and right now on "andrea mitchell reports" donald trump getting ready to surrender to the fulton county jail on thursday, as the georgia judge lays down the law, ordering mr. trump not to post or repost threats, warnings or other interference with witnesses or the judicial process. today, john eastman, the alleged legal mastermind of the january 6th plot, turned himself in and was booked, as well as another trump co-defendant scott hall, a local bail bondsman linked to the voter data breach. this hour, our nbc news des moines register poll revealing the major impact the former president's claim that he won the 2020 election is having on likely iowa republican caucus goers. and the first republican debate stage is set with eight trump challengers qualifying for the fox event in milwaukee. who will seize the spotlight? mr. trump tries to counter program in pretaped interview

with fired fox tv host tucker carlson. good day, everyone. i'm andrea mitchell in washington. the countdown is on. donald trump, after announcing on social media, he will surrender to the fulton county jail on thursday to be booked on charges including conspiracy and felony racketeering over alleged efforts to overturn georgia's 2020 election results. and there's breaking news now, this hour, in atlanta where john eastman, the legal mastermind of a plan to get vice president mike pence to stop the election count on january 6th, has it turned himself in at the jail to be booked. nbc news has confirmed another co-defendant scott hall, a bail bondsman charged in the coffee county, georgia, data breach was booked in jail with a bond set at $10,000. joining me blayne alexander in

atlanta, justice and intelligence correspondent ken dilanian, former u.s. attorney barbara mcquade and former dekalb county district attorney gwen fleming. take us through what we can expect over the next few days and what did john eastman say when he came out after having been booked? >> andrea, what we can expect over the next few days are days like this one. the flurry of activity at the fulton county jail with co-defendants coming in, turning themselves in, being booked and leaving the jail and also, likely a flurry of activity from here at the courthouse from their legal represent it tivgs, from their attorneys coming in and meetings with members of the d.a.'s it team to negotiate the terms of surrender. we're seeing a one and two from the courthouse and the jail and that shows us what we can expect in terms of the frequency and the quickness with which people will turn themselves in. let's get to john eastman. he just left the fulton county jail within the last 20 minutes or so.

my colleague ali vitali was there when he walked out and she asked him a number of questions. one of the things, if he believes that election was stolen. he said absolutely to her. he read from a rather lengthy statement that his attorneys had put out earlier in the day as he was going to surrender. i'll share a little bit of that with you. basically, he said, i've come to surrender to an indictment that never should have been brought in the first place. he vows that he and his legal team will vigorously contest every count of the indictment i'm named and every count in which others are named as well. just a snippet of the statement and really the posture that we're hearing from john eastman. all of that comes, andrea, as he is the second person we know that has surrendered in fulton county today. the other person was scott hall. he was a bail bondsman involved in the coffee county plot. it comes as we're seeing more content bond agreements being signed here at the courthouse,

made public, and really, that kind of shows that more surrenders are imminent and the terms have been negotiated and now we just have to wait for them to show up at the jail. andrea? >> and barbara mcquade, focus on john eastman. he's a central figure in the january 6th committee hearings and an unindicted co-conspirator in jack smith's d.c. case. where do you think he stands? could he potentially cooperate, lessen the severity of the charges he's facing? >> well, today's statement makes him sound quite defiant but cooperators are often defiant before they change their minds and cooperate. he could be a valuable cooperator but i don't know that they need him. the fact that he indicted him suggests they have the evidence they need to prove the case against all 19 defendants. nonetheless statistics tell us 90 to 95% of defendants enter guilty pleas and prosecutors would love to have the assistance of someone on the inside to serve as narrater to bring it all it together and

just have less of a burden of having to try 19 defendants, having to try only a handful would make their jobs easier. >> ken, let's turn to donald trump. you were digging into the bond order in georgia. this was very specific warnings, different from the others, he had double the bond, $200,000. how do they actually enforce that? how does a judge enforce that? >> that's the big question, andrea. the thorny question for the judge in georgia and all the other judges presiding over four criminal cases against donald trump. in the georgia bond order we saw the most specific language to date, admonishing donald trump he cannot threaten or try to intimidate witnesses, co-defendants, victims or the community writ large, and specifically, he can't do that via social media or including the reposting the posts of others on social media. we didn't see that language as you said in any of the other

georgia bond orders. we didn't see it in any of the federal cases. some of the judges the those cases verbally conveyed that warning. but this really does appear to put some pretty strict restrictions and really delineates where the line is. trump can criticize the prosecutor, can criticize the judge and say nasty things about other people but to the extent any of those statements border into threatening language or language that could be perceived as threats, the judge has the right to summon him down to atlanta and potentially revoke his bond. the leverage is, the leverage is, throw him in jail. that's a really difficult thing when you have a person running for president who has a first amendment right to speak and most political experts believe the judge would be reluctant to do that and trump may celebrate and proclaim himself a first amendment martyr. so it's going to -- i think we're going to see a game of chicken and the judges are going to be really kind of hard

pressed to decide exactly how to handle this. >> as a former dekalb county d.a., how much pressure is the judge under? he only recently became a superior court this year and worked in the system as a prosecutor in the state and federal level? this is a huge amount of pressure. >> i do think this is quite a case to continue to get your judicial sea legs about you, if you will. he's been on the bench since january. but i think what you've already seen is his desire to help expedite things in agreeing to the terms that prosecutors and defense teams have brought forth with respect to bond. he's an experienced prosecutor. presumably he sees great judges in terms of how any manage their courtrooms and dockets and others that have been challenged in that area. those are lessons to be learned in terms of what not to do.

and again, remember, he also served as the inspector general in the state where his job was to root out fraud, waste and abuse, and i think those investigative skills may help him on the bench, ask both sides questions, probing into what the really salient issues are and what are things that really are not meant to move the case forward. >> barbara mcquade, talk about fani willis, jack smith, and alvin bragg, do they need to meet to discuss the timing issue? how does this work? do they have a conference call? are they going on different paths here? >> they might at some point, but ultimately the decision is up to the judges presiding over these cases. i imagine that with regard to the georgia case and with regard to jack smith's case, we don't have a firm trial date yet and they may look to alvin bragg as

the first trial set for march, the first case to be filed, and so he's probably got a lot on that unless some event should cause a delay in his case. trial dates are made to be changed. often times it is dynamics that occur during the litigation process that delay trial dates, so i do think it would be important for fani willis and jack smith to be talking, not so much about trial dates, but also about cooperate tors and how they want to handle the cases strategically so they don't end up stepping on each other. >> we have notes, blayne, you and your colleagues have sent around, questioning john eastman when he came out, our colleague there, and he read a statement and then, as you can see from the tape, he resisted efforts by his attorneys not to let him talk, and he said he was asked whether the election was stolen, and he told ali, absolutely no question. no question in my mind. she said, she also asked who was

paying his legal fees, he said he was as well as claimed immunity from prosecution and said no comment and asked if he thought others maybe mark meadows had grounds for such attempts, and he also no commented. she said the processing was quick. little over 90 minutes. declined to say whether he was fingerprinted and if a mugshot was taken but his attorney said everything was a normal georgian process. when they get booked. that would mean, likely, blayne, there was a mugshot. >> reporter: yes. you can certainly -- one could certainly suspect that, and that's something that they said all along was on the table. a couple things were notable. one, his processing about 90 minutes. that is fast by fulton county standards when it comes to getting in, booked through and out of the fulton county jail. some people can it typically wait 12 hours for the same process. as we watched these consent bond

agreements come in, a flurry posted publicly on the docket, we know that the heavy work is done, agreements have been reached, so that would ostensibly kind of expedite the process and expedite the amount of time they are there. this gives us a glimpse. >> what we're going to see over the coming days. we've seen in the past hour or so two more consent bond agreements become public, one from david shaffer, the other shawn still, and also that means we're going to be watching to see if they it turn themselves in imminently along with others who have already had their it terms worked out. >> and in looking at the written statement that was issued by john eastman before he -- upon his surrender as barbara mcquade said, a very big risk, very aggressive statement, so certainly doesn't seem as though he's likely to become the first one to cave in, but we don't know.

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done. not get it done somebody else's way. >> the president announced millions of dollars in relief including $700 payments to every family impacted for immediate needs. many people say that's just not enough. >> $700 per person is not enough. the cost of living in hawaii is so high. >> you're sending how many billions of dollars to ukraine. yeah. what about us? >> and dana griffin is there in maui. how is the search process going and the reaction to the president's visit? >> so right now there's about 15% of the burn area, andrea, they still have to get through. we're told from fema that's going to take weeks because there are so many multistructure buildings that are compromised. they have to delayer them layer by layer and continue the search and it's likely to take weeks. unfortunately the fire burned so hot, according to the governor,

he estimates up to 2,000 degrees that unfortunately some of these victims may never be found. during the president's visit he got to see the devastation from marine one and also on the ground and pointed to a symbol which is now amidst the ash in the thriving town, listen to what he said. >> to my left is the banyan tree beloved by this community for over 150 years. here in the former capital kingdom of hawaii stood for generations as a sacred spot of exceptional significance. today it's burned, but it's still standing. the tree survived for a reason. >> reporter: so we're told that he is hoping to instill a sense of confidence for the people here on maui who are still in need of aid, not just for the next couple weeks, but for several years to come. we are told that the president

is going to provide aid for several years and wants lahaina to return back to its glory and make sure the people of lahaina have input, which is something they have been asking for when it comes to rebuilding. andrea? >> dana griffin, thank you for being there. emergency response teams are working along the west coast to clear the damage left by tropical storm hilary. a los angeles hospital was evacuated after it lost power, and its backup generator. first responders had to equackvate critical care patients at the white memorial hospital including some on ventilators. some firefighters had to carry some patients down flights of stairs. the cause of that power outage is not clear. jake ward is in cathedral city, california, impacted by hilary. what are you seeing there? >> reporter: well, what we are seeing is a tremendous amount of mud. the coachella valley, which this

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there was only minutes, i thought, not even 15 minutes, when the floods came inside, yeah. it was already there. so it lasted for minutes, i thought, we die. >> reporter: for anyone here, it's a jarring thing to go from the dry desert condition you move here for to being on the business end of millions of gallons of water and eventually mud coming toward you. fortunately, no one, no here and in the rest of california, seems to have been killed by the record floodwaters. so for all the devastation you see around me, it's been a pretty lucky feeling so far here. >> yeah. i guess lucky at least human life is protected but the devastation has been amazing. the mud, the floods. thank you so much, jake. and wildfires, smoke from multiple wildfires could create unhealthy breathing conditions across washington state today. firefighters say they're starting to get a handle on the

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new polling data from nbc news and the des moines register showing a majority of iowa republican caucus goers still believe donald trump's claims he won the 2020 election. 51% say that they believe trump's claims of victory, despite no evidence to support those claims. 41% do not believe the claim, 8% are not sure. the poll includes both republican and independent voters who say they are likely to take part in the caucus. joining me now, nbc news senior political editor mark murray. "usa today" washington bureau chief susan paige. welcome both. mark, walk us through the new data from iowa. these are made up of caucus goers who believe that donald trump really won the presidency in. >> yeah. i think there are two ways to look at the numbers. on the one hand the 51%, you might say i've seen polls that

show two-thirds or three quarters believing donald trump's false claims about the election, so 51% might seem a little small. the way we asked this question was straight up, not is joe biden the legitimate president or did something go wrong in the 2020 election, do you believe straight up donald trump's claims that he ended up winning in 2020. 51% said yes. but the reason that this actually might seem bigger and more substantial than even that 51% is that it makes up more than 6 in 10 evangelicals, republican, self-identified republicans, the key members of the republican base, are more likely to buy the claims than not. overwhelmingly donald trump, the people who choose donald trump as their number one choice among the likely iowa republican caucus goers say that donald trump ended up winning in 2020. just, you know, yet another kind of indication on if you're a trump person you probably end up believing there. if you are a desantis voter or a

tim scott voter you're likely not to believe his false claims. >> i guess, susan, i find it surprising, but if you see this data, these numbers, it makes it a little more understandable that people think he's being unfairly accused, the indictments are not fair. if you think he really won, that election was, quote, stolen from him, i guess the other things flow from that? >> here's something i found quite remarkable in this poll. the poll was in the field over the time that georgia indictment was announced and those who were surveyed before the georgia indictments were announced were less likely to believe trump was legitimately elected than those surveyed after. the charges of racketeering, actually persuaded some voters. 6 percentage points in fact to believe trump when they weren't inclined to believe him before. that shows us why these indictments haven't weakened trump politically. they seem to have hardened his

support, andrea. >> mark, you have new polling data on who should -- who people believe should be the leader of the republican party. >> 41% of likely iowa republican caucus goers say donald trump should continue as the leader of the party. about a third say donald trump was a good president, but maybe we need to go in a different direction. about you have about a third saying we need to go in a completely different direction. >> that's interesting. >> more than half are open to a possibility other than donald trump, but right now, andrea, the 41%, almost matches former president donald trump's position on the ballot in that first choice and if you are looking at a crowded multicandidate field where now the field is eight or nine republicans, 40, 41, 42% could be a winning number. >> susan, that brings me to new hampshire governor chris sununu callingen to republicans to nare rot field to prevent donald

trump from landing the nomination, candidates not in the top three or four after the iowa caucuses should drop out. >> i think this field will get narrowed before that. the debate on wednesday is going to narrow the field. it's going to be -- create problems for those who didn't make the debate stage. the skds debate in september, higher standard to get on the stage. i think eight candidates who made the first debate won't make the next one. there is going to be a whittling process. what we see governor sununu concerned about a repeat of what happened last time around in 2016 when people were -- rivals were unwilling to get off the stage and that did help donald trump's support take the prize. >> well, mark murray, with your poll numbers, the poll here and susan page who knows everything about everything in politics. thank you so much, susan. thanks for being with us. and mark. too close for comfort. following concerns over a rising number of runway close calls,

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aviation and has more on what faa is doing keeping runways safe. >> reporter: this was flight 1288 coming in during the tropical storm, heavy rains and gusty winds, hit the ground, dragging its left wing down the runway. at the same time nbc news learning the faa is urging runway safety meetings. this morning, a terrifying landing caught on camera. on board an alaska airlines flight traveling from seattle to orange county, california, sunday. >> holly [ bleep ]. there's sparks outside. >> reporter: sparks flying from the aircraft as the plane made a rough landing at john wayne airport. >> we have a category 3 737 that had a main landing gear collapse. it is resting on its engine. >> establishing airport ic. the 737 main landing gear collapsed. >> reporter: the aircraft was

unable to taxi to the gate due to an issue with its landing gear. thankfully no reports of injuries. but passengers this year have faced a number of frightening incidents in the skies and on the runways based on another issue. close calls related to control tower and pilot communications. nbc news has learned the faa is calling on airports nationwide to hold runway safety meetings now. following growing concerns over a rising number of close calls. >> anywhere between 300 lives or more were put at risk in these near collisions. >> reporter: one close call at austin airport where a controller cleared a fedex 767 cargo jet to land on the same runway a southwest 737 was landing full of passengers. you can see in the congressional animation how close they might have come. another incident at boston logan airport, a learjet pilot took off without clearance as a jetblue flight was landing on a

crossing runway. this image showing the moment. the faa's runway safety meetings are scheduled at 90 airports and will focus on situational awareness in cockpits and towers. double confirming radio instructions and sterile cockpits. pilots should only be talking to each other about the job until they reach 10,000 feet. >> everybody needs to be more vigilant and double down on safety. >> reporter: so a close call on a runway between planes or vehicles is called a runway incursion. there were 1700 last year. that's up 33% in ten years. back to you. >> thanks to tom costello. those are scary numbers. thanks. the stage is now set in milwaukee. eight republicans running for president are now ready for the first debate tomorrow night. the frontrunner he won't be there. what that means for the

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moines register" poll. trying to engage minority voters as they see a tight election, if it is trump versus biden. nbc's shaq brewster is in milwaukee with all the details. >> reporter: deep within this milwaukee neighborhood is a republican party attempt to engage minority voters. >> when you pass this office what are you thinking in. >> i'm curious. i haven't seen so many minorities. >> reporter: gerard helps run the space that originally opened in 2020. it. >> this whole strip has become known as the black arts strip. >> reporter: he says it's been a hub for republican recruitment, organizing and engagement including at the city's juneteenth celebration this year. >> this place in terms of a fixed location, is generally where people can come to get more information about the party, and its platform. >> reporter: and serves as a stop for gop candidates. >> we are going to be on the

near north side of milwaukee. i care about everybody in the state of wisconsin. >> reporter: the concept, expanding in 2021 when the national chairwoman opened a second chapter in a separate largely hispanic neighborhood. >> as a party we have to show up in communities that have been habitually democrat. >> reporter: while that space is currently closed, this one remains active, though its influence unclear. last november, top republicans earned just about 18 of more than 370 votes cast in this ward. the same one that houses this republican office. >> it's a battle for of vote in every neighborhood. >> how do you make that sale, when in the ward you have less than 5% in the most recent election? >> you keep plugging away. you don't get discouraged by the fact that, you know, it it's 5% today. it might be 10% in the next election. >> reporter: 2020 exit polls showed just 8% of wisconsin's

black voters backed donald trump. randall says the target for state republicans has been 30%. >> i get on the bus right here every day, so i don't really see nobody come in or out of it. >> reporter: democrats say they welcome the challenge. >> you can put as many offices as you like here, but our voters, our residents, understand who has their back and who continues to deliver. >> reporter: as republicans here insist this is a long-term strategy. >> we can't extend the reach of the party unless we make a case to those voters that we'll need now and in the future. >> another way of saying that, the republican party will need black voters? >> we always have. >> reporter: and shaq joins me now. you know, i remember the conclusions after the 2012 loss and they've said they needed to broaden the base and they've done anything but broaden the base. but they now see

vulnerabilities. >> reporter: that's exactly right, andrea. one thing that you're seeing from the other side from democrats, they're saying they're pushing back as well. the biden campaign releasing a new ad set to air tomorrow for the milwaukee market. you also have top dnc and biden campaign officials in milwaukee hosting events, somewhat of a counter programming to tomorrow's debate. there are warning flags for democrats as well. they saw a drop off in overall it turnout here in milwaukee, although they were able to maintain, their margin. where it's about enthusiasm you have both parties saying they're focused on black voters in the crucial battleground state. >> thanks very much. great reporting there. and joining me now are ohio's former republican governor john kasic, who shared the debate stage with donald trump back in 2016 in cleveland and former obama re-election campaign manager jim me sin na. governor, you've been there. what's it like to be on the

stage, and who has the most at it stake tomorrow night? what does donald trump risk by sitting it out? >> well, first of all, i think you kind of have to practice. i did a lot of practicing, but also, familiarizing myself with the issues. as the debates went on there was one other thing i needed to do, realize where the cameras were so when i said something i was looking at the camera not looking somewhere else, and then, andrea, being able to finish a sentence. not easy for me to do. >> yeah. >> you don't want to step on your own lines so you have to have that sort of clip structure so you don't walk out on -- and leave people saying, okay, what did that mean? that's something. trump's not there because, you know, he's got the big lead and doesn't want to be pummeled. i suspect he may be back for the second debate. you know, thirdly, it's going to be interesting to see who can shine. desantis has an opportunity here

to try to get back on his footing and that's one you have to keep your eye on. >> and so, jim, you've done debate prep with campaigns and the biden campaign is making a $25 million ad buy in battleground states and the first wisconsin specific ad focusing on jobs. we have a small clip. >> my name is kyla and concrete has been my career. i'm a cement mason by trade. being a mom is hard. it's just hard in a different way. it's really unique to catch a break. i feel like joe biden understand people like me. >> good to see you, man. >> all of the things that biden fought to get passed helped the middle class. wages are going up around here. the people i deal with on a day-to-day basis are getting a pay raise. >> so how does joe biden counter program by trying to get people focused on what he, you know, points out are his accomplishments on the economy when it's all going to be about donald trump?

>> that's exactly what the biden campaign wants. they want the republicans to double down on the trump maga policies, getting rid of abortion, a federal ban, going after the wildly popular programs that are having a manufacturing boom in the midwest, where the governor is from, at the same it time focus on the economy, focus on the middle class, and so that contrast, maga republicans versus economic joe biden, is exactly the frame the democrats want tomorrow night in milwaukee. >> and to governor kasic, abortion such a big issue in wisconsin. they have now the supreme court as you know has won that seat so they have a democratic majority on the supreme court. they've got this, you know, ban that's, you know, going to be on the ballot. what about the whole national issue of abortion? planned parenthood is airing ads

in the state tomorrow. >> i think what these candidates are going to have to do is describe their position, and, you know, it gets back to the states. that was the -- that was the whole theory behind all this. secondly, i think that the candidates have to, regardless of how they feel, they have to realize they have to listen to voters. i said over and over, andrea, i think voters don't want extremism on either end. i think the sweet spot is in the middle. it's not satisfying to everyone, but i think that's what they have to talk about. we'll have to see if that issue actually comes up in this debate. i'm not so sure that it will. it's going to be interesting to see how -- what it gets down to, in a way is, what's your vision? how do you excite people. how do you stand out? you can't manufacture it. you have to look for that moment and when that moment comes, try to knock it out of the ball park and then stop saying what you're saying and let people digest it. i have a tendency to run on.

that's a bad tendency in a debate. say what you have to say and shut up. there. i've just done it. >> criticism from john kasic. look at the camera. that would help. john kasic. >> absolutely. >> jim me siena, thanks tojim m thanks to both of you and after the gop debate make sure to join rachel maddow for full analysis that's 11:00 p.m. eastern, wednesday, right here on msn he -- msnbc streaming on peacock. former trump doj official jeffrey clark filing a new motion. former u.s. attorney barbara mcdade is here with us. >> the environment was practically the acting ag until that became unraveled in the

oval office and now he says he should be immune in federal court that this case should not be in state court because of his official duties as a federal officer and so he should not have to surrender because that should be dealt with before his surrender and there should be a temporary restraining order. does he have a leg to stand on? >> i don't think so andrea. the statute says while the court is considering whether a federal case is the appropriate place the state court proceedings should not stop, it should continue and so there is no basis for him to get this day and for him to pause anything going on in the state court and the reason is to avoid unnecessary delay where defendant could just throw sand in the gears by frivolously claiming that they can move their case to federal court. >> barbara mcquade, as always,

thanks for doing double duty today and history lesson, members of the little rock 9, the first groups to integrate public schools in arkansas pushing back on efforts to restrict an african-american studies course that's next. you are watching andrea mitchell reports on msnbc. runng this kitchen. (vo) make the switch. it's your business. it's your verizon. tide is busting laundry's biggest myth... that cold water can't clean. cold water, on those stains? ♪♪ cold water can't clean tough stains? i'd say that myth is busted. turn to cold, with tide. what's the subway series? it's the perfect sub roster. just give us a number we got the rest. four. supreme meats. six. the boss. fifteen. titan turkey. ninety-nine. grand slam ham. i'm gonna need twenty-three of those,

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little rock arkansas high school made history 66 years ago when the little rock nine integrated its classrooms and it now fighting efforts to whitewash history. little rock central high school is one of six schools in the state sticking with it plans to offer ap african-american studies despite the state education department warning the class might not count toward graduation requirements. that's because it is unclear if the course violates a new state law signed by republican governor sarah huckabee sanders manning the teacher -- teaching

of critical race theory. the class will include the impact that those nine brave black students had on the civil rights movement. the surviving members of the little rock nine say the state is launching a broader attack on black history. joining us now is nbc news national reporter tracy harris. thank you for joining us. explain the little rock nine reaction to this and how the dispute has evolved. >> i would describe the reaction that i have heard from survivor members that i have been able to get in touch with is really one of alarm. elizabeth eck bird without hesitation when i asked her for her response to these developments described it as part of an attempt to erase history that working for the republican party. terrence

roberts, another member questioned why the ap african- american studies course seems to be singled out for this treatment of potential not counting towards graduation requirements so overall there was just really an overarching expression of concern from those i connected with. >> and what does the little rock school district say about this decision to offer the course? are they expecting fallout? how do they fight it? fight the governor's decisions? >> so at this point i have not heard a direct concern from representatives of the school district about the fallout that might incur from going forward, but really what's just been reiterated is that they have a commitment to going forward with this course. they are also going to make sure that students are able to take the

ap exam and have those fees covered because one part of the fallout from this as well with the state is that the states not from my understanding as district have it now, the state is not expected to pick up the tab for covering the ep costs which could be a deterrent depending on a student's socioeconomic background so not only are they offering the course but they are committed to their not eating barriers to them potentially receiving college credit if those fees need to be covered. >> andrea: and has governor huckabee sanders explained why this curriculum does not meet state standards? >> i did reach out to a spokesperson with her administration for our reporting. i have not yet heard back. she did have an appearance on

fox news where she was asked about this and her remarks referenced you know, leftist propaganda. we are still monitoring for developments and seeing if any more concrete concerns are outlined, but as of this point we have not heard a response from her illustration to our request for comment. >> andrea: i have seen other nationally recognized educators, professors of black history expressing concerns about how this is all starting in florida and now elsewhere. texas, some examples of similar restrictions that antonia hylton was covering last year and this year as well. so this is a trend in these cultural issues are becoming part of the 2024 election campaign. >> this is definitely something that we are seeing in several

states across the country. these restrictions on how race can be taught and discussed in classrooms and i think one of the interesting things that came up in the converse nation -- conversation i had with terrence roberts who was also a surviving member of little rock nine was that he watched this sweep of legislation so-called bands happening and he said in his viewpoint he called it ridiculous but something he also expressed concern about was what is the ultimate impact on students? they feel that their teachers or principals are on edge because they have these concerns of running a foul on these bans so it's definitely something to keep watching what the impact is in the classroom as we go into the 2024 election and beyond. >> bracey harris, thank you for

your reporting. we really appreciate you. >> thank you. >> and that does it for this edition of andrea mitchell reports. remember follow the social media sites @andreamitchellreports. chris jansing reports right now. good day i'm chris jansing live in msnbc headquarters in new york city. what we are talking about is going into the court into the jail. one by one donald trump co-defendants making their way into the fulton county jail to be booked on any charges. the latest on what they are saying including one who is now opening -- openly questioning why trump is not footing the bill for their defense. tomorrow's debate could be the last best chance everyone not named donald trump is going to get to convince republican voters they are