the stones have yet to confirm the news. it would mark their 31st studio album. the first since 2016. there are all kinds of rumors make mccartney played one or two, ringo and more. we will see. that wraps up the lawyer for me. thank you for the privilege of your time. andrea mitchell picks up with more news right now. right now on "andrea mitchell reports," donald trump doubling down on his false claims of a rigged election, a day before he is set to surrender. >> every occasion, i'm telling the truth and they are lying. this will be proven to be,like

all the rest, a complete hoax. republican primary candidates finishing their debate prep. a big night in milwaukee, hoping to break out of the crowd and narrow the gap in the polls with the former president. steve kornacki will be here to break it all down. what do voters want? our nbc news poll taking a dive into the issues that iowa republicans, the first to cast their votes, care about most. ♪♪ we are monitoring the fulton county jail where former president trump is expected to surrender tomorrow. many of his co-defendants are surrendering today. rudy giuliani is in georgia

today, hiring john esposito to handle his bail and surrender, adding to what "the new york times" reports are nearly $3 million in his legal defenses. two more defendants surrendering last night. kenneth chesebro and ray smith. there were developments in the mar-a-lago classified documents case. the resource technology man said he knew nothing about erasing tapes. joining me now, blaine ale er

in -- blayne alexander in manhattan and phil rucker. blayne, start us off. the focus on rudy giuliani. >> reporter: we are standing by and waiting. we are expecting his attorneys to show up at the courthouse any minute and go into a meeting with the d.a.'s team. what we have seen today is a flury of activity in the form of consent bond agreements for other co-defendants. that means that we can expect to see a flury of activity at the jail. we have seen a bond agreement for misty hampton. her bail is $10,000. 45 minutes before that news came out, i was inside the courtroom. i saw attorneys for misty hampton walking with one of the top prosecutors. they were walking from one wing of their office and led down

another hallway and into a stairwell. she was very -- her attorneys were very likely going into a meeting with the d.a.'s team. that matches the cadence. the attorneys will go behind closed doors. they will hammer out the terms of the agreement for surrender. that's what we are expecting to see with rudy giuliani's legal team as they make their way to the fulton county courthouse. >> a lot of activity. you are following it out and so closely. thank you. this is a stunning fall from grace for rudy giuliani, after years spent taking on the mob as a prosecutor in manhattan and the number three overall and america's mayor. what an extraordinary story. >> extraordinary. to be reminded, he has been suspended from the practice of law in new york for two overs

and the washington, d.c. bar recommended he be disbarred there. they made a statement. they said as part of their decision that his misconduct transcends all of his past accomplishments. yes, he was the southern district u.s. attorney. he was the mayor of new york city. but he is the laboring man of the conspiracy. he is co-conspirator number one. he is all over that indictment because of the allegations that he went to michigan and pennsylvania and wisconsin and he is not being prosecuted for his first amendment speech.

it is no wonder why he is seeking to have mr. trump pay for his legal fees, because he was the main guy who went through all of the states and committed all of these acts. he will say they were legal acts. the prosecutors say they are illegal acts. >> phil, you have written two books on donald trump. rudy giuliani is part of that narrative. they go back all the way to the highs and lows in new york city for both people. >> that's right, andrea. rudy giuliani is a long-thyme -- longtime friend, political advisor for donald trump. when trump was a candidate for office and then during the four years of his presidency, giuliani was a fixture at his side. he was very close to trump throughout, helping him navigate scandals, representing him as

his personal attorney on a number of matters. as we all recall, lying on his behalf to the interviews and press statements as well as when he was going stay to stay to try to press these really unfounded claims of voter fraud and providing no evidence to support them. >> we should point out, phil, from the first impeachment, he was very involved in going to ukraine and trying to find evidence of influence from the former vice president and his son and other people. i remember interviewing him in warsaw when he was with two of the key players in that narrative. >> a key figure in trying to pressure the ukrainian government to dig up dirt on a political opponent of trump, who was joe biden, of course, and his son hunter. >> talk to me about the greater

atlanta community and how they are reacting. you are representing in the state legislature. >> georgians watched as trump and giuliani tried to disenfranchise millions of voters and attempt a coup. the charges could not be more serious. anyone that attempts to subvert an election in this manner is attacking the very foundation of our democracy. therefore, really of the entire united states. we have here in atlanta right now and in the state capital, where i am currently, a real divide as we see throughout american society. some of us, like myself, believe that these charges are incredibly serious and that georgians deserve to see the legal process play out and hold

individuals accountable for what their alleged acts are. we have other colleagues calling for a special session to try to de-fund the prosecutor or have her disbarred. which is not something the state legislature even has any power to do. you really do see that split screen reaction, unfortunately. i wish we could all conclude how serious these alleged acts are. >> i wanted to go back on there point regarding the classified documents case. how significant do you think this is? how big an asset could that be to the testimony as a potential witness for jack smith? >> it's very -- it will be very

compelling testimony. i believe he is employee number four in the superseding indictments. when he was represented by people connected to trump, he testified falsely. when he had a new attorney, he recanted and went truthfully. he is clearly cooperating with the prosecution and will be one of the lead witnesses against nauta and mr. trump about the attempt to delete the server. it's very important. he will testify -- i don't know whether he was told to not testify truthfully. if he was, he will say that and how he decided it was important for him to now tell the truth. he will be a very important witness against mr. trump and his two co-defendants. >> potentially a signal to others and especially in the large georgia case that you don't get indicted if you end up

cooperating. >> telling the truth. yes. >> phil, we will talk about the debate coming up, the polling and everything else. you know donald trump better than any of us. is there any chance that he is not going to be watching? >> andrea, of course, he is going to be watching. he lives for these moments. he is going to want to watch. he is going to be looking to see how much of a fixture he becomes in this debate, even though he is not on stage as a candidate. the race really -- the republican primary race really revolves around him at the moment. he is far and away the frontrunning candidate. i expect a lot of the candidates on stage tonight will have to talk about him and grapple with all the news about trump, even though trump is not on stage and trump almost certainly will be watching or at least will watch some sort of recording of it later in the evening probably. >> keeping tabs on every time he is mentioned. >> yeah. >> thanks so much.

center stage, the first 2024 republican debate kicking off in milwaukee tonight, minus the republican frontrunner, as we have been saying. how will the eight candidateshe? that's next. you are watching "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. (christina) with verizon business unlimited, i get 5g, truly unlimited data, and unlimited hotspot data. so, no matter what, i'm running this kitchen. (vo) make the switch. it's your business. it's your verizon.

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steve kornacki is at the big board. this could be the single biggest night for any of these candidates hoping to take advantage of donald trump's absence. >> we have been seeing in different polls that donald trump has an enormous lead. this is our new nbc news des moines register poll of the first caucus state of iowa. here you see trump's lead at 42%. desantis, the second place but at 19%. no one else in double digits. trump not there tonight. who has the biggest opportunity on paper to move up? is there room here for one of the candidates to make this a race with trump? when you dig deeper into the numbers, you see two candidates who have an obvious opportunity tonight. it's desantis and tim scott. it's because of this, let me

show you what we did here. we asked folks in this poll not just who their first choice is. on the first choice, trump is way ahead. we asked their second choice and running through all of the candidates, are they -- tell me who you are actively considering. maybe you are not voting for them yet, but they are under active consideration in your mind. i think this is interesting. trump, if you combine those three categories, does have the highest number at 63%. look, desantis is almost equal there, 61%. tim scott, not far off at 53%. what you see in our poll in iowa and what you see in national polls and polls in other states as well is trump is ahead, but not -- desantis and scott are not unpopular with republicans. they have high favorable numbers. in scott's case, very low negative case. desantis, pretty low negative

numbers. there's broad good will towards desantis and scott. no trump on the stage tonight, what these numbers suggest is there's room for desantis and scott to tap into that good will. will one of them do it tonight and move up a little bit in iowa and elsewhere? >> steve kornacki, that's a great breakdown. thanks for starting us off here. now we have garrett haake in milwaukee for all of the excitement joining us along with charlie sykes. garrett, tell us the latest on governor doug burgum's condition with a leg injury. is he going to be able to stand and be in the debate tonight? >> reporter: we don't know. neither does his campaign. a source telling nbc news that the governor will do the walk through this afternoon. usually the last chance, sometimes first chance to get a lay of the land on the stage and then make a call about whether or not he can go through with the debate, which would require

him to stand at a podium for two hours. they will try to make that decision this afternoon. his campaign trying to make a little light of the situation. they tweeted out a photo of a younger doug burgum playing basketball. this is not the first time he has had a basketball injury. it's the first time he has ended up in the e.r. from a pickup game. not being able to participate tonight would be a blow to this campaign, which has been trying to get attention, trying to get itself off the ground. had to use a creative way of getting to the donor threshold to make the debate. they want their man on the stage. >> to follow up there, they ended up paying $20, i think, to get people to donate so that they reached that 40,000 donor threshold? >> reporter: that's right. you have a candidate who is a multimillionaire many times over who would not be relying on

outside donors were donations not a requirement of making the stage. they ran a public promotion saying, for a $1 donation, you get a $20 gift card. they tied it to an inflation message. used that to help them get across the threshold. >> we don't know if he had surgery? >> reporter: we don't. he was released so it's unlikely. >> let's talk about vivek ramaswamy. he is hoping to keep his momentum going. he is making headlines for making controversial comments about 9/11. he raised questions about whether it was an inside job.

>> garrett, you had a chance to talk vivek ramaswamy. bring us up to date on that. >> reporter: yeah, andrea, these comments from ramaswamy getting attention now is indicative of how quick his rise has been in conservative politics. i think you could think of him as the republican version of pete buttigieg from the last cycle, in terms of strategy. he tried to make himself omnipresent in conservative media. the more that you talk, the more likely you are to say something that can be used against you at a time in which it becomes useful to do so. he has been rising in the polls who is getting more scrutiny on

everything he says, including the 9/11 comments, which he has been trying to clean up in media appearances. ramaswamy is someone who is almost completely unknown outside the narrow conservative electorate that's been paying close attention to the race. i asked him yesterday exactly how he would judge victory or a good night on the stage here tonight. here is what he told me. >> what's a good night? a good night is introducing myself to the people of this country and people who maybe, just maybe some people who can pronounce my name. >> reporter: it gives you an idea of someone who is rising quickly but has a lot of work to do to introduce himself and will get a lot of attention from the other candidates trying to knock him back down to size. >> i know you are only a visitor in milwaukee, but charlie is a resident. talk to us about wisconsin and who you expect to have a

breakout moment with republicans in wisconsin. >> first of all, it's very hot here. it will hit 99. the problem with eight candidates on the stage is they have 12 1/2 minutes to have the breakout moment. donald trump is not there. so i will be watching to see how effective chris christie is, who is the -- i think the ultimate political performance artist. obviously, i will be watching ron desantis. is he going to be able to be human? is he going to be able to be funny, effective? is he going to be able to turn his campaign around? i think that would be the biggest surprise of the night if he was. i think there's going to be a lot of shots aimed at vivek. he has been rising. for someone like nikki haley, it's a risk-free way of using her stilettos to go after somebody who is not part of the maga cult of personality. i think that you are going to see a lot of shots thrown at an

absent donald trump, obvious ly. desantis will be very vulnerable. you will see a lot of elbows thrown as vivek. as far as tim scott, i think -- i put an asterisk there. i think it's more likely he is running for vice president. but this is a chance to be above the fray and perhaps be the most likeable or least unlikable candidate on the stage. >> he is repeatedly denying that in terms of not running for president, of course, as one would. charlie, also, the former president has been saying that sparks will fly. that's what he put out on his social media. do wisconsin republicans want to hear them attacking each other or are they concerned about issues or is it impossible to generalize? >> it's impossible to generalize. people want a show. donald trump showed his contempt for the wisconsin republican

party, for the rnc, for fox news and for his rivals. but that's been his style since 2015. so far, it has worked. he insulted his way to two republican nominations and he thinks he can do it. again, what a surreal, extraordinary split screen of all of these candidates debating while tomorrow we will be talking about donald trump's fourth perp walk where he faces an additional 13 felony charges. we have never seen anything remotely like this. >> that's for sure. thanks to both of you. keep cool, if you can, in 99 degrees. wow. after the debate tonight, join rachel and joy and nicole for full analysis. that's at 11:00 p.m. eastern, right here on msnbc and streaming on peacock. the search for the missing. maui residents giving voice to their community's despair as the

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to publishing a full list of the missing. we are learning more about those who died. >> it brought some closure to know that that was my mom. there are other families out there that still don't know. >> steve patterson joining us now from maui. it's a little shocking that they have more people added to the list of the not accounted for. >> reporter: yeah. it's shocking. but it's sort of usual. covering the campfire in 2018, this happened as well. sometimes there's missing names. there might be missing ages or genders. it's very difficult for police and crews on the ground to track that, especially with how badly burned a lot of the remains are. it requires dna matching to get

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more new polling of iowa republicans from that nbc news des moines register poll, giving us insight into what likely republican caucus goers say are the most important issues as they choose. topping the list is concern over the southern border. 77% say using the military to secure the border makes them more likely to support a candidate. 65% say fighting the left so-called woke agenda. 61% say a candidate banning gender affirming care for youth under 18 resonates with them. if a candidate is criticizing donald trump over the federal charges he is facing, 54% are less likely to support him or her. 29% saying it would not matter to them. 16% say, they are more likely to back that candidate.

joining me now, mark murray back with us and former obama white house press secretary robert gibbs and former communication advisor to ryan and boehner, brendan buck. let's talk about the three issues that they care about most and the methodology used in this -- the framing of the questions, was it an important factor in deciding what they chose as an issue? >> yeah. we selected seven issues. because of space reasons. things that are resonating on the republican campaign trail. the three most popular ones that people say, yes, i would support you if you took this position, it's sending u.s. troops to the border, it is cracking down on the left's woke agenda and banning gender affirming care for minors. that's not all that surprising given the rhetoric that we have seen from most of the republicans on the campaign trail that hit these issues time and time again.

>> was the question phrased, the left's woke agenda? >> we did. that's how it was done. it was given to likely caucus goers in iowa. we were trying to actually test what that likely republican electorate was going to say and do on this question. >> to get them to respond and get a rise out of them. brendan, least popular with iowa's caucus goers are candidates who criticize donald trump. how does that play out politically? >> it's not surprising. if anybody is wondering why so many are hesitant to attack him, i don't think -- everybody should know that there's risk to that. i also have very little sympathy for any of them. if you got into this race to essentially defeat donald trump, you should be willing and open to doing that.

if we tested whether it's unpopular to attack ron desantis, i'm sure something similar would show up there. at some point you have to do it, or else nothing will change. those issues that you just showed, i doubt there's disagreement about where they come down on those things. whether you are willing to actually go up against donald trump could be an actual place for you to assert yourself and demonstrate you are a leader willing to stand up to somebody. if you look for an opportunity, that could be it for some of these people. >> robert gibbs, i want to ask you about the abortion issue. where did abortion rank on the issues they care about? >> it was in the middle. it was actually the fourth most popular, with 54% of likely republican caucus goers saying, i would be more likely to vote for a candidate who supports a 15-week federal ban on abortion.

interestingly, 24% of those likely republican iowa caucus goers would be less likely. it was a net positive position to take. but it doesn't resonate the way sending u.s. troops to the border does. >> robert gibbs, that's surprising given the large percentage of caucus goers who are evangelical. >> it is. my guess is the bigger numbers are the top line capture most of the vangelical members. the ones that are not all that excited about it are suburban republicans around places like des moines. i think this is, quite frankly, the tension and the fight that the republican party has had since the dobbs decision last year. it's something they are going to have to navigate. iowa passed a stronger ban than 15 weeks. it will be interesting to see whether 15 weeks is the bar for some of the most conservative candidates inside of this.

i will be interested to see, to brendan's points, who will attack donald trump. that poll showed 58% of the people don't support donald trump. how do the candidates on that stage start to grab a bigger portion of the people that already aren't with donald trump and position themselves in the future to have that ability to beat him? nobody is going to win this nomination tonight. nobody is going to lose it. the question is, how do you come out of tonight better positioned for the next series of events? >> what about a six-week ban in iowa? >> it was still -- it was supported. it was a different question. it was not on this battery of what is more popular or not. there was -- did this hit the right spot, did you think it went too far? overwhelmingly, iowa republican caucus goers said there was -- they were receptive to it. whether we look at the -- the six-week ban wasn't part of the issues. it was the 15-week ban.

>> when we talk about abortion in midwestern states, we have seen what happened in kansas and wisconsin on abortion. it's not as easily predictable that the western republican -- wisconsin is a swing state, but in places like kansas, abortion resonates more. that's a general election issue now for democrats. >> yeah. anybody who is hoping that they win this nomination needs to look down the road in how their position would play in a general election. the thing i'm most interested on abortion is whether the candidates have figured out what their position is. many of them have been all over the place trying to articulate what their view is. i imagine don't want to discuss it as much as they can, maybe other than mike pence. whether they have a clear portion might be the strongest tell about how strong of a position they think this is. >> robert gibbs, what is the president going to be watching for tonight? >> i think the president and his

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border where they are starting to see more migrants crossing. i saw the way they were processing migrants. it was similar to what we would have seen previously to title 42 where they allow more to come in. i wanted to look at the data. what we find is that there are far fewer migrants being sent back into mexico than there were under title 42. migrants now, per day, only 14% are being sent back to mexico. that's partly because of mexico will only take 30,000 a month. they are only taking people of certain nationalities. because it takes them longer to process these migrants. it's a longer process. the data is still preliminary here. it's something to watch, because as the numbers are starting to grow at the border, it could mean this tool isn't keeping as many migrants out as it did under title 42. at the end of title 42, that didn't do a lot to keep migrants out. we saw record highs. >> what do you think as the aclu

has been so central in all of this, protecting migrants and their rights, what do you think of the policy known as asylum ineligibility? does the biden administration need this policy? is it the correct policy? >> no, we don't think it's the correct policy. we also think it's illegal. we have been challenging it along with our partners. so far, a district court judge found it unlawful for the same reasons that the trump administration's asylum bans were unlawful. the administration is assuming this policy is necessary, but there's a few fundamental flaws. one is that experts will tell you that u.s. policy does not dictate migration flows. what dictates migration flows are several factors. one of them is heat and the temperature. more importantly, how dangerous it is in particular countries. if it's dangerous for people, they are going to leave no matter what u.s. policy is. the second point is, we

fundamentally need to alter our system and put more resources in. we cannot be deterring people who have -- are in danger from coming to this country. we have made that commitment after world war ii. we cannot back down. i think the administration's assuming that they need to stop, they need to put this rule in to stop people from coming. if they just use the regular immigration policies, that will work, we believe. and i think it's no surprise, julia has noted in her reporting, that more people are being allowed to stay under title 42 because title 42 had no exceptions to apply for i asylum. this has sum exceptions. while less people are being sent back, it's still very draconian, and people with credible claims are being sent back. and title 42 is a low bar to overcome because no one was allowed to apply for asylum. >> that explains it so clearly. julia, the other wing i wanted to ask you is an update on the buoys and the legal situation.

i know the feds are trying to stop greg abbott from doing that, speaking of danger, that was considered very dangerous to people crossing. >> that's right. that's the argument they made in court yesterday, when that case went before a federal judge. we'll see how that's ultimately decided and it could go all the way to the supreme court. there i think we'll see a big question about how the supreme court will rule in terms of whether or not texas can keep those buoys or whether or not that's in violation of the federal government sovereignty and the sovereignty of the government of mexico who has said that texas is invading their territory by putting those along the rio grande and that it's actually in violation of an international rivers and harbors act. so a lot to watch there. it's all part of governor greg abbott's plan, using people who used to work under the trump administration to build barriers when the biden administration won't continue the wall, and they're doing it with the impact specifications if there is a future trump administration, they can pick up and expand the

barriers and buoys, andrea. >> and briefly, you expect this case is going to end up at the high court? >> i think there is a good chance it may. you know, it's hard to predict, but i think the biden administration is intent on keeping this policy, notwithstanding the legality, so we'll have to see. the other thing i wanted to point out, you have been dogged about keeping this in the public eye. the family separation policy in the trump administration, we're still a long way from solving that. we believe that there are 500 to a thousand children who are still years later not with their parents, some of whom were separated when they were just babies or toddlers, so there's a lot of work to be done on a lot of fronts. >> i mean, they're growing up, spending their whole childhood without their families. julia ainsley, lee, thank you both so much for staying on this. and the remarkable rescue inside the daring and pain staking mission to save children from a cable car in pakistan,

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there have been celebrations across pakistan today after military commandos completed a dramatic and daring rescue of seven students and a teacher from nearly a thousand feet in the air over a ravine. the 12-hour ordeal is highlighting the extreme challenges that so many school children in pakistan face every day just trying to get to class over the rough terrain. nbc news foreign correspondent janis mackey frayer has details. >> reporter: what an ordeal in pakistan, and what a rescue. could you imagine being trapped in a cable car or worse, your kids dangling for 12 hours. the spoiler alert, there's a happy ending. overnight, a dramatic rescue in midair. 900 feet above the ground.

the overhead lines of a cable car had snapped, leaving eight people in pakistan, mostly children going to school on the other side of the valley, dangling over a huge ravine for 12 heart pounding hours. the cable car paralyzed, its young passengers and one adult trapped. >> for this region is very far off in the mountains region. this is kind of a shortcut where they do this like a diy type of communication, mechanism for themselves. >> rescue efforts began with military helicopters lowering commandos by rope. but an already perilous rescue mission was made worse by high winds, difficult terrain, and turbulence from their own chopper's rotors. progress was slow. after several failed attempts, the first child was lifted away to safety. >> it's painful, but you have to take it slow because that will make for the best outcome.

>> reporter: as night fell, helicopters were forced to land with most of the kids and adults still stranded. >> they didn't want the kids to be waiting all night and the parents to be suffering from anxiety. >> reporter: so they kept going, using a zip line to get one after another until every passenger was out. on solid ground, to a crowd rejoicing and relieved. this rescued youngster saying we spent the whole day in fear. pakistan's prime minister announcing on social media all the kids have been successfully and safely rescued against harrowing odds, the happiest ending. >> usually there's a thing that occurs called disaster synergy where all of these little things that go wrong spiral into big things, but this was reverse disaster synergy, right, everybody did the right thing. it's spectacular.

>> reporter: these locally made cable car systems are often used in remote mountain areas in pakistan and other places. for these kids, it means getting to school in ten minutes instead of two hours by road, but wow, what a ride it can be. >> janis mackey frayer, thanks to you, and that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports," "chris jansing reports" starts right now. good day, i'm chris jansing, live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. right now, donald trump is cooking up a political pr plan like none we've ever seen, even from him. promoting his own arrest, and devising a multipart strategy to steal the spotlight from his republican opponents on their biggest night. how the next 48 hours could deal a new blow to political norms and rewrite the campaign rules for 2024 all over again. and while the implications for trump are huge, so the stakes