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ahead. also in florida, we're learning new details about a shooting in jacksonville that left three people dead in what police are calling a racist attack. we'll bring you an update on the community and what comes next. and 60 years after martin luther king jr. delivered his famous "i have a dream" speech during the march on washington, we look at what his legacy means today. ♪♪ >> and we begin with two high stakes hearings underway right now that could potentially determine the course of two of the cases against former president donald trump. in atlanta, a federal judge is holding a hearing on a motion by former white house chief of staff mark meadows to remove his case from state court and send it to federal court. fulton county district attorney fani willis is expected to use this hearing to lay out some of her case against trump and his 18 co-defendants all accused of

conspiring to overturn trump's 2020 election loss in georgia. she has subpoenaed key witnesses to testify including georgia's secretary of state brad raffensperger. this comes as we learn that trump and his 18 co-defendants in georgia will be arraigned on the 6th of september. meantime, in washington, d.c., a federal judge there is holding a hearing in special counsel jack smith's federal election interference case. the judge is expected to set a trial date there. prosecutors are pushing for a january 2024 trial while trump's legal team is hoping to hold off until april of 2026. trump himself isnot present at today's hearing. with us to talk more about this is blayne alexander outside the federal courthouse in atlanta and nbc news justice and intelligence correspondent ken dilanian outside the federal courthouse in washington. what's the latest on the hearing taking place where you are? >> reporter: jose, judge tanya chutkan has not yet set a trial

date in this case, but she's made clear that april 2026, which was the trump team's proposal is out. that is not happening. she made that very clear. she also said this she's not inclined to grant the special counsel's request to move forward with the january of next year trial date. she really had very little patience for donald trump's lawyer john lauro arguing there was an enormous amount of discovery in this case. she kept pressing him to give a reasonable amount of time. she said april of 2026, not happening. she said give me your actual drop dead, he wouldn't do it and the special counsel attorney, molly gaston got up. i want to read what she said because it was remarkable. she said on a near daily basis, the defendant, donald trump posts on social media about this case. he's publicly disparaged witnesses. he's attacked the integrity of the court and the citizens of the district of columbia that make up the jury pool. under the speedy trial act, your

honor, she said we need to find a time for trial as soon as the defense can reasonably be ready. she said there's a public interest in getting this case to trial as quickly as possible, and the judge agreed about that. the judge said that the speedy trial act doesn't just guarantee the defendant a right to a speedy trial, it guarantees the public the right to a speedy trial. and in terms of the trump attorney's argument that donald trump, because he was the president deserves a special consideration, she said absolutely not. he will get no more or no less deference than any other defendant, and trump's attorney john lauro responded that in the coming weeks he's going to file a motion arguing that mr. trump is immune from these charges because he was acting under his presidential authority, and that's something that's going to have to be litigated. that's a preview of things to come. for now, jose, we're expecting momentarily to hear judge tanya chutkan's idea of when she thinks this case could go to trial. reading the tea leaves, it appears that it's reasonable to think that she might set a trial

date in the spring or the summer of next year, jose. >> from washington, d.c., let's head on down to atlanta. blayne, what's the latest we're learning there at the courthouse where you are? >> reporter: well, jose, we know that this hearing has been underway just a little more than an hour, and as of about 15 minutes ago or so we understand that former white house chief of staff mark meadows himself is on the testifying in this federal courtroom. tremendous thanks to our producer diane morales who's in the overflow room ran out to tell me meadows is testifying. what he's doing is he's talking about his duties as chief of staff. he said how it was a 24 hours seven day a week job. something that was not a typical 9:00 to 5:00. he talked about the fact that he received any number of briefings throughout the day and he described himself as a personal assistant to former president

donald trump. what was also interesting who we understand is in the courtroom or the overflow room listening to and watching this hearing unfold. one of the people spotted was jennifer little, an attorney and member of former president trump's legal team down here in florida. that's notable. several people, about five people have made motions, have tried to get the charges moved, to get the case moved from state court to federal court. the former president right now is not one of them. the fact that one of his attorneys is present in the room, is watching these proceedings certainly shows that they're watching it very closely, and we could see a similar filing to come from the former president, jose. >> and so blayne, we also learned that trump and his co-defendants will be arraigned on the 6th of september. what does this mean? or will you be seeing donald trump back in court again? >> reporter: all of that is up in the air. here's what we know. we know that he is the first of 19. what's interesting, if you look at this list, jose it's kind of stunning when you see they are named in almost 15 minute

increments starting at 9:30 a.m. and going through the better part of the day, you're talking about back to back to back these defendants are supposed to be coming in front of jauj. we don't know if it's going to be all in person. we don't know if there's going to be some sort of virtual component as had been told to us before that that was an option on the table. and then of course the defendants could choose to waive their appearance altogether. certainly could be a very interesting patchwork. one thing we know is that september 6th is going to shape up to be a very busy day down in fulton county. >> blayne alexander and ken dilanian, thank you both so very much. with us now to take a closer look at this, a former federal prosecutor and a contributing writer for "politico" magazine, and catherine christian, a former manhattan assistant district attorney and an msnbc legal analyst. how significant is it that someone like georgia's secretary of state brad raffensperger is being called to testify? >> well, now that mark meadows

is testifying, which i find very interesting, but basically that's his only chance of winning the motion is speaking under oath and having the judge judge his credibility. the problem is he's now going to be subject to cross examination. the secretary of state and the secretary of state's chief investigator, ms. watson, are also testifying. so what will be interesting, we know the acts that mark meadows allegedly committed in front a conspiracy that are listed in the indictment. how much evidence will come out of the mouths of the secretary of state and the chief investigator that's not in the indictment? and also, now that mr. meadows is testifying, how much evidence will they now present that will rebut whatever testimony he's going to present. it's very important that they testify to show that he was operating not like a white house chief of staff but as a political operative, which is what the d.a. willis is saying, that is not white house chief of

staff duty, that is violation of the hatch act which prohibits partisan political activity on behalf of white house staff. it's going to be a very interesting day. >> chris, what is meadows best argument for removing his case from state court and sending it over to federal court? >> well, he needs to establish that the conduct that's at issue in the case concerns his official government job duties, and this san area of the law that's pretty untested, so it's very hard to predict how it will be resolved at the en of the day. it seems like a tenuous argument at least intuitively. i imagine one of the questions he'll be asked on cross examination -- and i share catherine's fascination with the fact that he's testifying really -- will be, you know, however other than the call to raffensperger call that we all heard did he have cause to do any kind of work with the georgia secretary of state as chief of staff? to most of us that seems out of

the portfolio of duties for a chief of staff. he's now claiming that it is within those duties, and that's going to be tested pretty aggressively i would imagine at this hearing. >> yeah, four other people are trying also to do the same things meadows is doing. what would a victory or not by meadows mean for them and their case? >> well, the other four, quite frankly, have zero chance. one is jeffrey clark who was in doj in the civil division doing environmental law. so how he could say that what he did is part of, you know, trying to allegedly overturn the election had any semblance of reality in terms of his job, i don't see him winning. and the other three weren't even federal officials. they were fake electors. they are saying -- and i'm sure the d.a. loves this, she probably doesn't like lit litigating this -- they're arguing that they were his

agent, and because they were the agent of donald trump who was the president, their case should be removed. that's a loser, but i think the d.a. is happy they submitted these motions because they are three people who are saying donald trump made me do what i did. that's very helpful to the d.a. >> and of course turning back to the federal election interference case we were talking with ken about, prosecutors there are pushing for a january 2nd trial. trump's team wants to hold off until april 2026, the judge has signaled she doesn't support either date. what do you think we should expect there? >> well, i would expect to see some sort of splitting of the difference. but april 2026 is absurd in my estimation. i think there is a significant public -- to have this case go to trial before next november if at all possible, with an appropriate amount of buff space, with pretrial preparation and before the election. i worked on a piece reporting poll results at "politico" that found that about 60% of the

public wants to see the federal january 6th case go to trial before next november. i mean this is information that people want, in my opinion they deserve to know the outcome of this case before they potentially are being asked to send him back to the white house. but this is a tricky, tricky calendar with these other trials on the calendar, the political calendar overlapping. i sympathize with judge chutkan here trying to navigate this complicated set of issues. >> yeah, how does a judge navigate that very difficult circumstance of the scheduling, et cetera? what goes into the judge's thinking when it comes to setting a trial date? >> well, in this case from what the reporting is, donald trump's attorneys are not budging from that april 2026 date, and it is an absurd date, and to not budge from it, you just basically lose all credibility with the judge. so she's giving them opportunity, they're not budging. she's going to make the decision herself. i agree with her that january

2nd, 2024 is not an acceptable date. i've had attorneys say it is. i've tried many cases. i never selected a jury, even on the lowest level felony, five months after arraignment. january 2nd is not an acceptable date. so she will pick a spring or june date. first of all, there's nothing unethical, unusual for judges to speak to each other about scheduling, so there could be a conversation that she will have with judge cannon and the manhattan state judge in fulton county so that they can sort of work that out and come up with a date. i do think despite, you know, fulton county date being in october, the january 6th special counsel trial probably will be the one trial that will go before the election. >> so catherine just thinking on your experience and ankush, i want to get your reaction as well, when you look back in your

experience, what are the most important mitigating factors that a judge takes into consideration when -- and again, we're in totally uncharted waters on this, but what are some of the biggest things that a judge takes into consideration? >> the complexity of the case. i don't want to step on how complex the case is, what other matters that, you know -- and these defense attorneys from my understanding, this is basically their client, this is it for them. they don't have other matters. so she's going to look at that, she has said -- and i'm talking about judge chutkan -- that the fact that he was a former president is irrelevant, his campaign is irrelevant. i believe the reporting said she could have made it a comparison to an athlete. she wouldn't say for a professional baseball player, okay, you have spring training that begins in february, and if you have the world series, that's going to go to november, so basically the whole year is out. so no, he's not going to get,

you know, that he's former president running for a president again, you know. but she will make sure -- and judges try to make sure that the defense has a fair and adequate time to prepare. that's why she said january 2nd, 2024, is really not acceptable, but of course 2026 is outrageous. so she's going to look at the complexity. and also, the prosecutor has said, we provided over discovery electronically and in a way that makes it easy for the defense to find the information, much of which they already have. so she's also going to look at that and see if that's a credible statement on behalf of the special counsel. so she's going to try to be as fair as possible. >> yeah, sorry to interrupt you on, that i'm just thinking there are so many different cases, so many different attorneys, so many different legal areas of this that, ankush, all these

legal troubles, they must have a role in what the judge decides to do in each of these cases? >> yeah, i think that's right, and i agree with catherine's assessment of these issues. i think january 2nd is just way too soon. i think spring, summer would be potentially feasible. you know, and the overriding thing for the judge to consider here, trump himself needs an opportunity to prepare a fair defense. that is a really very crucial element of setting a trial date. arguably the most important element of setting a trial date in the standard cases, the defendant time to prepare with his lawyers and mount a defense. in this case there is this other interest, swirling around in chutkan's mind, the public's interest in having this case go to trial before next november. how she decides to weigh that obviously we have yet to find out, but that's a legitimately unusual, if not literally unique factor. it does not come up in most federal criminal cases as you can imagine.

>> yeah, i thank you both for being with us this morning. coming up, state of emergency as more than half of florida braces for a potential hurricane and a pretty big one. what we can expect. plus, the latest on what police are calling a hate crime shooting in jacksonville, florida, that left three people dead. we're back in 60 seconds. you're watching "josé diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. dg but with prilosec otc just one pill a day blocks heartburn for a full 24 hours. for one and done heartburn relief, prilosec otc. one pill a day, 24 hours, zero heartburn. ♪ tourists tourists that turn into scientists.

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crash. and now to more breaking news in florida, we are tracking tropical storm idalia, which is forecast to become a major hurricane later today before reaching the gulf coast of florida. it's approaching cuba where it could bring flooding and landslides across the western part of the island. it's a hurricane warning in effect. dalia is expected to become a, quote, dangerous major hurricane before making landfall in florida on wednesday morning as a cat 3 storm, according to the national hurricane center. nbc's priscilla thompson joins us from panama city, beach, and nbc meteorologist bill karins is with us as well. priscilla, what's the latest there? >> reporter: jose, the message from the governor at this point is that now is the time to act. he is urging people who are being urged to evacuate that they should do so and really

emphasizing that evacuation doesn't necessarily mean going hundreds of miles. it could mean going 10 to 50 miles just to get out of that really danger zone, that is going to be impacted, and already the governor has declared a state of emergency in some 33 counties here. he has mobilized 5,500 national guardsmen with 2,400 high water vehicles and also 12 aircraft to help with rescue and search and rescue efforts that may be needed as this storm begins to make impacts. and already across western florida we have seen businesses beginning to board up, folks beginning to fill those sandbags in order to protect their homes. there are also shelters that are opening, schools that are going to be shutting down in anticipation of this, and the governor really warning about how bad this could potentially be. take a listen to what he had to say earlier. >> this is going to be a major hurricane. this is going to be a powerful hurricane, and this is absolutely going to impact the

state of florida in many, many different ways. be prepared to lose power. this is going to come in if it's cat 3 plus, there's going to be a lot of trees that are going to get knocked down. there's going to be a lot of debris. >> reporter: and the governor says that they are prestaging tens of thousands of linemen to be able to get that power back online as soon as it is safe to do so, and one other issue that i want to point out is that over the weekend there was an issue with gas. there was widespread gas contamination in the tampa area, gas that had been accidentally mixed with diesel. we now know that that affected around 30 gas stations. the good news the governor saying it is not as widespread as they originally believed it would be. obviously incredibly devastating as folks were trying to fill up to prepare to have their generators ready to go, to prepare to evacuate. there is still gas for folks

needing it preparing for the storm. >> priscilla thompson in panama beach, thank you very much. bill, let's give us the track and all the latest if you would. >> yeah, jose, i'd be shocked by when we're done with this storm in about four days from now if we're not comparing this to, you know, charlie, wilma, mare, ian, matthew. i'm not saying it's going to be a category 5, but it could easily with a category 3 or 4, major hurricane. we're talking about entire communities that will probably be uninhabitable when this storm is gone and done. the message for people today like myself and emergency managers on the west coast of florida is let's try and save as many lives as possible and get people to evacuate that definitely need to evacuate, so you have to listen to your emergency managers. right now we're talking about pasco county and hernando county north of the tampa area. they're trying to get everyone out of zone a, if you're in rvs or mobile homes because those are places that will get you, you know, unfortunately threaten your life if you try to remain

in those structures. that's the big message today. as far as the storm and what we just learned from the hurricane center. it's not a hurricane yet. it's still in between cancun and off the western tip of cuba. the water ahead of it is extremely warm. the way i would compare this storm right now, it's a candle and about to walk into a fireworks store. the water is extremely warm if not hot on the western and eastern gulf of mexico. hottest ever recorded. not just on the surface, but the depth too. even if this storm spins and stirs up the water, it's still going to be plenty warm for this to explode. it's not guaranteed it's going to rapidly intensify to a category 4, but it's possible. so we have to get people out of the way. so as far as the forecast, right now you notice the hurricane center. they had the big bend area. this is a very swampy area, there's not a lot of population areas north of cedar key. as far as a major hurricane making landfall impacting the least number of people, this would be best case scenario. but because of that angle of approach from the south, it

won't take much of a shift to get this closer to pinellas county, closer to tampa bay and increase the storm surge areas there, and also, we have a full moon wednesday night. the high tide is already expected, it's supposed to be extremely high, the whole southeastern coast, and we're going to have a strong tropical storm or a hurricane at the same time. that's going to be a huge issue for the south carolina, georgia, and north carolina coast too. we have hurricanes from fort myers north wards, we have storm surge warnings. the biggest message is going to be that storm surge, jose. right now possibly up to 7 to 11 feet, these counties north of here. i'll give you one town that i'm worried about here, jose. crystal river only has the highest elevation of about 5 to 7 feet, and they are in the 7 to 11 foot. so those are the people that, you know, even if they're a mile or two inland, that water could easily be ten feet all the way inland. this is going to be another huge disaster that people will be

recovering for weeks. >> or months or years. i'm just wondering all of the forecast models kind of agree with this trajectory? >> yeah, there's not a lot of, you know, there's not a lot shifting saying where it's going to go. i'd say the easternmost model is still just north of the tampa area, but this water is very shallow right in here, and a storm that actually brings the highest storm surge into tampa is not a storm that comes straight into tampa. so if this thing comes in between cedar key, that will bring the -- further to the south. everyone from sarasota, tampa bay to pinellas county this could change easily. the smallest shift, it only takes a ten-mile shift, and all of a sudden we're talking 7 to 11 feet for millions of people in the tampa area. this is going to be something to watch. and jose, messaging is so hard when it's only a tropical storm, and you're trying to get people

to evacuate and listen to you. they're like it's only 65 miles per hour, but this thing is going to shoot up so quickly in the next 48 hours. hopefully a lot of people will not be surprised. >> and there's a lot of low lying areas there. it is not good to ride it out where if you're close to the beach or in low lying areas if this thing is a cat 3 or more. thank you, and of course we'll keep very close watch on this. appreciate it, bill. and to get the latest information on how to prepare for idalia, visit the florida tuition of emergency management website. it's at floridadisaster.org. you can also call 1-800-342-3557. [ speaking in a non-english language ] and turning now to an update on the aftermath of the hawaii

wildfires, search teams have now combed through 99% of the disaster area in lahaina and are heading home. maui's mayor addressed the communication breakdowns in the wildfire response telling nbc affiliate khal that serious lessons have been learned at, quote, quite an expense. and last night hawaii electric issued a statement saying their power lines to lahaina were not energized with the afternoon fire broke out on the 8th of august and had been out for more than six hours saying, quote, there was no electricity flowing through the wires in the area or anywhere else on the west maui coast. on saturday, sirens sounded through lahaina as a new brush fire scorched ten acres of land prompting authorities to evacuate residents a few miles from the site of the area ravaged by blazes in the past. the governor lifted evacuation orders hours later after the fire was contained. and we have breaking news out of the federal hearing in

d.c. concerning the special counsel case on election interference. let's get right to ken dilanian with the latest. ken. >> reporter: jose, in a stark repudiation of donald trump's attorneys, judge tanya chutkan has set a trial date for march 4th of next year in this case. that's the date jury selection would begin. that's just two months later than what the prosecution had asked for, but it's in a world away from the april 2026 time line that trump's attorneys had wanted and immediately after she made her ruling, trump attorney john lauro put on the record, he said we will not be able to provide adequate representation. there's no doubt that this trial date is inconsistent with president trump's right to due process and effective assistance of counsel so laying the groundwork for an appeal there. legal experts say this is the judge's call. this is a tough issue to get overturned in the appeals court. obviously the trump team is going to try to do that. judge tanya chutkan heard from

both sides on this hearing. she heard the trump side make am impassioned plea, there are so many witnesses and interviews, that they needed years and years to go through all this material, but the prosecution, the special counsel countered that that just wasn't the case. a lot of this evidence had already been made public in the january 6th hearings, a lot of it came from donald trump's own files and devices and were witnesses he was well familiar with and the judge flatly sided with the prosecution here, and both the prosecution and the judge said the public has an interest in seeing this case go to trial rather quickly. prosecutor molly gaston made a point of saying that donald trump tweets every day attacking people involved in this case. she pointed out attacking the people of the district of columbia which make up the jury pool, and so she said that the public had a right to see this case go to trial as quickly as possible, and judge tanya chutkan, it appears, agrees with that and has set a march 4th,

2024, trial date, jose. >> that would be day after super tuesday, i believe, so back with us is catherine christian a former manhattan district attorney and msnbc legal analyst. just your reaction to this and then the other question that ken brings up, so what is the appeals process to a decision like this, and does it have any merit? >> well, what the defense attorneys were making was a report so when the trial starts and they seem to be not ready or not productive, they will argue the reason why we were ineffective is because we were moved to trial on march 4th. this not going to fly. they have now been told on august 28th, and these attorneys are not the attorneys who are going to be on other cases. there are no other trials that donald trump will be doing before march 4th, so the manhattan d.a. case was scheduled for the end of march. clearly that's not going to go. the classified documents case was scheduled for may, so this

is before that. he's already donald trump has said, he doesn't want to go to trial in the fulton county case, despite what mr. chesebro wants in the fall, he doesn't want to go to trial there. basically mr. trump opened the door to this march 4th date. also, quite frankly, if they had given a reasonable date, april 2026 is not a reasonable date, maybe they would have received the june date, but she couldn't even listen to them anymore once they were sticking with the april 2026 date. this should give them enough time, the defense and mr. trump enough time. him saying, well, i'm going to be on the campaign, you know, i have to go give speeches, that is irrelevant. he is for the purposes of this case and the other three cases a criminal defendant. his personal, professional life will have to take a backseat to him being a criminal defendant, particularly in this case and getting ready for trial, and his attorneys will have to just put

all of their focus, they're getting paid, i assume, and give him, mr. trump, best defense they can. and they are all capable attorneys, they should be able to do it. and as special counsel said, most of this information, these witnesses, they already know about. there was a january 6th select committee hearings, they gnaw knew about that. they knew about all the tweets and social media posts, things that they received because their client sent them, so this date will stick. the only thing that will change it is obviously people get sick things happen, but this now is a much fairer date, i believe, than january 2nd, and it's a much more realistic date than april of 2026. >> and so, ken, do we expect anything out of the courthouse today where you are? >> reporter: no, i think this is it. this was the big news of the day here, jose. john lauro, trump's attorney laid the groundwork for future

motions that he's going to file that are designed to delay and bog down this process and make legal arguments for why this case shouldn't go forward. he's going to claim donald trump is covered by presidential immunity and therefore didn't commit any crimes. that's going to have to be litigated before this judge. there's some talk right now about whether -- as i'm reading the notes here -- about whether donald trump can get a fair trial in d.c. no doubt his lawyers are going to push for a change in venue. there's a lot of ancillary stuff that still has to happen -- apologies for the ambulance coming by here, and so it's possible that this date will slide a bit because there's going to be a lot of litigation in this case. but what this shows is that judge tanya chutkan wants to move this case along. we've sort of known that about her, but she made it starkly clear. she had no patience for the trump team's unwillingness to move off their april 2026 position. she kept asking them, look, april 2026 is out, so give me a reasonable time frame that you need to get ready.

they just wouldn't do it, and the prosecution pointed that out, and so they got what they got here, march 2024. >> yep, thank you very much, ken dilanian and catherine christian for being with us this morning. . coming up, we'll get an update on the racist shooting in jacksonville, florida. we'll take you there live as the community tries to heal. you're watching "josé diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. r.

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38 past. this morning the city of jacksonville, fnl florida, is grieving after a white gunman killed three black people in a racist attack. the gunman who was armed with an ar-15 style rifle and handgun and a tactical vest opened fire in the parking lot and inside of a dollar general store on saturday afternoon. last night, a vigil was held just a block from the scene as mourners gathered to remember the victims. president biden condemned the

attack releasing a statement that reads in part, quote, even as we continue searching for answers, we must say clearly and forcefully that white supremacy has no place in america. joining us from jacksonville is nbc's gabe gutierrez. good morning, what do we know about the victims and the latest on the investigation? >> reporter: hi there, jose. good morning. you mentioned president biden's comments. he also noted that this racist rampage happened on the 60th anniversary of the march on washington. he spoke with the local mayor and sheriff here, and this morning we're told that he also spoke with florida governor ron desantis, and he spoke to him about storm preparations, of course, but also pledged to support following this horrific attack. and we're learning more details about the gunman, 21 years old, and we're told that several years ago when he was 15 years old he was held under florida's baker act for an involuntary medical examination. still, investigators say that he legally purchased the ar style

rifle and the handgun that was used in the shooting. now, jose, you mentioned the community coming together and those victims that were identified, and this community wants to keep the focus on those victims. they are identified as angela carr, jerrald gallion, and anolt joseph laguerre jr. he was known as a.j. i spoke with his father yesterday, he said his son was taken too soon. devastating what this community is going through. president biden noting this happened on the 60th anniversary of the march on washington. an investigation is underway, jose. >> gabe gutierrez, thank you very much. next, two republican presidential hopefuls hit the trail in their home state of south carolina. how they're hoping to stand out in the race for the white house, next. you're watching "josé diaz-balart reports." footlong at subway. like the subway series menu.

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45 past the hour this morning, 2024 contender tim scott and governor nikki haley are back in their home state of south carolina and marks the beginning of first full week on the campaign trail after the fist debate. joining us now with more is nbc news correspondent ali vitali in south carolina. ali, good morning. so how are both of these campaigns going into this week? >> reporter: well, look, both of

these candidates are south carolina natives. both of them want to be president come 2024, but both of them have competing ideas of how to get there, at least as they're back on the campaign trail after that first debate. for the south carolina senator tim scott, he's just trying to push past last week's debate. his senior advisers had told me prior to getting onto the debate stage that it wasn't a make or break moment for him. they view him as having the resources and cash in the bank to be able to stay on the air waves, boost his polling and continue staffing up and getting through the campaign calendar. the debate performance for him was pretty lackluster. for him it's just a goal of continuing to introduce himself at a grass roots level while his campaign ads on the air waves do the rest of the name identification work for him. for the former south carolina governor, though, nikki haley, we watched her on the debate stage the other night making moments on foreign policy, domestic policy, showing executive leadership and leaning into the fact that just by

showing up on that stage as the only woman in the race she brings a different view of leadership, and she's bringing that to her message now even after leaving the debate stage. listen to how she says she's going to build a coalition and what it could look like. watch. >> we have to make sure that we have a new generational leader that's going to bring in not only republicans but we're going to pull back the independents, we're going to bring back in the suburban women. we're going to bring in hispanics, we're going to bring in the asian community. we have to make sure we win this. >> reporter: and look, when you look at suburban women, for example, that's a group of voters that i've heard so much about and that we've rightly talked a lot about since 2020 because of the ways that the biden campaign was effectively able to reshape the map in places like arizona, in places like georgia and in places like pennsylvania building their coalition around suburban women who were turned off in some ways because of the trump campaign's message and, frankly, messenger. haley is one of those who's hoping she can be a more moderating voice to bring them

back into the fold. that doesn't mean she's not still tossing out red meat for the base. certainly she does that, but she's also trying to pitch herself as the adult in the room. voters have taken notice. the campaign says they've been able to raise more in the aftermath and the case following that debate in terms of single day fund-raising than they've raised to this point so far. they haven't released that number but cash is a big issue for the haley campaign. they need that money to sustain throughout the next few months and to be able to compete on the air waves eventually too, jose. >> thank you so very much. coming up, looking at the state of our country after the deadly hate-motivated shooting in florida on the heels of the an anniversary of the march on washington. you're watching "josé diaz-balart reports." (crashing sounds) everyone's gonna need more tide. it's a mess out there. that's why there's 85% more tide in every power pod.

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for the 4th of march. now turning to other news, today marks 60 years since reverend martin luther king jr. delivered his "i have a dream" speech. over the weekend, thousands gathered at the lincoln memorial to commemorate the anniversary. on the same day, there was a racist attack that left three people dead in florida. president biden published an op-ed in the "washington post" about the anniversary following saturday's shooting. he wrote in part, quote, we must refuse to live in a country where black families going to the store or black students going to school live in fear of being gunned down because of the color of their skin. joining us is professor at princeton university and political analyst. great seeing you. it's been 60 years since that so important speech that martin luther king jr. gave at the lincoln memorial. how has history been like for us as a country in those 60 years?

>> jose, it's always great to talk to you. it's been more like a spiral, it's not a linear possession, in which we're taking steps forward, taking steps backwards. we have to remember there was an all-out assault on the civil rights movement in real time, while it was happening. and we understand that there were forces mobilized to undermine the demands, the achievements, the successes, then we can understand in some ways the complexity of our current moment now. but it's an an arduous journey, even as we've made some progress. >> and i'm just thinking about the such eloquent way of talking about his dreams and what he dreamt for all of us. what do you think his biggest legacy is today? >> well, you know, in so many

ways martin luther king jr was a reflection of the courage and tenacity of ordinary everyday black folk in the country, committed to democracy. in some ways, it's the language of love, this translation of the black church tradition into a political link where we get the discourse of love that is so critical to the way in which he imagined political engagement, this refusal to demonize his opponents, to always find the humanity in those who denied his own humanity. so i think he gets us, he gives to us, and gifts to us, i think a sense of what it could be to live in the fullness of different, of who we are as a multi-racial country, but there are forces that have been resisting it since day one. if we pan out, we can see it very clearly. >> yeah, and those forces that

have been throughout history successful in trying to destroy that which has light, the unity that was part of that day, certainly has been, you know, challenged. i'm just thinking, eddie, 1968, there's so many times that the forces of evil tried to destroy the forces of good. how do you show that that flame still cannot be extinguished. >> we begin by saying freedom isn't an end, it's a practice. it's not something you achieve and then wash your hands and say everything is okay. when we think about the march on washington 60 years ago, it was framed by the violence of birmingham, it was framed by the violence that was taking place in cambridge, maryland. what happened immediately after

the march on washington, you got the bombing of the 16th street baptist church. we're going to recognize 60 years of that, the assassination of dr. king. and not even a year later, jose, we're dredging the rivers of the mississippi. and so part of what we have to understand, the forces of evil are going to fight for the world that they want, the forces of good must fight just as vigorously for a world that has integrity for every human being, no matter the color of their skin, their gender or class, and that to me is the lesson that dr. king teaches all of us. >> and those who can not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. there is so much that we need to know about the blood, sweat, toil and tears, a quote from churchill, that so many have given so that we could have at least the opportunity to hope.

>> yeah, and in this moment we see there's an assault on critical race theory, whatever they mean by that, an assault on teaching the full history of the country. it's if we want to -- how can i put this? we need our illusion, ice man cometh, we need our illusions to retain this sense of ourself, but we have to tell ourselves the truth if we're going to grow up, and that comes with confronting our history and all of its beauty and tragedy as well. >> truth, it all boils down to that. it's always a pleasure to speak with you. i thank you for your time. >> thank you, my friend. that wraps up the hour for me. i'm jose diaz-balart. you can reach me on social media and you can watch highlights of today's show online. thank you for the privilege of your time. andrea mitchell picks up with more news right now.

on "andrea mitchell reports," the special council overseeing donald trump's case, ordering a trial date. in atlanta, former trump chief of staff, mark meadows, is on the stand trying to move his trial from state to federal court, where there would be no cameras and he might find a more favorable jury. and new information today from a security guard at a historically black college in jacksonville, in florida, where the shooter stopped briefly just before killing three black people at a nearby dollar general. the racist rampage in jacksonville coming as family and friends marked the historic march on washington 60 years ago, and i'll speak to martin luther king jr.'s close friend and adviser, clarence jones.