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>> you can see "the cottage" on broadway now through october 29th. thank you both very much. you guys are fun. thanks for coming on the show today. take care. and that does it for us this morning. ana cabrera picks up the coverage right now. right now on "ana cabrera reports" eight days and counting, the clock running down for donald trump and his allies to surrender at a jail in georgia. this hour the ambitious time line for the trial in that case. plus, a texas woman arrested for threatening to kill the judge in the federal election interference case. the threat, according to police, quote, you are in our sights. also ahead, the death toll from the hawaii wildfires now at 111. 1,000 still missing. the growing demand for an investigation into what happened. and later, another twist in the contentious legal fight over a widely used abortion pill.
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what it means for access to this key drug. thanks so much for joining us. it's 10:00 eastern. i'm ana cabrera reporting from new york, and this morning even as we wait for donald trump to surrender, we already know when georgia prosecutors want him in court for trial. let's start with the surrender, the former president and his 18 allies have until august 25th to show up at atlanta's rice street jail a week from tomorrow. that as we learn fulton county district attorney fani willis is eyeing a quick time line, an early september arraignment followed by a march trial. also today, new concerns about the safety of those involved in prosecuting the former president after security threats in two separate cases including a death threat against a federal judge. nbc's garrett haake joins us now
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from the fulton county courthouse, and a former spokesperson for the house january 6th select committee. and michael zeldin, thank you all for joining us. what more are we learning about the potential time line here? >> well, ana, this filing from the fulton county d.a.'s office yesterday lays out a very ambitious time line that has an arraignment the week of september 5th, basically right after labor day and a trial starting march 4th. if you overlay that with the political calendar, you'll see that's the day before super tuesday, one of the biggest days on the primary calendar every year. so politically very problematic time line for the former president and one that his team is almost certain to fight. and for folks who have been watching all these cases play out over the last couple of months, remember that here in fulton county, the process is different than what we've seen in the past. this surrender is still expected to be by the end of next week. that's separate from the gap b.
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again, this is the proposal from the fulton county d.a.'s office, which doesn't take into account the trump team's response. which if we know anything about how they've approached all of these cases over the last several months, it will be to aggressively push for delay. >> michael, does a march 4th trial date sound reasonable to you? >> well, it does in the sense that unless you're going to push these cases all off until after the election you have just these small windows within which to operate, you've got an october case with hush money in late march. you've got may trial. you've got july trial, so when you put this stuff all in, so she has to look for windows within which to put it, and this is the best really opportunity for her to try to get her case in. otherwise it goes to after the election, which is what trump wants, but which no prosecutor would tolerate. >> keep us honest, there are a
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lot of things that could delay this trial, especially when you have 19 total co-defendants. >> absolutely. i don't think by the time you get near a trial date, you'll have 19 people left. i think because of the rico charges and the mandatory minimum jail sentences that a attend to that, you're going to have a lot of these second tier people trying to negotiate pleas for something other than rico so they don't have the mandatory five years in prison, and if they have some evidence to give relevant to the prosecutor's case in chief, then they'll try to strike a deal. so i don't expect that when this case goes to trial you'll have more than six or seven people left. that's just a guess. >> hannah, the house select committee gave information from their investigation to georgia, and this is clearly a much more sprawling case compared to what we've seen from jack smith's indictments. 19 people indicted here. any surprises? >> i don't think so, ana. i think we do see a very sweeping look at the 2020 stolen election case in georgia, which
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is not surprising if you read the january 6th committee's report. in the acts that fani willis talks about in her indictment, you see different states mentioned and i think when you read it and when you read the january 6th committee report you see this as well. almost on a daily basis how trump was interfering in the election in georgia and also in other states, michigan, pennsylvania, this was something he was doing on a daily basis and something he was doing with those individuals you see on that list around him that were his accomplices in this. one thing i want to say about this georgia case, something that's different is that cameras are in the courtroom for this. we saw the impact of presenting evidence to the american people and having not just a jury look at this evidence but also the american public, which i think is really important for our democracy and for the presidential election as we come up on 2024. >> and michael, this jail is infamous in the area for the
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dilapidated conditions the georgia aclu says there's a high rate of inmate deaths, people waiting extremely long times behind bars and grime covering nearly every inch of the building. "the new york times," in fact, documented one story where a detainee who was only in jail for a misdemeanor was found dead in his cell covered in bites from bedbugs according to the inmate's lawyer. you can see how rough some of the conditions are or were for him. do you think these conditions may be a wake-up call to some of trump's co-defendants? might they start thinking about flipping? >> well, it should be a wake-up call to the authorities in georgia to fix this. i've been in that jail. i've represented people who are in that jail, and it's horrible, and that's what the wake-up call should be, ana. but for sure in addition, anyone who sees those pictures that you just put up that faces time in that jail should be very
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interested in working out a disposition that doesn't send them there at all or if at all for a very short period of time. it's a terrible place to be. prison is a terrible place to be, whether it's one day or not, it's just a terrible place to be. >> garrett, we're also learning some trump supporters posted the names and addresses of the georgia grand jurors online, one post even said, quote, these jurors have signed their death warrant by falsely indicting president trump, end quote. what more do we know about how this happened and what's being done to protect these jurors? >> reporter: yeah, ana, it's disturbing. this is due to a quirk in the georgia law that when the indictment is filed the names of the grand jurors are made public. they can be accessed the same way reporters access them. in this case the names and associated addresses have
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started to pop up on some pro-trump forums and websites. right now the sheriff's office isn't commenting on this. it is not clear what steps, if any, are being taken to protect these grand jurors and sort of how serious any of these threats are at this moment, but it just speaks to the broader environment here where you have judges, attorney, prosecutors and now grand jurors getting caught up in, you know, personal attacks for their roles in the justice systems' efforts to investigate the former president. >> let's talk about the threat to a judge, michael, where we're learning a texas woman has been arrested accused of threat tong kill judge tanya chutkan, the judge in trump's federal election interference case, and according to the arrest affidavit, this woman abigail joe said in a message, quote, if trump doesn't get elect instead 2024, we are coming to kill you so tread lightly. michael, how concerned are you about the potential for violence in the months ahead as we get closer to trial? >> very concerned.
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i think that if you just look at what happened to fani willis in the shay woman -- i'm sorry, i'm forgetting her name. >> yeah, shay and ruby, yeah, the election workers. >> and the testimony that they offered about how it ruined their lives, you have threats that are physical threats of, you know, physical injury, and then you have these verbal threats which ruin your lives. and i think that all of the people involved in this case on the anti-trump side of it have to be concerned about this, and i think law enforcement really has to step up its game to make sure these online threats and actual in-person threats are addressed madly and with the full weight of law because it's just not tolerable that people who are serving the government as they should as witnesses or jurors or prosecutors should have to withstand these sort of
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abuses. it's just a terrible situation, ana, that the police have to get on top of immediately. >> and hannah, the january 6th committee investigated how words can mobilize people to attack the capitol. your reaction to these security incidents? >> trump commands his supporters through his words and his actions. through his posts on truth social over the past week it's very clear how he feels about how wrongly he is being treated in this case. the january 6th committee had a man named steven heirs come and testify where he said that they went home on january 6th because trump told them to, and if he had told them to go home at 1:30, his followers would have gone home then as well. you know, i think these words against the judge are eerily similar to the chants of hang mike pence on january 6th. these are violent actions. we know that trump's followers, follow him, will do what he says through his words or lack of
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words condemning it. it's very clear what his intentions are. january 6th was one instance where a lot of different people came together for a specific purpose. i think it's going to be interesting to see the difference in political violence over the course of the next year, but we need to take this seriously and the leader, trump, should condemn this. i don't think he will. >> well, we hope there is no political violence. i think that is the fear certainly with these escalating threats. hanna muldavin, michael zeldin and garrett haake, thank you for joining us. seeking answers in the ashes of hawaii. >> sorry, grandma. i hope i see you again. >> i'll talk with a member of the cajun navy ground force
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about their efforts to help. plus, air scares, the latest, a pilot dying mid flight from a medical emergency. and later, three people dead from a rare but dangerous flesh-eating bacteria, why we could see more cases like this. we're back in just one minute. i. businesses need 5g solutions today. that's why they choose t-mobile for business. mlb partners with t-mobile to not only enhance the fan experience, but to advance how the game is played. aaa relies on t-mobile's network to stay connected nationwide, so they can help get their members back on the road. and we're helping pano ai innovate, to stop the spread of wildfires. now's the time to see what america's largest 5g network can do for your business.
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welcome back. the death toll from the hawaii fires rose again to 111 overnight. that number still is expected to keep climbing with a thousand still missing, and just a few of the dead have been identified so far, authorities revealing most remains are just ash. also this morning, potential new signs about what may have sparked one of the fires on maui. surveillance video from the night before shows this sudden flash turning into fire later in the morning. the official cause of these fires still under investigation.
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joining us now from maui is nbc news correspondent steve patterson. steve, let's start with the search for the dead and missing. it seems like such a different, slow, very emotional process i have to imagine for those there in maui. >> reporter: well, it's grueling on both ends, the input president is output. as you can imagine, it's a wide area. there are so many different structures and cars and crevices to go through. in each case they are finding the dead, and they are finding them in ways that are so badly burned that they're going to have to use some sort of specialized dna matching to families that provide that information in order to identify the dead. so far they've only done about a third of the total search area, and you know, 111 people have been at least identified and notified as dead. so that process just takes such a long time. you've got such a long list, as you mentioned of the missing, still over a thousand people
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that questions are swirling again about the process they're using. it got a little testy last night during a press conference where reporters were trying to figure out if maybe there was a higher count than was being led on. here's the response from the police chief. listen to this. >> with all due respect, we haven't made notifications, and i am not going to say how we found people when i haven't even told their families. how do i do that? you know, have we found remains that are maybe smaller than other remains, i'm not going to sit here and sensationalize that, but the answer to that is yes. >> reporter: another thing that's difficult is that list of the missing. families are sort of agonizing with maybe four people missing or five people or have even heard of nine people in one family that they are still trying to locate, very difficult for people that are seeking answers now days after this tragic fire. >> it's been over a week
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already, and steve, we saw that surveillance video with the flash, but the official cause of the fairs remains under investigation. still, there is growing pressure for an investigation into the cause and the power company, right? where does that stand? >> reporter: so those are two separate things. first of all, with the investigation we know the state attorney general is supposed to be doing a comprehensive review of everything that happened from the response to the sirens, so all the details that we know about and they should have full power to do that, conducting interviews, taking in evidence, and so on, but there is calls from the legislature to appoint a third-party independent investigator that can make maybe more decisions than would be first thought, so that's a part of that. and then meanwhile, you have the cause, of course, hawaiian electric now facing multiple lawsuits. we knew that, but we didn't know necessarily how deep it went. this is allegations of not just negligence but gross negligence
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that there was mismanagement going back years, that there was supposed to be stabilization projects for the grid, hardening the grid where you have high wind events like this one, and there was supposed to be more programs like an automatic shutoff in the case that there was a wind event when you have dry brush, that there would be something that just automatically takes care of the fact that it could spark something to cause a massive fire in this case. of course, you know, we've been discussing that there are complications to that. many officials have said that the power is necessary for the operation of things like medical devices within lahaina. it's part of the discussion that's being had but certainly very important to this whole thing. >> we do know there had been at least a high wind warning, so there was -- there was that forecasted in terms of the potential fire danger at the very least. steve patterson, thank you very much for your reporting, and people from all across the country are trying to go to
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hawaii to help in the search and relief efforts there on the ground including the cajun navy ground force. a louisiana-based volunteer group, and that group's ceo is joining us now from hawaii. robert, thanks for joining us and for your efforts, what you're doing there, what kind of work are you and your team members doing right now exactly? >> yeah, we are a boots on the ground organization. so we're really helping to organize the relief effort, you know, what you guys are showing is a lot of damage to obviously burned out homes and businesses. but a whole community didn't burn down, there are still people living in many homes in the area, and we're supporting those individuals as well as the volunteers and the workers coming into the community to help. there's no businesses, there's no food and water available anywhere. there's no electricity, and so we're providing all of those items to those individuals right now. >> i always think about the cajun navy and i think about hurricanes because so often we talk to you guys often in those
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situations when you're responding, but you're in those cases often in the boats trying to rescue people. are you and your teams on the ground going through some of these burned out areas trying to find those who may not have made it, trying to find those types of clues, i guess, for investigators who are trying to determine, you know, what happened here, or not part of that? >> no, we choose not to be a part of that effort. you know, there's so many layers to a disaster. i hate to say they're all the same but kind of the methods are the same for getting people moving forward. the first thing you do is you go and you check homes, whether it's a wildfire or flood or a hurricane or a tornado, you go home to home. you know, that's really important work, and it's -- you want trained professionals doing that and, you know, we could choose to do that. we've actually chosen a different route for our
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organization. these fires and tornados and floods and all the things that be are happening across the country create a crisis. they're horrible but they're very short lived the actual event. they change people's lives forever. we have chosen to get involved in the aftermath where people need help cleaning up or accessing fema assistance or navigating their lives moving forward. you know, we have a humanitarian crisis in our country right now, and it's the elderly. we have one in five americans are over the age of 65, and it's the baby boom, the children of the greatest generation, and so we help in the aftermath, and our unique ability is to bring in so many -- we call them spontaneous volunteers, using social media, and by doing that we have impacted, i mean, tens of thousands of people and helped them move to the next step. >> that's so wonderful. what do you see as the biggest need there in hawaii right now?
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>> sure. we are working -- we call it a safe camp, and we're handing out supplies and items to people. there's a real need for specific food, nonperishables, really i'll just say it's not like we need people to, you know, send things through amazon. we need companies to step up and send entire containers of certain really specific things, don't just load up a container with clothes and non-needed things. you have to know exactly what's needed. that is a tremendous need. we're very close to running out -- >> how do people know what's needed then? is there a list or a website you want to direct people to to find out what the need is specifically? >> sure, it's on our website at gocajunnavy.org. we list the items that are really needed for this long-term recovery effort. >> wonderful, thank you, robert, good day for what you're doing, and really great to speak with you. gosh, hearts are just with those
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folks in hawaii right now. >> there's a lot of tears being shed here. it is really -- these are beautiful people. it's some of the most amazing people i've ever met. it's a horrific thing to go through, and there's a lot of tears being shed here right now. >> sending a virtual hug to everybody there. thank you so much, robert, for joining us. stick with msnbc for continuing coverage of the hawaii wildfire relief efforts. we'll speak with danne criswell at 12:00 p.m. eastern. we're tracking a hurricane that could threaten the u.s. in the next couple of days in southern california. hurricane hillary is the first tropical threat to the u.s. this season, formed wednesday off mexico's coast and conditions are favorable for this storm to intensify. it's expected to bring intense rain to southern california as soon as early next week, and if it makes landfall, it would
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become only the fourth storm ever of at least tropical storm strength to hit this area. up next hear on ana cabrera reports, an escalating legal fight headed right to the supreme court. the future of a key abortion drug at stake. plus, a growing war of words between new york city's mayor and the governor over housing 100,000 migrants. (ella) fashion moves fast. setting trends is our business. we need to scale with customer demand... ...in real time. (jen) so we partner with verizon to take our operations to the next level. (marquis) with a custom private 5g network. (ella) with verizon business, we get more control of production, efficiencies, and greater agility.
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now to the latest in the contentious legal fight over access to a widely used abortion pill. a federal appeals court yesterday upheld parts of an april decision limiting access to the drug mifepristone. here's the deal, nothing changes right this moment. this ruling has no immediate impact, but it certainly makes things more complicated. let's bring in nbc news senior legal correspondent laura jarrett now. this fight's not over. talk to us about what yesterday's ruling means and what's next. >> what it means is that the justice department is running back to the supreme court after it had already taken up this case. the way it's structured, all the frenzy about is the pill on the market, not on the market, state were stockpiling it. now the supreme court is going to have to address it again, now that it's worked its way through the process. it's looking at a different question, what it's looking at is whether the fda was allowed
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to loosen a couple restrictions on access to this pill. it's not about the original approval anymore. it's all about a series of ways. you can see there starting around 2016 they made it easier to get. you can use it longer into your pregnancy. they allowed for a generic version, and then really important during covid they allowed you to get it through the mail. why is that important? particularly in states where you cannot get a surgical abortion, a lot of blue states have been mailing their pills to red states. so if the supreme court does nothing with this, decides not to take the case, this decision becomes operative. and this decision says you cannot mail it anymore nationwide. >> that would remove access for a lot of people even though it doesn't take the drug off the market. how soon would we have a decision from the supreme court? >> good question. they're not in session right now, but in september they take up a bunch of other cases to decide whether they agree to hear them or not. we might see some movement around this fall and ultimately they'll probably hear the case later this year. >> laura jarrett, good to see you, thank you.
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and congratulations by the way, she's the new co-anchor of saturday today starting september 9th. i'm so thrilled for you, my friend. >> thank you so much, appreciate it. also this morning, a new crash in the ongoing humanitarian crisis, how to care for migrants bussed to major cities from the border. now, this time this is a disagreement between two new york democrats, governor kathy hochul and the mayor of new york city, which has taken in more than 100,000 asylum seekers since last year. currently there are 58,000 in shelters. nbc's gabe gutierrez is outside the roosevelt hotel here in new york city, which has become a migrant intake center. so gabe, talk to us about the challenges new york's facing, and what's this disagreement about? >> the mayor is now trying to down play any friction between himself and the governor, but as you mentioned, this is the iconic roosevelt hotel, hundreds of migrants are being housed
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here. as you said, new york city now hitting that milestone, more than 100,000 migrants arriving here in the city since last year, and this all comes as the governor is now deploying more members of the national guard across the state. >> as new york city opens more shelters to house a record breaking migrant influx. >> close the border! >> reporter: this morning there's growing outrage over the city's response. >> do you get free wi-fi at all? i don't. >> reporter: mayor eric adams facing sharp criticism from a fellow democrat, governor kathy hochul whose lawyer sent a scathing letter saying the city faces a serious crisis but it's failed to accept the state's offers of assistance and should do more to act in a proactive manner. >> if her observation is that here's some things that you can do differently, we're all in. >> reporter: but by law, new york city is required to provide temporary housing to anyone who asks for it, and it's hit a new
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milestone, 100,000 migrants arriving here since last year, more than 58,000 are now in shelters. official estimate the cost to city taxpayers will skyrocket to $12 billion by 2025. in manhattan, the historic roosevelt hotel now housing asylum seekers. >> how long have you been here? >> carla from ecuador tells us she's lived here for two months with her 4-year-old daughter and just wants an opportunity to work. mayor adams is asking the federal government for expedited work permits and has repeatedly blasted the biden administration for not doing enough. the white house won't say whether it plans to declare a federal state of emergency over immigration, but does point out it's given new york city more than $100 million in aid. >> we take this very seriously. >> reporter: across the country, other major cities are also struggling with the influx. massachusetts governor just declared a state of emergency. >> we've been expanding and continuing to look for housing and shelter opportunities.
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and it's unsustainable. >> reporter: federal authorities are also investigating the death of a 3-year-old migrant girl who died while traveling from texas to chicago. meanwhile, here in new york state, erie county, which includes buffalo, has asked new york city to stop sending migrant there is gabe gutierrez, soon to be senior white house correspondent, thanks so much . up next, turning the political tables, could donald trump time his surrender in georgia to next week's gop primary debate. they may not be on the stage, but democrats plan to be at the debate. new reporting on how they're lacking to rain on the gop's political parade. parade who needs that much more tide? (crashing sounds) everyone's gonna need more tide. it's a mess out there. that's why there's 85% more tide in every power pod. -see? -baby: ah.
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welcome back. we are now less than a week away from the first gop debate, but as donald trump's rivals look for their moments in the
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spotlight, the former president could completely steal their thunder by timing his surrender at a georgia jail to coincide with that debate. one former senior trump campaign aide telling nbc news it would be a smart plan for counterprogramming. let's bring in nbc news senior national politics reporter jonathan allen, host of symone on msnbc, symone sanders townsend, and former republican from georgia, david jolly. you write it's not at all hard to imagine trump turning his jailhouse arrival into an oj simpson in the bronco level spectacle, at the same time, ron desantis is telling the debate audience about how he lowered the state's pension assumptions. so is this still in the idea stage, or is this what we should expect to happen? >> that's a great question, ana. i think donald trump does what donald trump wants to do. people are supportive of him,
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some outside republican strategists noted to us that there's just a tremendous opportunity for him to steal the thunder of a republican debate, and again, this has been his party for the last eight years, and whether that means turning himself in to be booked at the same time as the debate, doing it earlier that day or potentially as one person suggested to us, the day after to sort of rob anybody who did well in the debate of momentum, there is a tremendous opportunity again for him to get in there and remind people that he is bigger to most republicans than any of the other candidates or maybe all the other candidates combined. >> if trump's not at the debate, do you think people will tune in? do you think it would have the same level of interest? >> absolutely not. i think what we do know to jonathan's point, donald trump is going to control the story line for that news cycle, either because he simply doesn't show up and so the story is all these other lesser known rivals aren't
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making the, you know, making the stage presence that donald trump otherwise would have, he's going to diminish their statute, you know, their standing in the race, or he's going to do as jonathan has reported, perhaps he submits himself for surrender or arrest that day or counter programs. but donald trump will absolutely control this narrative. importantly, politically for republicans because they believe he's a victim but nationally because we are about to see a former president surrender himself for arrest once again. >> symone, sticking with the debate conversation for a minute, our monica alba has exclusive reporting about what democrats are planning for next week's debate including a billboard campaign in milwaukee, contrasting the maga agenda with biden's record, they say, including a billboard truck that's going to circle the venue as the gop candidates take the stage. democrats, we know, will also have an ad campaign in battleground states. is this the best way for democrats to battle republican attacks against biden at the debate? >> i think it's a really
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important strategy and those ad campaigns the democrats are going to be putting up, this will also be the start of their paid media campaigns, specifically for african american and latino and hispanic media. i've been saying, ana, it's very important to get out there early, democrats cannot just afford to wait until, you know, next summer to start communicating to those very important base voters that they're going to need to turn out. i also think you're going to see some folks on the ground as monica had in her reporting as well, and the reality is there will be two people that will be attacked relentlessly on that debate stage come next week. donald trump and joe biden. and donald trump is going to do what he's going to do to blunt the criticism of himself and counter program and joe biden needs to do the same. >> john, i want to take a look at some polling from the "associated press" with republican voters specifically supporting trump. his support's very strong, 74%, but take a look at when you
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broaden out and look across the political spectrum the, 53% of americans say they will definitely not support trump if he is the republican nominee. another 11% say they would probably not support him in the 2024 election. trump hardly needs to try at the moment in the republican primary process, but are warning signs growing for the general? >> i mean, there were absolutely warning signs all over the place for donald trump or republicans about donald trump. some voters in the republican party say in interviews in new hampshire and iowa and other early states if they're worried donald trump gets nominated he can't win. that said, there were warning signs for the democrats too. if you look at the head to head polling between biden and trump, it's pretty much dead even right now. it matters because of the electoral college where people are shifting, that is to say where people are open to shifting. we've had close elections for basically the last generation
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with the exception of barack obama's win in 2008 and maybe you could argue his 2012 win, so i expect this election to be close no matter who the nominees are and the two parties and donald trump will try to make joe biden, i don't know, unappealing to more than 53% if trump is unappealing to 53%. >> okay, congressman, let's not talk about trump for a moment because he's blowing away the republican competition are right now, but the battle for second is getting kind of interesting. we saw chris christie making some gains, ron desantis slipping there, while a new fox news poll out just yesterday shows gains for vivek ramaswamy nationally. i'm wondering who do you think is maybe the dark horse in this race? who are you keeping your eye on? what do you make of desantis continuing to slip? >> yeah, look, i remain watchful of tim scott for a very specific reason. he has the traditional aspirational republican message. you can have qualms about his ideology certainly, but he
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hasn't really taken the bait too much. he slipped up, he doesn't fully want to hold trump accountable, but he's focused on an aspirational message he's spending a lot of money in iowa. the telling thing here is to your point, ana, everybody is now looking to be the replacement for desantis, not the replacement for trump. they're trying to move into desantis' spot. desantis was too hot too early, too confident, to arrogant, and now has hit a ceiling and it's down from here for him. >> symone, your take? >> look my take on the polls, the state polls i think are the most important here. you see chris christie doing well in new hampshire because that's where chris christie has invested. as david said, tim scott has put a lot of money into iowa and you see him doing well in iowa, chris christie has basically said, iowa is not my game. i'm going all in on new hampshire and other states. i would watch for more state polls. nbc news is going in on the iowa state poll.
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we're partnering with the local entity there. the state polls are what matter and where there is movement in the state polls, that is very reflective of the temperature of the voters. >> the voting is going to begin before we know it. symone sanders townsend, david jolly and jonathan thank you all. be sure to catch symone on the weekends at 4:00 p.m. eastern. a concerning new study showing cancer rates among younger americans, particularly women, are climbing. i'll talk to a doctor about what you knead to know. plus, three dead from cases of a rare flesh-eating bacteria, why we could see more of this dangerous illness. lness.
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from the bacteria, which is found in brackish salt water are rare but extremely dangerous. two people have died in connecticut, one in long island in just the last few weeks. officials say people with cuts or wounds should avoid going in warm sea water, and people with compromised immune systems shouldn't eat raw or undercooked shell shellfish. oysters are particularly risky here. keep a close eye out for symptoms which include stomach pain, fever, and chills. another troubling new health report this morning, a new study just published in the journal of the american medical association shows cancer cases are on the rise for younger americans, in particular women between the ages of 30 and 39 are being diagnosed with more cases of gastrointestinal, endocrine and breast cancer and experts are looking for a clear explanation as to why. joining us now is msnbc medical contributor dr. natalie azar. doctor, thanks for being here. this is pretty scary sounding.
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do we have any idea of what kind of factors are leading to this increase? >> you know what, ana, in situations like this we would always love to be able it to point to one or two things that are easily fixable. like a lot of things in medical it's multifactorial, experts are pointing to increasing rates of obesity and overweight, and a lot of these things that are, in fact, behavioral or environmental, smoking, alcohol use always has been a culprit and even more so in the last couple of years as alcohol use has increased but then just exposures to other carcinogenic compounds. how our gut is changing with our environment. if anything, ana, these results has really been a call to action for researchers to really try to further elucidate why we are seeing these patterns. >> as one doctor said regarding these younger women, this is a population that has had little focus in cancer research. why is that?
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>> well, younger people in general and women in general, you know, historically we really learned the hard way over the last number of decades that research that focuses predominantly on older individuals and men excludes a significant proportion of the population. it that not only women between the ages of 30 and 39, but also other sort of marginalized groups like alaska native and pacific islander and asian and hispanic populations were also overrepresented in these cancers. so, again, you know, this sort of gestalt of cancer occurs in older people, not always true. the absolute number still occurs in older people, but the trend of cancers happening in younger folks and especially in these other communities is something that we just can no longer ignore. >> we mentioned some of the cancers on the rise and it is not just breast cancer for women, for example, what things can younger women do to help
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identify risk factors and do we need to rethink how age is factored into things like screening tests? >> yeah, that's where we're moving. so, for example, with thyroid cancers, thyroid cancers are increasing and there is no protocol for standard screening in women or men of average risk. that might need to change. there is currently no protocol for ovarian cancer screening as we know all too well. there has been a movement in the last couple of years to lower, for example, the starting age of colorectal cancer screening, great. that's a good first move. to the bodies that are making screening recommendations, they like to be evidence-based. this is going to feed into that evidence, ana. and i don't know how long it is going to take, is it going to be a generation? i think we will start to see some changes and tweaking for a person at home who is hearing this, always be your own advocate. if you're not satisfied with the answers you're getting, talk to your doctor about this, we might need to think outside the box and start looking for cancers in
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okay. if you're a nervous flyer, this next story might be tough to watch. take a look at this. a southwest airlines plane engine in flames shortly after takeoff. it was going from houston to cancun. thankfully this plane was able to make an emergency landing and no one was hurt. there was another scary situation happening on board an international flight from miami to chile after the pilot died midflight, forcing his crew to jump into action. nbc's tom costello has the
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details on both of these incidents. tom? >> reporter: good day. so this looks like a compressor stall on the southwest flight. that's when the -- there is an air flow issue with the engine as a result it starts to backfire and it can belch out some fire out the back. it can really shake the plane and scare people. bottom line is the pilots needed to shut the engine down, then land on a single engine, which you can do safely back at houston. the other incident though involves something more serious, a pilot who died midflight. >> southwest with an emergency. >> reporter: this was the terrifying moment for passengers aboard a southwest flight tuesday night as flames shot out one of the aircraft's engines, shortly after leaving houston's airport. the flight bound for cancun forced to turn back. >> 307, you still have one engine shutdown, is that correct? >> reporter: the plane made a successful emergency landing in
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houston. >> the passengers' lives were not at imminent risk. this is an abnormal situation, but one we train for. >> reporter: flight aware data shows the plane was only in the air for about 27 minutes before making the emergency landing. southwest tells nbc news the plane experienced a mechanical issue shortly after takeoff, and that a different aircraft continued the flight to cancun. from one flight scare in houston to another in miami, after one of three pilots aboard a flight en route to chile died midflight from a medical emergency. two other pilots on board diverted the plane to panama for an emergency landing, according to the airline. passengers on board applauded the flight crew for landing the plane safely. and expressing their gratitude, again, in the airport. they tell nbc news all the necessary protocols were followed to try to help and save
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the pilot, who had been with the airline for 25 years. >> there is a lot that goes on in preparation for these abnormal circumstances to protect passengers. and as a passenger, that's probably one thing we can rest assured of and take in comfort when we do experience something like this. >> reporter: the faa does require airlines to carry a minimum amount of medical equipment on board. that includes some drugs, a stethoscope, a defibrillator, but oftentimes there is not much you can do if somebody is in that critical of a condition. ana, back to you. >> such a shame. tom costello, thank you very much for your reporting. that's going to do it for us today. thanks for joining us. we'll see you back here tomorrow, same time, same place. as always, i appreciate your company. and for now, i'm ana cabrera reporting from new york. up next, jose diaz-balart will talk with u.s. ambassador to japan rahm emanuel about president biden's summit tomorrow with the leaders of japan and south korea. jose picks up our coverage right
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now. good morning. it is 11:00 a.m. eastern, 8:00 a.m. pacific. and i am jose diaz-balart. in maui, new demands for an independent investigation into what caused the devastating wildfires as a number of people killed continues to climb. we'll speak with a survivor who lost it all except for one thing, found miles away from where her home once stood. in georgia, a proposed date for president trump to go on trial for allegedly trying to overturn the election results in 2020. this as a woman is arrested for allegedly threatening to kill the federal judge overseeing trump's criminal case in d.c. in texas, an update on the humanitarian crisis at the border. new details about who came up with the idea to put those buoys in the rio grande to block migrants from crossing into the united states. and president biden about to hold an important meeting with two other world leaders at camp david. we'll talk

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