to have lost some of his passion. well, take a look at this moment. here we go. >> how can my corrupt political opponent crooked joe biden put me on trial during an election

campaign that i'm winning by a lot but forcing me nevertheless to spend time and money away from the campaign trail in order to fight bogus, made up accusations and charges. that's what they're doing. i'm sorry, i won't be able to go to iowa today. i won't be able to go to new hampshire today because i'm sitting in a courtroom on [ bleep ] because his attorney general charged me with something. [ cheers and applause ] [ bleep ] [ bleep ] [ bleep ]. >> so look, eugene, donald trump is not unique in responding to the energy of a crowd, right, when you say something and they like it, chances are you're going to say it again. but what does this tell us about his campaign and potentially his legal defense going forward? >> well, i think the harder -- the more legal trouble he gets in, the harder he's going to run

for president because he wants to become president again so he can get himself out of legal trouble or at least the federal legal trouble. i think he sees that as ultimately his best defense, and you know, this defiance of the protective order, you know, paul butler is the expert on this, but it sounds to me just like noise for the maga base. there's -- he can -- he will continue to talk about the case based on all the information that's already out there, all the witnesses we know are out there from the january 6th committee hearings. he doesn't have to necessarily talk about secret information or witnesses that are revealed in discovery, but i think he wants to make a big show of being defiant, even though i don't think in terms of substance there's necessarily a lot there. >> all right, so let's go to the

expert, paul. you know what's going on. you know he's going out there and basically saying i'm going to say what i want to say. this is my right to say what i want to say. how do you see the hearing hearing shaping up? >> so it should be relatively standard because protective orders are common in most criminal cases. a criminal defendant has the right to see the prosecution's evidence before trial, but the public doesn't have a right to that evidence. so trump's lawyers actually agree that there should be restrictions on how trump can use the evidence, but they say what the special counsel is asking for is too broad. jack smith says that special limitations are necessary because of trump's threats on social media and at his campaign rallies, and look, we know that trump is known to go after prosecutors, judges, and witnesses, and there's an element of trump's fan base

that's used violence and contemplated attacks on people like vice president pence and speaker pelosi. it's important to understand that protective orders are different from gag orders. gag orders say that the parties can't talk about the criminal case at all. trump so far hasn't been subject to a gag order in any of his three prosecutions. >> one of the things we've seen, eugene, you know, when he had allegedly some materials that were marked classified that he should not have had at mar-a-lago, he liked to show them, right? what do you think the chances are or how challenging it will be for him if he gets information about this case that falls under this order not to say, they don't want me to tell you this, but? >> well, look, i think he will want to do that. the question is whether he will actually take that step, something that's clearly covered

by the protective order, something that's not public to this point, whether he really wants to take that step or not, which would be a direct challenge to the authority of not just judge chutkin, but the judicial system, and would sort of potentially force her hand towards something like a gag or whatever other sanctions she could apply. my guess is that his attorneys will try to keep him from doing that, and i don't know which way it will go. >> all right, paul, i want to dig into that new reporting from "the new york times." trump allies have argued, look, this false slate of electors, it's really just kind of a backup plan. they put it in place in case trump actually won some of his court challenges. they never thought it would pass muster with the supreme court. so is there any criminal liability potentially just in that, or how might it fit into

the larger case? >> it helps jack smith make his case, chris. when i prosecuted conspiracy cases, a lot of times i would tell jurors, look, don't look for a formal agreement where people plot on paper to commit a crime. you can infer a conspiracy from circumstantial evidence, but jack smith now has a document written by conspirator number 5 that lays out the whole criminal conspiracy to install fake electors and to pressure pence to violate the constitution. so this is smoking gun evidence of criminal intent by the co-conspirators. the lawyer who cooks up the scheme flat out states that the supreme court is going to reject it, and this makes trump's advice of counsel defense even more problematic. trump wasn't only told that the fake electors scheme was

unconstitutional by legitimate lawyers like the attorney general, the acting deputy attorney general, the white house counsel, even this whack lawyer who created the scheme acknowledged that it was probably illegal. >> paul, we also learned today that jack smith got a search warrant for trump's twitter account back in january. i'm looking at part of the key paragraph here. based on ex parte affidavits, the district court found probable cause to search the twitter account for evidence of criminal offenses. moreover, they found there were reasonable grounds to believe that disclosing the warrant to former president trump would seriously jeopardize the ongoing investigation. what do you make of that? >> it's evidence of a couple things. one, we still don't know all of the jack smith's evidence. he lays out a lot in that speaking indictment, but we should understand there's lots

of records including possible phone records and other social media stuff that we just don't know about. so really revealing on that front. >> paul butler, blayne alexander, eugene robinson, thank you all very much. and still to come, 15, that's how many billion dollar weather disasters federal experts say have hit the u.s. just this year so far. that's a record pace. plus, the strain on the nation's already stretched medical system from extreme weather. we're back in just 60 b seconds. [sneeze] (♪♪) astepro allergy, steroid free allergy relief that starts working in 30 minutes, while other allergy sprays take hours. with astepro's unbeatably fast allergy relief you can astepro and go! have fun, sis! ( ♪♪ ) ( ♪♪ ) can't stop adding stuff to your cart? get the bank of america customized cash rewards card,

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multiple structures have been destroyed forcing evacuations and causing power outages in several communities. the national weather service says hurricane dora passed south of the island chain and is partly to blame for those wind gusts up to 60 miles per hour. you can see them here blowing debris around. those treacherous winds complicating relief efforts and even downing helicopters as firefighters try to minimize the flame. and coming up in our next hour, i'll speak with a real estate expert who has been navigating and avoiding the flames on one of the hawaiian islands. he'll explain what it's like on the ground right now, so that's coming up. now, this is just one of many extreme weather battles playing out here in the u.s. millions of people under severe weather alerts today, the south with blazing heat from texas to florida, and it's where we could see 50 new record highs set by the end of saturday. austin already baking in an historic 32-day streak of 100

degree plus, and in miami, for the first time, well, they hit a heat index of 109 or higher for three straight days now. it is so hot that a hospital there has paused elective surgeries after an ac unit broke. one registered nurse tells the miami herald, quote, it's so hot you have to move patients or they risk dying. and this is what's left of one man's delaware home after two massive trees toppled over, smashing into the roof earlier this week. his message, you can't fight mother nature. >> it was so quick, so high pitched maybe soundi, so different that it was just hairs on the back of the neck and let's run to the basement. things come on quick, and that was absolutely we had seconds to react. >> i want to bring in nbc meteorologist michelle grossman. also with us is stuart stevens, chief strategist for mitt romney's 2012 presidential campaign and senior adviser to

the lincoln project. good to have both of you here. all right, michelle, i keep asking this question and i'm sorry about that, but when can we expect americans to start to get a bit of relief here? >> i know, chris, i wish i could give a better answer. we are going to see this weather pattern continuing. we are stuck in this stagnant pressure situation. it's all linked to climate change. things are slowing down, the oceans are warming, it's slowing down the jet stream. the jet stream is a really fast wind of air. we're seeing that kind of being pushed to the top. we're seeing this high pressure anchored in place. it's not budging. we're seeing it week after week, now month after month. we're looking records breaking pretty much daily, monthly, and all time records. no relief as this high pressure remains in place. we don't see it moving over the next several weeks. still today 52 million americans under heat alerts stretching from the southwest, the south central states into the southeast here. there are so many stories of just dangerous situations with households, no air-conditioning, even just stoplights melting in

this heat. we're looking at excessive heat warnings, austin down to corpus christi, new orleans, tallahassee, tampa, so many spots under an excessive heat warning, and that's because we're going to see temperatures into the 90s, once again into the 100s. you factor in the humidity. some spots feel like 117. that is just unbearable and down right dangerous. we're looking at records breaking once again today. dallas 105. you have been socked in with that heat. houston 103. 97 in tallahassee. the record there is 99. we're going to get pretty close. tomorrow we notice these temperatures don't budge. we're staying right around the 106 degree mark. houston you're hot too, 104, could tie or break the record of 104. corpus christi into the triple digits. same story to the southeast. the southeast, you've broken so many records, especially along the western coast of florida. orlando today 98 degrees. miami, 94, the record there is 96 degrees. you factor in the humidity, it's going to feel very, very hot. it's not just the southern

states. we're looking at the mid-atlantic really hot too into the mid-90s in richmond. stewart, let's talk politics. you've got july, the world's hottest month in recorded history. if we look at arizona, just an example, the death toll there confirmed is around 150 people, hundreds more deaths are under investigation. this is what "politico" reports. arizona republicans come back to the state capital earlier this month with, quote, a prayer to ease the scorching heat. i'm not going to question the power of prayer. i am going to ask you the question is there something more that can get done here? >> yeah, of course there is. look, this is sadly part of a larger pattern that the republican party has become the antiscience party and the antireality party. which is really to say it's not

a governing party. government exists to solve problems. you're talking about this heat wave down my native mississippi and across the south. i'm seeing it in vermont today where they just had the third, 100-year flood in 15 years that devastated the state, billions of dollars of damages. so of course a responsible government will address this and treat it as a reality and not make it a political issue. this is sort of a replay of what happened with the vaccine. >> you mentioned the damage, billions and billions of dollars. there's also a massive just disaster relief price tag. noaa says 15 separate billion dollar disasters to date this year. so yeah, it's a humanitarian issue. it's also clearly a fiscal issue. if not the argument that people are dying is going to work, could an economic argument move the needle, stewart? >> well, you know, ultimately,

one of the power centers in the republican party is the business community and its corporate donors, and this affects them tremendously. i'm sort of baffled why there's not more pressure from them on power figures in the republican party to take this seriously and address it. it is an economic issue. it is something that is going to continue to make businesses have to raise prices, to make it more difficult for businesses to have to cover expenses and costs for their own employees, and it's something that this is what we pay people in washington and in state legislatures to deal with, and yet, there is a reluctance on the republican party to admit that there is a problem. it's really just sort of astounding. >> stuart stevens, i have a feeling this will not be the last time we have a conversation about this unfortunately, but thank you for being with us. we appreciate it. >> thank you. and overseas, by the way, flooding unlike anything norway

has seen in decades. torrential downpours there are leading to massive evacuations as rivers swell to their highest levels in at least 50 years according to reuters. homes and businesses have been submerged by major landslides as a result of this storm, or shocking images like this, a mobile home just being swept away by raging flood waters. there it goes, just floating under a bridge completely smashing into it. "associated press" reports that authorities there are now considering blowing up a part of a dam at risk of bursting to prevent downstream communities from getting completely swamped. in fact, a police spokeswoman tells norwegian broadcaster nrk, when there is so much water, the worst-case scenario is a kind of tidal wave coming down the river. in eastern france nine people died after a fire ripped through a vacation home for adults with disabilities. firefighters are still searching for two others who are feared

dead. 17 people were evacuated including one hospitalized with serious injuries. in a statement, french president emmanuel macron described the home as ravaged. he said his thoughts are with the victims, the injured, and their families, and he thanked first responders. coming up, to impeach or not to impeach, the battle between right wing hard-liners and vulnerable centrist republicans with speaker mccarthy in the middle. the new and controversial demands the speaker is making. you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc. ing "chrg reports" only on msnbc

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for abortion rights advocates, ohio's special election results are another sign that the abortion issue has political staying power. voters rejected a ballot measure that would have made it harder to enshrine abortion rights in the state constitution, so now when the abortion amendment is on the ballot in november, it will be decided by a simple majority of voters, not the 60% threshold that conservatives wanted. both sides are predicting a bruising and expensive campaign leading up to yesterday's votes, special interest groups spent more than $26 million on ads. and there's new nbc reporting today on the growing divide between vulnerable house republicans and their hard right colleagues over whether to try to impeach president joe biden. speaker kevin mccarthy who has not scheduled a vote, continues to take shots at the president

repeating unproven allegations of financial misdeeds by biden and his family and saying he wants to see the president's financial records. >> america has a right to know if there was pay to play. i would think this president would want to clear that name rather rapidly. give us his bank statements. >> but a number of centrist republicans in biden won districts acknowledge there isn't enough evidence to impeach the president and their votes will be decisive. nbc's julie tsirkin is on capitol hill for us. who are these centrist republicans and how much leverage do they have when it comes to whether or not or how far impeachment may move? >> reporter: yeah, hey, chris, it's about a group of 18 moderate republicans who are politically vulnerable. they are represented, they were elected in these districts that president biden won in the very same year they were elected or the very same year they flipped their seats from blue to red, and they have a lot of leverage is the short answer because

mccarthy has a very slim majority. he can only afford to lose about four votes. obviously he's not expected to get any democrats to go along with something like this, but the images you're seeing on your screen of congressman mike lawler of new york, for example, congressman fitzpatrick of pennsylvania who's the cochair of the moderate bipartisan problem solvers caucus, they have all told my colleagues and myself that they are still questioning whether an impeachment inquiry can go forward because they don't know if there's enough evidence linking president biden to his son hunter's financial dealings. that is not stopping hard right members to push ahead and move forward in these relevant committees to continue to investigate these dealings. just a couple of hours ago this morning, we saw a memo from the house oversight committee which is examining the biden family's financial dealings saying they intend to push ahead with this link between the president and his son even though there's no actual proof that the president had benefitted financially from

his son's foreign business dealings. nonetheless, the white house pushing back on this saying this investigation is all political maintaining the president did nothing wrong. when you look at the schedule we have in the coming months, right, the end of september when congress returns, they have to fund the government. mccarthy has to appease the hard right, the center of his party, of course, and also make sure it's something that could pass in the senate. if impeachment and an impeachment inquiry is something that is going to appease the hard right, especially when it comes to getting them more investigative powers, we'll see if mccarthy continues to push towards this. >> julie tsirkin, it's always good to see you on the program, thanks, julie. >> i want to continue the conversation with the ranking member of the house rules committee, massachusetts democratic congressman jim mcgovern. "the new york times" reports that mitch mcconnell says cherry blossom -- come on, people.

i said two years ago when we had not one but two impeachments, once we go down this path it incentivizes the other side to do the same thing. impeachments ought to be rare adding this is not good for the country. good or not, you're there, you're on the hill. you've been talking to folks. what are the chances there is at least a formal inquiry here. >> look, what i've learned is that when donald trump tells kevin mccarthy to jump, he asks how high. and he does everything that donald trump asks him to do. if donald trump wants to move forward with an impeachment inquiry, that's what you can expect kevin mccarthy to do. he has no spine. he's been a pathetic sad individual as speaker of the house. and i'm interested to hear about the moderates who are raising some concerns. i didn't know there were any moderates left because every time we need them, every time their voice matters, they cave, they're never there. we'll see how all this plays out. there's no there there. this is about distraction. this is about revenge. and this is about doing what

donald trump wants them to do. >> but let me go back to another part of mitch mcconnell's point, which is that by going after trump not once but twice with impeachments, did your party assure that republicans were going to come back? i mean, censure votes have become more common. they've become raucous on the floor, right? if the american public, the voters look and say, both of you guys have gone too far, is there fairness in that? >> well, first of all, they're not the same, and let's understand that the impeachments against donald trump in the senate and one of the votes were bipartisan, donald trump was impeached with just cause. i get it, it's inconvenient for the republicans to accept that, but as we talk right now, donald trump has 70 felony charges against him. he's been indicted more times than he's been elected. if he gets convicted, he could potentially get 641 years in jail. so this is a serial criminal that they're defending.

this is a serial criminal who is deck dictating to the house republicans how they should act and it's very sad. >> alleged, but your point is taken. they put out a blistering statement accusing mccarthy of lying. quote, in order to promote the extreme far right's baseless impeachment stunt that even some members of mccarthy's own caucus are expressing concerns about pursuing, from a purely political standpoint, would it actually help democrats potentially if mccarthy decides to move forward is? and at least in this sense, those moderate republicans and moderate maybe you substitute that with people whose jobs may be on the line who are in purple districts? could it help democrats? >> i think the republican extremism has scared the majority of americans, and not just democrats but independents and some republicans. you did a little story on what happened in ohio, the referendum

in ohio, their extremism on abortion rights is scaring people, and i think that is to the benefit of democrats. but here's the deal. the republican party stands for nothing anymore. we know what they're against, but they're for nothing. and i get it, they're mad that the economy's doing better. they're mad that there's record job growth and inflation is coming down. faster in this country than any other country in the world, and it's inconvenient for them. they're mad that joe biden's actually doing a good job. so they have no place else to go but down these dark holes of conspiracy theories and this nonsense. >> so can i ask you really quickly because we're almost out of time about part of the job and there's a lot of folks out there, you were talking about it in the break, about the financial as well as personal suffering people are going through because of the effects of climate change. you have a legislative priority to support american farmers, to support rural communities. what's the impact on them and can democrats get anything done

on that front given the republican resistance? >> this is an emergency, i mean, you talked about the ocean temperature off the coast of florida at 100 degrees. what is it going to take to get republicans to actually understand that climate change is real? is it when you can brew a cup of coffee in the gulf of mexico? i represent a district in massachusetts that was severely impacted by floods that basically destroyed entire farms. this is happening all over the world, and so climate change is real. we are running out of time. this president is the first president that actually put some significant resources on the table to combat it. we have republicans trying to overturn it. enough. we need to get serious about combatting climate change. thank god that joe biden is president and not the other guy. >> congressman jim mcgovern, we appreciate you taking title to talk to us. coming up, taking a stand, the former republican attorney general who's now warning fellow

republicans to stop the ongoing political attacks against the justice department.

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the closer we get to 2024, the louder and often more unexpected the voices are against donald trump for his attacks on the justice department. the latest from republican alberto gonzalez, george w. bush's attorney general slamming the former president in an op-ed

for "the washington post." here's part of it, quote, i am among a number of jurists with experience at the highest levels of our government who grow more concerned as support for trump mounts in direct proportion to the number of indictments against him. while trump has a right to defend himself, his language and actions since 2016 have fueled a growing sense among many americans that our justice system is rigged and biased against him and his supporters. stuart stevens is back with us. he's talking, i guess the question is how many republicans are listening, stuart? >> yeah, you know, i don't really think this is about donald trump. i think it's about the republican party. from the very beginning when donald trump came out, when he called for a muslim ban in december of 2015, the republican party should have spoken out, and they didn't. they made a deal that trump would give them power, and they would step away from everything that for years and years we said

were core values of the party. and there's been a consistent attack on the pillars of civil society here. trump attacked judges. he attacked the justice department. he attacks the fbi, and the reason for this is that these are really authoritarians, and they don't want a system that is based upon the will of the people. they want people to believe that they're frightened and that only a strong man can save them. and that's the danger here. it's difficult to talk about without seeming alarmist, but it's like a pandemic. whatever we say at the beginning will sound alarmist, but in the end it's going to prove inadequate. >> it does seem when you read the entire op-ed that roberto gonzalez used this as a sort of existential crisis for american democracy. he wrote this, if we decide that presidents should never be charged with crimes after they leave office for actions committed while in office, we are no longer a democracy. the rule of law is the glue that

holds our country together. if we are to survive as a democracy, we must continue to respect and protect it. so obviously the judicial system. you mentioned it, the fbi. but of course the criticism has gone beyond that, the military, schools, for heavens sake, usa women's soccer, and i wonder if you think there has been a political shift. it used to be at least in many corridors that presenting a positive vision for the country was the way to win elections. >> yeah. funny about that if you are an american and you were born in the reagan era, the republicans had the attitude that you had won life's lottery. that there were certainly inequalities in america but you were not disadvantaged by being american. the republican party has completely turned that on its head. to be an american in their eyes is to be a victim, a chump, these powerful forces out there

like canada and they are -- donald trump's purpose is so settle that score, is harvesting this anger, no longer is it personal responsibility, no longer does character count. and look, it is extraordinarily dangerous here. and when you have a majority of the republican party that's not believed that the president of the united states is a legally elected president, so the next election is not going to be between two parties with different political views. it's going to be between one party that is attempting to depose an illegally elected president, and that is extraordinarily dangerous for the country, and if donald trump wins or a donald trump look alike, like ron desantis, i think it will be the end of democracy as we know it in this country. >> stuart stevens, always good to have you on the program, thank you. we've got new reporting that former arizona republican gubernatorial nominee kari lake is staffing up for a 2024 senate

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history, and the skies over southern new mexico, and all civilian space crew will blast off tomorrow on the first private virgin galactic mission. nbc's gadi schwartz has the details. >> this is the next frontier of space travel, deep in the new mexico desert, three regular folks are training for the ride of their lives. >> i kind of feel like i was born in this life for this. >> on thursday, they will blast to the edge of space on board

the unity. >> i was once a child with a dream, looking up to the stars, now i'm an adult in a spaceship. >> reporter: the same ship that rocketed sir richard branson and his crew to space in 2021, 53 miles above the earth, at speeds of more than 2,300 miles an hour. but this next space trip will be virgin galactic's first with civilian passenger astronauts only. people like keisha shahof and her 18-year-old daughter, natives from antigua, the first astronauts from the caribbean. for these astronomy buffs it's been a dream since childhood. >> i'm hoping to give myself the confidence to trying new things. >> reporter: what are you looking forward most? >> looking back and seeing my daughter's face r the former

olympian from england who's also battling parkinson's disease. >> just shows you this attitude of space for all is a wonderful attitude. >> reporter: these passengers undergo three days of rigorous training to prepare for the 90-minute flight, including three minutes of total weightlessness. >> you want to go in flight? >> i would love to fly. >> reporter: to find out what to expect, i took a spin in the cockpit simulator, with chief pilot david mckay. >> i'm going to pitch it up into the vertical. >> we're climbing. >> reporter: and there's planet earth above us now, wow. even if this simulator, earth just seems like a miracle. >> yeah, it is, it's a very beautiful thing. >> reporter: all of this, part of british billionaire sir richard branson's quest to make space travel to everyone. 800 people on a wait list with ticket prices at $450,000. >> reporter: those keisha and

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