forward. >> we certainly appreciate you staying, especially on a 90-degree day. thank you so much, appreciate your time. that wraps it up for me this hour, i'm lindsey reiser, i'll be back tomorrow at two pm eastern. simone starts right now. >> >> greetings everyone, you are watching symone. fulton county district attorney fani willis has done what no other person in this country has ever been able to do. hold a former president to a new level of accountability for his actions. in donald trump's case, in this image, a mugshot. like any other criminal defendant would have, for his attempts to overturn the 2020 presidential election. we're laying out what happens now for donald trump and his 18 codefendants. plus, new polling suggests donald trump's four indictments are weighing heavily on voters minds. but when it comes to whether his presidential primary opponents care about his phony charges and commit to -- all of them say they'll stick by him. and 60 years ago, hundreds of

thousands of people joined the march on washington for jobs, justice, and freedom. today people gathered on the national mall to say this is not a commemoration, but a continuation of that very fight. i am simone sanders townsend, and i have something to say. and i have something to say. this week, the world laid eyes on something we've never seen before. the mugshot of a former american president. former president donald j trump turned himself into fulton county jail on thursday. 's -- relating to his efforts to overturn the 2020 election in georgia. in addition to having his mugshot taken, his fingerprinted, he was issued an identification number. and he was released on a 200,000 dollar bond.

within hours, the image was broadcast across television, across social media, it was in blazed into t-shirts and even coffee mugs. it was splashed across the front pages of the world's leading newspapers. and that's because the image on your screen right now, this isn't just a picture. it's not just a monumental moment in history. this mugshot is an embodiment of the american principal that no one is above the law. even a onetime occupant of 1600 pennsylvania avenue, even donald trump. folks, this is what accountability looks like. it's the product of an investigation spearheaded by fulton county district attorney fani willis, spending more than two years. now, donald trump says he's done nothing wrong, but fulton county sheriff pet law bat was adamant that no one would get special treatment. to be prepared for the indictment to come down, he had this to say. he said we are following or normal practices, and so it doesn't matter your status, will have the mugshot ready for

you. another unforgettable image this week, what we saw on the republican presidential debate stage. now, though donald trump skipped the event, the majority of the republican candidates still pledged to support him if he wins the nomination, even if he's campaigning as a convicted criminal. >> if former president trump is convicted in a court of law, would you still support him as your party's choice. please raise your hand if you would. >> [screaming] >>. ,. and unindicted coconspirators. and that specifically includes

posts on social media. the 18 codefendants also voluntarily surrendered this week, and all but one was released on bail. harrison floyd, he remains in fulton county jail, because he is considered a flight risk. the judge also says one of the reasons that she was denying him bond on friday was a pending case for allegedly assaulting a federal officer earlier this year. the arraignment is scheduled for september 5th. two of the codefendants, though, have already filed speedy trial motions. sydney powell requested an expedited proceeding friday evening, the judge had already fast-tracked kenneth chesebro's trial. fani willis october 23rd of 20 -- to begin the trial for all 19 defendants in response to chesebro's demand. but, the judge only scheduled cheeseborough's trial to begin that particular day. and today, an attorney for john eastman tells nbc news it's likely he will also ask for a

speedy trial as well. as a result, former president donald trump's new lawyer, he moved to sever donald trump's case from the other defendants. that may not be the only -- in fani willis's plan to try all dependents together. because on monday, a hearing will take place in mark meadows petition to move his case in georgia to federal course. jeffrey clark and david schaffer have filed similar petitions. then, also on monday, in washington d.c., a hearing in the federal election interference case against donald trump, judge catoctin is expected to set a trial date. no jack smith's team has proposed january 2nd 2024, donald trump's lawyer countered with april 2026, which is long after the 2024 election. joining me now, former federal prosecutor and msnbc legal analyst. greg bluestein it is also here. he's a reporter for the atlanta journal-constitution, and an msnbc contributor. greg, can i just say that this was -- what a week.

this was an instantly historic moment, particularly in georgia, where we saw the mugshot. it's the first time there's a mugshot that's been taken of a former president ever. and the first time that donald trump has had a mugshot in all of his four indictments. and in true trump faction, trump is now selling merch emblazoned with the image on it. can you tell us what is the temperature currently in the state and how is d.a. willis's office preparing for the coming days and weeks? >> yeah, what a week is an understatement. the temperature here is tense. you know, voters here have been used to the spotlight for years now, because we were a battleground state in 2020, runoffs of 2021. of course, last year's midterm elections. but we're not used to this. there's no precedent for the trial of the century, the trial of the centuries here in georgia. like we expected to, perhaps within the next few months.

but, to us, this mugshot, folks around georgia, they're seen as a political war shock test. this embodies the spirit of donald trump's fighting back against what he sees as a corrupt justice system. others are disgusted by it. and then there's a lot of middle of the road voters who might have voted republican down the ticket last year, who won't be able to stomach voting for donald trump again next year. >> now, cynthia, trump's bond agreement, it included many stipulations about his conduct that are not included in other defendants bond agreements. so, is it safe to say that fani willis has presumably seen donald trump's conduct in some of these other cases, and she wanted to get ahead of it? >> sure. i mean, she has put a lot of special consider -- all options in it and thinks he's not a lot to do on social media. but remember, on monday, he's in front of judge chutkan, who's been very tough with him about what he can and cannot

do. and since she told him that he cannot affect the trial, he has told the witness not to try to step forward in the grand jury and testify, he has attacked the prosecutors and called them thugs, and he is criticized a judge in d.c.. so, we're going to get a preview on how tough the federal judge in d.c. is going to be on this social media presence of trump monday morning, about ten a.m.. >> and what do you think judge truck and is going to do? if you had to guess, one could argue that donald trump has crossed the line that she drew in the sand. >> well, it's only a matter of time until he completely crosses it, jumps over, and rules in the mud. he is incapable of controlling himself when he gets under pressure. at some point, you would say a normal person would be put in the back in cuffs, and eating cheese sandwiches. that's what would happen to a normal defendant. but it's hard to do that with a man who is running for president. so i would guess she is going to do what she threatened to do,

which is if he continues to behave this way, she's going to move the trial up as quickly as possible, so that he has less time to take the jury pool. and we will see a trial much sooner than trump wants. >> so, greg, in the georgia case, donald trump shook up his legal team just ahead of his surrender on thursday. what can you tell us about his new attorney, steven sadow? >> yeah, steven sadow is a veteran criminal defense attorney. he is an expert in rico as well. he's handled several cases involving defendants who were charged with rico conspiracy charges, and helped try to sever them from the barr case or remove them entirely. he is also handled a lot of high-profile cases, involving big name celebrities. so he is used to the spotlight, although no one is used to the spot like he's about to get as the defendant, the attorney defending the most high-profile client in criminal trial history here in georgia. >> so, in this georgia case,

fani willis, i think a lot of folks doubted if she was really ready to go to trial, and fani willis said herself -- october, this particular year, 2023, to try all 19 codefendants. the judge said, okay, we can do chesbro, but that's the only one we're moving forward with right now. now you've got sydney powell, and now you've got potentially john eastman, also looking to have speedy trials. is there an advantage here for them, cynthia? a disadvantage for the district attorney's office? break this down for folks at home. >> okay, well first of all, when chesbro asked for the quick trial by himself, that was pretty much an advantage for him. because he's really putting the pressure on fani willis's office. are you really ready to go to trial? and if you only have one defendant in a courtroom and you had 18 people not in the courtroom, she's broken spent

his whole time saying it wasn't me, it was those other 18. they're not here. that would be a big advantage for him. but then what happened was a crazy woman joined him, sydney powell, and now john eastman. now he can't really blame them without them blaming him back, and it becomes much more complicated. and after all, sydney powell is sort of the spawn of the conspiracy that he began with his memos. so it's much more difficult for him now that these three have joined in. i would also expect, if the removal motion for some of the people, if it is denied and they have to stay in state court, we may even get more than a three. now, when it comes to looking at it from trump's point of view, it's a huge bonus for him. because he can see exactly what fani willis's case is against the witnesses testifying in advance in their transcripts. and they can use those transcripts in any later trial when he has to do the cross-examination. that's good for him. what's bad for him is that if chesbro and all these others

are convicted, what's going to happen is whoever isn't in the trial is going to roll and they're going to flip like dominoes, and testify against him. so there's a lot of moves happening on this chessboard right now, and we'll see who actually goes to trial in october. >> so, greg, this isn't funny will says first time trying a racketeering case. a lot of folks have pointed to her successful 2015 racketeering case against teachers, more recently he had the sweeping repo case that she brought against rapper young thug, as an example for what can happen next in this election interference case. people pointing to that. what can we learn from those cases, as we look to the next coming weeks and months? >> yeah, a couple of things to know about fani willis. she's prosecuted teachers, street gangs, murderers, she took on her longtime boss in 2020. and she won by a huge margin. she is someone who is an expert in rico charges. you mentioned helping bring down this massive atlanta

public school cheating scandal, and one of her first steps after she won the 2020 election was too -- suddenly she gets word of this broad raffensperger call, between donald trump and brad raffensperger, and she looks up brad raffensperger just in case she did live in fulton county. -- and she says i'm bringing this one forward to. and so she is not a verse to tough challenges, and i think the notion from some of the trump allies, that she wouldn't be ready for this? she spent two plus years a special grand jury that spent months investigating this case, talk to 75 plus witnesses, so she probably has a mountain of discovery and investigative documents ready to bring this to trial. >> all right, we'll be watching. greg bluestein, thank. you cynthia alksne, thank you. up next, folks, young republicans, they are waking up to the threat of climate change. but you wouldn't know that from watching wednesday's republican primary debate. our political panel will be here to break down who had a

good night, and who didn't. plus, marking 60 years since the first march on washington, right here in washington, d.c., there's still so much work to do to achieve -- dr. reverend martin luther king's dream with the speakers. today's march -- the concerns on the priorities of today's young people. but first, aaron overnight is here to take a look at today's other top news stories. what is going on out there, erin? >> thank simone. unfortunately we start with some sad news in the entertainment world. bob barker, the longtime legendary host of the price is right has died. barker hosted the show for 35 years, from 19 72 to 2007, before his retirement at the age of 83. his 50 years in the business earned him 19 emmys, and a beloved reputation as an animal rights advocates. he was 90 90 years old. what a career. the president of the spanish soccer federation says he will legally defend himself after fifa suspended him for 90 days,

after one of the team's star players accused him of kissing her without her consent. it happened during the celebration of the team's recent world cup victory. louise ruby alice says the case he gave jennifer hermoso was spontaneous and consensual. and he has refused to resign. and an update for those maui wildfires. officials reported more than 100 people safe in the weeks after those fires, which are now the deadliest in modern american history. officials also released the names of 380 people still missing, and set it could take days or weeks to determine their well-being. the fires have killed at least 115 people. we will have more simone for you, right after the break. you, right after the break you, right after the break

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the environment. that's according to a gala poll conducted last year. now, i have to say this much after watching the first republican debate. you really have to wonder if those voters are feeling ignored. let me tell you why. one republican asked the candidates what they would do to calm fears that republicans aren't concerned about the climate crisis. the contenders for the republican nomination either passed the back to other countries, or denied the threat altogether. >> the climate change agenda -- the climate change agenda is a hoax. >> is climate change real? yes it is. but if you want to go and really change the environment, then we need to start telling china and india that they have to lower their emissions. >> america has kept our carbon footprint in half in the last 25 years. the places where they are continuing to increase, africa, 950 million people. india, over a billion. china, over a billion. why put ourselves at a disadvantage, devastating our

own economy? >> so, all the republican candidates for president just flat out the missing young voters? or are they misreading the temperature of their own party? my political panel joins me now to discuss. tara palmeri is a senior political correspondent for pub news. and i do believe she's the host of a brand-new podcast that just launched this week. >> shermichael singleton is a political strategist, and sirius xm host, and former secretary of housing and urban development julian castro is here. he's an msnbc political analyst and a 2020 democratic presidential candidate. welcome to you all. shermichael, i'm going to start with you. because, is the candidates this avoidance of the climate change question part of the reason why they're struggling with the -- the party is struggling with young voters? because that was originally a raise your hand question. and ron desantis kind of lead the way in shutting down the

moderates. >> he was smart, because i'm not exactly sure if any of the candidates would've had a proper response to the young guys question. but here's the issue. i read the tabulations of that, and the reality is well voters like us in general to care about the climate, the republican base for the most part is older. and when you look at the data, 55 and older, and their position on climate change, i think it's like 13% or 20%. it's not a significant margin. and one thing the republicans understand very well is that older -- older voters will absolutely turn up consistently when needed. younger voters can be a hit or miss, as many of the candidates had in mind. >> secretary castro, let me bring you in here. because you've been on the debate stage, and also i wanted to make the argument that older voters are also more reliable democratic voters as well. but, young people have been turning up and turning out to vote. from 2018, they made a difference. in 2020, they made a difference. in 2022, they made a difference. so, do you think that candidates missed the

opportunity, and i would love -- if you could tell us how you feel about these raise your hand questions. >> well, i hate those razor-thin questions. that may be the only thing that i agree with, that they said that. i mean, simone, what i saw the lineup there, just looking at it, i thought wow, the republican party has quite an opportunity to appeal to younger people, especially because you look at their crowd there and it's diverse. you've got tim scott, you've got ramaswamy, you've got nikki haley, a variety of voices. and then they start talking and they want to take america into the past in a way that is completely anathema to young people. they're talking about climate change is a hoax, a national abortion ban, they don't even agree with things like the chips bill that would infuse america with more manufacturing, and are willing to pick on and bully transgender people, so everything that young people stand against, here's why it's important. because in 2020, the last presidential election, by one

estimate, youth turnout was 50%. that was a near record high. it went from 39% in 2016 to 50% in 2020. that matters when we're talking about margins of 11,000 votes in georgia, a few thousand votes in arizona, a few thousand votes in some other states. and it's probably going to matter again. that means that democrats have a great opportunity here, joe biden has a great opportunity, to do the opposite. to put forward a future looking vision that invests in combatting climate change. that says everybody is going to be treated equally, that says a woman is going to have a right to choose. those things that young people are for instead of against. >> so, tara, you were at the debate on wednesday. i have seen some folks in the aftermath of the debate arguing -- or asserting that desantis failed to deliver, and ramah some got attention but it was just over the top and he's a flash in the pan. but i personally think that for republican voters, those two candidates were actually appealing. i would love to know who you

think had a good night, and who capitalized on it throughout the rest of the week. >> yeah, i mean, to me ramaswamy had the best night because the expectations were so low and the fact that he was able to really dominate the stage and hog the spotlight in a way that would elevate himself to the level of mike pence as the former president. it was remarkable night for some that a year ago you and i would be like, vivek ramaswamy? who is the? the fact that he is even 30 years old, never held office, on the debate stage, speaking more than the former vice president or about the same amount? and somehow inserting himself in every single issue and fight? from just a base performance level, i think he had a good night. now, his policies are being picked apart and they're going to continue to be picked apart, because a lot of them were not based in any truth. and you're going to continue to see that. even the wall street journal had an op-ed saying that all of his foreign policy is based --

is not actually rooted and any reality. and i think reporters are going to take him more seriously, and they have been. now rhonda scent just, we've been taking him very seriously. he's been the second front runner, because trump has been far ahead of all of them. and there were high expectations for ron desantis. he wasn't attacked, which actually i think was to his detriment. because it made him seem kind of not that important. >> really? really? shermichael is sitting here nodding along with you. really? shermichael, do you agree? do you think he fell short? >> i mean, i think he fell short so much. but if you look at iowa voters in particular, this poll came out two days ago, more of them are now open to desantis than they were a week ago. and that is really important, because donald trump standing in iowa is not as strong as his national standing is in republican -- >> you win a primary -- >> you know how i feel about him. he does not know what he's

talking about. and those of us in the press need to stop giving this guy attention. these are serious issues with significant implications for the country and our global community. so, you know this. we've got to stop giving this guy the attention, as if he knows what he's talking about. he's throwing anything out. >> okay, let's talk about this for a second. go say it, because that's what i was about to say. >> also, you know who else didn't know what he was talking about and got a lot of attention? donald trump. he -- yeah, he was. he was trump. trump wasn't on the stage, and vivek ramaswamy was. and i think he highlighted what the other candidates lack, and they lack the charisma to take on trump. because if they're having vivek run the show, they can't be on the stage with trump. he's going to run the show. that's all i got. nikki haley had strength, a strong point, the margaret thatcher line was really powerful. which shut down vivek ramaswamy. she can go on the stage and shut down from, we shall see.

maybe she will -- i don't see what ron desantis being able to shut down trump. i don't see mike pence -- they weren't able to shut down vivek ramaswamy. i don't know, that's my thought. >> i agree with you. speaking of nikki haley, i want to play some of nikki haley's response to a question about abortion. i want you all to listen to this and we will talk on the other side. >> i am unapologetically pro-life. this is talking about the fact that unelected justices didn't need to decide something just personnel. it is in the hands of the people and that's where it should be but you're talking about a federal ban, be honest with the american people. we have had 45 pro-life senators in over 100 years. so no republican president can't ban abortions any more than a democrat president can't ban all those state laws. >> a lot of people have been given a lot of -- but that answer sounded like three different actual positions to me and this past april, former governor healey says that she will address

abortion openly. does she have a clear enough stance here? >> not at all, simone. i couldn't make heads or tails by the end of her answer where she stood. she got into it like heads, and she seemed to be arguing against the national abortion ban, but saying that she's unapologetically pro-life, and at one point put it in the peoples hands. so, there was not a clear statement there about where she stands on abortion. and that's because all of these candidates, including nikki haley, really don't want to talk about it. they realize that even a lot of republicans who are going to be voting in these republican primaries and caucuses do not agree with their stance on abortion. much less, americans who are democrats or independents, or even republican-leaning independents. they know they're in trouble. they don't want to talk about it, and they get into word salads when they start talking about it like she did there. >> right after the debate, it

felt like it was immediately out with the ad that contrasted joe biden's stance on abortion with the republican candidates who have called for a federal ban. and then, vice president harris released a statement, and this is what it said. it said in part that no one on stage one tonight's debate. instead, the american people heard how much they stand to lose from an extremist agenda. abortion is going to be a key issue in this upcoming election. and i think that democrats are framing the issue as a matter of freedom, well some republican candidates aren't willing to bullet the prospect of forcing for -- babies by their rapists. shermichael, how are republicans going to survive with this election season if they are willing to have a real conversation? >> if abortion is a singular issue in 2024, republicans will lose. think about kansas. 14 counties in the state of kansas that voted for donald trump in 2020, voted with democrats to defeat an abortion ballot. think about wisconsin, with --

against dan kelly. state supreme court. she beat him. across the country, it's not just democratic voters. it's not just independent voters, it's republican voters. they're saying, wait a minute, this is too extreme. this is too far. if democrats make this about freedom, it's incredibly smart for the white house, the win. >> there we go. we'll have to leave it there. i shermichael singleton, former secretary julian castro, and tara palmeri, thank you all for being here. you go out and check out tara's new podcast. up next, 60 years after reverent dr. martha -- iconic i have a dream speech. what we're hearing from today's speakers at the march on washington about continuing the work that dr. king and so many activists champion. don't go away. don't go away. ke the subway series menu. buy one footlong in the app, get one free. for freeee. that's what i'm talking about. order in the subway app today. (fan #1) there ya go!

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are impacting our life today. >> i think it is an important, very, very important time for us to be having this conversation. you know the organizers of the march 4th or a clear, 60 years later, the work has to continue. the 1963 march was unit literate walter luther and he looked at the dangers of failure in this way. i want to play for you. >> if we file, then the vacuum of our failure will be filled by the apostles of hatred who will search in the dark of night, and reason will yield to riot, and brotherhood will yield to burn us and bloodshed, and we will tear asunder the fabric of american democracy. >> it feels like hey predicted they divide that we currently find ourselves facing, right here in 23. democracy is at stake, as we speak. how do we confront this movement?

how do we take our place and carry the baton forward in the face of everything that has happened? >> i think we have to continue fighting for democracy. young people have the tools, techniques, tactics to really address these issues. as we have been preparing for this march, there have been attacks on our schools, our education, our history. it is really important for us to be quick to address these issues. we have elections happening this year, and in with this with a full, and it's about putting a price for those who will address issues. gonna be a whole new set of first-time voters in 2020. full gen z is rising. gen z and millennials are the largest living block in america today. what happens when you focus the peril? what happens when you come together and really address the issues that are present in our community today? everything from environment and resistant to student. it there are solutions for not now, but for a future. >> you have been very vocal about the student debt issue, as has the naacp. you have actually called for

cancellation, you have called for the administration to get more. are you all pleased with what you saw from the administration this week with the save repayment plan that was rolled out? >> it is important for us to educate our members about all the different pathways and recognizing the 800,000 votes who are seeing condition happen are seeing a transformation happening like no other. we want to mention that exists for everybody. we want to say the most amount of powers to the most amount of debt canceled for them. we have the opportunity to start their lives, but come home owners, because owners, and it is more so it really about inducing the racial wealth gap in america today. our goal is to keep the administration accountable, continue pushing for this campaign to ensure we get the lift that is needed. >> wisdom, we have to go. but there is not a major movement happened in this country without young people at the forefront. and it always strikes me, reverend sharpton was a young person when he got involved in the sport. he always mixture, as young people, we are at the front

knot on the side not in the back and i was happy to see you at the front today. >> exactly, young people are at the forefront of this movement. without us, the movement will die. let's continue working with young people, making sure they have the resources to access and necessary to do the work today. >> thank you for being here, wisdom cole, youth and college director of the naacp. thank you. coming up, we will have some breaking news about an unfortunate and for a deadly shooting and jacksonville, florida. the mayor's office confirms multiple people have been killed. we'll be right back. right back. guys, c'mon! mom, c'mon! mia! [ engine revving ] ♪ ♪ my favorite color is... because, it's like a family thing! [ engine revving ] ♪ ♪ made it! mom! leave running behind, behind. the new turbocharged volkswagen atlas. does life beautifully.

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supreme court deemed unconstitutional. the majority opinion written by the sole female justice on the court. hurt mandatory retirement left the state with an all male bench. and this past week, that court upheld a new six-week abortion ban, passed by that 86% male legislature. in his majority opinion, justice john kittredge apologist at the ban infringes on women's right to privacy. but right, the little teacher has been a policy determination that at a certain point in the park and see a woman's interest in autonomy and privacy it does not outweigh the interest of the unborn child to live. this is adding to the millions of women across the south we have to travel out of state to secure an abortion. joining me now, our two state senators from south carolina, margie bright and mia mcleod. senator roy matthews, before we get to the news of south carolina, i'm wondering if you could respond to another afternoon of breaking news gun

violence? >> thank you for having me. it same's like our little flicker in south carolina, i think they are going to take up, come january, is they want to expand access to guns in south carolina. so normal republican playbook, catering to the nra and forget the rest of us. this is unfortunate. i can only shake my head as i look at jacksonville and what we're having to go through now. >> senator mcleod, how do you plan to fight what senator bright matthews just mentioned, the love just lycian expected to come at the top of they looked elusive here on guns, as well as this current legislation and now the state supreme court has said is going to be able to go forward? >> thank you for having us, simone. what we are seeing and

jacksonville is just a glimpse of what we're going to continue to see, as my sister senator margie bright matthews just said. that is probably for a stop on the republicans agenda when we go back in january. and it is a sad commentary on our state. and our states leaders. when the supreme court issued what i considered to be a stunning reversal, when i think about the fact that they just ruled in january that this six-week abortion ban was unconstitutional, and so to come back seven months later is unprecedented, but it also shows how politicized and how weaponized our judicial system has become under this republican party. >> i just really encourage people to break the majority

opinion in this particular ruling, because it is stunning. it is stunning the way in which the justice talks about women. senator brad matthews, there is going to be, i have to imagine, and economic impact due to this pant. what will the economic impact be in south carolina? >> it's going to be astronomical. first of all, you realize south carolina has not expand medicaid. economic aspect is going to be phenomenal. there are sources of planned parenthood are going to be affected. not only to mention the fact that in years past, since i've been in the senate, they have tried to deny young women access to simple reproduction health care, such as birth control, plan b, all of those things. now, we are going to be affected. i don't know where young women and our state are going to go to get health care that they need. >> and the time that i have

left, senator mcleod, what is your message to the women in south carolina right now? what do that need to know to protect their reproductive autonomy, their access to health care? >> my message is simple. engage at a higher level. no this republican dominated, mile control legislature is doing to your rights and vote them out. we are going to be very intentional about guessing this issue on the ballot. through a constitutional amendment. it is an uphill battle, yes, but it is one worth fighting. and we're going to continue to fight, to make sure that south carolina's women and girls have a fighting chance in the state. as senator bright matthews just said, we have used consistently to expand medicaid and ob/gyn,

health care practitioners are leaving our state and droves and will continue. it is going to have a severe, and significant, economic impact. and an impact on our overall health care. particularly in the rural communities. >> yes. >> stealth carolina state senators margie bright matthews and mia mcleod, thank you both very much. and thank you at home for watching symone on this sunday. i'm symone sanders-townsend. we will be following that breaking news on the deadly shooting in jacksonville and the next hour, here on msnbc. we're going to bring you updates as we get them. politicsnation with the great reverend al sharpton is next. he will be following that news, and he also has an exclusive interview with vice president kamala harris, talking about the fight for civil rights still taking place on the 60th anniversary of the march on washington. all this news is coming up, right after a short break. ght after a short break. it's not just designed to look good... it's built to command attention.

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