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and the tourists still trying to evacuate. also ahead, lawyers for donald trump just arriving for a high stakes hearing in the election interference case. how much will trump be allowed to discuss publicly and could that trial begin as soon as january? ♪♪ it is 10:00 eastern, thanks for being with us on this friday, i'm ana cabrera reporting from new york, and we begin with the staggering death toll from the wildfires in hawaii. authorities on maui revealing overnight at least 55 people have died in those fires, and by one account, up to a thousand remain missing. communications on the island remain difficult making it hard to confirm who is safe and maui's mayor says intense search and rescue efforts are still underway. >> search in the interior of the buildings. we're waiting for fema to help with that search, as they are equipped to handle the hazmat
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conditions of the buildings that have been burned. >> shelters on the island are full of residents who have now lost everything, along with tourists still trying to evacuate. at this moment an afternoon the clock effort continues to battle six active fires on maui, including the lahaina fire that caused such heartbreaking destruction. it's worth underscoring again what we said at the top, these fires are now the second deadliest in modern u.s. history. in just a moment, i'll talk with speedy bailey of hawaii life flight about the rescue efforts, but let's start with nbc news correspondent dana griffin, what are you hearing from those impacted? >> reporter: ana, i can tell you the people here are so resilient, many have lost everything, but they are still holding on to hope and really embodying a sense of gratitude. right now on maui, the community
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is coming together to help those that have been devastated by these fires. behind me at the maui evacuation center, hundreds once again slept here overnight, many have had their lives upended and some barely made it out alive. this was the horrifying scene just steps from sam younger's beach front home. sam, his wife josey and their two dogs escaping with seconds to spare, as the inferno engulfed their neighborhood turning it into ash. >> it was devastating. >> it was unspeakable, unthinkable really just seeing what was going on, the destruction, all the people. >> reporter: this popular tourist town once rich in beauty and culture now gutted. many residents left with scars physical and emotional as they fled in terror. >> it's like an apocalypse. >> reporter: as walls of flames surrounded mike jacino's home he and his wife had to dive into the water to escape getting
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burned. >> and the current was pulling us out. you can't see anything. there's -- at one point we have fire on us, and we don't know where land is. >> reporter: finally making it back to shore, they desperately search for their missing dogs. then heard the cries of their neighbors. >> it was like every ten feet it was help, help. and i helped as many people as i possibly could, but i couldn't go any further because there's too much heat. >> reporter: while thousands have been evacuated as the street burned, surf instructor lisa refused to leave instead rescuing others from their homes. >> we ran into a burning building. we rescued two kids, got them safe to their mom. >> reporter: residents of this sacred land now helping each other recover. churches and shelters offering the displaced free clothes, food, and a safe place to sleep. >> take a lot of work and a lot of years and a lot of manpower, but i have no doubt that it will
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bounce back. >> reporter: and that is kind of the sentiment we're hearing from a lot of people, ana. they say that it is likely going to take several years and cost at least a billion dollars to rebuild, but they say, hey, maui is resilient, and they're looking forward to seeing what it will look like in the years to come. >> such beautiful people and a beautiful place, it's absolutely heartbreaking to see all those images. dana griffin, thank you, please stay with us as i bring in speedy now. we just heard some really harrowing stories of the people who had in some cases just minutes to flee. i know you are a regional director of an air ambulance company. how would you describe what you're witnessing and experiencing right now? >> thank you. just to be clear, i'm the regional director for not only the air ambulance company, but importantly american medical response, and we're the ambulance services that were on the ground during this event.
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>> oh, my gosh. >> we provide services to maui county and have for some 45 years, and i want to say this is truly very sad from every perspective, the iconic town and maui. our teams were truly heroes, ana. they worked tirelessly through the night alongside police and fire and other rescue workers. you heard some of the stories starting at about 5:00 p.m. on the 8th, we started to get word that the brush fires were coming into the communities, so all told, we transported about 30
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patients in about 12 hours to maui memorial hospital. >> and i'm sure -- i'm sure so traumatic for those rescuers to be seeing and having to experience the conditions that the firefighters were battling and seeing people who were in need of help. what sort of conditions did they find the people in that they've now flown and had to have med evacs? >> well, the conditions as you can see on the video were horrific. there were high winds that made the fires and moving and working in that area dangerous not only to everybody but including the rescuers. so they had to dodge and work within those conditions, but during that period, we transported -- well, we
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transported 30 patients to the hospital with burns. four of them were critical burns that had to be evacuated by life flight, our sister company, and again, this was all done within a 12-hour period. there were eight transports off of maui to tertiary medical centers in honolulu and four of them were critical burns. those air teams and ground teams worked tirelessly, as i mentioned, and they did their work. they do what ems does. i'm very proud of that. while people were sleeping, they were working through the night. >> wow. true, true heroes. are rescue efforts still underway? >> rescue efforts are still underway. they're still looking for missing people. we fear that the death count could rise, so there are search
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and rescue teams that are still in the area. as far as american medical response on the ground, we're working with all the agencies, but we're doing a lot of triage at some of the shelters. people are needing their medications. people are needing dialysis and all those services are being -- the community has come together. >> i'm sure. >> with all the medical professionals on the island and even from outside that were part of that team. >> yep. >> and we're doing what we can do to assist and refer them to the care they need. >> in tragedies like this we see so much strength and courage and the best of humanity come out. we've seen your video freeze a little bit during the course of our conversation, and i know
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power and communications have been out for much of the last few days. what are the biggest challenges you're facing right now? >> well, always in every disaster, communications is one of the keys, and without cell phone coverage, this is hampering a lot of the efforts to find people, communicate. so during the event, you know, the radio system we had to rely on, and we're shoring that up as we speak to make sure that we have -- we tighten up the communications link with the stadium s office here, but yes, getting supplies, we were able to airlift with our own aircraft the supplies that our crews needed within less than 24
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hours, so they have the supplies and medicines that they need, but this is going to be a longer term event, and we're working with all agencies to try to get, you know, the care to the folks that need it. and we'll be part of that team. >> well, bust of luck to you, speedy bailey, thank you so much for taking the time. my heart is with you and your community, and thanks to day na dana griffin continuing to report from ground zero here in hawaii with the second deadliest wildfire in modern u.s. history, and then the fear that the death toll could still climb from the 55 confirmed deaths we have right now. much more coverage out of hawaii later this hour, including the effort to evacuate tourists from the island. the ceo of hawaiian airlines will join us to talk about how they're helping. and we're also staying on top of a hearing happening right now, donald trump's legal team face-to-face with the judge
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overseeing the special counsel's election interference case in washington, d.c., the legal restrictions that could be placed on the former president. plus, new details about the fbi's deadly shooting of a man who allegedly threatened president biden and other elected officials. ahead, the surprising tip that led investigators to him. we're back in just 60 seconds. s. age is just a number, and mine's unlisted. try boost® high protein with 20 grams of protein for muscle health versus 16 grams in ensure® high protein. boost® high protein. now available in cinnabon® bakery-inspired flavor. learn more at boost.com/tv (christina) wanna know the secret ingredient to running my business? now available in cinnabon® bakery-inspired flavor. (tina) her. (christina) being all over, all at once. (tina) all the time. (christina) but my old network wasn't cutting it. and that's not good for baking. or judging. or writing. so, we switched to verizon, the network businesses rely on. with verizon business unlimited, i get 5g, truly unlimited data, and unlimited hotspot data.
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sprint right before the iowa caucus. joining us now is nbc news investigative correspondent tom winter along with veteran prosecutor and trial attorney paul henderson. tom, what are we watching at this hearing? >> right, so our colleague daniel barnes is sending us some note from this hearing and apparently the judge just said mr. trump like every american has a first amendment right to free speech, but that right is not absolute. she says, and we're paraphra paraphrasing, imposed at arraignment, the former president had to sign some of those conditions about a week ago when he was before the court, and she says without a protective order on disclosure of discovery materials could lead to witnesses being harassed or otherwise interfere with a fair trial. so that's what she's discussing at this point. the hearing began at approximately 10:01 this morning, and apparently they are hoping to -- or the judge is hoping to make a decision on this perhaps as soon as today.
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it doesn't sound like she's going to rule from the bench. she'll put an order onto the court document. we do anticipate getting some resolution on this today on this issue of the protective order. back to your original point, and when we were starting off here, it's about two things. sounds look the judge is starting to address the president's -- the former president's ability to speak publicly about this case as well as the idea of the protective order, what types of things from evidence the former president can talk about. so trump in his legal defense team will get the discovery and will get the evidence that the government intends to present at their case, what prosecutors intend to bring up whenever this trail may happen. they'll get any sort of information that might be beneficial for the former president at that time. protective orders, i don't think i've ever done a report on a protective order, but it just shows how much attention is being paid to this case, but it also shows the idea that both sides have really dug in here
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and are litigating all the finer points. federal prosecutors want to be able to show their evidence at the time and place of their choosing and the manner of their choosing. the defense, this is not uncommon, by the way, perhaps want to put some information out and raise some points about some of the things that are in this indictment. for instance, the cheeseboro memos, if you look at those, "the new york times" has published them, the one on the 6th, it paints a certain picture. if you look at the one on the 9th. >> and cheeseboro we believe is one of the co-conspirators, but unnamed. that's just one example. i think that's going to be something that both sides are clearly fighting hard over and we'll continue to get updates. >> it doesn't sound like at this point the prosecutors are asking for a full gag order. they're not trying to stop the former president from speaking, which is important to underscore, but they do want to protect potential witnesses from being compromised or any kind of
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intimidation from happening here. >> exactly. >> so paul, if you remember in a rally just a couple of days ago, trump was talking about this proposed protective order, and he said, quote, i will talk about it. i will. they're not taking away my first amendment rights. is that a comment the judge will take into consideration as she hears these arguments? >> it is, and i believe that's absolutely why she started with his first amendment right. she was making it very clear that first amendment rights are not absolute, and first amendment rights are balanced when there are criminal trials every single day, especially when those comments, those words have an effect, an illegal effect. so you don't have absolute first amendment rights anyway. the fact that he is talking about it publicly, i believe, it's encouraging to me that the judge is paying attention to what prosecutors are filing and talking about the issues that they've raised in a legal context in preparation for her decision that i believe is going
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to affirm the protective orders in ways that is more similar to what the prosecution is arguing, especially in a case like this. again, these issues that we're talking about with protective orders take place in every single criminal case. they are more especially prevalent when we have a grand jury and a case coming from a grand jury because in the case -- and even in this case in particular where you have elected officials, you have official documents, you have privileged conversations and protected witnesses, and we know that trump has attacked witnesses in the past, made their information public. this isn't something new or speculative. we've seen behavior like this where people that are doing their everyday jobs, and not just civilians, so in a case like this, he has attacked investigators and agencies as well. so if there's information from the cia, if there's information from the fbi, that's not a bar for him to make public statements to denigrate those individuals and those agencies. these are all the reasons why
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these arguments are so important and this ruling is so important, but it's also another indication of just how trump is going to attack his case as his defense and try and raise every issue that he can to delay, to obstruct, to derail the prosecution that's taking place, but this is almost a no-brainer and i would be very surprised if the judge rules in another way that doesn't protect and affirm the protective order as affirmed by the prosecution in this case. >> the thing that makes it more complicated, i suppose, is the fact that this is a defendant who is running for president and is in the middle of a campaign and is, in fact, the leading gop nominee front runner right now. i want to bring in former federal prosecutor brandon fox as well to this conversation. brandon, trump's already pushed the envelope more than just about any other defendant. he's posted sometimes threatening content on his social media. he's railed against the justice department, the special counsel,
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even some judges involved at almost every rally he goes to, he seems to have no interest in abiding by any protective order imposed. so if you're the judge, how do you handle a defendant like this? >> and this goes back to some of what paul was talking about. this protective order is more about a fair trial and more act protecting witnesses than it would be about sensitive information. typically you're talking about bank records, grand jury transcripts that you don't want to leak because there's an ongoing investigation, which may be the case. really this is about not wanting mr. trump to be intimidating witnesses. not wanting him to be out there potentially making it so the jury pool is not considering the evidence and considering other things. the judge really -- this is a good early test for her to see if she's going to treat mr. trump like any other defendants. what does she do at that point. >> that's the question. what does she do?
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>> i hate to speculate on anything like this, but for any other defendant, what would happen is there would be a warning. there would be an admonishment. she'd bring in the defendant ask questions, what did you mean by these social media posts. and from there her options are to restrict his conditions of release, and at some point down the road have to make a decision if they're not going to abide is this person entitled to be out on release pending trial. >> and you have more reporting coing from the courtroom, tom? >> that's right. one of the lead prosecutors for the special counsel's team is making the case or trying to make the case that all discovery in this case should be protected and so that former president and his attorneys should not be able to put any of it out into the mainstream, into the public. the judge is challenging that saying what about just certain sensitive pieces of discovery, shouldn't that be restricted. they're making the argument,
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according to barnes, that the defendant's proposal, that would be trump is specifically tailored to permit them to try this in the media. the defense asking for the court's blessing to use criminal discovery for political purposes. that's what we're hearing from the lead prosecutor for jack smith's team. >> i'm so glad you have this reporting that you can bring us because we can't see inside the courtroom. i mean, the federal cases don't allow cameras in court, so we're forced to have to do this game of notes and reporting out on air. brandon, let's pivot and talk about the trial schedule. as we mentioned, the special counsel's office wants the trial to start january 2nd. they believe it could last four to six weeks. does this sound realistic to you? >> yeah, that seems like it's the right length of a trial. now, they said that's for the prosecution's case. i would expect that would be for the overall case. i thought what was the most interesting part about the january 2nd pick they have, we'll see if the judge orders it, is it says forget about the
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defamation case, it's the end of january. this case is more important. and it is really jack smith's office big footing a little bit saying this case is the most important thing and the civil case can fall to the side that is set at the end of january. i do think you actually can fit this in. four to six weeks is a realistic expectation for how long this trial would go. it is in everybody's interest for this case to go first before the voters have to decide who the republican nominee will be and into the general election. >> see, it's simple enough if you're looking at just one case and one trial, but as we just showed with that graphic, there is a lot on trump's plate, and he was quick to post on his social media called the proposed schedule, quote, election interference because this timing keeps him off the campaign trail, at least in part. the iowa caucus is on january 15th, you have another e. jean carroll defamation trial. he's back in court to face class action lawsuit for business,
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fraud allegations there on january 29th. new hampshire's primary right around then, then it's on to super tuesday on march 5th. so you can see how backed up everything is. paul, what does all that mean for scheduling this trial at any point? >> yeah, i think what you're going to see is a wave of these charges and indictments overtaking the campaign trail that he's on, and this is before we start having an in-depth conversation about what's happening in georgia, and that fourth indictment that we're expecting. and the reason that that one, i think, is going to be the one to watch in all of this -- because it is the disrupter, they are making no accommodations in coordination with the federal charges, and that means he's going to be treated differently in the court. they expect him to have a mug shot and go through regular criminal processes. they're not giving him federal accommodations as he's experiencing in other cases. these will be all new charges. the other interesting thing is that some of that evidence from the georgia case that involved
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the secretary of state will be part of the federal charges that he's facing right now. and remember, these are state charges, so there's no pardon that's possible regardless of whether or not he becomes the ultimate nominee and even if he ultimately wins the presidency in the future as well. i think all of these things are going to overwhelm his candidacy. i think all of these things are going to interrupt the run that he's making and soon there's going to be a shift into these mounting hearings, mounting decisions, and mounting sentences is what it's looking like where we're headed that's got to overwhelm what he's trying to do as a candidate. i think that's just the reality. again, none of this prevents him from running. none of this prevents him from potentially winning if he has the votes. i think it's going to be a real distraction not just to him but to the public as well that is watching all of this to see that day after day beyond just what he's saying on the campaign trail, there are legal repercussions and legal obligations from him and his team. that's what i think is going to
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happen. >> this is a historic moment we are in right now. all of you, thank you, tom winter, brandon fox, paul henderson, i appreciate you. happy friday. now to an nbc news exclusive on the investigation into president biden's handling of classified documents. we are learning attorneys for president biden are in talks with the special counsel in that case about a potential interview with the president. now, as a reminder, this investigation, this special counsel all completely separate from the case involving former president donald trump. let's get right to nbc's monica alba who broke this story. what do we know about these conversations and a potential interview? >> reporter: well, the negotiations here is really the new and interesting part of this phase of the investigation. it is something that the president's advisers expected when asked by the special counsel for an interview that he would cooperate if the conditions can be met to do that felt so that is now where the conversations are taking place according to two people familiar
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with the matter who tell myself and carol lee, this new development about conversations about how this would take place, where, what the scope of the questions would be, and those specifics really do matter in an interview with the special counsel for a sitting u.s. president. so his team of attorneys have been going back and forth, we know, for about a month now as i mentioned, which does signal that there is some ongoing discussion about a lot of those key points. we know that the classified documents that were recovered from an old office that the president had many washington, d.c., and later from his private home in wilmington, delaware, a lot of them dealt with his time as vice president, but some of them related to his time as a u.s. senator as well so the biden team wants to know, for instance, would the scope of questions include all of those decades of public service if things were founded related to both, or if this is more limited to those documents from the obama administration era.
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many questions still about where this goes from here. a couple of months ago, we were able to report exclusively that these talks hadn't started and so it didn't show any signs of wrapping up imminently. again, now that the talks have started to take place, it suggests this would be a very big key final piece before any kind of probe is wrapped up. again, the biden team has pledged to cooperate fully with this. they have pointed out many times when those documents were found they were handed over to the federal government unlike in the case of former president trump and his mishandling of those classified documents that of course he's been indicted on now in dozens of charges he is facing even though he has pleaded not guilty to that. >> thank you for the update in that special investigation. on "ana cabrera reports," the trip from truth social about posts threatening president biden. plus, what iran gains from a deal that secures the release of five american prisoners. s. takid after antacid all day long
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welcome back. we're learning more about the utah man who was killed by the fbi after allegedly making threats against the president, including the tip that led authorities to him. nbc news senior white house correspondent kelly o'donnell reports. >> new details this morning about that fatal fbi shooting in utah when the fbi came to arrest craig robertson for threatening to assassinate president biden, vice president harris, and other officials. robertson was armed, a senior law enforcement official tells nbc news, and he pointed his weapon at federal agents and did not comply with their commands. this video recorded at the scene early wednesday. robertson was shot and killed inside an entry of his provo home nbc has learned. not far from where president biden was expected to arrive
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hours later. >> ultimately, there was a threat posed to an agent. an agent fired back. >> reporter: the 75-year-old wood worker displayed his cache of weapons and graphic talk about violent attacks online. a law enforcement source says former president trump's social media platform truth social alerted authorities in march about the alarming nature of robertson's threatening comments. truth social has not responded to nbc's news' requests for comment. on his accounts robertson declared himself a maga trumper, and described part of his arsenal as a democrat eradicator. >> that was kelly o'donnell reporting, our thanks to kelly. we're going to stay on top of that story. and we are also tracking new developments in the planned prisoner exchange between the u.s. and iran. five american prisoners have now
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been placed under house arrest in tehran. we're told this is the first step toward their eventual release. in exchange, the u.s. will release around $6 billion in iranian government assets, which have been blocked by u.s. sanctions according to multiple sources with knowledge of the matter. and they stress that this money can only be used for food, medicine, and other humanitarian needs. but the deal's already facing pushback with some republicans calling it appeasement by the biden administration. let's bring in peter baker, he's chief white house correspondent for "the new york times." we know this deal isn't complete just yet, and so of course biden administration's being very careful about what they're commenting on it. what else are you learning about how this came to be and how it's going to move forward? >> well, it's been an intricate diplomacy up until now. it's involved multiple countries including south korea, which is actually holding the oil money that we're talking about here.
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the country of which is going to hold the money once the south koreans transfer it to them, switzerland, oman, american officials went to oman to have indirect conversations in order to negotiate this. the sultan of oman directly engaged on this. it's been a remarkable few months of quiet diplomacy outside of the public eye, and it has arranged for these five individuals, some of whom have been held for many years, so far they're not out of iran. they've been released from the notorious evin prison. they're in a hotel under guard. this money has been transferred where iran will have access to it for humanitarian purposes. money is all fungible, what they use for humanitarian purposes now could be used for something else. those five would then get on a plane hopefully in a few weeks and leave the country for good. >> i can only imagine how their families are feeling right now and the optimism, hope that they have about reuniting with those five americans.
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talk to us about, again, the complicated u.s./iran relationship. you talked about just how many different countries and entities are involved in a deal like this. is this type of deal really the only way to get things done with iran? >> well, at this point, yes. the talks that the united states had led in order to create a new nuclear agreement with iran basically broke down last year. there was an interesting side note in this current story, which is that there have been informal discussions about maybe an informal agreement on the side about this nuclear issue, for instance, not that they would go back into the full agreement that a negotiator originally under the obama administration and withdrawn from by the trump administration, but maybe had this sort of informal agreement where the iranians cap the level of enrichment that they do of uranium, and the united states wouldn't impose new sanctions to kind of keep things in a status quo situation. it's not very satisfying
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probably to either side but would have avoid an escalation of hostilities in the near-term. we'll see if that goes anywhere. >> the president had to know he's going to get some political blowback, at least from the other side of the aisle here at home, and yet still moving forward. they think this is the best option. >> well, they do. it obviously does raise questions, you know, allowing iran access to its own money. it's its own oil money that has been frozen. it automatically raises the question of whether we're paying ransom money for hostages. that's what mike pence said yesterday, the largest ransom payment ever paid to tehran for hostages, and the question is whether that sets a precedent that other countries will take heed of we have americans currently being held in china, currently held in russia. what will that mean for their fate? could the biden administration decide a long time ago that fears of blowback in these kind of negotiations were overwrought
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and they're better off making negotiations, making deals where they can, and getting people who have been held for years in terrible circumstances out of those prisons and out of those hostile countries and back home. >> having people come home is always a good thing. thank you so much, peter baker for joining us. i hope you have a wonderful weekend. up next here on "ana cabrera reports," escaping the horror in hawaii, thousands have already fled, thousands more are waiting as airlines scramble to add more flights. >> it's just scary to see a big wild fair fire just kind of coming your way. >> i think everybody's feeling good they got to the airport and there's food. there was no food on the island. >> i'll talk to the president and ceo of of hawaiian airlines next about how they're trying to help. try boost® high protein with 20 grams of protein for muscle health versus 16 grams in ensure® high protein. boost® high protein. now available in cinnabon® bakery-inspired flavor.
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in hawaii where in the midst of unthinkable destruction there, thousands of tourists are trying to find their way home after experiencing horror in paradise. nbc's steve patterson has more on the ongoing efforts from maui. >> reporter: thousands of passengers are just trying to get home. >> people are getting delayed. people are getting canceled. baggage claims is a mess, it's all over the place. >> reporter: many still stranded in maui's airport processing the devastation they managed to escape. >> it's just scary to see a big wildfire just kind of coming your way, and it's not something i ever experienced before. >> we jumped out of the car and ran as fast as we could and got out. >> reporter: amy springsteen is headed home to oregon, she says this is what's left of her maui rental car. she along with some others in her party were going to dinner when she says flames leapt onto the street. >> there was debris everywhere, fire falling down on top of us, but we got out safe. >> so far more than 20,000 passengers have fled the island
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since the fires began, thousands are still waiting. >> i think everybody feels safe that they've gotten into the airport and there's food because there was no food on the island. >> a lot of the seats are full, a lot of people standing around waiting for their flights. >> many travelers will still call the airport home. as airlines scramble to add extra flights to get them out. american airlines even upgraded a plane headed to los angeles with extra seats on southwest and hawaiian airlines, websites showing available flights from maui to honolulu for $19, and united airlines saying they've canceled all inbound flights so empty planes can be used to get passengers back to the mainland. >> steve patterson with that reporting, thank you, and joining us now is peter ingram, president and ceo of hawaiian airlines, i can imagine you're a very, very busy american. thank you for taking a few minutes of your day with us. your airline has been flying empty planes.
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let's start with what's your sense of how many people have been waiting evacuation flights, and what has this process been like? >> well, it's been a very day-to-day process, and, you know, we're really don't have great information about how many people are still coming, so we've really been treating it as how much capacity can we put in the air. we've added extra flights yesterday. we've got extra flights ready to go today. we're going to operate that schedule and we're prepared to add extra flights through the weekend as we see how many people are still coming from the hotels near lahaina that don't have power and people need to get out and get back to honolulu first and then to the mainland. >> right, and that's one added complication in terms of location here is the, you know,
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multiple stops sometimes for people to make their way home. we have to imagine the people getting on those flights have a lot of trauma. what are your crew members hearing from them? >> well, i was able to go over to maui yesterday and visit with some of our teammates, and i think many of the guests who have arrived at the airport, particularly the people who have arrived on buss from those affected areas, they're just so relieved to get somewhere where there's power, where there's running water, where they can get a bite to eat, that they're really grateful, and i know our teammates are very worried about their community, many of them have family members who have lost properties, close friends that they haven't been able to get in touch with yet, but they're really just trying to extend our hawaiian hospitality to the guests that we know need to get on their way and get off of maui and people are really
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focused on just taking care of that mission. >> wow, i read you have about 500 employees who call maui home, and to think that they're trying to plow through and work and take care of others during what must be a very difficult time is so admirable and inspirational. thank you for taking the time, best of luck, and thank you for your efforts. >> thank you very much. up next here on "ana cabrera reports." on pause, what the supreme court's decision to halt an opioid settlement plan worth billions means for one of america's richest families. plus, later, all eyes on the hawkeye state where the 2024 candidates are on the campaign trail. what voters are telling our team at the iowa state fair about what really matters for their vote. ers for their vote age is just a number, and mine's unlisted. try boost® high protein with 20 grams of protein for muscle health versus 16 grams in ensure® high protein. boost® high protein.
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order case dealing with the protective order in the case of trump's election interference and the judge just ruling that the protective order will only apply to sensitive materials and not to all discovery in this case. so what does that mean? let's bring back our veteran prosecutor paul henderson to help us understand this. paul, what does this signal to you? >> that signals that it is a win for prosecution because prosecution will still be targeting and identifying the information before it is turned over as to what is going to be sensitive. and i think that's what they were asking for from the beginning. this is a blow to the trump defense. this is a blow to the slowdown of the protective order being used as a wedge to try and delay, obstruct or derail the prosecution's case. and so what we will see is process, i predict trump and his team will be fighting on these determinations, but the way that the judge is ruling in allowing prosecution to evaluate the
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evidence in a case by case basis when it gets turned over is a definite win for the prosecution. and really what the judge is concerned about and what prosecutors are concerned about is making sure that protective documents that are being turned over to trump are not misused and have other purposes. they're not tainting witnesses that should not have access to information that they should not have that need to be used in the case. there is sensitive evidence that does not need to be made or brought to the public. for instance, if there are operational types of information that don't need to be disclosed as to operations within the white house, or public safety reasons, for example, that's not the kind of information in the trump team can go about to denigrate the case or the information itself. and not for nothing, but i think one of the biggest risks here we haven't talked about heretofore is the influence on trying to taint or pollute the jury pool and that is absolutely one of
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the things trump is trying to do with this issue. so this is a win for prosecutors and this is what i expected and how i expected her to rule. >> in fact, there was a quote from the courtroom prosecutors saying the government's aim here is to prevent the use of any material produced in discovery for harming the jury pool. to your point, you were just saying that would make sense. of course, it makes sense. and we're told that the judge is going line by line in terms of what is asked by prosecutors in limiting the scope of who may have access to the evidence, who would normally have access to these quote, unquote sensitive materials? >> normally it is just the lawyers on the other side. in a case like this where we have seen specifically over the past week when the indictment came out, it wasn't just the lawyers talking about it. although they spoke about it in an inappropriate way. we saw them all over the news almost talking line by line about the indictment. beyond that, we saw trump himself, the defendant in this
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case, with access to the information and not just access to it, but disseminating the information publicly. and he has a broad platform that has to be a consideration for prosecutors, that has to be one of the big considerations for the judge. what have they done with the indictment information before they even get the specifics of the discovery against him. that's a big deal. and this is a problem for the case, that's why she's ruling in the way that she is ruling. again, this is a win for prosecutors. the only issue now, though, is i'm concerned and i want to see how she's going to rule on timing. because if it is clear and i think it is clear that they are going to go line by line to find anything they can, even with vacuous arguments, i think this is somewhat of a vacuous argument because protective orders are standard in any case. especially in a case like this, what that is going to do on the timeline for this case and the other cases that are impacting trump. >> as far as the timeline goes, we believe august 28th is the next time they're back in court. as we saw in this particular
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issue, the judge could always add hearings between now and then if more issues come up. paul henderson, thank you for standing by and being a great resource for us and helping us understand what is happening in the courtroom today. appreciate it. up next on "ana cabrera reports," step right up for butter cows, chicken on a stick, fried everything and how about a side of politics? we're live at the iowa state fair where the gop candidates are dropping in. where the gop are dropping in. age is just a number, and mine's unlisted. try boost® high protein with 20 grams of protein for muscle health versus 16 grams in ensure® high protein. boost® high protein. now available in cinnabon® bakery-inspired flavor. learn more at boost.com/tv cut! another health insurance commercial, another aqua-aerobics scene. yup. most health insurance companies see us all the same: smiley seniors golfing, hiking... don't forget antiquing. that's why i chose humana. they see me, not a stereotypical senior. i'm pre-diabetic, so i talked one-on-one
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let me take you to iowa where presidential hopefuls are getting chummy with the locals over fried oreos and a butter cow at the famous state fair. let's go straight to nbc news correspondent dasha burns who is joining us from the fairgrounds. we're going to see tons of candidates in the next couple of days. what can we expect today? >> reporter: well, ana, one candidate just wrapped up his fairside chat with governor kim reynolds, former vice president mike pence. he's in a crowd of voters over there, a little hard to see. he's mingling with some iowans right as we speak. he just sat with the governor for about half an hour answering questions from her, some voter questions that she had for him as well. she'll be doing this with pretty much all the candidates that are willing except for former president trump, who is taking issue with her neutrality in the race. he will not be sitting down with her. but take a look around. look at how many voters are
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here. this is why candidates come to the fair. voters are here. they are ready to listen. they are ready to take a look and kick the tires of all the candidates. the vast majority of folks we talked to here, ana, they are still undecided. they're open minded. take a listen to some of the conversations we had. >> it is always good to come here and they're willing to listen to us. >> i don't think we are super thrown off by the glitz of presidential candidates. and i think that gives us the freedom to ask difficult questions and not just be thrown off by somebody because the maybes. >> reporter: next the former vp is to flip some pork chops. doug burgum is looking at the butter cow, making that visit, doing all the classic fair things you got to do, show you're the real deal, show you can connect with voters. tomorrow, the clash of the titans, the two top candidates,
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former president trump and florida governor ron desantis will be here. a lot to look out for at the iowa state fair, ana. >> they have sunshine and fried pickles and, you know, the works. thank you, dasha burns. that's going to do it for us this busy week. thanks for being here. have a wonderful weekend. my friend jose diaz-balart picks up our coverage right now. good morning, 11:00 a.m. eastern, 8:00 a.m. pacific, i'm jose diaz-balart reporting from new york. breaking overnight in hawaii, the number of people killed in those devastating wildfires is now up to at least 55. survivors are returning to their homes only to find piles of smoking rubble. >> people lost everything. homes, jobs, their cars, their pets. there is still people missing. >> right now in a washington, d.c. courtroom, former president donald trump's lawyers are in a
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