we've got a lot more news to cover on this second hour of "chris jansing reports." extreme weather, wreaking widespread havoc, in southern california, the scope of the damage just beginning to settle in, after a historic storm named hilary turned roadways into rivers and triggered mud slides. what clean up looks like after that massive rainfall. and in just a few hours, president biden and the first lady will see up close the heart wrenching scene in maui, and come face-to-face with frustrated residents and excruciatingly slow rescue efforts after the deadliest wildfires in modern u.s. history ravaged the island. plus, washington now battling

flames of its own, three deadly fires scorching thousands of acres across the state and forcing thousands to evacuate. all of this playing out as fema, the agency responsible for disaster response says they're running out of cash, in a year that's setting records for billion dollar weather disaster. our nbc news reporters are following all of the latest developments and we begin in california, where officials say the risk of flooding and mud slides isn't over yet. nbc's priscilla thompson is live, what's it like where you are on the ground, priscilla? >> reporter: yeah, chris, this is the type of scene that some folks are waking up to. this is a road that has effectively, as you said, turned into a river. all of that water that came down had nowhere to go. there may be some debris. a worker told us that is blocking where it should be flowing under this road, and so you see it flowing across the road, and it has been going like this all morning since we've

been here over the past several hours, and we know how quickly that water came down in this area. we're talking about .9 inches in palm springs and just one hour. it did not take long for many of these roads to flood, and this area got about half of its yearly total in a matter of hours. so you can imagine what that was like. we saw roads flooded, cars that were getting stuck. we know that there were several swift water rescues that took place, and these are some of the scenes that we're seeing across california. we saw those mud slides, which is something that officials were concerned about in the mountainous areas. officials are trying to assess that damage and what it will mean for getting roads back open, and something else really critical that happened in this area and several other surrounding cities is that 911 was knocked out overnight, so

folks were not able to call 911 and get to first responders. we were told they could text or given the full phone number to call. officials in palm springs have fixed that issue so people call 911 right now, they will be re-routed to a call center. but certainly a lot of questions, especially considering how prepared the state and cities were trying to be about what exactly happened there. and i should point out, you know, when we talk about safety, there are barricades up blocking this road, but we just saw a truck barrel right through those barricades and drive right through this, and that is something that officials are concerned about. in palm springs, they are asking folks, if you can, please stay home so that officials can get out, assess this damage and begin to try to get some of these roads reopened so folks can get to work and can continue on with their lives. chris. >> priscilla thompson, thank you for that. let's go to maui now where president biden will be touring the wildfire damage later today. nbc's steve patterson is there. steve, what waits for the president when he gets there.

>> reporter: chris, one of the worst disasters in american history awaits the president, certainly one of the worst disaster in his presidency. there's no doubt about that. this will not be easy. people here are hurting. they are tired, they are worried about the future, and in many cases, they are still awaiting answers. still the families of 850 people maybe more that don't know where their loved one is. this search has been gruelingly slow, agonizingly so, and that's for a good reason. it's because the remains here are so delicate. the sanctity of the scene which stretches for miles has to be taken care of and sifted through hand by hand so the cadaver dogs can get in. the president will land, meet with officials, give an address, talk about the situation on the ground, the aid that has been rendered by the federal government, and he will tour some of this devastation,

alongside, and in the background meeting with families of lost loved ones, meeting with survivors who have their own incredible stories to tell and just really taking it all in. he's coming in under a cloud of criticism. there's no doubt about it. people here are upset at local leadership, they're upset at state leadership, and to a certain degree, they are upset with federal leadership. we know the president enacted rather quickly federal aid to this area, but it's the optics, i think, that people have been concerned about. the president didn't say more in the few days after the fire. that will come under scrutiny. there's no doubt. there could well be protests here throughout maui, and especially here in the surrounding areas of lahaina. but still, i think, people are hardened to see the president and i think they're seeing him as a symbol of federal aid that is now flowing into this area. it will be a challenging day. there's no doubt about that. chris. >> steve patterson, thank you for that. let's go to washington state now where wildfires have been raging

and forcing evacuations. nbc's jesse kirsch has the latest. jesse, what's happening. >> reporter: this is incident command for the gray fire of the three fires burning outside of spokane, washington, official says this fire has destroyed the largest number of structures and has threatened the largest number of residents here in eastern washington state. hundreds of firefighters have been working around the clock to battle this blaze, which has so far not been put under control. in spokane county, alone, there are reports of 25,000 acres burning. thousands of people have been ordered to evacuate, including the city of medical lake, where roughly 5,000 people were ordered to evacuate. and we know that there have been dozens of structures, including homes which have been burned down in these fires so far. the air quality has been a concern here, and across much of washington state.

because of the wildfires in washington as well as wildfires in canada. all of this unfolding as we have learned from officials that there's one confirmed death, someone who was found in the gray fire zone, another person confirmed to have been found dead in the oregon road fire zone. however, at this point, officials have not confirmed whether or not those deaths have been caused by the fires. so we'll be watching for an update there amid this devastation, as firefighters, again, continue working to battle these blazes. back to you. >> jesse kirsch, thank you for that. those wildfires along with recent storms have been putting a real strain on fema's dwindling disaster fun. nbc's julia ainsley is here with that. look, hurricane season hasn't even started yet. how bad is it, and what happens with funding? >> that's right, chris, you can look at my colleagues there on the ground, just to see how bad these weather related events have already become, even before we get into hurricane season, whether that be through flooding, wildfires, the

devastating tornadoes we saw earlier this year, the national atmospheric and oceanic administration says there have been more than 15 events already this year that have totalled over $1 billion in damages. and now fema is saying they need more money or they're going to have to start prioritizing and putting ahead life saving operations over recovery operations. so some places that are devastated like maui, those recovery operations could be pushed into the next year if they don't get more funding. fema administrate deanne criswell spoke about this and the urgent need for more funding over the weekend. here's what she had to say. >> we do anticipate we'll have a shortage of funding at our current spending levels by mid september, and so what we will do is we will continue to push. we will push projects, recovery projects into the next fiscal year, so we always have enough money to support any of the immediate life saving needs. >> and chris, she says that that bill is to the tune of

$12 billion. that's how much more money fema needs from congress in mid september if they're going to be able to get through hurricane season and continue not only with their life savings efforts but also recovery, which is so important in some of the devastated areas we're covering today. >> julia ainsley, thank you. still to come, how the state of california is handling the response to this storm, that in 60 seconds. storm, that in 60 seconds let innovation refunds help with your erc tax refund so you can improve your business however you see fit. rosie used part of her refund to build an outdoor patio. clink! dr. marshall used part of his refund to give his practice a facelift. emily used part of her refund to buy... i run a wax museum. let innovation refunds help you get started on your erc tax refund. stop waiting. go to innovationrefunds.com you really got the brows.

well, the storm is gone but the images of hilary's after math will stay with california residents and emergency officials for a very long time. as a warning of what's possible in this new era of extreme weather, take a look at this video out of los angeles, a car getting swept away by flood waters, then being pulled out of the river canal earlier today. the city saw more rain on sunday than ever before, breaking a one-day record that had stood

for nearly 50 years. brian ferguson is deputy director of the california governor's office of emergency services. it's good to see you, brian. look, your office was prepared for this. the governor declared a state of emergency late on saturday. you had national guard pre-positioned so what's your sense, how bad did it get and how are you doing with the recovery? >> yeah, this was definitely a complex event that we were largely prepared for. we were able to look at the science early, take early proactive steps to put first responders in place, evacuate people in key areas that were going to be impacted. we are not out of the woods yet, but so far so good, and you know, it's just another example of the climate driven disaster that we face of we have wildfires burning in the north, we have a hurricane in the south. it's certainly a challenge, but so far, the preparations that we've made under the governor and his leadership has paid off.

>> i know your state is well versed in dealing with things like wildfires. not so much hurricanes or tropical storms or even i might argue an earthquake in the middle of a tropical storm. what's the level of concern from the experts you guys are talking to that this really is just the beginning and you're going to see a lot more of this, and is it too early to say what you're learning to preparing for the next one? >> the thing about these disaster is we want to get a little bit better every time we face one. we want to learn and evolve our thinking. certainly, highly unusual to have a tropical storm of this magnitude in california. it's been close to 80 years since we have been experienced anything like this. but the reality is these type of disaster are more frequent and more severe, and they often fall hardest on the most vulnerable members of our community, and so as we kind of step back from this disaster and look at what we've learned, we want to understand what steps can we

take in the future, whether it is a hurricane, whether it is an earthquake or even the next wildfire so we can get a little bit better. we've had a lot of experience in recent years with different disaster, but we want to continue to evolve our thinking, not just for us but colleagues around the country. we're often america's coming attraction, and sometimes that manifests in the form of disaster as well, and so we really want to grow from this so we can be better and ultimately keep as many folks safe as possible, and then present a leadership view for the rest of the country on how to do this the right way. >> finally, i think a lot of people couldn't believe t certainly there that, an earthquake hit at the same time that hillary was dumping record amount of rain. fortunately, there doesn't seem to be any serious injuries or anything like that. but hurricanes and obviously earthquakes are scary in and of themselves. could you believe that they were happening together, and this isn't just bad timing?

>> it's certainly a matter of timing. no matter where you live in california, you do live in earthquake country, and the idea of complex overlapping disaster happening is something that we've grown accustomed to. we don't like it. we're trying to help all californians understand the role that they play. government really can lean in, take early proactive steps like we talked about. so much of the response actually happens at the neighborhood level, and we want people no matter where they live, not just in california, but across the country to understand that by taking a few basic steps, they can keep themselves, their families safe, things like signing up for alerts, and making a family emergency plan that doesn't make a difference whether you're in los angeles, maui, florida, these same steps can help keep yourself and your loved ones safe during a time of crisis. >> brian ferguson, when i lived in l.a., that was one of the first things my bosses made me do, and there is a sense of security having the right stuff

and knowing you're going to do. thank you, great to have you on the program. good luck going forward. i know you have a lot of work ahead. the one-two gut punches of natural disaster, what we're seeing california, and president biden heads to hawaii, as well as the administration as a whole has come under heavy criticism. after the president addressed the wildfires back on august 10th, it was another five days before he ever mentioned them again, despite being asked about the fires there's twice while vacationing in delaware. he refused to comment both times. on the ground in hawaii, frustration over what's been described as a painstakingly slow response and recovery has evolved into anger at the situation, the system and even the president himself. >> for us we don't need you. don't come here because when you come here, they shut down the

roads, things get more chaotic, and we don't need you. >> i want to bring in douglas brinkley, presidential historian and history professor at rice university who wrote the book, "the great deluge" about hurricane katrina and the government's handling in its aftermath. great to have you on the program. the lack of a verbal response from a man known for his empathy, with 120 hours between comments is a big head scratcher for a lot of people. what's your take on what we have been seeing out of the administration since what happened in maui? >> that president joe biden has fallen very short on handling this emergency. for some reason, he has wanted to distance himself from this. in research and rescue operations you have a 72-hour window to get to people. this many days later, we have hundreds of people buried under

rubble, there can't be enough cadaver dogs in maui right now. this has to be elevated as a major moment. you know, we're going to be known as the summer of climate change. everybody's noticing the increasing heat. what's happening in california, washington state, and biden seems to be playing games with it, not calling it a climate emergency, saying i practically did, but i didn't, gave no moving oratory and coming in to hawaii now as a bit of a johnny come lately. fema needs to be reenergized. we need a war commander in chief voice coming out of the maui wildfires because it really is just part of a battle on climate change, and we need somebody to have more ardent and marshal language than simply drifting from delaware and lake tahoe, and now stopping in hawaii. >> after katrina, you know this well, president bush infamously

praised the fema director, saying browny, you're doing a heck of a job. i wonder if a president can come back from what's perceived as a tone deaf response. the people of hawaii, the residents' anger, but also for millions of americans, hawaii is an aspirational state, right, it's a place where you dream to go on your honeymoon, hope to visit for a landmark birthday, and what americans are seeing doesn't comport with that dream. >> beautifully said, chris. hawaii is the american dream. there's that old joanie mitchell song as paradise is paved with a parking lot. we are in a climate emergency around the world, all the scientists know it, so at every moment now, we have to elevate the public discussion of how do we mitigate climate disaster? how do we move assets in a different way.

how do we increase putting out wildfires, how can we deal with roads that weren't built for excessive flooding. fdr had the new deal, the dust bowl, the soil conservation service, we need out of the white house, leadership, because unfortunately what's happening in maui is one of many events. in the meantime, it's about those lives. a president of the united states has to account for every life. he needs to be getting more and more people looking for the missing. i'm afraid it's too late because that 72-hour window disappeared. people who were on insulin or needed electricity for their asthma or nebulizers. people can't survive this many days later without a full bore, even using the u.s. military to come in and help with the situation would have been preferable to this drip drip

drip approach. >> douglas brinkley, i have a feeling that unfortunately you and i will be speaking again under circumstances like this, and i very much appreciate you coming on the program, doug, thank you. >> thank you, chris. coming up, iowa voters sounding off on trump's legal troubles as a brand new nbc des moines register poll shows the former president way ahead of the pack. the ron desantis interview that set off quite the storm with trump supporters. so you could be the most conservative person since sliced bread unless you're kissing his rear end, they will somehow call you a rhino. a rhino. as $300? really? and your clothes just keep getting more damaged the more times you wash them. downy protects fibers, doing more than detergent alone. see? this one looks brand new. saves me money? i'm starting to like downy. downy saves loads. businesses need 5g solutions today. that's why they choose t-mobile for business. mlb partners with t-mobile to not only enhance the fan experience, but to advance how the game is played.

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after four indictments, a new poll shows donald trump isn't just the front runner in iowa. he's crushing the rest of the field. that nbc news des moines register poll shows him up by 23 point over ron desantis in the iowa caucus state. another striking number from that poll, 2/3 of voters don't believe he even committed a serious crime as he faces a combined 91 criminal counts. vaughn hillyard joins us from des moines, indiana, brendan bucker is a former aide to house speaker paul ryan and john boehner and an msnbc political analyst. vaughn, you sat down with four of the iowa voters who actually participated in this poll. i'm so interested to hear what they had to tell you. what's your big take away? >> reporter: the big take away is among the four that we talked

to actually participated in the new poll. two are ardent trump supporters. one woman, deb, who you'll see, deb suggesting, though, that if something were to happen to donald trump, that she would trump to vivek ramaswamy. the other two were in the anti-trump, they will not vote for trump in a general election in 2024, and yet when the question came who's under consideration, that's exactly what our poll found, there are still a number of trump alternatives who are under consideration by iowa republicans who don't want the former president to be president again. they said that they were considering ron desantis and saying that they were considering tim scott. liz cheney got a shoutout. chris christie was still very much here in the mix, and so this is a, you know, divided republican party, yet one, right now, the polling would suggest is not evenly divided but instead, a greater share of it is very much in donald trump's camp. i want to let you hear when i ask these folks, whether anybody

besides donald trump had a shot in this, take a listen. >> do any of you think that somebody not named donald trump has a chance to win the iowa caucus this next year? >> yes, i do. >> why? >> personally, i think that a lot of people that are in my shoes that want someone other than donald trump aren't as vocal as the donald trump supporters, and so i think when it comes time to go in there and actually, i think then we'll see what really is going on. >> it's a possibility that remains, but it seems to be diminishing. >> i think he has an excellent chance of winning in the general election. i think there will be a lot of support. i'm around a lot of people that are trump supporters. >> why do you think he has held on to such a seemingly tight grip among the republican electorate? >> i think there's still so much anger at the process in the

sense of what has happened in the political arena, and i think he draws on that. >> reporter: now, as you heard from bob and deb there, the two ardent trump supporters, they make it clear and are reflective of the reality in iowa of our polling, that 2/3 of iowa republicans still view donald trump favorably. 2/3 of iowa republicans also do not believe that donald trump committed serious crimes, and so you have a very sympathetic, still republican base of support here in iowa but the polling on the other hand continues to show, though, that there is an openness to a trump alternative right now though. all of these other candidates are diluting the vote. the question going into the debate is potentially can one of these candidates separate themselves from the rest of the

pack and make a true case to those polling in the single digits that they should be the standard bearer and come january 15th in the iowa caucus, allow this to be a true one-on-one match up and allow iowa republicans do determine if donald trump is the future of the party or someone else. >> i wonder what the chances are of that happening. i listen to the first voters and i wonder the best hope other candidates have is the polar opposite in 2016, instead of people too afraid to say they were voting for trump, maybe now they're too afraid to say they're not. what do you read into what you have heard and what you have seen in our poll? >> yeah, i thought that was a really instructive breakdown of where we are. this is kind of a choose your own adventure poll. you can look at this and say donald trump is trouncing the field. no one has ever lost with a lead that big in the iowa caucuses or you can say nearly 60% of people are not saying they want to vote for donald trump right now, and that's a very significant

number. you typically like to hold an incumbent under 50%, in this case, donald trump is effectively the incumbent. there's an opportunity there. you're looking closely, you see a path where someone, and i don't say someones, but someone could take him on. vaughn is absolutely right. you have to figure out who that is, and it's a bit of an issue to say, i gave it my best, i'm willing to drop out. we go into iowa, and there's four or five other people still there, donald trump is going to run away with it, just like we saw in 2016. >> we see that trump's nearest rival still is ron desantis, but he faced some backlash after this comment. >> we have a strand in our party that views supporting trump as whether you are a rhino or not. you could be the most conservative person since sliced bread, unless you're kicking his rear end, they will call you a rhino. if we're listless vessels that

are supposed to follow whatever happens down the pike on truth social, that's not a durable movement. >> during the 2016 campaign, we saw the impact of hillary clinton's basket of deplorable, is that remark going to come back to haunt desantis? will trump make sure it comes back to haunt desantis or is it one more thing in a long list of campaign problems? >> you have seen the trump campaign jump all over this. i think they clearly see this as a gaffe, maybe it's a little unfair to ron desantis. this is again showing he is very new to this, being under that spotlight, and maybe i'll give him a little credit towards inching towards criticizing donald trump. this shows again his struggle as a candidate, instead of attacking his opponent, he attacks voters. you don't attack voters themselves, you attack other politicians, and he failed to do that. i'm sure donald trump will not let him forget that, and they're using that effectively to their

advantage. >> let me go back to the idea of if someone is going to challenge him, it needs to be a person, right, and trump says his large polling lead is the reason he won't show up at wednesday's debate or maybe any of them. but his former vp still wants him there. take a listen. >> well, you know, i served alongside the president for a long time, and one thing i realize about him is it's not over until it's over. i'm actually still hoping he shows up. >> would that help at all any of these other people, number one, do you think there's any chance he shows up at saying he's not going to show up. and if people don't make the debate stage, should it be as chris sununu is suggesting, get up, move on, let's call this field now? >> certainly people that don't make the debate stage, but even people after the debate polling in the low single digits need to get out.

we have no idea what donald trump is going to do. i would be surprised if he showed up. it's absolutely the right political decision for him not to. those people on the debate stage need him a lot more than he needs them. if he can starve them of attention, we know he's going to be doing counter programming. those people would love to have him show up. more people will hear what he has to say. the right move for him politically, it's not without risk. there's a chance that a lot of these candidates say, look, he doesn't respect you, and really one of their goals should be to egg him on, to get on that debate stage at some point so that they can draw him closer to him. whether they will be willing to do that, they haven't been willing to criticize him yet. can they egg him on to the next debate stage next month? >> do you see in the end one person emerging, and if so, how quickly to challenge donald trump? >> yeah, i do think that there isn't going to be a strong pressure on people to get out,

in a way this we haven't usually seen. we saw it happen in 2016, we know what happens if there are four or five people left. i do think it will probably come down to a pretty narrow field by the time we get to iowa and new hampshire. it's hard for some of these people who organize, put together all of this time, and raise all of this money, and just before you get to people voting to drop out, it's not an easy decision for them to make. i think there's going to be intense pressure to get out, and a trend with debates coming up. if somebody does assert themselves, somebody does have a moment to become a clear alternative. i think that pressure will grow louder. i think every one of those people not named donald trump does not think he should be the nominee, and hopefully they'll do what's best to guide the outcome in that direction. >> brendan buck, thank you so much. breaking news from the fulton county courthouse in georgia, trump's legal team has just showed up ahead of a deadline for the former president to surrender. why trump's ex-chief of staff mark meadows says he's

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we are following the breaking news out of georgia, where just moments ago, donald trump's legal team seen here entering the fulton county courthouse ahead of a friday noon deadline for the former president to turn himself in after a sweeping fourth indictment from d.a. fani

willis. i want to bring in nbc's blayne alexander outside the courthouse, trial attorney katie phang, host of msnbc's "the katie phang show", and former district attorney, rya gray house who worked with fani willis for many years. blayne, what's happening where you are. >> reporter: what we're seeing right now, chris is essentially a flurry of activity. just a few minutes after you saw those legal representatives for trump enter the building, we saw kind of walking from the corner behind me and into the courthouse, we saw attorneys for ken chesebro also entering the building. they say that they are here to negotiate the terms of surrender. there is movement. it means while we haven't seen any of the 19 defendants surrender of the fulton county jail, we know the terms under which they will surrender are actively being discussed.

apply producer was at the d.a.'s office and saw the trump legal team being walked back in there about 15 or so minutes ago. we understand they are obviously meeting with members of d.a. fanny willis team to decide what the terms of surrender will look like. will there be a mug shot, finger prints, will he go to the jail. that's certainly the conversations happening in the courthouse behind me. >> i know you have been in meetings like this with lawyers before, what's happening behind closed doors, and how much of a negotiation is it really? >> you're exactly right. it's a negotiation. they are coming out to say, based on the indictment, i understand the time line where you want mr. trump to turn himself in. okay. we turn ourselves in and this is what we would like as far as stipulations. i would expect they will say, give us a reasonable bond

amount, so that it will be a quick process as far as in and out. they probably are saying, hey, let's set a time where it's not going to be a circus outside. we don't want the hoopla, perhaps even discussing no mug shot, no finger prints and so forth, but as you said earlier, sheriff has said, mr. trump, he's not going to get special treatment, so i think that that's going to be a tough sell, but ultimately, you are correct that they are there to outline the conditions that are going to be set forth for him to turn himself in and eventually be released. >> who ultimately would make that decision? does the sheriff make it alone? >> well, as far as the bond conditions and so forth, i fully expect judge mcafee's office to be involved with that. so typically of course the d.a. can say, this is what we would like, this is what we would propose, but it's ultimately up to the judge to decide that, and then as far as your question regarding the process in the jail, that is up to the discretion of the sheriff unless

the judge orders him otherwise. >> i want to ask you, just moments ago, i understand a judge ordered $100,000 bond for trump ally john eastman. as far as we have reported, he hasn't turned himself in yet. so tell me what we know and does that bond negotiation go before he actually gets to the jail? >> yeah, so what was entered not only in john eastman's case, but also one of the other codefendants scott hall is something called a consent bond order. what does that mean? that means the amount of the bond, as well as the bond conditions have been negotiated with the d.a.'s office, agreed upon with defense counsel, and have been ratified, meaning approved by the judge in this case, judge scott mcafee. so it basically streamlines things, chris. these men still have to show up. they still have to surrender. they have to be finger printed. they need to be a part of the process. however, it streamlines the amount of time they would have to go through the process, and

it eliminates the need for them to go through a first appearance. they don't have to go before the magistrate judge to make the determination of the bond amount and the conditions of the bond. we're going to watch closely to see what happens with the remaining codefendants, including former president donald trump. >> i'm wondering, kate, and if that agreement has been made for $100,000 bond, does that necessarily mean he's likely to turn himself in quickly or that friday at 5:00 is still a possibility. >> so let's be clear, the deadline is friday at noon for all of the defendants, so that is exactly when the surrender time line expires. you'll notice something if you look at the consent bond orders online, for scott wall, his bond was much lower, so we reasonably anticipate that donald trump will be looking at an increased bond amount that's going to be negotiated for that count.

they have different bond amounts. there's something called standard bond amounts for each of these charges, but there is some negotiations into that process that is entered into with the d.a. and the defense attorneys in this case. >> but isn't a bond riot essentially to keep people from fleeing and the argument that has been made is donald trump is one of the most recognizable people on the face of the earth. he's not going injure. he said he didn't do anything. is it possible there won't be any bond at all? >> of course it's possible, but i think it's highly unlikely. and i think they are going to have a much higher amount because of the nature of his position. but you're absolutely right. you're absolutely correct, that this is to ensure his presence at trial or any of the other proceedings. i do anticipate that he will get a bond in some amount. >> so what should we be watching for when we, for example, would you expect that anybody inside, in other words, the sheriff's office or anyone else would say

an agreement has been made that this particular defendant is going to come in at this time, or would that be left up to the defendant themselves and their legal team? >> that's typically something that you're going to see, and possibly even as part of the strategy that's going to come from the defendant's legal team. some may wait for the last minute, to the 12th hour, and some may say, all right, we have a bond, let's go ahead and get this thing over with. it comes down to each individual's preference, however, i'm pretty much certain that all of them are going to say, we have to get this done before the deadline, especially if there are agreements that resulted in a consent bond. >> thank you both, with all of this breaking news, we really appreciate it. and coming up, damage in moscow, how a ukrainian drone wreaked havoc, disrupting dozens of flights. plus, a russian robotic spacecraft crashing into the moon. the latest setback for russia's space program. you're watching "chris jansing

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♪♪ good to be with you, i'm katy tur. stuff is happening at the fulton county courthouse, donald trump's lawyers are there, our cameras caught them. what exactly were they doing inside? making arrangements perhaps, about when donald trump will turn himself in or on what conditions. also news about some of the other indicted coconspirators. john eastman has agreed to bond terms, what are the details. we also have confirmation of the memos kenneth chesebro sent advising then president trump on how to select alternate electors. what did he tell donald trump to do, and a new court filing from mark meadows trying to dismiss his charges. what immunity argument is he trying to use. joining me now is nbc news correspondent, blayne alexander who's going to join us in just a second. first we want to go to garrett haake who's with us as well. garrett, thanks for being here. we saw donald trump's lawyers