♪ ♪ ♪ welcome back everyone. i'm -- in for yasmin -- if you're just joining me, welcome. we are seeing live pictures right now from the march on washington. we just heard from the family of martinique to king junior, and msnbc's own reverend al sharpton, the president of the national action network, with their vision for a better

america moving forward. of course, today's events are far from over, the mark g c has started, it's a procession through the streets of washington, from the lincoln memorial toward dr. martin luther king junior memorial. we will get back to all of this in just a few minutes. but for, now we are going to get to some other news first. including some sad breaking news today, the death of a game show icon, bob barker, the longtime host of television's the price is right, used his combination of charm and deadpan humor to come in american television staple. he has died, according to his longtime publicist. -- reports. >> come on down! come on down! >> those three words, we're all it took. >> come on down! >> -- bob, come on down. i every place i go, i hear it. on the beach in hawaii, in europe, museums, a little

softer maybe. but, come on down. >> it's the price is right! >> the first 35 years, bob parker hosted the price is right, a game show that challenge contestants to guess the price on everyday items. >> the actual retail price is, $200 -- you are the winner. >> a court born in arlington washington park, to spend his early years on the roads but indian reservation in south dakota, where his mother was a schoolteacher. in 1942, he joined the navy, training as a fighter pilot during world war ii. his entertainment career began in radio, with the barb parker show. >> okay i've got it, bob, go. i'm >> gonna go. >> his big break and television come six years later, as in the game show truth or consequences. >> if you like excitement, you have come to the right place. >> and in 1972, it was on to the show that would make him a household name. >> 33 cents. >> it became the longest

running game show in television history. and animal rights advocate, barker quit his host of the miss usa patching in 1988, when organize refused to removed for coats from the price package. >> and that educated the public, to a certain extent, people had never thought about animals -- they were suddenly thinking about it. >> he later found an organization focused on reducing the overpopulation of domestic cats and dogs. >> i was born with nothing but compassion and love for animals. >> and after each show, barker would make this clip to his audience. >> and please remember, help control the pet population, get your pet spayed or neutered, goodbye and -- >> i want the whole thing. >> on the big screen, it took a few screens at adam sandler and happy gilmore. 2007, the 83 old barker bit of

heartfelt goodbye, adding a 50 year career that included 19 emmys. >> i want to thank you very, very much. for inviting me into your home [applause] . over the last 50 years, i am deeply grateful. [applause] >> contestants on his show one valuable prizes, but it was barker that run over daytime heating in america, with his easygoing -- >> -- nbc news. >> joe, thanks. all right shipping years not to america's latest mass shooting, this time in boston. at least seven people were injured this morning between two groups that were involved, multiple guns have been recovered. more than one arrest has been made. at an oklahoma, at least two were shot at a high school football game in a small town outside of oklahoma city. one reportedly has died. police believe an argument started between at least two men, which led to the shooting. a search for the suspect is underway. turn to other news of the, day all 19 of the co-defendants in

the georgia rico case have now been booked and processed at the fulton county jail. meaning, we now have 19 mugshots including the very first one for a former president. and now, at least five former president's codefendants are asked to have their cases moved to federal court. sydney powell has become the second codefendant to request a speedy trial date. john eastman's lawyer says they're meeting this weekend to talk strategy, and that he too is likely to take that route. joining -- so julie, what's the latest you are hearing with this issue, and anything you hear from the d.a.'s office? >> yeah exactly. well, the latest that we are hearing from dea fani willis is that -- they propose not over 23rd started, less than two months away, for the start of this trial, for all 19 defendants. that is because of these moves we are seeing by some of the defendants, john eastman, the latest to be considering something like this. for a speedy trial, and under georgia law, they have to grant a speedy trial if requested

within four months, or the defendants can move to have their cases dismissed altogether. now, we've heard from the former president on this start date, of course he was unhappy with the initial start date by willis, in this case. his legal team saying that he prefers to start all of his four trials, in these four separate indictments, after the 2024 election. but, as we are talking about trump, and we see that mugshot on the screen, the first u.s. president to have his mugshot taken, he is fundraising off of it. here's what the spokesperson -- had to say last night, watch. >> it was i guess, to her probably a trophy. but thank you, because now the trophy actually became ours. the american people aren't stupid, the mugshot was probably one of the best things that ever happened to him probably at this point. so, thank you fanny. >> well, a group of people who aren't thinking fani willis are house republicans, who are in the former presidents corner. they've launched investigations

into her probe, similar to what we saw them do in the case of new york. dea alvin bragg, in that first indictment of the former president. jim jordan, the chair of the judiciary committee, that he will investigate willis just as aggressively, he said, as they went after brad. we know there was some back and forth there, it remains to be seen with the house plans to do when it comes to this, if they even can do anything, when it comes to a state case. but certainly, the former presidents allies will be in his corner through this all, as the defendants make their individual motions as lawyers, and begin to plan their defenses for a case that's this expansive, lindsey. >> okay, julia -- thank you so much for that update. joining me right now is watergate deputy special prosecutor and msnbc legal analyst -- jill, thanks for being with us today. and, you tweeted, other historical pictures this week, including of nixon's chief of staff, h are holman's thug shot, as well as his attorney generals -- you were more intimately involved in the nixon case as players.

but, it seeing, how did seeing the trump shot, compared to the others? >> it's sad to see people who had such power, who are accused of crimes, and of course in watergate, convicted of crimes. which may happen in this case. so, it's sad. seeing the actual president made me think about the fact that, i believed that we should indict richard nixon, and that maybe if we had accomplished that, and if we hadn't been stymied by special prosecutor -- saying no, impeachment is the right way to go. at a time when impeachment was actually a viable, real thing, that maybe donald trump would have learned that the law applies to the president, and he can't do the things that he did. so i am sad that we weren't able to do that. >> let's talk about this speedy trial request. sydney powell is the second codefendant a call for this after kenneth chesebro.

chesbrough's trial is now set for october 23rd, we just told you in the last segment, john eastman's lawyer says they meeting this week, to decide. he will likely make the same request, what do they stand to gain and lose from this request? >> well, one of the things that the other codefendants stand to gain is an early look at the evidence. because, since it is a rico charge, the evidence establishing all elements of the rico can be admitted against each of these people, even as the conspiracies that they weren't part of. it's all what coker arching conspiracy. so -- those who do not join. i'm sure that there was some thought that that fani willis, the district attorney would not be ready at [interpreter] -- and so they called her bluff under >> such a stringent law under georgia, for a speedy trial. which means that it must commence before november 3rd. and so, that's why the october

date was chosen. it's light enough that they can be prepared. i don't think they have much to gain from doing it, other than they may feel that severing themselves from the former president is an advantage, that being tried with him presents courtroom hurdles and evidentiary hurdles, because of the attitude about him. and so, they may feel that they get a better chance at acquittal being on their own. that's the only vintage i can think they might have thought. >> well especially if trump's team ends of using some of that as scapegoats. what does a state judge way, when granting were deciding a request like that, on speedy trial? >> actually, it's not so much that they can weigh anything. it is a mandatory right, under georgia law, and under federal law. there is a federal fetus speedy trial. so you asked for a speedy trial, the law in georgia says they must start within the term that

you are indicted -- or the next term. and, that next term ends on november 3rd. so, the trial has to start before then, once that wright is invoked. the federal law says you have 70 days after indictment. so, and that also sets off that there are certain actions that can delay it, certain motions will toll the time, or add to the 70 days. so, it still would be very fast, even in the federal court. >> okay, i just have about a minute west with you. but i want to ask about some defense trying to move their cases to a federal court. there's a hearing on monday in georgia, to see if mark meadows can move his case to federal. secretary of state brad raffensperger will testify there. what do you think will happen? >> i think it will be denied. the standard is very low, so i can't say it with 100 percent confidence. but, i believe that the first thing that they have to show is that they were acting as

federal officials, in the course of their job. it is hard for me to imagine anyone arguing, with a straight face, that it was part of his job to overturn an election, to go into coffee county and deal with the machines, and undo the votes there. to get false electors put in place. so, i can't see that, especially since the constitution is very clear, the president does not have any role in how a state conducts its elections. so given that, i don't think they're going to be able to establish that it was within the scope of their job, or that they have any kind of federal defense. those are two of the three things that they would have to show, and i think they feel on both. >> okay, well -- thanks, gonna stay with us, we appreciate your time. today former president trump's busy indictment calendar will take him back to the federal election interference case on monday, for a hearing to decide

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prosecutor absolutely, totally failed. i think that judge chutkan will probably come out somewhere a little longer than jack smith's requests, but nowhere near the request of the trump team. and i think it was a mistake for them to make such a ridiculously far out request, had they asked for something in 2025, they might have had some ground to stand on. but there is absolutely nothing that would justify postponing the trial that long. >> in terms of those millions of documents and evidence, andrew weissmann wrote a piece in the atlantic and he said that millions of documents is no reason to delay trump's january 6th trial. quote, we attorneys will be laughed out of court if we suggested delays for our side, because a page by page document review of all discovery would take three years. under that approach, no major

civil or criminal case would ever be tried for years and years, which maybe the trump team's actual goal. so joe, what will the judge be taking into consideration here? >> so, they are completely correct. and the judge will take into account that this is the modern world. that we have computers, that we have search function in all these documents, that they can look for certain keywords and review those documents, and these days we hire huge document review teams that will look for anything that stands out, that this is not at large a deal. and that they have had almost all of these documents for many months. they came from donald trump, the defendant. so i don't think that there's any chance that that will be grounds for an excessive delay. >> i want to talk to you now about the falsified documents case. a key witness, the i.t. guy at mar-a-lago, actually retracted his prior testimony and

provided information that no implicates trump and other key allies in efforts to delete security footage. he did this after switching lawyers. seems like a pretty big deal. some legal analysts are saying we could see more people flip here. what do you make of that and how does that flip impact the case? >> well, let's start with this particular one, and also look back to cassidy hutchinson, which was the same situation. she testified one way and was very uncomfortable with it, and she and her own went and got another lawyer. in this case, you had someone the judge saw that there was a potential conflict. he saw the same lawyer representing multiple people in the case. and, he asked for what is called a garcia hearing, which is a hearing where the trudge questions a defendant and says, you have a right to an independent counsel, you can get a federal defender if you can't afford one on your own,

and this particular one was complicated because of who was paying for the same lawyer. but even if they had different people paying, you are entitled to a conflict free attorney. and when you represent as this lawyer did, to people with possibly conflicting information and possibly conflicting interests, then you need to step away from it and a judge in this case had that hearing and as a result, to -- said i would like to have my own lawyer, and based on his new lawyers advice, he protected himself by telling the truth. he said i'm attracting the lies i told, and i'm going to tell you the truth. yes, there was an effort. i know about it, we were going to destroy the security tape. so it's a dramatic thing that led to the superseding indictment charging both trump and -- with conspiracy to conceal

evidence, a conspiracy to obstruct justice. and that's a big, big deal. >> all right, jill wine-banks, will have to leave it there today. but thank you so much for your time on these topics. still ahead, reflections of today's march on washington. i'll talk to one of the final speakers at the event, coming up. but first, the heartbreaking story coming out of hawaii, as rescues continue to sort through the wildfire wreckage. a report from maui, next. , next , next footlong at subway. like the subway series menu. buy one footlong in the app, get one free. for freeee. that's what i'm talking about. order in the subway app today. ♪ ♪ ♪♪ voltaren. the joy of movement. ♪♪

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staple here. -- places and a whole lot of politicians visit. and the governor is celebrating his 50th county of 99 counties in iowa. he is planning to go to all 99, so this is the halfway mark. and the owner of this pizza ranch tells us that this is the most crowded he has seen this business since bill clinton visited. and that really tells you something. we've been following the governor for the last couple of stops here, he has been packing these places. and people are saying that since the debate, they've been more inclined to come and see him. the debate, as i've been talking to voters, seems to have cracked things open a little bit. seeing that stage without trump, what a political world post-trump might look like. and voters were interested and engaged seeing these politicians talking about the issues, and trump now sort of sucking all of the oxygen out of the room. and i'll tell you something, lindsey. when you are on the ground in places like iowa and new hampshire, south carolina,

especially here in iowa, where people are taking their first in the nation caucus duties very seriously, you really do get the sense that trump does not have this in the bag. yes, there are people who support the former president, but they're interested in him and their shopping around and looking at other candidates. and there are a whole lot of voters that are meeting here that are saying they are completely undecided. there are people here who are showing up to listen, to hear what the governor has to say, and then take those moments very seriously. and there are four plus months before the iowa caucuses, and that is an eternity in the world of politics, lindsey. >> okay, i appreciate. thought dasha burns, that you so much. to dig in more here, former gop congressman joe walsh, and presidential candidates, and kurt bardella, democratic strategist and former house oversight committee spokesperson. joe, i have a multi pronged question for you. i'm going to throw a lot at you. first of all, have you seen any

real impact on the race after that debate, without the front runner donald trump on the stage? and do you see a momentum for a campaign for what ron desantis is trying to do in iowa? >> well, here's what we know. look. i think this nomination was going -- i think it's always going to be of -- whether he has one indictment or 100 indictments. but lindsey, i'll say this. republican voters are will not -- an intolerant authoritarian -- to be their nominee. that is trump, but that's also desantis. and it's vivek ramaswamy. so i think desantis and ramaswamy, on that stage the other night, still an uphill battle, but they filled that role and i think they helped themselves. still a long shot. >> curt, to this point, the next debate could feature a few candidates. north --

isa hutchinson could fail to qualify. and one republican governor argues that in order to beat trump, this field needs to become much smaller. adding at a minimum any candidate who does not make the stage for the first two debates must drop out. what happens to these campaigns when they don't make the stage? and how much does a shrinking field scare the trump team? >> well, listen. consolidation is the key here. if republicans are actually serious about trying to move on from donald trump, and they need to learn the lessons from 2016, when they failed to consolidate and decided to do a free-for-all approach. and we all know how that ended. it's, like here we are again seven years later, and they're the same playbook that already fill them in 2016. why would you do that again? the longer that there's more people in the field, the better it is for donald trump. it gets much harder for donald trump to avoid the foot -- when the field begins to narrow. when there's only three or four or five people onstage, instead of six or eight. the rationale to skip debates is built on the idea that most of the people onstage don't

have a prayers chance to become the nominee. why would donald trump engage? but when more people drop out, that means their support, we'll go to somebody out. those will help other members rise for people like desantis or tim scott or ramaswamy. then they become more of a threat to donald trump. then trump has to engage. >> we're wondering if trump could even be disqualified under the 14th amendment, something asia hutchinson said at the debate. do you think that something we're going to hear more about? >> maybe, i doubt it, though. i think that's going to go by the wayside. i think history tells us that that's going to be really tough uphill fight. they have to beat him, period. and it's going to be really difficult, because trump's legal battles are not separate from his campaign. they are his campaign. donald trump is the most persecuted person in the history of humanity, that's what he wants every republican to believe. that the deep state is after him. so every indictment and every

trial helps him along republican base voters, because they bought into that narrative, and trump's challengers generally have bought into that narrative. >> kurt, nikki haley seem to have a pretty solid night, but i wonder whether her poor in policy views are out of the face. -- is that sort of a way of getting around offending the base? or is it possible to play both sides here? >> i don't think you can play both sides here. at the end of the day, this is something that the -- just referenced. the republican electorate wants someone who is definitive, who is a bully, who is, as he said, about. you can't do anything when you're trying to straddle both sides of the republican primary electorate. you have to pick a side and do that aggressively. the one thing about donald trump that we saw in 2016, nobody ever wondered where he stood on anything. nobody ever wondered how is trump going to come down on this? it was very definitive. it's like a wwe superstar, that

caricature of much she's moe and testosterone and performance. and when you're trying to do all of these things and be all things to all people, you end up standing for absolutely nothing and nobody's going to get behind that guy. >> so, if nikki haley had a good night, she seemed to be representing more of a moderate view on issues. but as you mentioned, joe, we have ramaswamy representing some more extremist views. taking center stage, taking a lot of the spotlight. does the debate give moderates more of a reason to feel that they don't have a place in the republican party, joe? >> heck yeah. they don't. lindsey, you're so right. they don't. again, look at trump, desantis, and ramaswamy. if you add up those three, where they are in the polls, that's about 80 to 90% of the republican base. i can't emphasize this enough. nobody else on that stage, the other night, has a shot to be the nominee. republican voters want an

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nbc news correspondent -- is back with us live from the march on washington anniversary event. and i see you right there in front of the king memorial, how did the march go? what are you hearing from people today? >> hey, well, lindsey, we are the first group to make it here to the memorial. you should know that thousands of people are still coming up behind us, there across the street. this is a massive showing of people from all across the country, who coordinate in many cases to higher bus services, to do road trips to washington d.c. together. to be here for this 16th anniversary. and in fact, some of the people who were here today, reflecting on this moment, and i use that word carefully cause it's not a celebration, it's not a party although you see people wearing

t-shirts and playing music at times. this is a recommitment to a fight for civil rights. and it's an intergenerational one, so there are young people here talking about environmental justice and climate change. and there are elders here who were here 60 years ago. at a time many of them were kids, who were on their parents shoulders or standing up on walls, trying to get a glimpse of dr. king that day so that they could hear his famous i have a dream speech. i want you to take a listen to a conversation i had with one of those elders, and not only was she here 60 years ago, but she actually was present just a few blocks down the street from the bombings, the famous bombings in -- take a listen. >> i was here as a young girl, 63, many many years. my first trip to d.c.. i grew up in birmingham, alabama. and during that time, -- and went to jail, stayed in

jail. and they told us not to go to school. that they put bombs in the school. i remember some of the people that were here, and one young lady went to my school. >> it was emotional to listen to her reflect on that period of her time there, the time spent in birmingham, coming here to washington d.c.. and i asked her as well as one of her friends who was with her that day, or earlier today, what message would you have four young people who were here? some of them have been telling me that they're a little down today, that there is surprise that they're at this point in their life fighting for things that their grandparents and their parents fought for. and her message was to not give up hope, that with a power of all the people who are here, that everybody can bring change to their own local communities. and that young people need to stay the course, to remember the people who came before them and to try to carry that baton. lindsey? >> complex areva motions there. thank you so much for bringing us that interview.

just an incredible shot behind you, we appreciate it. i want to bring back in nbc news correspondent and host of the nbc -- you had quite the viewpoint from where you were as well. what are some of your takeaways here, and also what were some of the things that people were telling you as well? >> lindsey, i think one of the big takeaways, and she mentioned this, the idea of this generation coming together in a single moment. so you have elders who were here during the first march, and you have young people who i've been talking to, saying, you know what? the generation before us fought so hard, and even though some of our rights are eroding and being attacked, we want to stand up and make sure that our generation's voice is heard. but also, one young lady said, young people listen to young people. and so all i can get up and be on the stands and listened to and andrew young talk about his struggle and working side by side with dr. king, they don't necessarily -- that might not resonate with some other people.

but you hear a young person say we have to be here, and talk about what this generation is getting from the last, it's embodying dr. martin kings granddaughter. 15-year-old yolanda king. she got up on that stage and tapped into what is really a powerful force. tapping into what it needs to be a young person in this. let's take a listen. >> if i could speak to my grandfather today, i would say, i am sorry. we still have to be here, to rededicate ourselves to finishing your work. and ultimately, realizing your hidden dream. >> how long, you may ask, will it be before we get our freedom? i don't know, but truth must serve. how long, not long. because the more arc of the universe is long, but being stored justice. >> having those two, the granddaughter of dr. king and the son, saying that it's time for a generation to stand up and finish the job, and the

other saying how long, not long. and again, lifting up that phrase that we've heard time and time again, the arc of the moral universe is long but it bends towards justice. today is not just a day for many people, this is their way of showing that they truly believe in the possibilities of america. all the sides, all the failures. and every term, folks being denied access to full citizenship and rights. they still actually believe, as a matter of fact, they're demanding the promises be met. >> i loved when yolanda said, my generation will be defined by action, not apathy. just incredibly inspiring speech from all of them, but especially her. thank you so much. vice president kamala harris sat down with my colleague reverend al sharpton, who spoke at the march today. to talk about the fight for civil rights and the sense of duty she feels as one of our nation's leaders, as we march the anniversary. >> i feel a great sense of duty and responsibility. to those folks upon whose broad

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right now in florida. you're looking at a live picture from the scene, at least one person is dead after a shooting in jacksonville's westside this afternoon. there's still, as you can see, a heavy police presence there in the area. we will continue to follow all

of these developments and bring them to you as soon as we get them. back to the march on washington now, joining me right now is jonathan greenblatt, the ceo of the anti defamation -- one of today speakers. you're still there, quite an event today. your speech was very moving. one difference between today's march and the one 60 years ago is the inclusion of other minority groups. you're representing the of t defamation league, we saw features -- -- how is it important, how important is it for all communities to gather as allies in a fight like this? >> well, lindsey, i almost feel like you answered your question in as much as it is crucial for all of our communities to come together. i am proud of the fact that we had reverence and rabbis up there today. we had imam's and seeks up there today. we had a rich, diverse representation of what this country is all about. and, you know, i think about a

few years ago, there was an insurrection that started on this mall. today we had a resurrection. a resurrection of values, like decency, humanity, and respect for all people, regardless of the race, their fate, their sexual orientation, and that coming together is what it takes in order to push this country forward and achieve the dream once and for all. >> you said, instead of cancel culture, we should have a counsel culture. can you expand on that? >> right. yeah, i mean too often we allow our differences to divide us, when in fact what we need to do is when we have differences, to work to bridge them and to come together. but i think so frequently in our society, when someone makes a mistake, or has a slip of the tongue, we eject them rather than embrace them. we push them away rather than pull them in.

so cancel culture, which can happen from both sides, we need to tamp down on that and amp up the counsel culture, to educate, to enlighten, and therefore to empower us. because again, lindsey, the only way forward in my opinion is together. >> how do you do that at a time or we have shrinking rights, more voting restrictions, anti-trans bills? >> yeah. these issues are hard. and we have got to ask our politicians to dig deep, and evoke our better angels, rather than our worst impulses. look, at the end of the day, this march as the rev said, as morton said, wasn't a commemoration, it is a continuation. and what we should realize is those hard fought gains that

people marched for, that people blood for, that people sacrificed their lives for six decades ago, we stand to lose if we don't roll up our sleeves and recommit ourselves to this fight. because whether it's about voting rights, whether it's about to love who we want, to pray where we want, to identify how we want, again, those maybe god given rights. but they will be removed if we don't steal ourselves from the fight. and that requires christians and jews, blacks and whites, people of all persuasion, again, to dig deep, to double down, and to march forward. that's ultimately what it's about. >> i'm curious what you thought about some of the themes of the yolanda rené king speech. the only grandchild of martin luther king, only 15 years old. what struck me as the confluence of issues. it's not even just about civil rights anymore, she -- folded gun violence into the fold. she folded climate change into what she wants to see, and

trying to galvanize her generation. let's take that to you. >> boy, yolanda is an incredible young woman. i mean, i know her last name is king, but she is truly a queen. and what she did up there, as you said, threaded together the issues, reminds us that we don't just have intersectional identities. we have intersectional challenges. which is why, again, we should put aside politics, and focus on core principles. so, look. we need to remind the world that white supremacists, radical extremists, hardened anti zionists, these are not who represent us, and we need to push back on the kind of prejudice, the kind of hates that these people a spouse. and as you want to did today, so beautifully, so eloquently, in the tradition of martin luther king junior and caretta

scott king did, and move forward. >> we certainly appreciate you staying, especially on a 90-degree day. thank you so much, appreciate your time. that wraps it up for me this hour, i'm lindsey reiser, i'll be back tomorrow at two pm eastern. simone starts right now. >> >> greetings everyone, you are watching symone. fulton county district attorney fani willis has done what no other person in this country has ever been able to do. hold a former president to a new level of accountability for his actions. in donald trump's case, in this image, a mugshot. like any other criminal defendant would have, for his attempts to overturn the 2020 presidential election. we're laying out what happens now for donald trump and his 18 codefendants. plus, new polling suggests donald trump's four indictments are weighing heavily on voters minds. but when it comes to whether his presidential primary opponents care about his phony charges and commit to -- all of them say they'll stick by him.