>> matt bradley, thanks so much to you. it was amazing indeed. that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." thanks for being with us. follow us on social media @mitchellreports. "chris jansing reports" starts right now. good day. i'm chris jansing live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. it's a storm southern california won't soon forget. this is the kind of power and destruction we saw. check this out. floodwaters gushing mud and debris onto the roadways. it looks like oil. it is not that, folks. now as what's left of hurricane hilary churns through the western u.s., l.a. dealing with unprecedented rain. roads blocked, neighborhoods inundated. flood watches still in effect from the southern tip of california all the way to the u.s./canadian border.

californians expanding their disaster vocabulary to include a new word, hurriquake. in hawaii, an official number of those still missing, and it's bad. while the 114 confirmed dead, just a handful have been identified among those. a few hours from now president biden will meet with those who lost their homes, their livelihoods and loved ones. what can he say or do today to start to ease even a tiny fraction of their pain? what do you do when fixing a 23-point deficit in a new poll is actually good news. the brand new polling out of iowa that shows republicans closer to donald trump than they are in the vast majority of the national polls. what does that tell us about their chances of maybe pulling a primary season upset? we start out west. with the power of the hurricane, then tropical storm behind her, hilary is churning across idaho

and oregon posing more threats while millions in california and nevada have been left shaken and stunned by the kind of catastrophic weather they have literally never seen before. the rain turning streets into rivers. mudslides shut down roads and stranded residents. more than a dozen people had to be rescued from a homeless encampment in san diego, the dangerous result of its wettest day in history and its first tropical storm since the 1930s. bluntly, the mayor there saying, quote, our city is just not built for this. hilary dumped more than six months' worth of rain in a matter of hours, as much as a foot, smashing all of the daily records in the area by early this morning. to give you an idea of how rare this kind of storm is, the average rainfall in l.a. in august is zero. schools in both los angeles and san diego are shut down today. and as if that isn't enough,

southern california also got hit with this. [ crashing ]. >> everyone outside. >> that is what is being dubbed as a hurriquake, the 5.1 quake that hit ventura county but felt far beyond those borders, right in the middle of the storm. remember when folks were being warned to stay away from the deadly heat in death valley national park last month? the high there yesterday was 82. that is a typical number for november, but they also got nearly 3 inches of rain just yesterday, more than the park's annual average of 2.2 inches. so much rain, in fact, they had to close the park due to flooding. nbc's guad venegas joins me from san diego and also with me,

nbc's bill karins. guad, how worried are officials about additional flooding in the hours and days to come? >> reporter: the weather has cleared up in san diego. just minutes ago, as you started the show, we saw the first ray of sunlight since probably two or three days ago. the sun has come out in san diego. we had light rain this morning. as of now we still have some flooding in the low areas. of course, this tropical storm hit yesterday with rain all through out the day. you've been showing a lot of these videos that show the massive floods that took place. you've got to think of california understanding the geography. this storm came across northern mexico and into southern california through the mountains east of san diego. that area was preparing as best as possible for that wind and that heavy rain. as it moved north from san diego county, that rain dropped a lot of water down the mountains into the deserts going east and also

into the rivers moving west. we have had some floods. we knew from the beginning there was a danger of floods. county officials, local officials and state officials prepared for this. in fact, one of those videos was in oak glenn, california. that's in the san bernardino mountains where we saw the mud and massive flooding. that area was evacuated. the other air yaz in the deserts are areas they knew this could happen. it's flat land that doesn't absorb a lot of water. authorities have done a good job preparing residents, preparing people for what was coming. we've seen the damage it caused to some of the roads. one of the major freeways in san diego had a boulder come off the mountain. authorities responding quickly and shutting that down. we saw a major effort by state and local authorities preparing for the storm. as of now, the result is the flooding, the damage to the roads and the mountain areas where they're still paying close attention because of the possibility for mudslides.

that's here in the area of north san diego moving into san bernardino and riverside counties. as you mentioned, in los angeles they had some of that rain and that earthquake northwest of los angeles that, of course, shook some of those residents as the tropical storm made its way north. >> guad venegas, it looks like what i think of when i think of san diego behind you, but not what people experienced over the past 24 hours or so. bill, i'll start with where the remains of hilary are now. >> the heavy rain threat into the northern rockies. how aurn do we say that, the remnants of a tropical system are in the rockies? that's the case. near baker city, notice california has almost completely dried out. it's all done. even the videos of the mudslides and the landslides, those are

all done. those have all stopped. no more rain or flash flooding throughout the region. how much rain did we get? we thought sam would have a chance of ten inches. these are mountains north of downtown los angeles. they had a ton of rain. l.a. was 2.5, san diego a little over 2. maybe in the winter time you get storms like that. not this time of year. this is what's left with our flood watches. we've canceled a lot of them. one flash flood warning. we don't have any other widespread flash flooding. as far as additional rainfall, we'll slide up here towards idaho and northern idaho into areas of western monday. now i have to take a quick break. we have other topics in the tropics to talk about, emily, gert, franklin. i'll talk about the one that doesn't have a name yet. it should this time tomorrow be harold and moving into texas as a tropical storm. this is a big area of clouds and

thunderstorms. you can start to see a hitting banding on this. the hurricane center thinks this has a chance of becoming a tropical depression and move into texas as a tropical storm. conditions are favorable for development. as long as it happens slowly, we're okay. the hurricane center has it going to 35 miles per hour landfall, maybe 50 miles per hour. chris, we're at the time of year where the storms pop up in a hurry. it looks like tomorrow morning we'll be talking about a tropical storm making landfall in texas between brownsville and corpus christi. this time it's good news. they're in a drought. a rainy day with no damage. they're probably actually going to like that. >> we could use good news in the weather department. bill karins, thank you. shane reichert is the public information officer for riverside county's emergency management department. thank you for scombroining us. i think the place most people would know are palm springs, temecula. we have incredible video from

your county. this is from thousand homes which we see it, a truck flooded more than halfway up the doors. how bad did it get in riverside county? >> when they're talking about the 12 inches of rain, that drains into the coachella valley where palm springs and thousand palms is. you're seeing runoff from the mountain communities. we've seen rainfall in heavy quantities in those areas. it could have been much worse. what we're expecting could have been much worse. we're fortunate so far. haven't heard any fatalities. it was a lot of rain in a short amount of time. >> how much cleanup are you looking at? do you have what you need to get it done. are you looking to get some reinto forcements in from elsewhere? >> with the daylight hours, we start our process for damage assessment throughout riverside county to figure oust where the

damage is. we have 7,300 square miles, a lot of area to cover. what you're seeing we know about. we're concerned about the damage that we're not aware of. that's the process we're in, damage assessment and then full scale into the damage recovery. >> what's your level of concern about the days ahead? are you worried about more flooding? is there more water that's going to come down from the mountains? >> we're still seeing the water come down from the mountains. the amount of water that's coming down has definitely decreased. we're cautiously optimistic that we're seeing the worst of it. we've got a lot of cleanup to do. a lot to get the water out of the roadway. interstate 10, a major thoroughfare through california and into other states, we've got portions of that closed with mud and debris flowing over the top of it. we've got a lot of intersections that still have standing water

in those intersections. you're showing the footage, vehicles driving through those flooded roadways. just a lot of water. we're not built for it. this time of year we're typically dealing with wildfires. it's usually dry out this time of year. >> i don't know how long you've lived in that county. but if you ever experienced anything like this? >> i've lived here all my life, multigenerational in this county. we have had rain before. we're an area where this time of year it's usually dry. a lot of it is that it's not expected, a lot of rain in a short amount of time. when we get rain in our area of california, we get rain that's a little bit or when we get large quantities, it's spread out over several days. it's just that the amount of rain in the short duration that really causes these kinds of problems. >> shane, i know you have your work cut out for you. thank you for taking the time to talk to us. combine the unfolding

disaster on the west coast with the horrific situation in iowa, record rain in the south and midwest, wildfires in washington. it's clear why president biden is under pressure to declare a climate emergency. that pressure expected to grow more intense as he comes face to face with first responders and wildfire survivors in maui later today. dhs secretary alejandra mayorkas told my colleague, ana cabrera, they understand the problem but are vague with things moving forward. >> the frequency and gravity of extreme weather events in the united states and around the world is one of the greatest challenges that the globe currently encounters. we need to work together as a community of people across the world to address this. >> i want to bring in nbc's monica alba who covers the white house for us. monica, what exactly would it mean for the president to declare a climate emergency?

do we know why they haven't explicitly decided to take that step? i know there are interviews the president has done and questions raised about what actually has happened. >> reporter: this has been a discussion in the biden administration over the last two years according to officials i've spoken with. this is something that democratic allies of the president, that climate groups and activists have called for and pushed for and asked for. the president said we haven't done that in a formal way, but practically speaking, they argued that they have put forth all of these measures that have done what would amount to declaring a climate emergency when you talk about the difficult and devastating acts of nature we've seen over the last couple years. here is how the president specifically when he was asked about that, framed a couple weeks ago when he was at the grand canyon. >> are you prepared to declare a national emergency with respect to climate change? >> already done that.

we've conserved moreland, we've rejoined the paris climate accord. we passed the $368 billion climate control facility. we're moving. it is the existential threat to humanity. >> you're already declared the national emergency? >> practically speaking, yes. >> reporter: again, there are many who support the president who have pushed him to do more on this. the white house continues to say with things like the inflation reduction act which is billions of dollars that go towards combat and climate change, that is action they have taken that will have success here. of course, it is a huge threat to our national security overall. when the president is in maui today meeting with survivors of those horrific wildfires, talking to the local officials, the fema personnel on the ground highlighting the response, that is not what's going to be the main focus. really the white house is saying he's going there to console this grieving community, to pledge to rebuild lahaina. that's why he's appointing bob

fenton, the regional fema official there to a chief federal response coordinator that will oversee rebuilding in maui, which we're told by the white house will take years because every single building, essentially, was obliterated. the president will see that from the sky and then he'll be on the ground and offer remarks. he'll pledge he'll be there to support maui for as long as it takes with whatever it takes. chris. >> monica alba, thank you frnlt a brand new nbc news poll in iowa has numbers we haven't seen in two decades. nbc's steve kornacki will join us from the big board to dig into former president donald trump's base of support in this critical first caucus state. we're back in 60 seconds. back is , and mine's unlisted. try boost® high protein with 20 grams of protein for muscle health versus 16 grams in ensure® high protein. boost® high protein. now available in cinnabon® bakery-inspired flavor. learn more at boost.com/tv

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today it is the largest caucus lead we've seen in more than 20 years. former president donald trump way out in front in iowa, despite four indictments and a vow he will skill wednesday's debate and, frankly, maybe the rest of them, too. trump leads his nearest rival, ron desantis, by 23 points. what these overall numbers don't show is a possible opening for a few other candidates who voters also view favorably. that is just a possible opening. nbc's steve kornacki joins us from the big board to break down the numbers. we're also joined by charlie sykes, editor at large from the bulwark and an msnbc columnist. this poll is a result of a new partnership with ann seltzer. this is the gold standard. what does it tell us. >> it's a great partnership. this is the iowa poll that everyone in politics has been waiting for, the first read from ann seltzer, "the des moines

register," nbc news sponsoring this poll. trump with a better than 2-1 advantage over his rival, ron desantis. nobody else in double digits yet. tim scott at 9. a scattering for the rest of them. this poll was conducted a week ago as that indictment of donald trump in georgia was playing out. basically part of the poll was conducted before the news of that indictment, and in that portion of the poll, trump's lead over desantis was 18. and then part of this poll was conducted after the indictment, when that news had broken, and in that portion of the poll when it was conducted, trump's lead swelled to 25 points. a little bit of evidence there of a rally around trump effect among republicans when you get these indictments, these various legal proceedings. a 23-point lead for donald trump. you mentioned we haven't seen a republican with a lead this big at this point in an iowa republican race in a while,

though we have seen big movement from this point to the caucuses. it's worth noting that what's pouring trump in iowa is evangelical voters. they play such a huge part in the caucuses. about two-thirds of all caucus-goers in 2016 identified as evangelicals. donald trump lost evangelicals in the 2016 caucuses by double digits. what a different world we're living in now. in this poll he leads by 27 points. it's a core part of his strength in iowa. okay. if his opponents are going to make a move on him in iowa, who would it be? where would you look? i think this is the graphic to look at. this is the favorable/unfavorable, the measure of popularity among the candidates. two things jump out. look at the candidates who have gone after trump directly, chris christie has been attacking him,

will hurd, asa hutchinson. mike pence has had some harsh words. trump certainly had harsh words for pence. they all have one thing in common. those are the candidates that are more unpopular than popular. among republican voters, the attacks on trump do not seem to be endearing any of those candidates to republican voters. take a look at who has the highest favorable score? it's not donald trump. it's ron desantis a point above trump. look at tim scott, 59% favorable rating. only 17% unfavorable. even nikki haley a 2-1 margin favorable over unfavorable. these are candidates that are not getting huge support in our poll, but you're seeing broad good will towards these candidates among iowa republican voters. opportunity for them on wednesday night perhaps. if drum isn't on the debate stage, can one of them have that

breakout performance? that's the key. if there's going to be a candidate that rises up and gives trump a run in iowa and maybe knocks trump off in iowa, it's going to be one of these candidates consolidating the non-trump vote. we also asked who their second choice was. look at this. it's a muddle. there's no consensus second choice right now. desantis at 20%, scott at 15%. ramaswamy even in double digits. somebody has to consolidate that non-trump support to beat him in iowa. when kwluk at the need trump has nationally and his strength in other states, it may be essential for these non-trump candidates, if they're going to stop him, they may have to win in iowa to have a chance to roll it into something in the later

states. >> fascinating stuff, steve. thank you. so good to see you back again. i don't even know where to begin with this, to be honest, charlie. let me say this besides the whole thing about evangelical numbers. not even a teflon presidency anymore. i don't know what the word is to describe that. if you have a high favorable, and we see several of the candidates do, people may like you but it doesn't mean they'll vote for you for president. it's better to be liked than not liked for president. can one of those candidates take it on wednesday and turn it into something? >> well, it's always possible. always conceivable. tim scott has a reservoir of good will out there if he turns in an extraordinary performance. a lot of donors will take a second look at him. ron desantis has a tough hill to climb. number one, there is no lane for an anti-trump, anti-maga

candidate. also, everything that used to be considered really bad news like being indicted, arraigned, booked, having your mugshot taken doesn't have that effect on donald trump. he's getting stronger the more evidence comes out against him. third, the evangelical vote appears to be quite solid, not even indicted for paying hush money to a porn star is shaking evangelical support. i think you're seeing -- if you squint, you can see possible openings for somebody like a ron desantis. i think you're seeing a microcosm of what is happening within the republican party which is still apparently prepared to buy this ticket, the trump ticket again in 2024. >> well, there's a new cbs national poll again -- i know national polls, that's not how people vote. it's instructive in that trump's lead over desantis has grown to 46 points, and this is what we

were touching on. more than 90% of republican primary voters want the other candidates to focus on making the case for themselves, not against trump. there have been a lot of analysts on this network that said, if you're not ready to take on trump head on, you don't have a chance of winning. that does not appear to be the case in the primary at least. >> no. but also, defending donald trump or rationalizing donald trump or repeating donald trump's talking points is also not a way to beat donald trump. >> differentiating. important point, yeah. >> none of the candidates have really cracked the code on all of this. wednesday will be their first major opportunity and maybe their last for some of those folks, to be able to do that, to be able to make a case perhaps on the' lebltability issue. none of those issues has gotten any traction whatsoever.

by the way, the cbs poll was the poll that found something like 71% of trump voters said that they assumed things they heard from donald trump were, that he was the honest candidate far more than said the same thing anti their own pastors or friends and family members or people from the conservative media. i'm sorry to repeat something that's been said so many times before. this looks like a cult rather than a political party. >> charlie sykes, thank you for coming on the program. up next, the aftermath of wildfires in washington state with an entire town evacuated. plus, 850 people now officially missing in connection with maui's devastating wildfires. the story of one family and a teenage boy who was among the missing. a teenage boy who was among the missing.

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at least one person is dead in the state of washington as wildfires rage there, already burning through 250,000 acres. more than 5,000 people have been evacuated from their homes, with the county sheriff in spokane saying he ran door to door personally telling people to flee. now major interstates are shut down as flames char houses, cars and trees. emergency national guard teams are also out in full force, conducting rescues via boat and

helicopter. today with the president in maui, 850 people are still missing after deadly fires there. so far the governor says about 85% of the burn area has been searched, and the number of people confirmed dead is 114. family and friends of one of the victims, kenyero fuentes held a ceremony for him over the weekend on what would have been his 15th birthday. they bought a birthday cake, handwritten signs and white balloons. >> that was actually his favorite beach. we would bring him here when he was just a baby. he started taking his first steps here. this is where he started walking. so this is why we did his celebration birthday today here. >> nbc's dana griffin joins me from hawaii. just one story out of far too many. i know there's been real frustration with the government response ahead of the president's visit. tell me more about what you've been hearing from the people who

were there. >> reporter: chris, it all started days after this disaster. people wanted more of a response. they wanted more aid actually being taken into lahaina through the road behind me that was closed for several days. that has now reopened. we're hearing from people who are actually very grateful for all of the help. i've spoken to people i interviewed two weeks ago, and last night they said we've been able to get into a hotel, gotten clothes, food. the initial $700 has been helpful. obviously people will need a lot more resources. people have had complaints, not feeling like there's enough being done here. they open that when the president visits, that that will provide more answers and reassurance that the lands will stay in the hands of the people of lahaina and they'll have more aid that will last for years to come. listen to what else people are concerned about. >> we need the government to

focus on mental health, ptsd, getting people housing, funding, and helping the families get back on their feet, restoring their dignity, letting them bury their family members. we haven't even had the first funeral yet and they're already talking about rebuilding lahaina. i just would encourage the president to come meet us, see us, see the pain, see the grief. feel it. embrace it. >> reporter: the president is still in the air heading from reno, nevada, to maui. he'll be on the island in less than four hours. he'll spend about four hours here meeting with survivors, first responders and government officials. we hope to get more answers and be able to ask questions about what we can expect on maui for years to come. that's the one thing people want to be reassured here, that they are not forgotten. chris. >> dana griffin, thank you. up next, donald trump and his 18 co-defendants facing a

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right now it's a waiting game outside a jail in fulton county, georgia, where many time

this week former president donald trump and his 18 co-defendants are due to turn themselves in as part of a sweeping racketeering and conspiracy case. all of them have just until noon friday to voluntarily surrender. so far none of them have. i want to bring in nbc's blayne alexander from atlanta. also with us, former federal prosecutor and msnbc legal analyst glenn kirschner. good to have both of you. glenn, that jail is open 24/7. have you gotten any more guidance on what we might be able to expect this week? >> reporter: we do know they're able to turn themselves in 24/7. if there are people that don't want to be seen by the news outlet and media cameras out there, they might choose a time closer to 2:00 in the morning than perhaps 2:00 in the afternoon. we're watching and we do know the talks are ongoing, in terms of what would surrender look like, how will the week play

out. just within the past hour or so, we saw attorneys for ken cheesebro, and those discussions for the defense attorneys for the 19 co-defendants are happening with the d.a.'s office. we don't know again what those conversations look like. we don't know what the guardrails around the surrender will be. we do know that all 19 are expected to turn themselves in at the fulton county jail. that's in accordance with the d.a. who has her input along with the judge who is also presiding over this. of course, chris, the question then will become what sort of expedited process will they see at this jail? it can take some 12 hours for somebody to get booked in, processed, bailed out. certainly safe to say that the former president will not see that sort of a wait inside. we're also asking those questions in terms of what will

i look like when they surrender later this week, chris. >> important unanswered questions. blayne, thank you for that. glenn, the "atlanta journal constitution" is reporting this, quote, lawyers for those charged will be meeting with d.a. fani willis and her staff this week to negotiate bond and other terms of surrender. that sounds pretty straightforward to me. what does that look like typically, and will it look like that here? >> usually it's a pretty basic proposition when somebody is booked, they're arrested, fingerprinted, they have their arrest photo taken. they're shortly thereafter presented to the court for arraignment which is giving them formal notice of the charges, giving them an opportunity to enter a plea, discussing conditions of release and setting a next court appearance for each defendant. it may be a consolidated court appearance where all 19 will appear together. some people ask, well, how does

a prosecutor go about trying -- that is conducting the trial for 1 19 /* 9 defendants. i had a case where we indicted more than 24 in a rico case. how did we take 13 people to trial? we had to break it up into three separate trials, six defendants in one trial, six defendants in the second trial and one rico defendant in that series of trial. we may see fani willis parcelling up the defendants and proposing a prompt trial for one batch of defendants with other trials to follow. that's one way to deal with a 19 co-defendant case. >> we also know, glenn, trump's former chief of staff mark meadows' legal team filed a motion trying to get the charges against him dismissed.

their argument is he was working for the federal government at the time, this was part of his job. can that work? >> it can work in theory. i don't think it will work here because i think mark meadows' attorneys will be hard-pressed to convince the federal judge who is hearing the removal motion that going down to states after elections are conducted and involving yourself in recounts and arguably, as the indictment sets out, committing a series of crimes as part of a conspiracy to overturn the results of a presidential election in a particular state, somehow that's all part of the official duties of a chief of staff? i don't think we've ever seen any other chief of staff to the president engage in that kind of conduct, and i don't think a judge will buy that that was part of mark meadows' official duties as chief of staff to the president of the united states. >> glenn kirschner, thanks so much, appreciate it. up next, a rare and unlikely

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the tennessee legislature will begin a rare special session on gun reform, a response to the covenant school shooting that killed three 9-year-old children and three adults in nashville. for the republican governor, billie, it's an urgent need. he wants other republicans in the legislature to temporarily block people from having guns if they are deemed dangerous. the mother of a boy whose son nearly died in the covenant school shooting is lobbying on a mission to change mind. "the washington post" reports she's a republican and a gun owner. melissa alexander has been telling lawmakers her son's story in gut-wrenching detail, how he stood silently against the wall feet away from the killer, hearing the shots rang out as they killed his classmates saying, quote, he saw his friends dead on the ground. i want to talk about today's special session with darrell a. carter, history professor and associate dean at east tennessee state university.

also with me, alencia johnson, senior adviser for president biden's 2020 campaign. thank you both for being here. darrell, you know tennessee very well. tell us about its gun culture and how big of a moment this is where a republican governor has called for a special session to consider changing changing gun ? >> good afternoon, chris. tennessee has a strong history of supporting second amendment rights. many tennesseans from the mountains of the eastern division all the way to memphis and everywhere in between have -- own guns, use guns, promoted guns, have handed them down from father to son, mother to daughter, grandparents to grandchildren for more than 200 years, and so in this state, there is a strong culture around guns that is very important in terms of trying to understand its politics and for this current legislative, special legislative session, it means

that there is real discussion taking place about should there be limits regarding gun rights in our state. >> we remember the emotion of the governor after the shooting. i believe it was two family friends who were shot there. but even allies of his acknowledge that compromise might be the only way forward, sentencing laws is something they're talking about, school safety plans, mental health care, along with some direct gun reform laws. is tennessee likely to do something here as you see it, and if so, could it be a road map for other states that maybe the lesson is baby steps? >> there are many tennesseans that are hopeful that some legislation could be passed. it is going to have a positive impact on the culture in a state that is going to create a safer state, particularly for children. but as it looks right now, chris, the legislature does not look like it's going to pass any major gun reform legislation that would limit access or to have so-called red flag laws put

into place. >> the cdc and i wanted to bring this up because of that heart wrenching story in the "washington post" about the mom who is a republican, who is a gun owner. gun related deaths among children in this country set a new record in 2021, 4,752 children are gone as a result. in tennessee, republicans are at least talking about doing something about it and president biden knows all too well what it is to lose a child. should he, could he be doing more here? >> i'm grateful that you brought up that statistic because gun violence is the number one killer for children in this country, and black children especially are six times more likely to die due to gun violence in this country. your question about president biden, if he could do more, i do think his administration can continue to talk about how

incredibly dangerous and urgent, actually, the situation is. it is a public health crisis. we are seeing gun violence on the rise all over the country. but i think president biden also knows, much like he knew when he was vice president, is that unfortunately the gop and conservative leadership, they are not able to get away from the gun lobby and very real comprehensive gun control measures that would keep our communities and our children safe. it's also very hypocritical that this is a party that talks about being pro life, the party about families, the party about life, the party about saving, quote unquote saving babies when it comes to certain topics. but when it comes to gun violence, they're nowhere to be found. they're very silent on the issue, and they like to silence other legislatures, the people,

the parents, the victims of this extreme gun violence. i hope in community groups like moms demand action, and everytown, it isn't just democratic support, also moderate republicans, also independents who are ready for our lawmakers to do something and get out of the pockets of the gun lobby and save our children. >> is that what is still happening here, the gun lobby, and we only have a minute left, but in tennessee, and it's very much like in the rest of the country, a vanderbilt university poll for may said 82% support governor lee's background checks executive order, 3/4 support a red flag law. it's hard to find 82% of people support anything, there's overwhelming support in the country. why is more not happening? >> well, i think, chris, the real issue is that we have such a strong presence of lobbying in the state of tennessee as it pertains to guns that it really prevents a lot of legislatures

from even considering any type of gun legislation because they are afraid that they will be primaried in their home districts across the state. and so when it comes to this issue, there's a disconnect here between what the public is saying, and state is saying, and what the members of the tennessee general assembly are saying. >> and in that way, tennessee is definitely a microcosm of the country. we're going to continue to talk about this. i would love to have you both back another time. daryl a. carter, alencia johnson, thank you both. amid wildfires, is fema running out of money? new reporting on what's being done to make sure americans have enough disaster relief. we'll be right back. back. pot d. so, no matter what, i'm running this kitchen. (vo) make the switch. it's your business. it's your verizon. age is just a number, and mine's unlisted. try boost® high protein with 20 grams of protein for muscle health versus 16 grams in ensure® high protein.

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we've got a lot more news to cover on this second hour of "chris jansing reports." extreme weather, wreaking widespread havoc, in southern california, the scope of the damage just beginning to settle in, after a historic storm named hilary turned roadways into rivers and triggered mud slides. what clean up looks like after that massive rainfall. and in just a few hours, president biden and the first lady will see up close the heart wrenching scene in maui, and come face-to-face with frustrated residents and excruciatingly slow rescue efforts after the deadliest wildfires in modern u.s. history ravaged the island. plus, washington n