whose homes are still standing, people who are driving on the highway. there's a concern about the water, water advisories have been expanded. people are asked not to drink it even if they boil it. >> a lot going on there. we'll be watching the president and first lady's visit and lahaina tomorrow. dana griffin, thank you. we have a lot more coming up, you're watching msnbc our second hour starts right now. g ♪ ♪ ♪ hi everyone, i'm yasmin vossoughian. if you're just joining us, welcome. if you're sticking with us, thank you for that. tropical storm hilary, made landfall in mexico. it's barreling towards california and the southwest. bringing high rents, heavy rain, that they fear could bring dangerous flash flooding, mudslides, at much, much more. plus, donald trump surrender -- he now just has days before he gets to turn himself in in georgia authorities. and chief of staff and

codefendant, mark meadows thinks he has, i get out of jail free card called presidential immunity. we'll look at that legal gambit and. what it could mean for the case overall. this as trump's gop rivals get ready to rumble without trump himself. >> once this debate happens this week, it's off to the races. that's when you'll start to see people really focusing in on different candidates, looking at what their options are. >> i feel like i've been preparing for this first republican presidential debate my whole life. >> everyone is innocent until proven guilty in this country. lots of accusations that are being tossed around. if we're focused on january, the first caucus of primary are, that's when the voters can decide. >> a firsthand look just hours away, the president from visiting maui. all speak to an official on the island to find out what they want to hear from the president during that visit. we'll begin once again with tropical storm hilary, rapidly approaching southern california

after making landfall in northern mexico. parts of riverside county, san bernardino county have been placed under evacuation orders. with flash flooding already reported in death valley. 1000 flights in and out of the united states have been canceled. parts of arizona, nevada at risk. clark county declaring a state of emergency. we're gonna get the latest on the storm's path in just a moment. meteorologist, guad venegas, standing by san diego. i spoke to the last hour, glaad, as the storm made landfall. just to our south of you i believe. what are you seeing this hour? >> it did make landfall in north mexico. we're all waiting to see what the storm will do once it goes over ensenada, the first large city in mexico that gets the storm. as you mentioned, it's two hours south of. us here in san diego have had light rain on and off all morning. authorities, county officials in san diego, l.a., a they're

counties of southern california have prepared as best as they can. telling residents to make sure they protect their homes if they're in areas that flood easily with the sad bags, they have food and water, and the power companies are telling customers to be prepared for the possibility of power outage. southern california has different geographies, there's people in riverside, san bernardino county that talk about that are under evacuation order, a lot of those communities in the mountain areas have those evacuation horry is -- here in san diego, it's for those that live in the lower areas were the flood alerts are for them to pay attention to the storm as it comes and. instead of being a waiting game for the next few hours as we get this rain. and that's what authorities want people to watch for. the possibility of flooding. until, that will be paying attention to what's happened south of us in the city of ensenada. and then the city of tijuana, look at the storm just before

it enters the united states. and it hits us here in san diego. >> guad venegas, stay safe my friend, michelle groomsmen we want to go to you. we're tracking the storm, we spoke in the last hour. we get updates at the top of every hour from the hurricane center. talk us through what we're hearing this hour when it comes to the path, the breath of the storm, and the expectations? >> hi there, yasmin, it remains the same. we're looking at likelihood, possibility of catastrophic rainfall, anywhere from 3 to 6 inches, up to ten inches in some spots. most of the coast, it might not sound like a lot, but the typography of california's unique. we have the mountains which causes ups -- we have valleys, the deserts have really packed soil. and little vegetation. the rain's gonna be runoff, it'll run into the streets, cause flash flooding. let's took a walk at the headlines of hilary, as guad

mentioned, it made landfall in the northern baja peninsula. it'll continue to california as a tropical storm. we'll see the winds gusty. but the winds are gonna be minor compared to the rainfall that we're expecting. this will be the first tropical storm to impact the state since 1997. , so nearly 30 years since a tropical storm impact at the state of california. we're looking at winds right now at 65 mile per hour. it's moving northwest at 25 miles per hour. that's good news. it's pretty quick. we'll see this move through fairly quick. we'll talk the next 12 hours but some heavy rain falls through california and into nevada, and into montana. it'll take a northward trajectory. right now it's about 215 miles southeast of san diego, california. this is what the track looks like, it'll move to the north over the next several hours. around 5:00, the circulation will move over san diego. we'll see rain picking up, we'll see spots where the rain is picking up. flash flood warnings, conductive bands will take hold and will drop heavy rainfall. if you think of a tropical

storm as a stunned -- and squeeze down. especially over the mountains. it'll slow down the mountains and cause flash flooding, mudslides, landslides, and debris flows. little move off to the northeast by monday at five a.m.. this is local time. now into the state of nevada, we're looking at las vegas with heavy rainfall. 26 million people impacted. yasmin, even in the last hour we've seen some changes. where you see the red dots, those red squares, we're seeing flash flooding. flash flooding is happening right now. things are starting to pick up, when we see the rain come. down >> major metropolitan area, as los angeles, san diego, it's happening eminent at any moment. what are you most worried about especially when you look at the outliers of storms like this one. we know things that we can project. what are you worried about the about the things that we cannot protect? >> it comes down to the typography, where the rain will hit, number, one near the mountains are wore it hit near the deserts. we can't pinpoint where it will

hit. we could see ten inches in some spots. if that falls in palm springs, that valley, the soil is so dry it's packed. we're looking at really not a lot of vegetation. we won't see that water soak the road quickly. it's gonna run off, that's number one. and then tornadoes, we need to grow careful of tornadoes, we have a threat for some landfall and tornadoes as well. >> michelle grossman, thank you for tracking the storm, we appreciate. it especially those folks that are in the path of this thing. we want to bring in -- emergency manager for the city of temecula, california, 60 miles north of san diego. thank you for joining us, appreciate it. the first time that riverside county has been under a tropical storm warning. what are you advising residents? >> thank you, good afternoon, thank you for having me. what were advising residents in our city essentially is to heed all the warnings from the public safety officials, as to what the national weather

service is telling you to do. and be prepared for the storm to make landfall and push into riverside county heavily this afternoon. >> i've lived in california, i love it dearly. i went to college out there as well, family out there. but they're not great with whether. california knows how to deal with earthquakes, they know how to deal with wildfires. this is not something that your communities, your leaders are used to. do you feel as if your city, your area is adequate at prepared for what is to come? >> yes. this is something that is definitely new to our area. we typically don't see rainfall levels of this amount in shot just short amount of time. we don't see heavy winds that this is bringing with us. we're very confident that we've taken the necessary steps to prepare ourselves in advance of the arrival. we've done everything we can to continue to inform the community, to prepare the community, offer sandbags and

saddened. and help everyone do exactly what they need to do to be ready to respond. >> if folks need to evacuate their homes, if worst comes to worse, do you have preparation in place for shelters for those individuals especially people that don't even have homes, or talking about of course homeless populations? >> we do. that's being coordinated county wise. -- we do have four shelter sites that we can establish at a moments notice where coordinating today with city staff to make sure those measures are still in place. we'll be monitoring the storm throughout the day. and based on what we see will make those active decisions to get those areas opened up for those that might be evacuated. >> as you're watching the storm progress, what would lead you to call for an evacuation order? >> the evacuation order is gonna come when it becomes the immediate threat to life.

if people can stay home, stay off the roads, that'll be the best thing for them. as we start to see this move through, we start seeing pockets of water, in streams and white rivers over topping, we'll start looking at conducting mass evacuations. >> it's an evacuation orders put into place. how do you plan on communicating with folks if electricity is lost? is there a text messaging system that you have ready to go? >> yes. our city is equipped with a mask notifications system that we can utilize and tap into the presidential's -- we can make sure that everyone in the area regardless if they signed up for the system or not will get communicated with so that they did not miss any actionable information. >> mikel alford, we wish you the best of luck in the next 24 hours. thinking of. you thank. yeah. donald trump to turn himself in by the end of the week.

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consensual line of defense. and for viewers maybe it's confusing. i'm standing out of fulton county, a iv of the indictments that trump is facing. this is in regards to the second indictment that he faced regarding the classified documents that were taken to mar-a-lago out of the white house. trump's argue that he had the power to declassify any of those documents. despite the fact you can just do that as a former president. you need to be an acting president. you can't just say i declassify. nevertheless, the fact that you're hearing from meadows that he never heard those conversations. and you hearing now this morning from former vice president, mike pence. who is saying the same, watch. >> in my case i was never made aware of any broad based effort to declassify documents. there is a process that the white house goes through to declassify material. i'm aware that occurring on several occasions over the course of our four years. but, i don't have any

broadbased directive from the president but it doesn't mean it didn't occur. it's just not something i ever heard about. >> this is yet another instance where mike pence is able to make it sound like he's not doing this. but he really is sort of jabbing at the former president right now. his old boss, old running mate, by saying he's aware of times were documents were declassified. but he's not aware of them in this case. it makes it harder for trump in court, it means you have someone like mark meadows cooperating there. we know he hasn't been very present in terms of what we've seen on the filings from the federal side of these cases. certainly, he's someone who down here in fulton county, he's one of the coconspirators along with the 18 other people, along with meadows in trump making 19 total. again, none of this is good news for the legal team focusing on the documents -- and the chief of staff saying, yeah, that's not what i

remember happening. i don't think we declassified those documents. >> on the meadows case first, how significant is it -- excuse, me on the classified documents case first, as dignifying is it that mark meadows essentially told the special counsel that he does not remember this ever happening. obviously, audio from former vice president mike pence as well. he -- how problematic is this for the former president considering that this is one of the main public defenses at least? >> it's is certainly damaging. this is somebody who was his chief of staff, right-hand man. certainly, he's somebody who would know if materials were classified or not. you presumably have him in the room for a lot of conversations regarding such materials. it is curious to think about why that information is coming out now as mark meadows is levying all of these defenses

to the charges in the georgia case. perhaps this information is coming out so that he can put himself out there as a valuable cooperator. not just -- but now that he has these state charges. >> i'm glad you brought that up. the dismissal of what he's trying to do, getting these charges dismissed in the georgia case. here's the argument he's making, but the point you make is also incredibly interesting. saying that as a federal official, the time of the charged conduct, he goes on to federal -- it's not obliged to consider state criminal law at all. not before acting. is this have -- is the argument have any merit? >> in order to show that there's some supremacy clause argument here where he's immune because of his actions as a federal official, he would have to show that he was acting in furtherance of some federal

policy, and that his actions could reasonably big characterized as complying with the federal law. i think both of those are a stretch. his actions, as outlined in that indictment, a really about getting advice to donald trump, the candidate. not donald trump the president. he's talking about how to take various actions, whether it's meetings, whether it's messages, whether it's memos, all of them are designed to one goal, overturning the results of the federal election. they're not about assisting him in executing his official duties as president. it is very hard to see how there can be a ruling here that overturning the results of a federal election is somehow furthering federal policy or in any way executing his federal official duties. it seems like a loser to me, but it's certainly an argument that is being taken seriously. there is already been a hearing ordered by the federal judge who is going to be hearing this

on august 28th. >> here's what i wonder, maybe problematic about having 19 defendants on the georgia case. when you see, obviously a move like this is made by mark meadows, giuliani, also lobbying to get this pushed to a federal court, along with mark meadows as well. we know that fani willis wants it in march of 2024. all of that in mind, if you're looking at timeline, you're looking at already details from two people, knowing if i do the math, right 16 others plus. also the former president. does this significantly push that timeline back? >> i think that six months for a rico case that is complex, involving 19 defendants, six months is incredibly ambitious. i don't see that timeline holding, because as you said, these defendants are all going to have various pretrial

motions they will make, they're going to want to review that discovery as it pertains to the charges against them. it is a lot for not only the lawyers to brief, for the state of georgia to respond, to but then also for the court to consider. i don't see this going forward in march. i do think that this case will take quite a lot more time than that. >> ali, i'm swinging back to you. if you could close us up with a course what we are going to be looking at on wednesday. we are looking towards that republican presidential debate. the former president of the united states, facing those criminal charges, not going to be on that debate stage. instead, they will be, what we understand, under viewed by former fox news host tucker carlson. >> it is a troll, certainly, both for fox news, which is hosting this first debate, as well as the republican party and their rivals. clearly, whether trump is on that stage or not, he is going to be looming over all of it. you have to imagine a world in which each of these rivals is

pressed on the idea of, would they have acted similarly after losing a presidential election? i know i tried tax getting senator tim scott if he would've made a phone call like the one that trump made to the secretary of state in georgia. senator scott did not answer that question. instead, preferring to turn away and take other questions on different topics. all of these candidates are going to have to contend with the trump of it, all even though he's not on that stage. look, if you're donald trump, you don't necessarily want to be on that stage. he had said, there's very little political upside to him doing that. this allows him to float above the fray, doing high in the polls, and then we do expect from law enforcement officials that they can come at least as early as thursday to come -- >> christie greenberg, thank you as well. still ahead, hillary is now a tropical storm threatening california and the southwest with major flooding after landfall in mexico. we'll talk to a fema representative about what they're trying to keep people safe. also, russian failure in space that is setting it back in a

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you're looking at this new video from our nbc affiliate, the flash flooding already being seen in the area from tropical storm hilary. several streets, intersections, they're being inundated with massive amounts of rainfall ahead of the storms arrival into the city. across all of southern california, parts of nevada areas, we could be seeing catastrophic and potentially life-threatening threatening flooding hitting dry areas. a state of emergency is in effect right california and

nevada, national guard has been activated. joining us to talk about this. -- fema's offense -- what's the plan from fema, looking at what california is facing right here in the next 24 hours? >> hello, yasmin, thank you for having me. right, now we had fema are in lockstep with the state. we have an incident management team on the ground helping with planning efforts. we have stockpiles, one in tracy california, where we have food, water, cots, blankets, all of these things that might be necessary given the potentially catastrophic incident. california is a very well resourced and mature operation in emergency management. what i'd like to say to the communities is please listen to local officials and state officials and help them do their jobs by listening to those critical pieces of information, also paying close attention to weather alerts so that you can stay home and out of harm's way during this

impactful incident. >> from what -- we're being told some places could be seeing up to ten inches. up to a year's worth of rainfall in a matter of hours. it's an area of communities that aren't night -- they can't necessarily soak up the rain like areas out east they were used to getting these hurricanes. what are you most worried about, what should people know when it comes to help if it's needed? >> the most important thing for residents to do right now is to deal with weather alerts, download weather apps, where you can get those customized alerts. we ask that you stay off the roads, and we'll have hear that from local and state management. if you drive into floodwater, it can be an extremely dangerous situation, any deaths, scenarios caused by just that. stay home, stay informed, check on the neighbors. those that might be more

vulnerable. make sure you have the provisions you need in those power outages. first and foremost, stay informed and stay alert. >> stay informed. okay, you talk about downloading the apps to make sure that you're watching this, whether staying on top of the information. if you're looking at electricity outages, and wondering as we life talked to officials earlier, is there that text messaging system that fema is helping to put out there and keep residents, communities informed if there are evacuation orders in place? if help is on the way? that kind of the? >> yes, absolutely, and truly, it is about being informed, staying informed, and making sure that you are checking on your child or i your most vulnerable state and local managers. providing information in myriad ways. if power goes out, make sure you charge your phones ahead of time. it's really important. make sure you have all of your devices charged so they can

sustain throughout the length of this incident, which will go throughout the night. that will be critically important. that's why you want to download not only state and local emergency management acts, but also any weather alerts you can receive. like we say, it's very important check on neighbors. communities are the most important advocates for each other, and for those that might be vulnerable and seek shelter, should power go out to a safe extended period of time. >> do you have designated shelter areas at this point already, and have supplies in place to provide for those shelters if in fact they are needed? >> yes. local emergency management are setting up shelters in some of the areas where impacts could be the greatest. not only is it coastal population centers like los angeles, san diego, but also inland areas, san bernardino valley, death valley, areas that have had a drought condition, and water won't absorb quickly. if folks overnight -- seek shelter when you, can look

for those local alerts. they've already been this evacuation orders issued for vulnerable communities, as well as voluntary evacuation warnings. >> associate administrator in offices a response recovery, thank you so much, we wish you the best of luck. >> bring in dave ward on the ground in las vegas, currently under a high wind warning and flood watch. >> it is really interesting, yasmin, to be here. it's important to articulate to people that might be from much rainier parts of the world where the ground is much more likely to soak up that water. it is very different here in las vegas. the place you're seeing behind me is a parking garage that had the bad fortune to be at the drainage point off of the mountains. there is already an inch of rain in the mountains that has caused what is essentially an enormous bowl, the las vegas valley, draining to this point. las vegas officials have put in extraordinary amounts of drainage. you can see a storm drain system that is pouring all of

this down underneath about a ten black distance, which means that it does not wind up on the las vegas strip the way that it did in 1999, 2012. it's a tremendous test improvement of what we've had in the past. the problem is that because this isn't a permeable place. it's one big bold it can really hold the water. as a result, this water flowing through here can really rise quickly with only an inch or two of rainfall. it's a region, yasmin, as you know, it only gets a few handfuls of inches a year. this is a desert environment. as a result, when only one or two inches hit, you can get into a place where the water rises right above where we're standing, and begins to float vehicles away. it is an enormous problem. all also point out here, this is a place where we're just seeing some weird new stuff. the fact that i'm standing with you in a place that should be 115 degrees, it should be hack on earth right now. you look at me and you say, oh

correspondent in a range, acted normal. it's not normal for las vegas. right now, it should be so hot that i couldn't wear this thing. and yet it's only 72 degrees. it's 40 degrees colder than it should be at this time of year. i think it's leading officials to talk about this as being very unprecedented, it's why this water, which is fine for the moment, is concern to officials here, and is why a declaration of emergency has been put in place, and why state officials and city officials are saying to stay home and ride this one out. yasmin? >> all right, jake word for us, thank, you jake. some have argued that the two election cases brought by the atlanta dea, fani willis, and jack, smith conflict with each other. my next guest argues that they actually work perfectly together to serve up justice for former president trump. dahlia lithwick joins us next with more. >> hi there, i'm iman mohyeldin, tonight on ayman, richard painter will join us. one of the former republican

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donald j trump are mirror images in many ways. trump is on trial in d.c. for trying to break democracy. and in fulton county, georgia, for trying to set aside black votes. the two stories are deeply connected but there are also two very distinct acts of violence against elections. smith reminds us what the country nearly lost and recalls what black voters have almost never won. joining me now is the author of the article, dahlia lithwick, to talk more about. this dahlia, thank you for joining. us we appreciate it. i want to read more of your peace and have you expand on it all. you're right, smith did as little as was necessary to secure a clean conviction while willis scooped up every taxed, threat, and goon from pennsylvania to arizona to coffee county, jordan -- they'll be a middle trial and a maximalist trial. a high-speed black and white missile and a slower full color imax version.

both renditions will pull in the same direction, each will ensure that the 2024 election season plays out between frumpy and jontz to and from the defendants table. what an image to think about as we look ahead to 2024. it puts it into color. speak more about how you think these two cases play perfectly well together? >> thank you for having me. i think in my mind i think of the one case, jack smith's case, as this very crisp, minimalist wine drying. he did as little as he had to do to bring donald trump into a federal court quickly. we don't have other defendants, we have very, very narrow frames. and we have fani willis who essentially says, i'm going to do this full color rendition of

the whole thing. it's important to note that jack smith's trial probably won't be televised, fani willis's will likely well. his will go quickly, hers will go slow. but working together they tell a more complete story. >> it's interesting to talk about the timing, when you're looking at one defendant and six coconspirators in jack smith's case versus 19 defendants. donald trump and his 18 codefendants, the likelihood of that case especially happening in a timely basis is incredibly low. we're seeing appeals to mark meadows through giuliani's lawyers, and wire article. speak more about how those differences may affect the timing of how this all plays out? >> you can sort of imagine any big mob trial, any one of those 19 codefendants can put a spoke in the wheel, the where mark

meadows is, can try to sever the trial, can stall it out. some of them are probably trying to cut deals for themselves. every one of those is going to make this go longer. what jack smith was thinking, was let's do a quick, someone else will pick up the rest of it, and there is no harm in having both because as i said there are two very different stories that they're trying to tell. >> one may be televised, one won't be. the federal case won't be televised. how will that differentiate the two? >> we're gonna probably have gavel-to-gavel coverage of the fani willis trial, and that means that americans are gonna get to watch. if you think about the federal trial under judge chutkan in d.c., we may hear tweets, we may get second hand information, but it's not gonna be dramatic. i think for some of the folks who think that americans are

bored of too much justice. i think what fani willis is going to do is, here it is, a law on order, go. it's gonna be a. show >> i need to say as we watch the court clerk walked the indictment in georgia up to the judge, we were glued to the television. i remember thinking, why is this so intriguing. it's actually quite boring when you think about it. if we were as intrigued by the walk through the elevator, up to the judge, just think about how we would be to see that court case play out on national television. dahlia let's quick, thank you, we appreciate. it coming up, the president hours away from heading to molly to survey the wildfire damage. but what will he be met with. residents, angry over the actions of officials in that state. up next, i'll speak to the chair of the maui county council about what the president needs to hear. t needs to hear. se safelite? we were loading our suv when... crack! safelite came right to us, and we could see exactly when they'd arrive

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heavy rainfall. where you see the red on the map, it's a flash flood. warning it means flooding is happening and it's eminent as well in some spots. a lot of these grounds are dry, dry soil, packed soil. we're not able to absorb the water that's following. we're seeing bright color showing up on the radar here. that's telling us we have heavy rainfall in the yellows, oranges, reds, that's where the heaviest rain is going. notice it's moving very, very slowly. it's going over the same areas. that's what we're anticipating. the good news is the systems moving quickly at 25 miles per hour. it's gonna be out of here by tomorrow morning. in the meantime, rainfall rates up to three inches per hour. and we could see ten inches of rain in some spots. notice the light pink together, death valley, palm springs, that's where we could see flash flooding. that's the highest risk, moderate risk is in the darker pink. we also have a risk in the blue collar including bakersfield, and grand canyon. rainfall forecast anywhere from three -- that doesn't sound a lot to the east coast folks.

but we're looking at the west -- the type of these different, the mountains are gonna hand hands the rainfall, the deserts are dry. we'll see that often. yasmin, we'll see the threat. catastrophic problems. and life-threatening issues with rainfall. we'll see mudslides, landslides, and -- >> michelle grossman, thank you, michelle. we appreciate you. the president and the first lady are headed to maui tomorrow. they're expected to be the survivors, first responders as they tore the damage to weeks after wildfires burn through it's of the island. at least hundred 14 people are dead making at the deadliest wildfire in modern u.s. history. the fema administrator says they're already making an impact, but -- in relief assistance. and getting people out of shelters to short-term rentals. >> you'll see what i saw when i went to maui last week. just really experience the complete and utter devastation that this town had experienced. but he's also gonna be able to talk with people and hear their

story and provide a sense of hope and assurance that the federal government is going to be with them. >> i want to bring in molly county council chair, alice lee, alice, thank you for joining us. my thoughts are with folks in lahaina and maui, they're dealing with the devastating aftermath of the wildfires. how are folks doing right now as so many remain missing? >> many of our people are still breathing. it's gonna take years. we need to be sensitive about that. but there's been some progress. thank goodness we had all the resources that you see from president biden and the governor. we had over 1000 federal personnel on the ground in lahaina. and right now our shelters are emptying. we have nine emergency shelters, and maybe nine people left. at the rest have been placed in

hotels, and they're being well taken care of. we're all looking forward to the presidents visit tomorrow. >> what do you want to make sure is communicated to the president tomorrow. and make sure what he sees? >> i think what's important to communicate to the president is that recovery needs to involve the boy's is of the people. the people of lahaina, they need to play a major role in rebuilding the lahaina community. because our community is not like any other community. it has very special cultural and historical significance, and it's generational. a lot of people that lost their

homes have been there for several generations. the cultures steep into the community. and everyone's concerned that their special needs need to be recognized by the president, by the governor, by the county emily. >> what about the outrage about the response initially to the wildfires. residents and utility trucks were blocking roads as they try to flee, we now know the emergency official has resigned after failing to activate the alarm system there are defending his actions as well. what's your response to that outrage? >> the outrage is justified. we need answers. and unfortunately, don't have all the answers. the governor as you know, the governor has without ordered an investigation to be conducted very sound and when that

happens all the facts will surface, will have a clear idea of exactly what happened with the siren system. and with the power outage itself. and other issues that have come up that are very important that we don't have all the answers. two in the meantime, we need to finish the work of recoveries, search and recovery. more almost there and we need to speed up that process because we're expecting some bad weather around monday or tuesday. if the rains come, that will complicate matters. this is random moisture from what used to be hurricane fernandez, we'll be passing by. >> go ahead. >> i want to state for the

record this is gonna complicate managers because the fema people are working as fast as they can, the difficult ut as you know is to rebuild, not only recover but identify the remains. >> unbelievable to think about what's ahead with 114 people confirmed dad. but still, up to 1000 people still missing. alice, thank you so much. we wish you the best and your community as well. as you try and recover, and rebuild from the disaster that hit your area. thank you. >> thank you very much. for those that want to donate go to miley county dot u.s. and if possible we really need cash donations right now. our needs have changed over time. and we pretty much -- basic supplies. but we do need other