tv Yasmin Vossoughian Reports MSNBC August 12, 2023 12:00pm-1:00pm PDT
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using his boat to try to save others. plus, a deal to free americans in iran under fire from several science. i want to talk to a journalist who was held for more than 500 days and some of the country. a huge victory in the higher this week that struck a blow for abortion rights. i'll be joined by congresswoman, chantal brown, a key force in the win. plus this, -- we >> how are democracy i think everything is at stake right now. >> reverend al sharpton has an exclusive one-on-one interview with vice president kamala harris. he will also join me to talk about that later on this hour. we begin that with this breaking news in the fulton county georgia investigation in donald trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 presidential election. -- fulton county d.a., fani willis, we'll begin presenting her case to a grand jury early next week. former georgia lieutenant
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governor, jeff duncan, confirms to the newspaper that he was notified that he will testify before the grand jury on tuesday. it is all coming as trump is making his first public appearance at the iowa state fair today since the protective order ruling in his election interference trial. here is what he told our own vaughn hillyard moments ago. >> i don't have to take a look at it. the whole thing is a fake. it's about biden. they put it out because they can't win an election the fairway. it is all overblown election interference. biden put it out because he can't win the fairway. he is right down in the polls. >> mr. trump, did you intend to overturn the 2020 election. >> you know the answer to that. >> joining me is former federal prosecutor -- on kyushu dory. and nbc news justice reporter, ryan reilly. also the author of sedition hunters. set to be released in october. let me start with you on this one in the pekingese we are following out of fulton county. the a.g. sea getting word now
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that tuesday they will be hearing a grand jury and the former lieutenant governor integral, she, of course to the d.a.'s case. what do you make of it? >> it seems like after a fairly long investigation that fani willis is bringing it to her conclusion. she has signaled for quite some time now. it is unclear whether mr. duncan would be the last witness. with this would be right before turning indictments or if there would be something more. it does suggest that miss willis and her team might begin revealing or getting some indictments returned as soon as this week. >> talk about building the choreography of a case like this one. in front of a grand jury with just two days time, possibly. how do they decide what comes when? >> this is a very complicated
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presentation. as your question, correctly, assumes. right? prosecutors might be able to choreograph start and things. but at the end of the day the maim of the game is putting in evidence. making sure the grand jurors have the relevant law and the relevant facts that the prosecutors are making available to them in order to make an appropriate determination. it seems like miss willis also wants to make sure they can see some of the potentially key players in the underlying facts. to make their own assessments about their credibility. in particular, one thing that may be notable to them is their political affiliations, right? the fact that, and mr. duncan's case, a fellow republican who has nevertheless been quite consistent in denouncing mr. trump's efforts. who, therefore, it could be a rather important witness for the case. >> we have talked repeatedly about this but i think it is important to reiterate. talking a little bit about the possible charges we will be looking at.
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specifically the rico charges. the racketeering charges. how that applies to the state of georgia >> miss willis has apparently been determining whether or not she might bring some charges in a variety of statutes including the states rico statue. statutes of pattern on a federal statute. that is designed to allow the government to go after large complex organized crime networks. that is usually how it's done, right? in organized crime cases that's how we tend to hear about it. but this particular -- using this statute in a particular or novel way. patterns that we don't normally see them. and this might be. one she has also used in earlier back to gay shuns. it can be a way to tie together very stalling fact patterns. but it also does come with some potential downsides. the rico statues, at least a federal one and i imagines day one has a very arcane requirement. some highly technical requirements. sometimes that troops
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prosecutors up when cases come before a jury. that is a long way. out the next step is to see what charges he might bring in what they would look like and what factual allegations are. >> ryan riley allen talk specifically about jack smith's election interference case. i know you are in the courtroom for the protective order on friday. take us inside the courtroom what happened? >> the judge essentially setting the parameters saying that the message needed to get through that she is in charge of the courtroom. her biggest priority is making sure that this case gets to the point where i can go to trial. regardless of whether or not when she referred to donald trump's day job is the embarked important thing here. she was making clear that the most important thing here is getting the case to trial. that takes the priority. everything else might have to take a backseat. i think she used the world yield six different times meaning she thinks that whatever donald trump's political motivations are whatever his outside tug is when running for president, her
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priorities making sure that the case moves forward, gets to a point where they can get a jury selection. if there is a situation where this becomes a circus like atmosphere, and that only speeds up the timeline. meaning they need to get to a point where they will be able to select that jury. way to do that is to move forward. making this ball rolling forward rather than making out of court statements that are really gonna impact how this case seen overall >> i want to draw on what ryan just talked about there. read exactly what the judge has said in the courtroom. talking about how this could really speed things up. kind of seeming like a threat to the defense there. the fact that he is running a political campaign which currently have to go to the orderly administration of justice and if that means he can't exactly what he wants to say about people who may be witnesses in the case, that is how it's gonna have to be. she then went on to say the more party makes inflammatory statements about this case, which you obtained the jury pool or intimidate potential
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witnesses, the greater the urgency will be that we proceed to trial quickly. what do you make of this overall statement that we are hearing from the judge? >> i thought that the judge handled this clay well in quite cleverly. her concern, understandably is he my continue to make statements that might be inflammatory, effect witnesses endures. she did not threaten him with a gag order or threatened to revoke his bail. both of which would've been dramatic escalations and caused an uproar on conservative media and among donald trump supporters. what she did is threaten the thing which he feared the most. having this trial move up its timeline, potentially before the republican primaries before the november 2024 election. that is the thing, i think, that is most problematic for trump. the name of the game right now is to try to push these cases back as well as possible. ideally past the 2024 election. she appears to be seen right through that and identify the
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appropriate leverage point at this juncture. >> thank you let's switch gears here. we are following up breaking news out of hawaii. these of pain from these historic wildfires here that tore through lahaina. they are now turning to anger. anger about what might have gone wrong. anger and trying to get to whatever is left of many people's homes. seeing what survived. nbc news is steve patterson is back with us. steve, talk to. as we spoke about last hour of course. i see that line of cars behind you. what more have you been seeing? ? >> as you can imagine there is a lot of frustration as you can imagine people trying to get back to see their homes. this is the roadblock i mentioned earlier. this line has been really solid the past day or so. people have been waiting in this line i keep saying it because it is true. 15 hours! they are trying to get pastoral block. you can see the crews going in now. that has been consistent.
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police are letting people in with supplies and service agencies go through. they are letting, of course, other police and other local law enforcement agencies go through. as far as residents, citizens with identification people who have hotel indemnification who maybe had luggage that they left back at the hotel, they are not letting the people through. this also includes people who vitally need to get back to their families. we need to get back to the pets. maybe they have medication that they need to deliver to people who are in need beyond borders like this. now, police are giving a circuitous route on the north of the island. there is another way to get there. every resident i've spoken to says there is one lane highways with no shoulders when you send all the people back that way that rooted can be filled up, as well. as you can imagine people are very angry. this is a high attention, high anxiety, situation. after people have lost so much. we spoke to one gentleman about
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what he's going through after waiting all the time of being told he can't go through. listen to this. >> they need to stop closing the road to people acting a fool and start holding those people accountable and he did hold it open -- if you need to make an arrest, if you need to make things happen, make that happen for those individuals and start setting the example. he responsible once can keep going through and keep getting supplies in. >> he is talking about the situation in reference to the fact that, he believes, people are not letting people through -- not only because there is a traffic jam up ahead, but because of a few bad actors and crowd like this you are doing the wrong thing. hopping out of their cars, using their phones in the wrong places in the middle of the highway. he is very upset because he feels like a few of the people around him if everyone else, especially when we're talking about, essentially, and humanitarian situation. this is not a few people who are upset about a traffic jam. these people really need to get
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back there in some cases. that is the situation on the ground on top of, obviously, investigations into the emergency response that was held during the fire. walking into the state agencies. why didn't the sirens go off? those text messages were sent out, how many actually got them? all of this part of the frustration that is mounting with citizens. we will be going back there when they get there to find, in many cases, nothing. that is the situation here in hawaii. >> frustration, anger and sadness. we are seeing it all there. steve patterson, thank you. by the way, coming up later on this hour i'm going to speak to one maui resident whose catamaran has helped get people to safety after those devastating fires. trey garnished joins me with what he has been seeing a had. he did not want to miss that conversation. a conversation -- winning the release of americans held in iran. not everyone is happy about it. in 60 seconds i will speak to jason rosario from the washington post he was held captive himself in around for
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speak, of americans held captive by the iranian government are now officially on house arrest which is the first step of a deal to ultimately secure their freedom. but these agreement comes at a reporter cost of six billion dollars, which we should note is only supposed to be used for humanitarian purposes. to dig into more of this, my next guest, jason rezaian, was one of the only people who can truly imagine how these five americans are feeling right now, and he was of course unjustly held captive by the iranian government for 544 days, jason, my friend, good to talk to, you thank you for joining us on this, give me a sense of how you are feeling right now with this deal in place? what are your biggest concerns? >> yasmin, first and foremost, my biggest concern is that could still fall apart. they have been conditionally released under house arrest. and it looks like it might take
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several weeks for the deal to be finalized. another no, from my own experience, things can change from the iranian side until the last minute. so i will be very happy along with their families, along with all americans, when they leave iranian airspace. but for the moment, you know, i think they can relax a little bit, because any day outside of -- after you have spent as much time as they have inside is a breath of fresh air and freedom. >> how do you recover from that? you are one of the rare individuals that spent so much time -- these vigils now, as you are, though -- how do you recover from something like that being unjustly held? >> i will tell you, the scars will remain with me for the rest of my life. but i sort of decided very early on after my release that
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i wasn't going to get that lost that pass experienced by my life moving forward. i've tried to report on cases of americans held in iran and other countries. and try to elevate their plights and advocate for them. and in a small way that has made my own difficult experience feel a little less like it was time wasted. but it is hard, i had the support of incredible family, wonderful friends and colleagues. still, every day's rogel. >> i want to talk a little bit about the reaction to this decision on a policy level, right? of course we have been hearing a lot from republicans not being in favor of giving six billion dollars back to the iranian government, even if it is for humanitarian purposes. and the question of how they are even going to regulate that. that aside, i am talking more about the activists. you and i have talked repeatedly about, obviously the
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efforts made about by the iranian woman, domestically and outside this country as well, after the killing of mahsa yu-ri. the question of whether or not this is a actions face to those people, seeing the american government negotiate with the current iranian regime. >> i think, first of all, we have to separate the two issues. the freedom and safety of american citizens held wrongfully anywhere in the world has to be a priority of the u.s. government. so while i can understand that people were upset about the idea that funds be released to the iranian regime, you also can't ignore them into oblivion. in the meantime, they are abusing and greatly mistreating americans. and so that is a priority that we have to respect and acknowledge. the other thing that i would say is that these funds that are going to go back to iran, however they are going to be used, are not funds that are controlled by the u.s., they are not funds that have ever
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been in the u.s., there are funds that are held in korea oil revenue. it went into specific counts over the years. these sorts of accounts of have existed since 2012 when the trump administration -- down in countries like turkey, china, italy, and others. so, you know, it's a little bit disingenuous to say that u.s. government is paying iran this money. what's actually happening is that they have used a really kind of ingenious piece of leverage to their favor, and i think ultimately the truth is that six billion dollars is not going to change the equation, or the realities of the iranian regime. it is a regime that is, failing it is a regime that cannot afford keeps off going. it is trying desperately to get money wherever it can. and for a country of 85 million people, $6 million is not that much. >> jason rezaian, my friend, as always, we are thankful for you. appreciate it. >> thank you.
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world, for others face a series of assault charges. earlier today, montgomery mayor steven marine spoke with my colleague jonathan capehart, right here on msnbc. and commended what he sees there in the days since. >> our police chief in our police department have done a great job, the community has been very very supportive of those on the, both those who live, here those who were able to provide video and eyewitness accounts, all of them have been very helpful. and i think our approach this has been methodical. it's been very intense than it has been something that we have left no stone unturned. to get to the bottom of this situation. >> coming up, former president trump making a very quick trip to iowa today, and it was quick. he is already getting ready to leave. peddling the same election lies that we have seen for years. but how could that look with indictment member for possibly coming next week? we are live from the iowa state fair, coming up next.
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and he is already leaving. we are looking at kind of a shaky shot there because the former president as you see right, there this was moments ago i believe, addressing reporters there in des moines. preparing to leave after a quick visit to the iowa state fair today in his post-public appearance as a judge in the election interference case, issuing a protective order. limiting discussion of some discovery evidence in that case.
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he and other gop 2024 contenders came to -- sit for less than two hours and is heading back now on his plane. also asked by our own lawn hill, if he will take a plea deal in georgia, specifically because charges are leveled in that state, of course waiting for that timeline, looking like earlier this weekend some more news on that. and he said absolutely not. want to go now to ali vitali, who is standing by for us in the iowa state fair. where she now? oh, a little less exciting. nonetheless, always good to see you, ali batali. talk to us. it was a short visit for the former president of the united states to say the least. how was it received? >> it short and frenzy visit, yasmin. while we were above the state fair, trump was below, walking the street around me, just behind where i am right now. he had with him a cautery of lawmakers, including those from florida meant to sort of implicitly troll florida governor ron desantis.
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many of the members of that florida delegation on the federal level have endorsed the former president. and, look becomes, of course, against the backdrop of the fact that trump is still defending both against the three indictments that he has already faced, and then also looking ahead to the one that we expect to see happen in fulton county, georgia, next week. that one and the other federal charges on january 6th were always, i think, when i spoke to my sources the ones that people were most interested in in terms of the evidence that was had and the ways the prosecutors would present that. now, of course, you are seeing trump tell von the -- that he wouldn't take a plea deal. in fulton county. i actually asked governor nikki, former governor of south carolina nikki haley about it, if that would be the best scenario for her party and for this country? if trump were to take a plea deal. she said, of course he has to defend himself. but at the same time, it is going to be a lot of time spent in courtrooms. one of the places trump is not planning to spend time though, yasmin, is potentially at the next debate?
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many candidates already saying that they have qualified and they are support the eventual nominee, which gets them on the stage. here is what nikki haley said when i said does trump have to be on that stage, watch. >> we are expecting potentially one in fulton county this week. once you get into charles season, it seems like it's gonna be a lot of 2024, what is your best-case scenario of that for your party? should the former president take a plea? is that your hope for how this plays out? >> look, he has to defend himself, i mean, this is, he has the right to defend himself. he has got to go do that, and he is gonna spend a lot of time in courts and with judges and with lawyers. and we will let him do that. but we have a country to save. and i'm focused on talking about the issues that really matter to americans, americans aren't talking about it. i don't even know what number of indictment it is, i don't know how many charges it is. >> so, look, we do know that it is the third indictment. frankly, talking -- >> pretty sure she does too >>. it's clear that there are rare of that too, yasmin. i think will be very difficult to not be aware of the fact
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that the former president has been indicted multiple times on multiple charges in each of those cases. nevertheless, that helps the candidates to argue it, because what their goal his here on the ground is to try to continue introducing themselves to the public. but really we know from past election cycles, the debates really are the starting bell. but the fair does always present an opportunity. this is a big stop. the fact that trump came here, he's despite the fact that he has largely ignored estate, it really does underscore that. >> yeah, i would, say i am sure nikki haley knows exactly what number indictment is, as do many of the people that are attending the iowa state fair there as well. considering how major news it is, and how unprecedented is for the former president of the united states to be indicted three times and possibly for, this coming week. just so folks don't talk to me on twitter, venus last time we saw batali, the reason i said it wasn't as exciting, she was high above the iowa state fair on a chairlift, showing us a beautiful scene. >> you know what -- >> go ahead. >> i brought you fair snacks, at least. >> okay. >> i did what i could.
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>> gotta love a good fair snack. but corn dogs are my favorite, i have to say. corn dogs are my favorite, next time bring me a corn dog. >> i will go on the hunt for that. >> ali batali, thank you. coming, up everybody, reverend al sharpton joining me live to talk about exclusive interview with vice president kamala harris, what she says this next presidential election is really about. plus, a huge democratic victory in ohio. for abortion rights and for basic democratic principles. i will speak to ohio congresswoman chantal brown, a key player in that victory. about what it could mean beyond her state. we will be right back. ♪ chevy silverado has what it takes to do it all. with up to 13 camera views. and the z71 off-road package. ♪ you ok? yeah. any truck can help you make a living.
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republican state governments trying and failing to push abortion restrictions into law since the overturn of roe last summer. abortion is been on the ballot in seven states since then. including four with republican majority electorates. and then all seven cases, voters have made their stance is clear, and abortion rights have one time and time again. joining us now to talk about this is ohio democratic congresswoman shontel brown. congresswoman, thank you for joining us, appreciate it. you worked incredibly hard on this measure. the voters showed up in the middle of august, i think a lot of republicans depended on that's not happening. what does it mean to you? >> well, thanks again for having me. it means that democracy won the day on tuesday. and i want to thank the voters and the volunteers who showed up and work to beat this brazen and blatant attack, to really suppress and silence the voice of the voters. but now we have to get ready for the actual abortion referendum in november. tuesday was about protecting the one person one vote
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majority rule. and that has been a precedent that has worked well for ohio for over 100 years. so as i said before, and it is no question in my mind that the path to victory runs through ohio. it has often been said so goes ohio so goes the nation. so what happened was that the people of ohio showed up in record numbers during what was expected to be a low voter turnout dog days of summer sneak attack maga republican extremists manufacture election. and yes, we are certainly excited and encouraged by the results, but you cannot take our eyes off of the prize. we cannot take our foot off the gas. because we know that republicans are relentless when it comes to their attacks on freedom. particularly when it comes to women and people of color. so they are not going to stop. >> we have seen this kind of dog days of summer, middle of the night, try and fail, passage of these more restrictive abortion rights and states across the country. including in your state. but now as i mentioned earlier,
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oh for seven in implementing these extreme restrictions. where do you see this fight for abortion rights going on a national level? >> well what's satin frustrating is that they continue to dig their heels in. this is simply another example of elections having consequences. now, we saw what happened in 2016 with voters that did not show up. when they took it for granted when we had one of the most qualified candidates to run for presidency against one of the least qualified who ever thought about it. and because people stayed at home and it didn't show up, or they took it for granted. or even people in my own party voted third party, we and it up with a president who was able to appoint not, one not two, but three supreme court justices. and this is a result again of elections having consequences. leon feline, 16 17, 18, 19, or even 20. but last year, we felt the decision of the deposition
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which has reversed course on decades of precedent. what it means to me is that they don't quit so we can't quit. we have got to make sure we build on this momentum, and that we show up in the same numbers or even greater when it comes to this november election. republicans, are they don't take these moments, they make them real movements. they continue to build on them. we continue to do the same, we cannot quit. >> this wasn't about abortion rights as you talk about, it was about democracy as well. majority still rules. had republicans gotten their way, and what they wanted in this vote, you would've had a 60% to majority -- putting abortion rights in jeopardy. i want to take a look at this map, even seeing 15 counties that actually voted for donald, trump voting against this very measure. how important was this measure for democracy in the state of ohio?
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>> so when you think about democracy, and when you think about the record numbers. and you look at that map, and you see that this was not just a democratic issue, this was a republican and independent issue. and many of us felt the same way. the good news is that while the maga extremist republicans tried to under-handedly present an election, there were others who recognize that this would be damaging to what ohio would be in the future. i am happy to see folks like former governor -- stand up and former governor -- stood up and stood in line with democracy. voting should never be a partisan issue. and it hasn't been up until recently. so you have to ask yourself, why is that. and i think that it is because republicans recognize the numbers are not on their side. so they implement this if you can't beat him cheatham strategy. but people are paying attention, and i could not be more proud of the people of ohio for the
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way they showed up on tuesday. to send a message to the rest of the country that voters are paying attention, and when it comes to their -- we are going to do everything to fight to protect. some >> congresswoman chantal brown, thank you. >> thank you. >> vice president kamala harris saying democracy itself is very much on the ballot in 2024. she sat down for an exclusive interview with -- national at -- reverend sharpton. who asked her what she wakes up thinking about every single day? >> our democracy. whenever i think everything is at stake right now, when our democracy is intact, it strengthens the people, it protected and fights for fundamental freedoms, individual rights, it's a fight for order against chaos. it strengthens. on the other hand, democracy, incredibly fragile.
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it will only be as strong as our willingness to fight for it. and right now, there are many forces that are attempting to purposely, i believe, we can our democracy. >> reverend al sharpton is joining me now. rev, as always, my friend, it is good to talk to you. it is interesting, i don't know if it is for the interview i just had with congresswoman chantal brown, but the efforts that were being made by republicans in the state of ohio it seems are exactly what the vice president is talking about? the efforts that are being made to up and democracy in this country? >> that is absolutely right, what -- congresswoman chantal brown was talking about. and she said that when she wakes up in the morning thinking about democracy, -- shaping up the --
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located in the court, -- maybe undermine the election of 2020, if they were able to get some attempt not to certify that election. they were making it, it became the role of the day in this country, that you can undermine what voters have chosen. respond to allegations and decide who was going to be head of state. and that is an autocratic framework that we must all resist against all racial lines, democracy is at stake -- very strong and saying. that >> drive, there's nothing want to get, because the release of peace out on the vice president titled this. it is time to give kamala harris her do. arguing, essentially, that her accomplishments and value to this administration have in fact been overlooked.
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did she address this at all in her interview with you? and what do you make of that if you agree with that headline? why is that? do you think it's race and gender? >> she addressed in the sense of saying what xi and president had worked toward, and what they have accomplished. but she didn't address the president, she talked about how she grew up with a mother who was an activist. and she was ready for the battle, she says she is not going to lead democracy, the rights of blacks, the rights of the latino, hate crimes against jews, and the attacks on women, and end under her watch. and she is more committed to making sure that we fight the fight and win. to protect what we have achieved. and she has been trying to answer critics that will never be satisfied, because they
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don't want to there. i do think a lot of it has to do with gender and race. anytime you have cabinets under republican nomination process, talking about a vote for biden's vote for harris. they are not only trying to win in a desecrating way referring to the presidents age. they are trying to imply, do you want this black woman to be president, and that resonates with some of their far right massage interest and racist base. and i think it is a sad day if we let those forces take over these countries. >> you also asked about concerns about a potential sagging black vote in 2024. does she have plans to address that? >> she did, and we talked about how i think it's a question of getting out to the black community our interest. it's not about -- voting for her of the president as personalities, it's about agenda.
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on the inside, you have them that said we want to do everything from the george floyd bill to the john lewis voting bill. on the other side, we have autocrats. and i think that once the black community understands that messaging, most do, even more, the turnout will be what it needed to be in the past. >> reverend al sharpton, thank, you sir, appreciate it. make sure to catch the rubs full exclusive interview with the vice president, today by pm eastern on politicsnation. only here on msnbc, we'll be right back. (fan #1) there ya go! that's what i'm talkin' about! (josh allen) is this your plan to watch the game today? (hero fan) uh, yea. i have to watch my neighbors' nfl sunday ticket. (josh allen) it's not your best plan. but you know what is? myplan from verizon. switch now and they'll give you nfl sunday ticket from youtubetv, on them.
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told you about this a short time ago, former president donald trump asked by nbc's vaughn hillyard about the potential for a plea deal in georgia. and now we have the sound, take a listen. >> a chance to take a plea deal? >> we did nothing, wrong we don't ever take a plea. we don't take plead eels, it's
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a wiseguy question. it's a wiseguy, we don't take plead eels because i did nothing wrong. it's called election interference. >> will not take up legal because he did nothing wrong, wiseguy question. from our own vaughn hillyard, all right, want to turn back to hawaii now. along with the 80 people known dead in a wildfire disaster. there is a massive search and rescue underway now. police saying the number of missing maybe as high as 1000. then, all -- tells nbc's -- that she is trying to find her grandparents who are normally in an assisted living facility. >> i don't want to tell her that we are looking for, grandma, we are looking for you. if you can reach a phone, call us, let us know where you are at. or anybody can see her, you know, is with, her nose who she is, on tact us. we just want to find some contact to get her. >> others are trying to help
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the survivors with me now. by phone is traeger, and he is the co-owner of gemini stanley charges which has been helping with people and supplies in this disaster. first and foremost, thanks for all that you are doing for the folks down -- one of the last couple of days been like for you? >> surging out, the last few days have been really tough here with the local community. we are lucky enough -- if you other vessels in the fleet. so we are turning it in to -- poke, rainwater, to all the folks here and west mally. and kind of holly beach. we are picking up supplies over in alida harbour on the other side of the island due to the total loss of life ann arbor here in -- so we have got great support from local communities. the folks that did not lose anything are hoping everyone
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can come together here. and i really like seeing what we are doing on that to help the folks a lot with everything. >> what have you been hearing from the folks there. because we have been told or are learning that in some areas -- what did that mean for people knowing that they had to evacuate. they had to get out? there are still so many questions as to why people didn't hear those sirens going off. >> yeah. >> when they should have? >> yeah,, in reality, i don't even know if the sirens managed to kick, and they had no warning. i was actually en route up to our office up there. and she turned around because i saw some small smoke. but i was like, okay, we saw lost cell service, we lost power, we have had virus before and didn't think it was a big deal. and then the wind -- gusting down the valley there in coma. and it just turned all of line
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a into a tender box in a matter of, it was too quick. yeah, we watched the fire department, with their limited resources, they were on the other side of the island, a lot of them were called out of the country, and the -- they told me maybe half a dozen firefighters on this side. and our first responders were doing the best they could, and they just had to keep her shooting and her shooting as the winds were just insane. we had a real high pressure system dumped down rate over the county here over maui. and due to the result of hurricane dora passing several hundred miles south of the state here. so it came out of nowhere real fast, really, really fast. and it is just a tragic situation for a lot of folks. >> i know you have been an all hands on deck situation, you and your friends racing, i believe, $200,000 or so on a gofundme page. also with the supplies, getting people back and forth. do you have enough supplies, do
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you have enough for what people need? right now? >> you know, the best thing we can do at this point is to get cash directly to these folks. we have helped maui now.com. that is organized in conjunction with the wayne dyer family foundation. we are running that for the gofundme. the rest of the island was not affected by this. so at least we have the infrastructure. we have the boards. we do have support from the heavy equipment over there and whatnot. but yeah, anything we can get to help these local communities. they don't even have credit cards, they don't have i.d.s, they lost everything. so it seems cash is king right now, like i said, have maui now.com is the best avenue that we can do to help get support to these folks. >> trey, just quickly for people that are watching, what do you want them to know about what you have seen? >> i tell you, what we have seen a lot of tragedy, it is tough seeing generational families here. but letting you know that the
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local community is coming together and there is a lot of positives that come out of this situation. we just have got to keep it up. we don't want to lose momentum, we don't want to lose steam, because the rebuilding process is going to be substantial here. but let everyone know that any thoughts, prayers, and financial assistance is greatly appreciated. >> trey gardens, you keep it up as, well we are thankful for you and all the help that you are providing down there for the folks in maui. thank you. >> thank you. >> that wraps it for me, everybody, i'm yasmin vossoughian, back in the chair tomorrow, two pm eastern, simon starts right now. >> greetings, everyone, you are watching symone. we are following breaking news in the georgia election interference case. district attorney fani willis will present her case to a grand jury starting early next week. now, that is according to the atlanta journal of constitution. we will dig into this sign that a fourth trump nightmare could be imminent. ,
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