tv Chris Jansing Reports MSNBC August 17, 2023 10:00am-11:01am PDT
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>> gabe gutierrez, thank you so much. that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." follow us on social media @mitchell reports. "chris jansing reports" starts right now. ♪♪ good day, i'm chris jansing live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. troubling new details today about the sick and twisted threats being made in donald trump's name. are they just a sign of what's to come, and how might the judge on the receiving end respond including what it means for trump's chances of delaying his d.c. trial. plus, the heartache, new fury, and finger pointing on the island of maui as the death toll rises to 111. the governor admitting mistakes were made, little comfort to residents who say they had no warning and lost everything. and conservatives who never found proof of voter fraud in 2020 are now turning to an army
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of amateurs to look for it in 2024. the new tools that depending on your take, either encourages activism or vigilanteism, aimed at finding potentially questionable registrations. could it work, or is it a recipe for a new class of election day chaos? we'll dig into that coming up as well. but we start with the vile and dangerous threats aimed at multiple people involved in donald trump's legal cases, adding new weight and worry to an already challenging security situation at his multiple trials. in texas, a woman has been charged after leaving a voice mail for judge tanya chutkan, the woman presiding over trump's conspiracy trial in d.c. she starts by calling her the n word, then says according to the affidavit, quote, if trump doesn't get elected in 2024, we're coming to kill you. so tread lightly. referring to her with another slur, and then threatening, you will be targeted personally, publicly, your family, all of
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it. and the judge isn't the only one. members of the fulton county grand jury had their names listed in the indictment but nbc news has learned their addresses have now also been published on a fringe website, and they're circulating on far right message boards. one user posted that the jurors had, quote, signed their death warrant as soon as they indicted donald trump. i want to bring in nbc's ryan reilly who's been following developments in both stories. joyce vance is a former u.s. attorney, law professor at the university of alabama and an msnbc legal analyst, and barbara comstock is a lawyer who served as republican congresswoman from virginia. good to have all of you here. i want to start, ryan, with the threats against the judge incredibly disturbing, racist, vile stuff. what more can you tell us about it? >> yeah, and sadly somewhat predictable. i mean, this was sort of telegraphed from the very beginning. whenever there's, say, a person of color who crosses donald trump, you can see some of the
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language that he uses in reference to them, frequently he's called them racist, just made these baseless claims against them is this indicator to a lot of his supporters. this week he used a word that rhymes with the n word in one of his posts which set off a lot of vile attacks on those individuals. so this is really just sort of par for the course at this point, but what we saw in this instance was actually this threat come in just after judge chutkan was named the judge and actually, what we're learning is this arrest took place on friday, actually when chutkan had an appearance in the case, her first time she was on the bench in this case to deal with some of these issues about the discovery that was being turned over. today we're facing a court date, a deadline for the judge to say -- or rather for donald trump's team to say when they think the trial should be set, and judge chutkan has another hearing set for the 28th. this is something that we can expect to go ahead.
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down in georgia, because of georgia law, these names, ended up posting the addresses of these grand jurors as well. you've seen a lot of really vile language around that and a lot of threats against those grand jurors. >> many people may not know this. you know the dangers of had this firsthand. your father-in-law was an 11th circuit court judge when a dissatisfied litigant sent a mail bomb. as you see what's unfolded here, what goes through your mind? >> well, courts and court families take these sorts of threats very seriously, and although some people might look at this as just a phone message or an email, someone blowing off steam, people on a website, for the folks that work in the legal system, the threat is still very real, particularly for the people in atlanta who remember the events where my father-in-law was killed and that involved a series of bombs
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being sent including one to the 11th circuit courthouse that fortunately didn't go off. these are very real risks. but people in the legal system and the judicial system, we knowingly take on these risks when we sign up for these jobs. for jurors, for witnesses, for these folks to be exposed to the threat of violence just for doing their civic duty as citizens is wholly unacceptable. they are the essence of domestic terrorism and i think it's worthwhile for us just to take a minute and to remember to condemn this conduct. it is not all right to call judge chutkan racist slurs. it is never okay to threaten violence against people because you don't like the job that they're doing. where this criticism is absent is frankly from republican leadership who should be condemning this conduct, calling it unacceptable, and filling the void left by donald trump
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seeming condoing of it. >> let's talk about that congresswoman, there is no known connection, we should point that out, between this woman and donald trump. what has been pointed out, however, is that her call, that threatening call came just a day after donald trump posted a message saying if you go after me, i'm coming after you. so is it fair or unfair to draw a line between these incidents? >> well, i think it is fair because for years trump has put out that sort of permission that, you know, to go after, and kudos to asa hutchinson who did put out a statement pointing out that when he was a prosecutor, he went after the kkk, and he was targeted by them, by kkk, so he understands this and he and chris christie have criticized the targeting of law enforcement
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and the criticism of law enforcement by donald trump and other candidates who haven't defended law enforcement. and we should have republican leadership at all levels criticizing those who are attacking them because this is vile, and to have this type of assault on law enforcement across the board is frightening, and you know, you used to have, you know, back in the day ronald reagan went out and made clear he doesn't want anyone in his name ever to make attacks like this, and it used to be this would be criticized across the board as it should be. >> and what about the chilling effect congresswoman, i mean, you have members of a grand jury who set aside their lives, who served the system, and now they're scared. >> well, and that's why republican leaders should say none of this should be acceptable, and every republican leader, i would hope next week at the debate that everybody at
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the debate should call out and say this is unacceptable, and they should call on donald trump to say he doesn't want anybody in his name to ever take any action like this, and he should be zipping his lips on all of this, but unfortunately, you know, the misogyny and the racism from donald trump particularly if there's a prosecutor who's a woman or minority, he always doubles down on these type of things. >> so joyce, i want to remind folks what judge chutkan had to say to donald trump last friday at a hearing through his lawyer, john lauro. >> even arguably ambiguous statements by the parties or their counsel if they could be reasonably interpreted to intimidate witnesses or to prejudice potential jurors can threat the judicial process. i will take whatever measures are necessary to safeguard the integrity of these proceedings. the kinds of threats that we're seeing, the publication of names of grand jurors on a far right
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website, does that fit into safeguarding the integrity of the proceedings? and if so, what can she do about it? >> so i think that's exactly the question. she has a lot of tools in her tool kit. the question is which she prepared to use? would she, for instance, lock the former president up pending trial, in essence, revoking his bond because he's violated his conditions of release. you know, if this were any other defendant and if they were making the threat like if come for me, i'll come for you if that was conveyed in person or donald trump told a witness in person don't go and testify in front of the grand jury, prosecutors who got wind of that would treat it like the obstructive conduct it is, and they would consider revoking a bond or at least some preliminary steps that direction. but trump insulates himself by using social media. that's a very loud megaphone that he has strapped to his
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mouth when he makes these comments on social media, and yet, there's just enough removed there that it's always given him waffle room in the past to say he was joking or he didn't mean it the way it landed. judge chutkan now gets to make the call on whether these are, in fact, serious incidents. it will also be up to prosecutors to characterize them that way, but clearly, we're at the point in time where serious action needs to be taken because real people will begin to pay for donald trump's misconduct. whether that means she's serious about having a speedier trial, still within constitutional constraints, but pushing the schedule because he makes those comments or doing something else like considering a gag order, which of course comes at the risk of a lot of first amendment litigation, we'll learn more in this hearing at the end of the month. >> so ryan, do we know anything about these folks who are putting out the personal information, the addresses of these grand jurors? >> you know, we've seen a lot of targeting of these grand jurors
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just generally on social media. we've seen some of the images that have been posted on social media platforms, specifically this website where the addresses were posted is one that has been associated frankly with other acts of violence in the past and just uses a lot of really vile rhetoric in sort of the bowls of the -- bowels of the internet, one of the worst places you can go. that's what makes this so frightening, you have a lot of disturbed individuals who are congregating on those areas, and you know, there's just a lot of parallels between what happened on january 6th and what's now happening here whereas, you know, there's this idea that a lot of the republican base has tha the election was stolen right, in that instance, they can justify very easily what happened on january 6th. and people who were attacking officers who were protecting the building. and just in this case, if you believe honestly that this is all a witch hunt, that this is all fake, that this is all dishonest, these prosecutions against donald trump, you can justify, sadly a lot of really abhorrent behavior that we see
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happening on social media and really ratcheting up these attacks. >> ryan reilly, joyce vance, thank you. former congresswoman barbara comstock, you're going to stay with me. appreciate all of you today for that important conversation. when we're back in 60 seconds, the search for the missing grows more urgent in hawaii with new fears about children who may have been trapped in an unrelenting blaze. >> never seen, this is apocalyptic. it's terrible. it's terrible. astepro allergy, steroid free allergy relief that starts working in 30 minutes, while other allergy sprays take hours. with astepro's unbeatably fast allergy relief you can astepro and go! age is just a number, and mine's unlisted.
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familiar sight to anyone who lived through the days afternoon 9/11 in new york with folks posting pictures of the missing. in hawaii even as schools reopen and traffic begins to move, the news is very grim. 111 people confirmed dead. just nine bodies have been identified. a fear now is that many of those victims still not found could be children. because the power was out schools were canceled last tuesday, as one kindergarten teacher told "the wall street journal," parents work one, two, three jobs just to get by, and they can't afford to take a day off, which means many of those kids were home alone when the fire started. a new lawsuit accuses hawaii's largest power company of gross negligence saying they delayed projects that would have prevented this very tragedy. nbc's steve patterson is on the ground in maui. steve, there is an ap analysis that found hawaii is one of the riskiest states in the country
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and getting more dangerous. this month alone, the federal government declared six different fire disasters in the state. that's the same number recorded from '53 to 2003. so what do we know about the response to this disaster and if the level of loss might have been mitigated? >> reporter: well not only the long-term of those disasters that have been recorded, which is a staggering amount over the amount of time. the forecast on the day, the national weather service was predicting 45 miles an hour sustained winds with 69 miles an hour wind gusts. that is fire weather if i've ever heard it. you have to look at the before and the during as part of this investigation. the during sort of what the -- we know the state attorney general will look at, the before pertains to these lawsuits, the lawsuits allege essentially gross negligence that not only should the power have been cut to energize power lines to really the entire sector that
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was affected because of the forecast that was coming in, but that there had been, you know, allegations of mismanagement for years. there were sustainability projects that were never followed through on, that grid was never stabilized. there should have been fail-saves in case of a major wind event. that wasn't followed through either. this is all part of these multiple lawsuits that are being looked at, and then you go to the during and now you're looking at an investigation that will be handled by the attorney general, but there's more pressure from the legislature here to have a third-party independent investigation as well. they will look at the conduct of the emergency managers in this case, could more have been done in general? should those sirens have gone off? we know the state has admitted they didn't, and they shouldn't. so all of that will be taken into this, but meanwhile, families are hurting and in many cases, they still have multiple members of their families that are missing as this search continues. chris. >> steve patterson, thank you
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for that. and there's tragedy in india to tell you about where days of torrential rain have killed at least 72 people. the videos of the monsoon in the mountains are jaw dropping. the rain triggering landslides literally sweeping homes down the hillside and prompting at least 2,000 rescues. emergency teams are bringing life vests and boats to those stranded. you can see families, young children making their way to safety. roads remain impassable and schools are shut down in that region's capital city. up next at this point, is it possible to rule out criminal indictments as donald trump's political kryptonite. what new polling reveals and why independent voters could hold the answer. plus, after claiming our elections are full of fraud without any proof, new voter fraud hunting tools from a conservative election activist that our experts are sounding the alarm about ahead of 2024. you're watching "chris jansing
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so we got two new polls today in the presidential race. let's start with quinnipiac, which shows that ron desantis is continuing his slide away from once promising challenger and the numbers leave little questions about where voters are looking instead, donald trump holds a massive 40 point lead over the primary field. that poll was taken after jack
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smith's federal indictment, although before the charges came down in georgia. and a majority now, 54% of americans agree trump should be prosecuted for efforts to overturn the 2020 election. meantime, ap polling shows that weeks of president biden traveling to tout economic progress, well, isn't exactly working. voters aren't yet convinced. eugene daniels is white house correspondent and playbook co-author for "politico," he's also an msnbc political contributor, and former republican congresswoman barbara comstock is back with us. so eugene, so far the indictments are not trump's kryptonite, but polls are supporting some republicans fear he can't win the white house. so what are you going to be watching after this fourth indictment, polls are sure to come out. what are you looking for? do you think a shift might start? >> it's hard to see a shift happening in the primary numbers, but what i'm interested in is that these general
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election numbers continue. like you start to see more independents, more republicans being less interested in donald trump in general election matchups between joe biden, what does that do for the republicans in the field? does that make them -- does that embolden them in their campaigns to say, you know what? there may be an opportunity here. that's where the opportunity is. you can convince republican primary voters that he is not going to win and hope that some of these other folks will drop off and their support will come to you, that's kind of the best chance a lot of these folks have at this point because we are not seeing republicans run away from donald trump and the ways these strategists in these campaigns were hoping for, and more importantly, you're not seeing the candidates hit him on this, right? you're not seeing desantis or any of those folks go at him as they probably should in order to take his top spot. you're also not seeing the biden administration do it. he's able to say whatever he wants as he moves forward
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through this primary season and continue to hope that the things that he's done over the last years, which is convince voters that if they're coming after you, i'm the only thing stopping them being the deep state, the so-called deep state, that is what is his super manpower at this point. >> congresswoman, i'm going to go back to the polls, but what eugene just said sparked in me this story that just broke this morning. there are hundreds of pages of internal memos, advice inside ron desantis's campaign that were written by the pro-desantis superpac, never back down. some of the advice, and you know some of the stuff gets out there because they're not supposed to coordinate directly with the campaign. if something just happens to get out on the internet, well, maybe the candidate will see it. so here's what they say. defend trump when christie attacks him, take a sledge hammer to vivek ramaswamy and call him vivek the fake, or fake
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vivek, i don't think they decided which one. slam joe biden at least five times. congresswoman, what do you make of those tips? what does he do? what at this point given dropping poll numbers can ron desantis do? >> assuming this is -- you know, it's a super pac, and it's been written by jeff roe, never has someone been paid so much for such terrible advice. you can see why ron desantis is sinking like a stone. if you're going to take on the front runner, take on the front runner. taking on vivek ramaswamy is not going to get you into first place. this is an absurd, ridiculous memo, and shows you why, you know, ron desantis, i think, after the next debate will be in third, fourth, or fifth place. >> really? >> you know, you just had brian kemp, a fellow governor tell him
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after the georgia, you know, tell everyone after the georgia indictment that there was not a fake election. you know, brian kemp, a governor took on, you know, donald trump directly, something that all the candidates should do and say this was not a fake election. brian kemp and brad raffensperger and lieutenant governor duncan are going to be testifying in this trial saying this was not a fake election. the rest of the republicans should be standing up and doing the same thing. these republicans as i was just mentioning earlier should be saying, hey, why don't you stop having these, you know, attacks on judges, these racist attacks on judges. why don't we all stand up and do what ronald reagan used to do? that's what a memo should be telling, you know, candidates. actually, the candidates should know that themselves. i think that's the kind of thing you're going to see from chris christie, something he doesn't need to be told by his super pac. chris christie is going to know
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that in his gut. he'll be able to say that themselves. i think that's what republicans and general election voters are going to want to see. someone who doesn't need to be told by a super pac what to say and i think chris christie will make mincemeat of desantis and others who need to have talking points from a super pac telling them here's some nicknames you should use. i mean, that memo is just going to be the end of ron desantis, who is already, you know, the guy who was fighting with mickey mouse but is afraid to stand up to donald trump and of course afraid to stand up to putin. i mean, put a fork in ron desantis. if he wasn't already done, this memo is going to do him in. >> a no holds barred analysis. let's see what you can do on the democratic side, eugene, i don't know how you match that. but president biden, you know this, he's been trying to keep the focus on his economic gains. he visited arizona, new mexico just in this past weak to talk up his successes, but this new
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ap poll found 36% of adults approve of his handling of the economy, 55% of democrats still wish he wouldn't run again. is there any indication you're hearing of nervousness around the white house or within the campaign that so far at least their strategy isn't working. >> democrats are always nervous. they're also always kind of nervous and hand wringing about everything all the time, but this is also now a campaign that once they made a decision, they feel like they have proven the naysayers wrong over and over again. you look at 2020, when everyone was doubting what they were doing in the general election and keeping joe biden inside while things were being terrifying for folks outside during covid, look, throughout the first year and a half when we over and over thought the bills were dead and they were able to revive them over is and
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over and over again, and also the evidence is 2022 when they should have gotten clobbered based on history. that didn't happen. what that's given them is this confidence backed by some of this evidence that they don't have to listen to the naysayers. the folks that are nervous should just get on board and trust them as they move forward, but these numbers are actually concerning because the elections often come down to economy. >> eugene daniels and former congresswoman barbara comstock, what a great conversation. now to new nbc news reporting, it unkofrgs the latest alarming and audacious efforts by republican activists to potentially disenfranchise voters. self-described election integrity activists led in part by an influential donald trump ally are preparing to launch a new computer program that helps them file voter challenges. the database is called the eagle network, say that for me again, jane eagle eye network, it is
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raising concerns that will lead to disenfranchising thousands of legitimate voters and here is jane timm who publish add report on this effort today. explain how this database works. >> eagle eye is loaded with voter rolls and lots of other public data. the activists plan to churn through that and the program flags suspect registrations and then the activists plan to personally evaluate the voter registrations themselves. that means things like looking up an address on google maps to see if it looks like a house. very sort of unusual strategies here looking for obituaies online. they prepare lists and give them to election officials if they think they found ineligible voters. none of these activists or even the program's creator appear to have any experience in election administration, and those that do say that these are going to have a million false positives where you're going to see a john smith and a john smith who look a lot like the same person but
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aren't, and their registration may well be flagged including for a voter challenge. is voter challenges can be intimidating. you get a piece of mail that says your eligibility to vote has been challenged. in georgia you're invited appear at a hearing to defend your voting rights. activist actions could have big effects on real voters. >> nbcnews.com is where people can find this reporting. it is fascinating stuff. next, the tlak tight rope over a high stakes prisoner exchange with iran. what the families of two american prisoners are telling msnbc about getting their loved ones back. i'm adding downy unstopables to my wash now. i'll be smelling fresh all day long. [sniffs] still fresh. still fresh! get 6 times longer-lasting freshness, plus odor protection with downy unstopables. have fun, sis! ( ♪♪ ) ( ♪♪ ) can't stop adding stuff to your cart?
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. a new report says the u.s. government has notified victims of families of 9/11 victims that the suspected architect of the attack and four other defendants may never face the death penalty. the "associated press" obtained a letter sent by the pentagon and fbi alerting families that the suspected terrorists could be spared under plea deals currently under consideration. for years now the case has been mired in legal disputes and delays due to the interrogation techniques used on the suspects after they were apprehended. the defense arguing that their confessions were tainted by torture including water boarding. some team members have been vocal about their opposition to any deal and the letter gives them until monday to provide any
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comments or questions about the possibility of a plea agreement. we're also following negotiations between the u.s. and iran over a possible prisoner exchange. right now five americans who have spent years in iranian prisoners are under house arrest. a first step to potentially coming home. now, if the deal goes through, they will be traded to several iranians to u.s. custody along with access to billions of dollars in frozen assets that would have to be used for humanitarian purposes, but of course it could all fall apart at any moment meaning that the long nightmare for those americans and their families is not over yet. nbc news chief foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell spoke with family members of two of the detained americans last hour on her show, "andrea mitchell reports." andrea, what did they tell you, and how are they handling this uncertainty? >> well, they are relieved, but it's a very tentative feeling because they've been able to
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talk to their loved ones, see them on video calls, but they're not home yet on u.s. soil, so i talked to two, you know, family members of two of the five -- two of them have not been identified, two of the prisoners, families did not want them identified, but three were, and out of those, tara tahbaz was here with us. she is the daughter of morad tahbaz and also neda shargi whose brother, emad shargi, they were imprisoned in 2018, chris, so you can imagine what it felt like. i asked them what was their first reaction to tara and then to neda seeing their father and brother for the first time in years. >> i think that you can never prepare for these moments. you know, this was a time that often felt very far out of reach, so you're flooded with every emotion and being able to see that first video call, i
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just was ecstatic and a sense of relief but also fear of what happens next. we don't know what happens next, and it was just nice to see my dad on the other side of the phone. >> i'm sure this he will give me a hard time for me saying this, he looked older, his hair has receded. he looked, you know, weak, and like we need to feed him a lot when he comes home, but he had a big smile on his face, and he asked about all of us. >> so chris, you can understand it still may be several weeks, we were told, by people familiar with the agreements that to do what has to be done, which is essentially to move $6 billion that have been held in south korea of nonsanctioned oil revenue that iran was legitimately able during sanctions, other sanctions to sell to south korea, the money was held. it's now being transferred to the central bank of qatar in currencies that are usable -- can be used in tehran and
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qatar -- the central bank will dole out this money for humanitarian purposes, food and medicines. but of course there's been a lot of critics on the hill saying this is ransom. the u.s. officials say it's not ransom. it's iran's money. no sanctions on iran are being lifted and nothing is going to happen until, you know, the money is transferred, and then they come home and then there will be a prisoner swap. so it may be a few more weeks before they actually get to see and hug their loved ones. >> what an extraordinary moment that will be, and i love the humanity of i just want to get him home and feed him some good persian food, right? andrea mitchell, thank you so much. what a great interview. also today we're learning new details about the origins of that controversial thousand foot string of buoys that texas put in the rio grande to deter migrants. nbc's julia ainsley has new reporting for us. walk us through how these buoys came to by. >> it's fascinating, chris. these buoys have gotten so much
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attention especially as the biden administration has sued texas over this use of a thousand foot border buoy around the rio grande. now we're learning more about how this idea came to be in the first place. it was actually an idea floated by the trump administration -- forgive the pun -- in early 2020 when they were looking at ways to try to barrier off parts of texas where they couldn't build walls because so much of that land was privately owned. i've talked to the former chief of border patrol, he said they thought they had their answer. they had their special operations teams try to swim through these buoys, they couldn't get across, they said, this was a deterrent. a lot of contracts came to a halt, and by the time the project was about to ramp up again, president biden was elected and it was deemed pretty much inoperable, a no go because they knew that biden was going to end any project like this as
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he also vowed to end construction of the border wall. and so as a result some of those people who worked for trump, including one key member, mike banks actually went over to become texas governor greg abbott's new border czar. he just start there had in january of this year, and he brought this idea and the exact make and model chosen by the trump administration. now, this isn't just a history lesson, chris. i'm told why this is so important is because abbott is actually building to the exact parameters so that if trump is reelected or another immigration hard-liner takes the presidency, they can expand on these projects. the border buoys, the wall, the concertina wire texas is hanging. everything texas is doing right now is on a state level designed to be expanded by a different federal government under a different administration that might agree with these policies, although it's clear now the biden administration does not, and they're still bath battling
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decade of life, 30 to 39 years of age. gastrointestinal cancers like colon cancers rising 15% between 2010 and 2019, we think the reason here is multifactorial. rising rates of obesity, microplastics in the -- mike cr in the water. lots of causing concerning findings, and we're seeing the age for colorectal cancer screenings decrease from 50 to 45, based on recommendations if the american cancer society. this having significant impacts. >> what can we do to try and change this? these numbers are terrifying, frankly. >> there's a parallel effort to see what can we do to decrease the rates of obesity across the country. there's efforts to highlight how the environment around us, air pollution is now the 6th leading
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as kids across the u.s. head back to the classroom, school districts are scramble to go install air-conditioning systems after this summer of record-breaking heat. progress is being made in some places, but in others, there are teachers so fed up over sweltering classrooms they're taking legal action. nbc news correspondent maggie vespa has our report. >> reporter: as kids coast to coast start heading back to class, a puzzling new equation. >> we are looking at unprecedented heat in august. >> another day of triple digits. >> temperatures anywhere from 95 degrees to 107 degrees. >> reporter: is leaving many schools stumped.
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how difficult is it to air-condition a building this old? >> it's a real challenge. >> reporter: the problem even plaguing places like st. paul, minnesota. famously frigid, now grappling with the extreme heat waves made more common amid our climate crisis. >> the conversation has changed locally and nationally. >> reporter: is it safe to say the district is working as fast as it can to air-condition these schools? >> absolutely. >> reporter: that race playing out nationwide. according to one study, 40% of american districts report needing to update their hvac systems. one roadblock experts note, the average school building is 50 years old. some far older. st. paul's randolph heights elementary was built in 1916 with thick masonry walls and no concept of hvac systems of the future. >> it's expensive to get systems that perform to modern expectations. >> reporter: similar struggles have districts across the country desperate. in salem, oregon, photos show
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classrooms without ac shrouded by heat reducing window film. in polk county, florida, parents' anger boiling over after the teachers union sounded alarms, filing a class action grievance over systemic ac issues. that grievance, union reps say, now covering ac-related complaints at close to 60 schools in the district. >> it should have been handled over the months when kids weren't in there. >> reporter: school administrators telling tampa bay nbc affiliate, wfla crews worked through the weekend to address the complaints, prioritizing ac repairs as they come in and installing portable systems in affected schools. back in minnesota. >> oh, it feels much cooler in here. >> yep. >> buildings suited to modern units like johnson high school are getting them. >> these have been running less than a month, like two weeks. >> reporter: administrators allocating massive chunks of funding, including $28.4 million in federal arp covid grants for
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the upgrades. the districts installed state of the art computer automated programs in 13 st. paul public schools and counting. >> we're trying to make sure these buildings are relevant and supporting kids where education is going. >> reporter: a lesson about living on a warming planet amid a man-made crisis that's testing american schools. maggie vespa, nbc news. we have a lot to cover in our second hour of "chris jansing reports." let's get right to it. at this hour, inside a town transformed by fire and ash. hawaiian officials reopening the road to lahaina, but for many, only heartbreak awaits, with dangerous chemicals lingering in the air and water, and the death toll still climbing. a frightening sight in the skies, flames seen shooting from the engine of a southwest airlines plane forcing the pilot to make an emergency landi
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