hear music really. it's the basis for everything i love about music, and anywhere that i go, any genre that i dip my toes into i always have that in the back of my mind somewhere. >> yeah, like you said, pure americana. the album "tell everybody" is out now and the reissue of dan's 2009 debut solo album keep it hid is out september 29th. dan auerbach, thank you so much. that does it for us this morning, ana cabrera picks up the coverage right now. right now on "ana cabrera reports," hurricane hilary now a category 4 taking aim at the california coast setting the stage for a rare west coast landfall. we'll have the latest storm track. plus, maui's emergency management chief out, the controversy over his decision to literally not sound the alarm during the wildfires in hawaii.

also ahead, delay, delay, delay, donald trump looking to push his federal election interference trial to 2026 like more than two years from now. can he stall his way out of legal jeopardy? and the clock is ticking down in georgia, the new security measures there with just a week left for the former president and allies to surrender. happy friday, it's great to be with you, it is 10:00 eastern, i'm ana cabrera reporting from new york, and this among hurricane hilary is a cat 4 and barrelling towards southern california. the national weather service warning hilary could bring significant impacts to the southwest this weekend and into early next week. now, this morning we've learned parts of joshua tree national park will shut down in anticipation of extreme flooding. park officials telling the public to, quote, reconsider outdoor activities.

if it makes landfall in california as a tropical system, that will be very rare. it's only happened one other time this past century. let's get right to nbc news meteorologist angie lassman. conditions were prime for hillary to intensify, and it did. walk us through the storm track and when the west coast could start feeling impacts. >> it rapidly intensified, and was going to continue to stay and maintain its strength until it starts to weaken. one of those things that helped it strengthen was the warm waters off the baja california coast. the impacts will be immense. you mentioned how rare it is. we've only seen a tropical system impact this area a handful of times. the last time and only time a tropical cyclone has made landfall in california was back in 1939. so yes, very rare. we right now have a record for the state's rainfall held by kathleen, if we see more than

14.76 inches from this system, we could potentially break that record. we do have the capability to see that. here's the lay of the land right now. category 4 hurricane looks really healthy to be honest and has winds at 145 miles per hour moving northwest at 13 miles per hour. here's the time line, as we get through the next day or so we're going to start to see it as i mentioned lose some steam, it starts to weaken but does start to work onshore and make landfall in parts of mexico and cross the border over into california as we get into late sunday. now tropical storm, either way i don't want you to focus on exactly that category. i want you to focus on the impacts. the impacts are going to come mainly in the form of rain. we've already got flood watches up for much of this area. 24 million people are included in these flood watches now las vegas, los angeles, you can see out towards the grand canyon. parts of arizona, new mexico, with upwards of 10 inches of rain expected in those mountain side areas. it's going to be a couple of

days where people need to pay attention to the flooding there. >> angie lassman thanks so much. now to several new developments in the legal investigations embroilingdonald trump. one week from today, that's how long the former president and his co-defendants have to surrender to the jail. the fulton county sheriff's office is investigating threats against the grand jurors in georgia after their names and addresses were leaked online, and there's news this morning in the federal election interference case as well. trump's legal team looking to push the start of that trial back to april of 2026. lots to talk about now with our nbc's julie tsirkin who is there in georgia for us. also here with us is renato mariotti, former federal prosecutor and charles coleman, civil rights attorney and msnbc legal analyst. julie, how is the state of georgia reacting as we wait for trump and his allies to

surrender? >> yeah, ana, first let me set the scene for you and our viewers here. we're standing in front of the fulton county jail where the former president is supposed to surrender any moment now, any day now. meanwhile, most of his presidential rivals are actually just a couple of miles from here speaking at a conservative republican conference where we just heard from the governor of georgia, republican brian kemp who criticized the former president just a few days ago saying there is no election interference in the 2020 election. take a listen to what kemp had to say just a few moments ago about this. >> you know, during the whole 2020 election there was a lot of things said, a lot of things tone, at the end of the day, i followed the law and the constitution. i was subpoenaed for the special grand jury, so you know, i'm sure i will be a witness in whatever goes forward, so i really can't say much about the indictment. one thing is certain about these indictments in my mind, in my opinion, this trial, despite what dates anybody's asking for

or anything else, it is not going to happen before the election. >> reporter: now, ana, here's what's so notable about the fourth indictment and different from the other three and something that might get under the former president's skin a little more. there are republican officials who could be critical witnesses in this case against the former president, and he's already been on truth social lashing out against the lieutenant governor jeff duncan for saying some of those things we heard from kemp. we also expect to see presidential rivals on this stage including nikki haley, tim scott and the former vice president mike pence too. >> okay, and tell us more about this investigation now into the threats against frand jurors and is anything being done to protect them? >> reporter: yeah, it's such an important question. as nbc news first reported my colleague blayne alexander and ryan reilly, the names and addresses, personal information, pictures of these 23 members of the grand jury in georgia we are posted to fringe right wing websites.

they have issued death threats against these members and we're just hearing from the fbi this morning who were saying they are aware of these threats of violence. they also said that individuals found responsible for making threats in violation of state and/or federal laws will be prosecuted. this is unique to georgia and none of the other three indictments against the former president we've seen the names of these grand jurors unveiled as part of the indictment when it was unsealed and made public. in georgia that is allowed. there are certainly questions swirling as to why in a case of this magnitude having to do with the former president they would still allow that to go forward. certainly they are taking these threats seriously. in washington yesterday there was a woman from texas arrested for making threats against tanya chutkan, the judge overseeing the federal case investigation into the former president's election interference in 2020 so definitely something officials on the ground are taking seriously. >> very eye opening when this happens.

julie tsirkin, thank you for that reporting. renato, i just wonder if this could impact trying to seat a jury for trial. what if, you know, jurors are scared to participate? >> it is an issue, ana, ask i will say this is something that's very serious. i unfortunately have had to teal with that when i was a federal prosecutor, not only with juries but myself, i was in protective custody for a period of time. it is a scary situation and jurors have a right to be concerned. that's why the legal system is going to take this seriously. i would not be surprised if we ultimately see some arrests here partly because they need to send a message. if there is a case, i expect it to be brought, and it will be a way of put ago shot across the bow of other would be threatening individuals who are going to try to intimidate jurors in any of these cases. >> charles, as we look ahead to the legal process here, former doj official jeffrey clark, he's one of the lawyers advocating for mike pence to stop the

electoral certification who trump reportedly wanted to make a.g., he became the first co-defendant to object to the georgia trial schedule. remember the prosecution here wanted that to start in march of next year. he certainly isn't going to be the last i imagine to make a motion for this trial and respond to it and suggest a later day. does this give us a preview of maybe how complicated it will be to get this to trial? >> i do think it does. i think at some point, fani willis and her office is going to have to present a plan about how she intends to try all 19 defendants. i know she has great experience with rico cases. at her press conference following the announcement of her indictment, you may recall whether she intended to try all 19 co-defendants together, and her answering was a resounding yes. i don't know that that will be practical or even feasible. so going forward, she's likely going to have to present some

sort of plan to the judge in this case around scheduling because these issues are going to come up and continue to come up because you're talking about 19 different co-defendants and their lawyers and team of lawyers and those schedules, none of which is more complicated than the former president's. this is going to be a scheduling nightmare just in fulton county alone and likely will result in a number of things being pushed forward because of how complex this is. >> renato, here's a shocker, trump wants to delay his trials this time he's seeking to delay his federal election interference case brought by jack smith, and he's asking for, drum roll, an april 2026 start date. more than two years after the special counsel's proposed start date. what's your reaction to that? >> well, i'm not surprised. like you, i think that's about the least surprising thing donald trump has done recently.

so what's the outcome going to be? if this is a case against john doe or ana cabrera or somebody else, a judge might give them a lot of rope. they might say, okay, you've got to get your legal team together. we understand you might have various arguments to make. you might give that person a little bit of rope there. i don't think this judge in this case is going to do that. this is not her first experience with this matter, and it is not this court, the district of columbia federal court's -- of donald trump. they're aware of what's going on. they're aware of the plan here. she sure seems motivated to have a fast trial and she basically threatened that if trump -- having questionable messages that are intended to influence potential jurors, she's going to speed it up. if i was on the trump defense team, i would be concerned that

i would need to gear up for a very fast trial in that case. >> this is the judge we have learned was threatened, the woman in texas arrested because of the death threat against judge chutkan, and of course trump's team argument is they just got this huge case, right? they have millions, literally more than 10 million, i think, documents that have been turned over or are going to be part of the prosecution's discovery that they hand over that they have to go through. charles, let's just look at the calendar here with how packed trump's courtroom and campaign events schedule is right now. with this in mind, which case hoff these four criminal cases right now is realistically going to move the fastest, do you think? >> you know, ana, i think people forget about alvin bragg here in new york, and i do think that i understand why these other cases have taken precedence. his case could theoretically move the fastest. i think it's the most contained and the easiest and most straightforward paperwork wise. it won't.

it's going to take a backseat to the other matters. alvin bragg's case is a local case, and of course jack smith and special prosecutor those are federal cases. of those remaining three, i would suspect that the election interference case that jack smith is bringing is the one that's posed to likely move the fastest. with respect to mar-a-lago, you're dealing with a plethora of voluminous discovery. a lot of that being classified documents, things that the government is going to have to decide how much they're going to want to show. they're going to have to turn it over. there's an entire process of going over these thing in terms of donald trump's team getting its security clearance in order so they can even look at these documents. that's going to take a lot of time. with fani willis you're talking about it 19 different defendants and then also another -- voluminous discovery that has to be sorted out and gone through by each of the defendants. it's going to be a lot of motions in that case, and so

that's going to take some time. of those remaining three the one that is posed to move forward likely in the fastest manner is going to be the federal election interference case that we've seen filed basically his second federal indictment. >> we will be watching and we expect a hearing in that case on august 28th where we could have some kind of trial schedule set out. thank you so much, charles coleman and renato mariotti happy friday and good to have you here. when we're back in 60 seconds, evacuations over wildfires in canada. while the top emergency official in maui is out. the controversy over his choice to not sound the alarms before hawaii's deadly wildfires. plus, more brazen smash and grabs in california, the new task force aimed at putting the lootings in lockdown. and later, on the brink, an urgent warning from jeff corwin about one of our ocean's most beautiful creatures. 's most beautiful creatures. ers, that bind you to a 3-year device contract.

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we're back with breaking news out of canada. wildfires there are prompting evacuations in the capital of the northwest territories. take a look at just how high the flames are. this is near the city of yellow knife and the absolutely massive evacuation lines you can see here as people are trying to flee. and then close to the u.s. border, more flames are nearly engulfing this town of killona. that city has declared a state of emergency. in hawaii now, the chief of the maui emergency management agency has resigned effective immediately after growing scrutiny of his decision not to activate warning sirens as the fires ignited. here's how he initially defended that decision. >> do you regret not sounding the sirens? >> i do not. the public is trained to seek higher ground in the event that

the siren is sounded. they would have gone into the fire. >> all this as the outrage grows over the response to the fires and the harrowing search for the missing continues. nbc's dana griffin joins me from maui with more now. this top official out. what more do we know about his resignation and the investigation into the response? >> reporter: yeah, good morning to you, ana. i can say with him defending not sounding that alarm because he was worried that people would go into the flames. others here in maui argue that would have at least alerted people, elderly people who don't have cell phones or did not have their tvs on or radios on, they at least would have stepped outside and common sense would have told them a fire is brewing, let believe. this also comes on the heels of another official who is also being not investigated but people are also raising some questions about him, and this will likely be a part of the review that the attorney general has commissioned by this independent party because they really want to get a critical

comprehensive review of decision-making that day, of policies, and what actions were taken not only before, during , and after that fire. the attorney general saying an independent review saying all aspects including any potential shortcomings in preparation, response, and communication are thoroughly examined. i also want to point to this article by the star advertiser. it writes, the resignation came on the day after the state department of land ask natural resources reasooind kaleo manuel first deputy of the commission on water resources management so that the commission and the department can focus on necessary work to assist the people of maui recover from the devastation of the wildfires. this stems from questions that are swirling about whether enough water was released on maui to make sure firefighters could fight those fires. we heard from several

firefighters who lost their homes battling these flames. they say when they checked those fire hydrants, the water pressure was either low or gone, ana. >> and i'm looking at these images of just the level of destruction there, and you've been talking to people who are staying in shelters. we're now more than a week since the fire hit, this death toll around 111 people at last check. where do the search efforts stand? >> yeah, they're still searching the rubble. that could take several weeks, and some of the remains are so hard to find because these bodies are so badly burned. they still may be searching that rubble and finding remains months to come, ana. we're hearing from people who are feeling a little bit of relief considering that the governor has taken action to open the lahaina bypass, which is by mee. it's closed now. the importance of having this open is so that people who were stuck there could leave, come back and forth and also so those

precious resources could make it to the people who are still in there and need a lot of help. ana. >> a lot, a lot of recovery ahead, thank you very much, dana griffin for your efforts in reporting there in hawaii. and up next here on "ana cabrera reports," high stakes summit. we'll look ahead to president biden's historic meeting at camp david next hour with the leaders of south korea and japa. and coming up, millions of goods stolen, the new task force to stop these robberies. e new te to stop these robberies. help you find and unlock opportunities in the market. e*trade from morgan stanley. with powerful, easy-to-use tools, power e*trade makes complex trading easier. react to fast-moving markets with dynamic charting and a futures ladder that lets you place, flatten, or reverse orders so you won't miss an opportunity.

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this has a lot to do with north korea and china. this marks the first time these three leaders have had a stand-alone meeting. it marks a shift in regional dynamics given the historically frayed relationship between japan and south korea and the location of this summit, camp david also significant here, the last time foreign leaders met here was back in 2015. let's bring in nbc news foreign correspondent janis mackey frayer are from beijing and former national security council director of korea, japan, and oceanic affairs, sumi terry. set the stage, how are these three nations planning to bolster their alliance at today's summit? >> reporter: ana, as you mentioned, it's not insignificant that president biden is using camp david to host the leaders of south korea and japan. this is the first trilateral meeting of its kind. there is an uneasy history between these two countries, but

they also have these very big looming security challenges with north korea and china, and this is where president biden is looking for unity with south korea and japan. the administration says that the summit is going to be about deeper defense and technology and economic cooperation. they're going to talk about things like sharing north korea missile data, also about holding regular joint military drills, and establishing a crisis hot line for the three leaders. security is the overarching theme here, not collective security per se, like nato's article 5, but this we're all in it together approach where a challenge to one country will be perceived as a challenge to all of them. security very much interlinked, and not just rhetorically, but with actual military operations. and the threats are real.

there's china's behavior in the taiwan strait, north korea has just tested a solid fuel icbm, something they haven't done before, and there are signs of growing military cooperation between russia and north korea, so these are the issues facing these three leaders and what is being very closely watched here in china, being called state media and a mini nato style alliance, which of course is going to invite more reaction as news comes out of camp david. ana. >> all right, janis mackey frayer, thank you so much. you say this summit is a major biden achievement. explain why you see it that way? >> well, you know, i worked on these issues for many years. i was also, you know, serving at the national security council under president bush and obama. getting the koreans and japanese together even in the same room is so difficult. it's beyond an uneasy

relationship. skra pan colonized korea for 35 years, for many, many years they've been dealing with a number of issues, contentious issues from territorial dispute issues, to a whole host of them. even getting these two leaders together is a major achievement. but this having at camp david, trilateral, the first stand-alone trilateral summit, this only came about because of, first, courageous decision by president eun to put aside -- to have a forward-looking relationship with japan and pragmatic approach by prime minister kishida. it has to do with the biden administration really, you know, giving encouragement and a lot of, you know, priority on bringing these leaders together. so it is an achievement by the biden administration as well. >> sue, chinese officials already criticized this summit saying it would fuel hostility instead of promoting peace. what message does this summit

hosted by the united states send to china, and what message is it sending to north korea? >> well, they love to just historically divide korea and japan, and they know because of this very historically contentious relationship between korea and japan, they love to divide between u.s. and two of u.s.'s key allies in asia. the message says that they are not divided, that korea, japan, two of the closest allies of the united states are all on the same page, and they stand together. they share common values and again, security threat to one country is linked to security threat to another country. so i think this is a very important and symbolic moment. it's a very important message to send to china and north korea. >> sue mi terry, as always, i so appreciate your experience and insights here. thanks for sharing it with us. up next here on "ana cabrera reports," it seems no store is

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welcome back. in los angeles, a new effort to stop a wave of major retail crimes. a task force now focused on catching the brazen thieves, their getaway drivers and resellers that have targeted luxury good stores in a string of smash-and-grab robberies. nbc's gadi schwartz has the details for us. hi, gadi. >> it is becoming way too common here in l.a. these smash-and-grab robberies where criminals smash into a store, usually selling high end goods. they overwhelm security, grab what they can and take off. in the last one, more than 50 robbers hit a store at the exact same time. this morning lawmakers trying to

take action amidst a surge of violent smash-and-grab robberies. >> our message is clear, those who commit these crimes will be caught. >> reporter: los angeles mayor karen bass announcing a new task force to fight retail crimes on the heels of several brazen burglaries in recent weeks. >> no ang lee know should feel like it's not safe to go shopping in los angeles. >> reporter: just days ago, thieves made off with more than $100,000 in handbags from a gucci store in costa mesa, and dozens of robbers swarmed this nordstrom in l.a. that haul could front range 60,000 to $100,000. and while some critics argue l.a. county's zero dollar bail policy for some low level nonviolent offenders could be empowering criminals. district attorney george gascon disagrees. >> we will use every tool available under the law when there is an arrest made to make sure that these individuals are held accountable. >> reporter: and it's not just

l.a., smash-and-grab crimes have been impacting communities nationwide. >> they're going in stores, just going out just stealing stuff and nobody's doing nothing about it. >> reporter: including in illinois, florida, and beyond in recent years with drug stores and pharmacies also major targets. last year in new york, 41 people were arrested in a multimillion dollar theft ring for swiping luxury and drugstore goods and reselling them on ebay. one poll by the national retail federation found more than half of consumers think crimes like looting and shoplifting have increased since the start of the pandemic as shoppers call on elected leaders to do more. >> it's a shame that citizens are, you know, just trying to do their regular shopping and are impacted by other people's poor decisions. >> reporter: and ana, as you can see from this video getting caught up in the middle of something like this can be terrifying. experts say it is super important to stay calm, to think about escape routes in advance. you want to keep as much

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post add memo online, attack joe biden and the media three to five times. state the governor's positive vision two to three times. hammer vivek ramaswamy in response, and defend donald trump in absentia. the former governor of new jersey is in desantis's home state this morning holding a town hall and taking swiping at a desantis's debate strategy earlier today on "morning joe." >> why is your strategy to defend donald trump? i mean, look, joe, the guy's going to be -- by the time we get on the stage wednesday, it's possible that trump could be out on bail. i mean, i don't think that's calling card for a strong front runner for president of the united states to be out on bail. we got desantis focusing on vivek and saying he wants to defend that? i don't want to defend that, joe. i want to be on that stage to say to the voters in the

republican party let's stop normalizing this conduct. >> joining us now, former communications director for vice president kamala harris, ashley attenyen and political commentator and former republican, ashley pratt oats. two ashleys with me today. awesome. first, your reaction to christie going to desantis's home turf, do you see christie gaining momentum or is this a direct swipe against desantis? >> christie's up in my home state of new hampshire in the polls and he just leapfrogged over desantis there. his polling is still under 10%, but it is something to watch, and the governor knows that. so the one thing i do want to point out about christie is he has nothing left to lose. the only thing he has here is everything to gain by swinging at trump, which is what none of the other gop contenders are doing at this point. he knows his base of support

isn't going to come from the maga right. he knows it's going to come from former republicans or independents, and ultimately he knows this. by going after trump in the debate, i think he's really going to put a lot of the other gop contenders on edge, and i think they're really nervous about that. in desantis's memo, right? it says in there defend trump, and at this point, none of the other candidates are really taking this seriously. i think they're all vying to be in his cabinet if trump wins. that's why they're playing by the trump playbook and defending him on the debate stage. that ultimately is going to cost them a lot more than it will chris christie by taking swings at trump. >> let's talk about this desantis super pac memo suggest ago debate strategy to defend trump against christie attacks and, quote, take a sledge hammer to vivek ramaswamy. listen to ramaswamy's response stwl are you preparing to be hammered? >> you know, i have been prepared for that for a lot of my life, and i'm prepared to

take that on. i think many times if you don't have a message, you look to attack other candidates. i'm preferring to stand for my own message asking the question what are we running to, and i think if we're guided by that purpose, the attacks from the other candidates are not going to stop me. >> your thoughts on this debate strategy? >> i mean, in my professional opinion and my experience, these memos are typically smoke screens. they're not really an indication of the strategy. i would have to agree with ashley, you know, desantis is in a position where he's got the most to lose, but he also has the most to prove. he has to prove to his fund-raisers and donors that his reset is actually resetting. he's got to lay out a vision that will position him to win the primary and the general election, which is a tough thing to do, and then the third is he's got to really distinguish himself from the field. i think it's going to be interesting to see how the field handles desantis given that he's

running in the strong number two position. will they all pile up against him? will they make race and sort of his woke agenda a focus, especially given that we now know that republican primary voters are not interested in his woke strategies and they're not interested in talking about donald trump, so the pressure and the stakes are incredibly high for desantis. i wouldn't over investigation in this memo. i think, you know, he has to stay very focused on his other than game. he has the most to prove. >> is desantis a strong number two anymore? we keep seeing him plummet in the polls. i think in new hampshire there was a recent poll showing he and chris christie were a dead even as a number two and their support was 8 or 9% there. we saw vivek ramaswamy in a new fox news poll this week show nationally he's gaining, desantis also starting to tank. why would these candidates be focusing on desantis if he's already on the decline? >> well, here's -- well, i don't think -- it depends on the

metrics you're measuring against, right? his super pac's raised $130 million in the first quarter. that is incredibly substantial. that far outpaces anyone else in the republican primary. that gives him a strength. that gives him some level of staying power. the fact that all of the news coverage and the tension and the focus going into the debate is on desantis signals that he's a force to be reckoned with for the entire field. so where in the polls might slide 1 or 2%, remember, trump was at single-digits at this point, so was barack obama and bill clinton and george w. bush. you have to look at other methods. he's raising a substantial amount of money, and that makes him a player. >> that's a good reminder about the polls, thanks for bringing that up. ashley oates, trump's former attorney general bill barr had this opinion. >> i actually think he's not going to be the nominee whether

or not he's convicted. i think over time as people focus on the decision, they will see that he's sort of the one person who could lose to biden. i think it's somewhat early and a lot of these other candidates aren't as well-known as donald trump, and i think when push comes to shove it will be clear there are other candidates who can win decisively. >> your reaction to that? who has the means to step in as the nominee? >> i really wish -- >> ashley oates go ahead. >> i really wish that that were true because i would love to believe it and to see it, but because the field is so crowded, this all but hands the nomination to trump, even if he's convicted or not convicted, right? and at this point i really do think that christie is the only alternative here because he has the ability to bridge the divide between former republicans and independents, which is really, you know, where joe biden was able to pick up support in the previous election. so i don't really know that barr's comments are going to hold true over time. i think trump is still in the position to become the nominee

of the party, which is very disheartening. the republican party has become the party of trump. they've put his e go as the platform, and because of that they have fallen very, very hard and fall from where they used to stand by way of actually supporting platform values. so it is interesting to see the embrace of the gop of trump during all of this and to just really take his side regardless of whether or not he will be convicted. again, we don't know that. that's yet to play out, but four times indicted going into a debate and possibly being the nominee really is unprecedented territory. voters are still showing they're strongly in his camp. i don't really see this moving forward in that way. i can only hope. >> keep it real tight, please. >> yeah, no, no, i think the fundamental question before the republican primary voters and the candidates as well as the nation is where do we draw the

line? if we don't draw the line at four times indicted for the most egregious offenses against american democracy, where do we draw it? i worked for barack obama in the white house, he wore a tan suit, they almost investigated the guy. donald trump's polling numbers are down, his fund-raising is frat. his legal fees are up. he can be a "new york times" pl that shows that 50% of gop primary voters are persuadable. so i want to quote chris christie here, begs the question, what are they afraid of? what are they afraid of? he can be beat. >> thank you, both. i really appreciate the conversation. i enjoyed that. now to some discouraging new unfortunately for anybody looking to buy a home. mortgage rates have just hit their highest levels in more than 20 years. and so here we are, the average rate for a 30-year loan now more than 7%, up from 5% a year ago. let's bring in robin farzad. i missed you. nice to have you on this friday.

the mortgage rates, what does it mean for people's monthly payment? >> just housing afford ability i just clocked an all time low from the national association of realtors. i think i saw the stat this morning. home prices are still stubbornly high. they have taken a bit of a hit in certain markets, but then you have the cost of a loan skyrocketing well above 7% now. you put it all together with dwindling supply and very few people can afford homes. i believe at the onset of the pandemic, two-thirds of homes were affordable. now you have that closer to 40%. >> so we're also seeing mortgage applications really drop off, right? will people just stay out of the market, stay so high, are some people priced out at this point? >> so many people are priced out. the question is what breaks the fever, what breaks the price, what gets the people holding on to homes and holding on to sweet 3% and 4% mortgages to go in there and accept bids from younger families, especially. and that's a problem. you have to sink the entire

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they got the name right whale because they were, quote, the right whales to hunt by commercial whalers during the turn of the century. it is not whalers causing them to vanish anymore. here's part of the problem today. we have some recent footage of a crew working here to help free one of these north atlantic right whales entangled in fishing line and that's just one reason this species is on the verge of extinction. joining us now is jeff corwin, documentarian. your team provided that video we just saw. pretty incredible. i imagine it is rare to encounter one of these whales given how few are still out there. why is this particular species so vulnerable? what is happening? >> great question, ana. good morning to you. this species is on the brink of distinction as you highlighted, less than 344 survive. they're so vulnerable because of the way they feed and migrate.

every year they winter off of the warm waters of georgia and florida, where they calf. and they migrate to the gulf of maine and canadian waters to feed. when they feed on the tiniest creatures, they feed at the surface, they move very slowly. they blend in, despite their great size with the water, this eff no dorsal fin. so they are an easy obstacle. the two challenges they face is as they migrate up north, they get struck by ships, and then when they come up to the waters of new england, they get entangled in commercial fishing gear. finally, when they get to the gulf of maine, and canadian waters, because of climate change, their food source, that has crashed, it is unreliable. so they have to work twice as hard for less. >> and there seems to be a worry too that out of the remaining whales, there really aren't enough mothers giving birth to calves, right? there are fewer than 70 breeding

females acording to noaa. how significant is that? >> well, we're looking, ana, at basically the eclipse of the species. the sunset of the species. my wife described it to me like looking at a star, you look up, see a bright star, you think you're seeing something there, but it is something that was and we almost may be that way with this species. it is not just endangered. it is critically endangered. the species has collapsed. normally, a whale like this should live over a century. females, ana, only live now 45 years. they should breed every three years, we're lucky to get a new baby every ten years. only -- you know, that's why there is only 11 surviving calves. thankfully there is hope. we have people fighting to save them. the center for coastal studies, they're researching, they're disentangling whales and we have amazing groups like the international fund for animal welfare doing incredible

science, so we and this desperate effort can get the data, change policy, and focus on saving this species because, ana, when i see a right whale, i'm looking at like our ambassador for our coastline and what a shame to lose this species. >> so, if these whales disappear, what might that mean for the entirety of the underwater ecosystem? how foreboding is that for other species? we have a minute here left. >> well, ana, think of them as the sentinels of the sea, an aquatic canary in the coal mine. when we see an environment like our oceans not sustain its apex predators, big complex creatures like sharks and whales, it is a sign that there is more trouble looming. in the end, our species will pay the price for our negligence to conserve this remarkable whale. >> thank you for raising the red flag, so to speak, to this

story, to our attention. i so appreciate it. have a great weekend, jeff corwin, thank you for joining us. that's going to do it for this busy week. see you back here on monday. until then, i'm ana cabrera reporting from new york. have a wonderful weekend. jose diaz-balart picks up our coverage right now. good morning. any moment now at camp david, president biden will host a high stakes meeting with the leaders of south korea and japan amid rising security threats coming out of asia. meanwhile, parts of southern california are bracing for what could be a rare but serious storm as a category 4 hurricane barrels towards the southwest. in hawaii, maui's top emergency official resigned a day after coming under fire for the decisions he made as the deadly wildfires swept through the island. survivors continuing to make desperate pleas for help. >> we need the donations need to geo