that camera would be seen by anybody but the person at the house. well, thousands of people have seen it and have made that message their own. everyone matters. that wraps up the hour for me. i'm jose diaz-balart. you can always reach me on social media and you can watch high lights from today's show online. thank you for the privilege of your time. andrea mitchell picks up with more news right now. right now on "andrea mitchell reports," tropical storm hilary ripping through the western u.s., flooding communities with record rainfall. as california's north of l.a. hit a one-two punch from hilary and a 5.1 magnitude earthquake and aftershocks. all this as president biden leaves for hawaii today to survey the devastation and talk to survivors there as anger mounts at the state and federal response. and crews keep searching for as

many as 850 still missing. plus, our new poll with des moines register, the first time year on iowa with some surprising results at what likely republican voters think about front-runner, donald trump, and his challengers. as the former president and his 18 co-defendants in georgia still have to surrender at the fulton county jail for booking on the alleged election racketeering case by noon this friday. when will any of them show up? and good day, everyone. i'm andrea mitchell in washington. tropical storm hilary is setting off flash flood alerts from central california to idaho as millions of americans are bracing for severe weather or dealing with record flooding. priscilla thompson is in

california. what's the latest there and to the north? >> reporter: yeah, andrea. the sun is out right now, but i want to show you what folks here are dealing with. we are on a closed road right now and as you can see, this water is just washing over this road. it looks like a river. they have set up barricades so that folks are not going into this area and so we want to get a little closer safely just to show you all what it's looking like but residents here tell me this area normally bone dry. so there are folks who have been coming down this road trying to get to work today and this is what they are encountering. it literally just looks like a river going right across the road. and that is because of the amount of rain that this area saw yesterday. both here and in palm springs, which got .9 inches of rain in about an hour. that is a new record. palm springs saw nearly 50% of its yearly average in a matter of six hours and we know that officials tried very hard to

prepare for this. there were residents picking up sandbags to protect their homes and businesses, but still, 911 was knocked out in palm springs and two other city cathedral in this area. so folks last night as this heavy flooding was happening, were being urged to call the full phone number because they were not able to get through to 911. now, the mayor in palm springs says the issue has been fixed. that if people call 911, they'll be able to get through. she also said there were several swift water rescues that had to be performed overnight, but thankfully no report of fatalities. so officials today are heading out trying to assess the damage. coming to roads like this one and setting up blockades so people are not attempting to drive through this kind of weather. they're asking folks if they can, please stay home while officials try to get out, get those street lights back up and

running and also work on reopening these roads. andrea? >> priscilla thompson, thank you for starting us off. president biden and the first lady heading to hawaii leaving their lake tahoe vacation to survey the damage from the wildfires in maui, meet with state and local leaders and comfort victims over their losses. the latest numbers are staggering. at least 114 dead. 850 others officially believed to be still missing including many children. steve patterson is on maui. steve, what will the president see today? how is he going to be received? >> reporter: you know, andrea, if the president is known as the consoler in chief, that moniker will be put to the test when he lands today. this will be one of the toughest things that he sees as president. i can guarantee you that. the president, of course, as you mentioned, will meet with public officials. meet with the governor. these are people that according

to the white house, he's already been in contact with. but he will also meet with families. families who have missing loved ones. families who have lost everything and doing his job, trying to reaffirm their tenacity, their will here, as they try to work through this incredible scene. they've combed through about 85% of that scene so far. still 850 missing people as you mentioned. president also expected to give remarks and sort of address the situation on the ground here. but he is walking into a very highly critical situation as well. we do expect to maybe see a few protests pop up. we've been speaking to the residents here, to people here, who have said that resources at a county, a state, and federal level have felt slow, agonizingly slow in some cases and beyond that, beyond the feeling of what's actually happening on the ground, i think there was a lack of

communication they felt, too, that the president didn't say enough in the direct aftermath of a fire storm that swept through what used to be the cultural seat of hawaii. so i think there will be a lot of criticism on the ground when he's here. there may be some friction. but there are also people who are glad and happy he's here. there is some recognition from the federal government and that federal resources are flowing in and people here feel that as well. >> steve, thanks for setting the stage and senator brian, democrat from hawaii, lifelong hawaiian joins us now and is going to be with the president for the tour and meetings today. senator, thank you very much. our condolences, the whole world, nation, has really been gripped by this. tell me about the frustration on the ground and the federal, local response? we know the governor this weekend was critical of the immediate response of the emergency leader there in

hawaii. who was very defensive about this, but eventually did resign and made the decision apparently not to set off the sirens. >> well, this is the most devastating wildfire in more than 100 years in the united states as you mentioned, 114 dead and the death toll continues to mount. 2200 structures totally destroyed. it's really like nothing i've ever seen. it's like a war zone. so i'm happy that the president and the first lady are arriving in a few hours to tour the damage and to talk the families and first responders. within the first six hours, the president signed the major disaster declaration. just so happened that the person who runs fema for our region happened to be in honolulu for a conference so he was immediately on the job. so i've never seen such a mobilization of federal resources and i've been through

tsunamis and hurricanes and small wildfires and volcanic eruptions. that's also because we've seen never seen such a devastating, severe weather event. always more to do and one of the things i'm hoping for is the commitment for the long run. we are still in an emergency situation. lots of people still don't have power and connectivity and not everybody has found housing, although we're probably about 90, 95% there. but there's a lot of work to do over long period of time. maui county is resilient. people of maui are strong but we're going to need help from everybody. >> in terms of the 850 still listed as missing, what is your hope in terms of perhaps a large number of those are just because of communications and are really alive and well somewhere with relatives, with friends. but how do you see that number being reduced or do you think that it is really that number of people who may really be lost?

>> i don't know. obviously the hope is to the extent we still have 15,000 people without reliable telecommunications, we're hoping that a large percentage of that 850 is just about not having cell coverage and not having checked in with the government. a lot of people having lost everything are not immediately thinking about checking in with the government. they're thinking about their own physical and mental survival. so we hope it's that's but we just don't know. fema has brought in a team of technicians with cadaver dogs and they're working with the fbi and coroner's office to identify the remains. but it is a slow process to get it right. we just don't know what the total number of dead will be. >> do you think that while the fema response is you point out it was someone who's in charge of the region who was there for a conference, they did do what

they needed to do. the president made the emergency designation. he didn't come out and speak publicly. is there a part of this that is public perception, but that's part of politics, being a leader? >> well, i think listen. i guess i would offer this. like i said, i've never seen such a federal mobilization. there are more than 1,000 personnel on the ground. this was a catastrophe. i think it's fair to say it overwhelmed the resources available to the maui management agency, the maui police department, the maui fire department. everyone worked as hard as they could but they were clearly very overwhelmed. now the federal resources are fully mobilized. we're getting into a better rhythm. but you know, we're not out of this. this is really, really challenging stuff. i will say that as i, you know, go to maui about every other day or every third day to try to get as much information as i can,

help as much as i can, but also stay out of the way, people are not talking about president biden and -- people are talking about fema, the department of defense. they're talking about the coast guard. and there was some frustration, some acute frustration that the roads were shutdown for west maui. that's obviously not a federal decision. but that was one of the reasons that people were cut off from sort of civilization in terms of being able to get prescriptions or groceries or you know, put a generator on a truck. so that was the cause of acute frustration at the beginning and it got resolved once the national guard was in a position to secure lahaina town. look, we've got a long road and this is an awful situation, but we're now in a position where we're working closely together. state, federal, county. especially not just non-profits, but individual people who have no affiliation at all. people with just a jet-ski or a

toyota tacoma or whatever it may be to try to provide some relief to their friends an and family. >> this is just extraordinary about the american response as well as the local response. the community and the strength. one final thing. the national guard is there and i know those troops are hawaiian troops state ordered, but is it more that the military can do to help the supply chain issue? whatever backlogs there are, especially as you get into reconstruction. >> you know, i talked to charlie flynn, the head of u.s. army pacific. i've talked to secretary austen and they have followed up on this promise to provide the full resources of the department of defense. those resources have to be requested through our local emergency managers and they're doing that, but i think it's fair to say there's nothing the local government has asked of the department of defense that the department of defense has not said yes to. so they are fully engaged in a

joint command structure and i've been very, very impressed. the navy called me and end o pay com is fully engaged through the hawaii management agency. >> senator, we thank you and again, our condolences, our sympathy is with you and everyone in the hawaii community for what your state has endured. best wishes. >> thank you very much, andrea. appreciate it. >> thanks for being with us. and presidential immunity. donald trump's former chief of staff floating a strategy for why he says he should not be charged in the trump georgia case. will the former president follow suit? that's next when "andrea mitchell reports" is back in just 60 seconds on msnbc. k in just 60 seconds on msnbc (christina) with verizon business unlimited, i get 5g, truly unlimited data, and unlimited hotspot data. so, no matter what, i'm running this kitchen. (vo) make the switch. it's your business. it's your verizon.

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fulton county jail this week for donald trump's surrender. he and his 18 co-defendants have until friday at noon to show up, but law enforcement officials are telling nbc news the former president is not expected before thursday. lawyers are reportedly meeting with the d.a. to negotiate bond and other terms of surrender. joining me now, blayne alexander outside the courthouse. greg bluestein, "washington post" reporter, jackie, and former fbi general counsel and prosecutor, andrew weissman. so, blayne, this jail is really notorious. even the officials are admitting it's in terrible shape. there are all kinds of dangers there. as far as the prison population and the conditions. how is the sheriff preparing for 19 high profile surrenders including a former president of the united states?

>> as we await the former president and others who turn themselves in, yes, this is a jail that is under doj investigation. a jail where they've seen sechbl inmate deaths this year. where they have issues with overcrowding, bedbugs, you know, according to one report, shanks being fashioned out of the crumbling building. now, it's a poor mistake that it is highly unlikely that the former president will spend any time inside that building once he's processed. typically, if someone were to be processed, just a normal person, that could take upwards of 12 hours. getting in, booking, if they make bail. now, certainly that process is going to be expedited for the former president. when you ask what preparations look like, i'm told they're still underway. plans have not been finalized yet, including which day this will take place. whether it's thursday or friday. but the other questions of course, what will that expedited process look like and what way is he going to enter the jail.

go in the front door? kind of a back portico sort of way that's largely away from camera view? we know the secret service is very involved in the process. they came down and were scoping out places in fulton county even before the indictments were handed up last week. so they have a strong say from a state of the standpoint and then of course, the d.a.'s office, trump attorney, even the judge have opportunities to weigh in as well. >> and andrew, mark meadows, the former chief of staff, he wants his charges dismissed. he's filed claiming he's protected by presidential immunity as a former federal officer as trump's chief of staff. how likely is it for mark meadows, the former president, if he pursues that same issue? meadows had already previously asked that there also be a change of venue, to change the trial to federal trial, not a state trial so that the jury pool would be larger.

>> sure. >> on the one hand, you have mark meadows and likely other former federal officers will do the same, which is seem to move the case from state court to federal court. notably, that does not change the charges. they're still state charges. they still cannot be presidentially pardoned by any kind of future president. they're still state charges. they just would be tried in a federal venue. and the prosecutors stay with a case, but as you mentioned, andrea, the jury pool is different. the judge is different and also, there are no cameras currently in federal court where as there are cameras in state court. to blayne's reporting, this arraignment will not look like any of the others we've seen because we'll actually see the former president being arraigned like any other defendant without the troppings of the secret

service. so that should be quite different. with respect to immunity, i think this is one of the more frivolous arguments. when you are in office, you have limited immunity if you're taking decisions based on your role in office. conducting yourself within the bounds of office. if you're engaged in a coup against the united states, that is antithetical to your oath of office as if you know, biden said there's no reason to have an election. i'm just going to declare myself the winner of the next election. we would all think that's outrageous. he would not be immune from it. so donald trump is in no different situation. i don't think that is the strongest argument. with respect to removal, we'll have to wait and see. i think there are arguments on both sides but i think the better argument is not for removal here. >> it doesn't seem as though i can recall another chief of

staff who came down to a state and asked to look at voting machines and for the count, to supervise the count. didn't seem to be part of his official duties. want to quickly point out jack smith has now asked judge chutkan on the federal case for a time to respond. he said in a very brief six-pge response that the trial be delayed until 2026. saying it is a very brief response but he thinks there's still time for her to review it before the scheduled august 28th hearing. seems like a brief response could be in order for delaying it that many years after the '24 election. >> i do think it's important for them to be heard on that. it is, this is basically the whole ball of wax right now in the d.c. case, which is the date of the trial. will it be before the republican convention or the general election? or will it be after this mission

by the defense. i think for those of us who are litigators, there are a lot of cause in that argument and i think jack smith wants an opportunity to present those flaws. >> so, greg, let's talk about the difference between the jury pool in fulton, in the federal case, rather, in all of north georgia, that district rather than fulton county. >> it's a good question because fulton county is one of the biggest, most important democratic strongholds in georgia. it's a very, it's decidedly left leaning county whereas the northern district of georgia pulls for the much border territory. much more politically diverse territory. up into the north georgia mountains, very red territory. even around metro atlanta, you've got a lot more politically competitive areas. that's gives you an idea why mark meadows, but also donald trump is expected to seek a federal trial. seek moving this to federal

court. >> jackie, donald trump canceled his event today, where he said there would be a news conference, irrefutable defense of his indictment, but we've confirmed he has recorded that interview with tucker carlson. that's a prerecorded interview he intends to use during the republican primary debate. >> that's right. trump is once again thrown the playbook out the window for what you'd expect from a front-runner and is not participating in the debate on wednesday and instead, will be counterprogramming with the tucker carlson interview that he's already pretaped. i imagine that he has spoken quite a bit about the 2020 election. he has been set on relitigating it against the advice of some of his advisers. republican strategists as well who think it doesn't do the

republican party any good to continue to rehash an event that has now brought a lot of criminal exposure for many republicans close to trump and obviously for trump himself. >> greg, jackie, and andrew, thanks to all of you. and by the numbers. a brand-new nbc news poll shows just who the republican party, rather showing the republican party is just not quitting on donald trump. these are big numbers. our poll for iowa and why his lead in the 2024 race for the gop nomination continues to grow. you're watching "andrea mitchell reports." this is msnbc. watching "andreal reports. this is msnbc. my frequent heartburn had me taking antacid after antacid all day long but with prilosec otc just one pill a day

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a imagine nbc poll from iowa, part of a partnership with the des moines register, giving us the first real data. the poll shows donald trump has a formidable lead. more than 20 points ahead of desantis, the lead that even grow after the indictment last week and a strong majority of republican caucusgoers, 65%, say donald trump has not committed significant crimes. joining us now, nbc news senior political editor, mark murray, republican strategist, susan,

and boston globe columnist, kimberly atkins store. mark, you're the poll guy. they acknowledged you know pollster maven and leader, guru, if you will. in iowa. i was really struck also by the among evangelicals, being so strong for trump. and the high negatives for mike pence, who has been such a devout christian for his whole life. those who think he tells the truth. >> this is the gold standard iowa poll conducted by ann selzer, the long time iowa pollster and donald trump does have a formidable and sizable lead among evangelicals. his 27-point lead is larger than his overall 23-point lead and he

ends up overperforming among self-identified republicans as well as first time likely caucusgoers, so that is notable. and then mike pence, entire base and identity, is with evangelicals, it's just at 6% so not breaking through. after the top three you ended up mentioning, we ended up having people like mike pence who's at 6%. nikki haley, then ramaswami. but there's some really good news if you're a ron desantis or tim scott. they both have very high favorable ratings. in fact, the 66% of likely iowa caucusgoers who have a favorable rating of desantis, there's actually one point higher than donald trump at 65%. and tim scott also breaks through with very high ratings. two folks who are under water with likely republican

caucusgoers, that's chris christie and mike pence. and certainly, christie, who has criticized trump a lot on the campaign trail, you see that in the numbers that there's been a backlash to that. >> with mike pence, those that are unfavorable about him, is that all about january 6th? >> it is important to note the different of the unfavorables mike pence versus chris christie. christie's numbers are really upside down. pence is 43 unfavorable. you can tell a difference in mike pence's reaction versus the constant criticism you hear from christie that's directed at donald trump. >> susan, when we see these kinds of numbers of donald trump having such strong favorables, how do you reconcile that with not only the indictments. we can see that also the you know, the indictments made him, the last one made him stronger.

but the record that he has on you know, family values. on telling the truth. >> yeah, i think what we see in this poll especially among evangelicals is that donald trump has made this a race about us versus them. the main question he used to ask, especially primary voters, who shares your values. donald trump doesn't have any values. he doesn't expect his followers to have any values. he just expects them to follow him. so i think that's what we're seeing within the republican party right now. is that it's just us versus them. and that's the argument that wins the day and it covers frankly a whole lot of sins. it doesn't make it one issue. but i do think that tim scott's positive numbers are a place where he can see certain movement, especially if trump with attacks from chris

christie, for example, that spread against joe biden gets bigger and he looks more and more electable in november, i think tim scott gets another look. >> and to kimberly, how important is the debate with donald trump not being there? >> well, donald trump will be the biggest figure at the debate even if he's not there. right? it's how the other candidates react to him and treat him. this is, it could be perilous for the people who are on that stage. it's very rare that a really great debate performance suddenly propels someone to go on and win a primary, but it's common for a gaffe to really knock out a race. we've seen that with folks like rick perry in the past. so i think they need to not make a mistake, but they need to figure out their messaging when it comes to the strong front-runner here. i'll add one other point to what susan said about why that

support is so strong. for donald trump, it's not just he doesn't have the values that connect to evangelicals. it's what a candidate does, not what they say or even believe. and donald trump delivered on the promise to particularly put conservatives on the court. that's why his favorables remain so strong in places like iowa. >> thanks to you and mark, i know you're going to have more poll numbers every day this week and certainly you know major coverage after the debate, but every day, more poll numbers and hopefully see mark and your colleagues reporting from iowa as well as milwaukee with the debate. after the gop debate on wednesday, make sure to join rachel maddow and joy reid at 11:00 p.m. eastern. that's here on msnbc and streaming on peacock. after afghanistan, two years since the chaos in kabul, what's being done to help those who

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this month marks two years since the withdrawal of u.s. troops from afghanistan. president biden's decision to end the 20-year war in 2021 led

to the swift collapse of the afghan government then to the taliban takeover. the state department in an after action report recently was wildly criticized for the lack of preparation that led to the chaos at the kabul airport as afghans climbed on to planes, desperate to leave. and the resulting terror attack ten days later that killed 13 american service members and more than 150 afghans. the crisis is not over for 76,000 afghan allies who were evacuated alongside u.s. troops. they are living in the u.s. but now they face the challenge of staying in the country. congress has failed so far to create a path for legal, permanent residency, leaving some evacuees in legal limbo, unable to keep their jobs. those who have them. joining me now is jack mccain, afghanistan war veteran, also the son of the late arizona republican, great american hero, senator john mccain. and jack, i've known you for

many years and your family. and it's great to see you in this role. not surprising at all considering you know, the public service legacy of mccain family. including your mother, as an ambassador. you've been advocating to keep afghans in the u.s. you helped dozens of afghans settle in the u.s. tell us why this is so personal for you. >> because i flew and fought alongside afghan pilots in kandahar and helmand for a year of my life. when the collapse came, a dedicated group of people across all walks of life, whether they were military, civilian, got together to bring them to the united states and now we have a moral responsibility to make sure they're capable of staying. >> i read that you said that in particular, the people around you kept your identity secret.

for quite some time for most of that year. until you had to reveal your identity by coming home for your father's funeral. it had been known that you were jack mccain, son of john mccain, that could have certainly put a target on you for a lot of danger. threats to your life. >> my biggest concern was less worry for my own personal safety and more worry of those around me. i did make a high profile target, but the pilots and crew i worked with, despite knowing who i was, kept that a secret and made sure that i wasn't a high profile target. so i will be grateful for the rest of my life for their efforts. >> to those afghan heroes who did get out and got here, i've talked to some who cannot get

jobs and this lack of permanent residency is a real problem. some who have tremendous talents who work for the state department for instance. we know not all got out. some were left behind and finally got out. so what can be done with this legislation to give them a path to support their families? >> absolutely. the afghan adjustment act is a must pass in my mind. we have to make sure that afghans who made it to the united states and those still waiting to come can stay here and have their legal status. right now, we are hoping that in conference, that they'll get included into the mdaa. we know we have the votes to pass it. we just need the vehicle to do it. and we need members of congress on both sides of the al to move

the legislation forward. >> of course, the mdaa, which is always a must pass bill with strong bipartisan support, is this year and probably held up by one senator and the objections. senator tuberville's objections, which is holding up military promotions as well. this is now part of the mix. you needed to get this on the defense bill. >> we want any vehicle to get it passed. the ndaa is one that we believe it has a great chance because it is a must pass. whatever the vehicle is, we will not stop fighting in order to pass the bill. we as americans, we as service members, as the united states, have a debt of honor and a moral responsibility to make sure that those who have fought alongside us, those that are put in danger because of that, them and their family members are able to stay here in the united states. >> if i may get personal and ask

you, and i think i know the answer from what you're doing right now, how has your father's legacy inspired and informed your work? >> when my father returned from vietnam, he approached the rest of his political career with the idea of reconciliation and making sure as well the vietnam adjustment act was passed in the united states. similar to what we'd like to do with the afghan adjustment act. i also agree with the idea of reconciliation, but most importantly, taking care of those who bet their lives on the promises of the united states. his legacy absolutely has informed my work but also my personal experiences that the love and caring i have for the afghans i fought alongside and belief that the united states is the place that should do the right thing. it is morally incumbent upon us to make sure it's done. >> well, jack mccain, former

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water. washington state was hit with wildfires after wildfires in northwest canada forces evacuations last week. the governor of washington tieing it all back to climate change. >> the fact of the matter is there's a beast at our door and that's the beast of seems like s on fire. we need to defend ourself from climate change. we need to decarbonize our economy so these fires don't ravage us. there's not enough wildfires in the world to protect us if we don't stop climate change. >> joining ut is professor michael mann, director of the penn center for science and sustainability. good to see you again, might beal mann. let's start with tropical storm hilary. this is a first. why is this storm so abnormal for california and what does it say for what lies ahead? >> the governor laid it out pretty clearly.

this is climate change. we're seeing it in all of its forms, in the wildfires in canada, what happened in maui, the flooding rains we're now seeing in california. you see greater extremes at both ends of the spectrum, a warmer ocean puts more moisture into the atmosphere. when you get rainfall, you get larger amounts of it, you get flooding events. warmer soils evaporate more moisture, so you get more drought over the sub tropics and the mid latitudes. this is it. greater extremes at both ends of the spectrum, whether it's this very rare hurricane. the statistics of pacific hurricanes that go in that direction are small enough that when we use models to estimate how likely they are, it's sort of hard to really establish whether there's a trend or not because they're such rare events. what we can talk about is the huge amount of moisture, the

huge amount of rainfall. that's what this storm -- the real threat that it poses. >> now, is there a difference between the wildfires potentially that devastated maui and the wildfires in the west and what we're seeing in canada? is the ocean temperature as warm around hawaii as it is here? >> that's a great question. canada in the summer, you're well into mid latitudes. it tends to get quite dry in western canada. we don't expect that for maui, for the tropical islands of hawaii. it's sort of something that we're not used to. we're not used to thinking about extreme drought on the hawaiian islands, but the trend is in that direction. it's been getting warmer, hotter, more evaporation of moisture from the soils, and rainfall has been going down.

it's a double whammy. it was the extreme drought in parts of the island that help facilitate the damage, the extent of those wildfires. it's different dynamics playing out in different places, but the underlying factor, the warming of the planet, increased evaporation rates is common to a lot of these. now, i'll mention one other factor with maui, with the hurricane that sort of went to the south of maui that contributed to the very strong winds. so the winds depend on how large the differences in pressure are. when you have a hurricane to the south, that's really lowering the pressure. it gives you a different gradient in pressure, worse winds. those winds were an important part of the problem. they helped spread the fires, knock down the fire lines. why did it intensify, that hurricane intensify so quickly?

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celebrating. why wouldn't they? its first women's world cup championship, defeating england 1-0 in nail biting fashion. nbc's matt bradley joining us live from london. devastating for the england who

wanted to be the first to bring it home. such a victory for spain, a team that had to overcome a lot. >> it would be the first time any england team had won the world cup since the 1960s. epg land was ranked higher than spain going into this tournament. england had just won the women's european championship last year, and they had to beat spain to do it. there was a lot of expectation that england was going to take the day. spain's side had been suffering from a lot of drama. a lot of the spanish players had actually been on a strike for much of the past year demanding a new coach. while that strike was unsuccessful, it's not only about the lack of training and playing during the strike, but it left a lot of distrust between the players and the coaches and among the different players. one of the top spanish players was out for an injury for much of last year. this really was a remarkable win. it surprised a lot of people, and it really goes to show that the spanish team wasn't going to

be left out. >> matt bradley, thanks so much to you. it was amazing indeed. that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." thanks for being with us. follow us on social media @mitchellreports. "chris jansing reports" starts right now. good day. i'm chris jansing live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. it's a storm southern california won't soon forget. this is the kind of power and destruction we saw. check this out. floodwaters gushing mud and debris onto the roadways. it looks like oil. it is not that, folks. now as what's left of hurricane hilary churns through the western u.s., l.a. dealing with unprecedented rain. roads blocked, neighborhoods inundated. flood watches still in effect from the southern tip of california all the way to the u.s./canadian