>> bing bong. >> that's it. >> here we are trucking. this is what it looks like when we do a news show from the road. >> you are great, but i would be more happy if this was our viewer. >> we're in brooklyn. >> it's friday it's -- >> time to fall back. >> you can find me on tiktok at ari melber or right here on msnbc. "the reidout" with joy reid is up next. . tonight on "the reidout" -- >> i was so offended the minute i read page one of trump's filing when they were asking for that absurd trial date of april 2026, because on page one, they cite powell versing alabama. the powell case involved nine african american teenagers ages 12 to 19, who were accused of sexually assaulting a white woman. they were arrested, arraigned,

and forced to go to trial in less than two weeks without qualified counsel in a death penalty case. >> glenn kirschner last night on this show, pointing out the absurdity of the idea that donald trump is just like a persecuted black teenager in the 1930s. as the right pushes a laughably racist narrative that being an accused felon gives trump street cred with the blacks. >> also tonight, tennessee state representative justin jones is again silenced by republican house leaders for passionately fighting for gun reform, after a mass murder at a nashville school. representative jones joins me tonight. but we begin tonight with a weird trend that we have noticed coming out of maga republican world. this is a party, after all, whose base is overwhelmingly the same demographic that gets its

news from fox, so let's say not super diverse. but since trump came along in 2016, they keep insisting that because of him, republicanism is booming among black people. despite there being no evidence of that. as donald trump's troubles have gotten more intense, republicans are leaning into a new twist on this narrative. namely that trump being an accused felon has broadened his appeal with black voters. >> i think this is endearing, especially many black men, to president trump. >> as one black lady i spoke with earlier today in new orleans said trump is a gangsta, and that means he has cred among a new bloc of voters that perhaps have never given him a serious look and now they're looking again. >> black americans throughout our history have felt unfairly victimized by the system. historically, there's some truth to that. the mugshot unintentionally created a bond between donald trump and black americans. over the weekend with help of

mugshot merchandise, the trump campaign raked in over $7 million. today, my garbage man told me he's buying mugshot t-shirts for everyone he knows this christmas. >> bless your heart. good to know jesse waters that some of your best garbagemen are black. you don't really know any black people, do you? none, right? none. i figured. waters went on to claim to further prove his genius point that a new mural is on display in the inner city in atlanta celebrating trump and paying homage to the mugshot. except that the mural by artist chris veal who is white, by the way, is not on display in the inner city but rather on the lovely atlanta beltline east side trail where you're much more likely to find a jogger or a latte drinker than the boys in the hood. the mural also says, as a new acronym for maga, can i'm quoting with apologies to the saints out there, maga, my ass got arrested. note to jesse and friends at

fox, all of atlanta is not the inner city, nor is any place where black people live. black people literally live in the suburbs, they do, and the idea that black voters will switch to trump because of his arrest and mugshot is so amazingly racist, i don't even know where to begin. but this wild narrative is happening at the same time maga governors are banning black history with the help of the modern day version of the daughters of the confederacy, moms for liberty. while maga media world is literally co opting the very injustices against black people in the jim crow south that they're making illegal to teach and grafting that history onto themselves and donald trump. making themselves and trump the real victims of discrimination and the criminal justice system. another example, in a lame attempt to delay trump's federal case to 2026, his attorney cited powell versus alabama. that's the landmark 1932 supreme

court decision that overturned the convictions of the scotts burrow boys. nine black teenagers and young men who were falsely accused of raping two white women. that's the case, by the way, that led blues singer ledbelly to coin the term stay woke. meaning watch out, black people, if you come down south, there's racists down here. you really can't make this up. that's the origin of woke. the supreme court in that landmark case noted a defendant who is charged with a serious crime must not be stripped of his right to have sufficient time to advise with counsel and prepare his defense, which those young black guys with barely any legal counsel didn't have. fast forward to today. and the highly paid legal team representing super rich former president of the united states donald trump is equating his alleged crimes trying to steal an election by scapegoating black voters and poll workers, to a group of black teenagers

who were rushed to trial and sentenced to death by an all-white jury without a shred of evidence against them. that comparison is so ridiculously offensive, it could only have come from, well, trump. who is trying to steal the veil of black oppression and drape it over himself like a superman cape. and he isn't alone. conservatives who are banning black history are also pulling the same steal. they're seeking to co-opt the history of oppression, particularly as meted out to black americans and apply it to rich, white, christian men. it is literally they who are oppressed. it's a coordinated effort. the foundation of all lives matter, the great replacement theory, and book banning in florida, arkansas, and other red states, the whole idea that white christian americans are under siege in school curriculum and sports and college admissions. forget critical race theory. it's critical trump theory now,

and it doesn't stop with just co-opting black oppression. no, no, they're trying it with hip-hop culture too. remember back in the 1990s, it was a normal thing for rappers to name check trump as a symbol for wealth and power. nelly, jung jock, and kanye, who later as the maga hat wearing ye, would be used by trump to convince black voters he wasn't racist. trump and the oval office even pardoned kodak black and lil wayne. see, he's on your side, blacks. the irony is his hip-hop avatar was based on a media lie like cribs and the apprentice. trump was never a billionaire. he just inherited a lot of money, lost it, declared bankruptcy five times and still got bank loans because he made himself famous. and his track record for racism goes back to the 1970s. in that sense, he was doing what some rappers do, playing a role. and trump's electoral strategy to win over black voters or at least pretend to, to make white

voters feel better about him, failed. but now it's a legal strategy too. he's even hired lawyers who defend rappers in court, while yelling defund the police. it's like they finally understand that systemic racism is real and oppression is real, it just isn't real for anyone other than trump. joining me is reverend al sharpton, host of "politics nation." and katie phang, former florida prosecutor, msnbc legal contributor, and host of the katie phang show. rev, i want to start with you. we are literally a day off of the actual anniversary of the march on washington, and apparently, if you let trump people tell it, the march on washington was about freeing donald trump. they're literally trying to take everything that has happened in real life to black americans and say that isn't real. you can't teach that in school. we made it illegal for you to even talk about it. none of that systemic racism is real, but all the things black people have ever said about

systemic oppression are real, but only for this guy. >> i think when you look at the powell case, misused in this fashion, let's not go back to the 1930s. let's go to the 1990s when five young black and brown men were falsely accused of raping a white woman in central park. it was donald trump that took out ads in the papers in new york saying they should get the death penalty. so they want to cite how blacks have been abused by the criminal justice system, cite the case where we lost and eventually it was proven these five young men that donald trump called on to get the death penalty was in fact innocent. so we don't have to go back -- go by trump's history and what he did. the only case of race in the criminal justice system that i have ever seen donald trump stand up for in new york where

he's a native is when he called for the death penalty of five innocent young black and brown young men. that is the answer. and black men need to know that they were all young black men. one spent 13 years in jail. he was with us for the march in washington on saturday. let them come and tell the rappers and others that are being seduced by trump what he did in his hometown to innocent black men while we were marching. so going back to the '30s because they can't go back to new york where he discriminated against blacks in housing and discriminated against these five young men and helped cause a long sentence that they were innocent of all along. >> that is coming from somebody, by the way, who knows donald trump and has known him for decades. he's not saying what he thinks. he's saying what he knows when it comes to the rev. katie phang, i give you blacks for trump. let's just talk about blacks for trump for a second. you know, trump pardoned two

rappers, and you know, you would have taking it from jesse waters, he's a hero of hip-hop culture and the blacks love him because there's a mural insulting him in atlanta because jesse waters thinks atlanta is apparently good. there's a gentleman named harrison floyd who steeled himself as the leader of blacks for trump, who took himself down to a state where he doesn't live. he lives in maryland, went down there to try to intimidate two black women, a mother and daughter who were just poll workers who rudy giuliani was lying about and accused of stealing an entire election. intimidated them along with kanye west's expublicist, and they're now along with a pastor accused of in this rico trial, he was the only one not out on bond until today. he was in court, there's video of him, you can see video of him essentially pleading broke with the judge, because out of all of those defendants, he's the only

one who didn't get out on bond because he allegedly brutalized an fbi official who was trying to serve him a subpoena. so where are blacks for trump? have you heard any friend of the court filings from blacks for trump since trump loves the blacks? >> no friends of the court filings, and you know, joy and rev al, i'm glad you brought up harrison floyd. because nobody is excusing his behavior. there's a reason why he was being held longer than everyone else, but it is notable that he is one of the only black defendants in the fulton county case, one of two, one of the only defendants that actually stayed in court longer than everyone else because he couldn't get a bond. i think, joy, the problem is this. it is an insult to a community of color for trump and the maga republicans to suggest that there is some type of honor in co-opting this mantle of

oppression as your ciron. it's not hypocrisy and i want to emphasize this because it kind of went by the wayside. there have been four deaths in the fulton county jail in one month. four deaths. but that jail, donald trump and the other codefendants, they spent no time in there, right? they negotiated their bond orders. they went in and lickety split, they got out. so for donald trump to literally capitalize on a mugshot when mugshots are not badges of honor, we all know that when you see somebody in the back of a police car, the first thing you think is to yourself, what do they do wrong? it's not, were they wrongly arrested? were they wrongly put into custody? the first thing you think when you see someone in custody, what did they do wrong? so for the maga and for donald trump to think they can now parade a mugshot, make millions off it, dume their followers

into paying money to buy merch, to be able to support this man, when it's an insult to the intelligence of communities of color to suggest they believe he is some type of folk hero now because he managed to get a mugshot. mugshots are not badges of honor. it doesn't mean that the person did anything wrong, but in this instance, we do know that donald trump did something wrong by trying to subvert the outcome. >> they can be a badge of honor in one sense. rev, you have been arrested, protesting for right. you have been arrested in civil rights marches. you're a civil rights leader. you go back and think about people arrested in the 1960s. john lewis' mugshot is a badge of honor but it was what he was arrested for. he's arrested in order to protest for people to vote and have civil rights. donald trump wasn't arrested for protesting for civil rights. donald trump has been accused of stealing national security including nuclear secrets, he's been accused of sexual

misconduct against a woman and that's a civil was. he's been accused of attempting to steal an election and conduct a coup. the idea that black people simply because he was arrested are going to gravitate toward him, i actually -- you know, it's almost so creatively racist that i'm almost impressed that they have all come up with this, and on fox, this is their new talking point. they think black people like criminals, and that's what they think of black folk. they even think atlanta is a giant criminal stew of the hood, and therefore any mural in atlanta has got to be pro-donald trump and got to be black people lining up to praise him. it's what they think of black people, the reason they can't get black people to vote for them. >> well, it is part of the criminalization of blacks. they see all blacks as criminals, and they feel that we all in a knee-jerk way go with

criminals. no, we go with those that we feel are falsely being criminalized and tried and cannot defend themselves. secondly, we deal with the fact that on the other side, people that have done crimes against us rarely have been punished until of late with george floyd and ahmaud arbery. but thirdly, there is a silver lining. if they raise a lot of money on his mugshot, with 91 counts, let's see if they raise a lot of money when they put an orange suit on him if he is in fact convicted. >> yes. i do want to play really quick a tape for you, because this was another person who trades on black culture, exhibits anti-blackness, brags about trying to get don lemon fired, but then he wants to be in hip-hop. i don't want to play his silly rap because eminem has already dealt with him. here's vivek ramaswami back when he was pretending to be a regular person. back in a year you will remember, rev. here's the clip of him on hardball. hardball college tour, actually.

>> let's get to my question. >> i'm vivek and i want to ask you, last week on the show, we had senator kerry, and this week, and the week before we had senator edwards. my question for you is, of all the democratic candidates out there, why should i vote for the one with the least political experience? >> well, you shouldn't because i have the most political experience. i got involved in the political movement when i was 12 years old. and i have been involved in social policy for there last 30 years. so don't confuse people that have a job with political experience. >> what do you make of his act now, rev? >> i think that he is disingenuous. if you look at how he -- that was 20 years ago when i was running for president. >> i voted for you in the primary, by the way. >> and when you look at him

recently, about a year and a half, two years ago, he was taking shots at donald trump. clearly, he is like trump. he will say whatever will fit his agenda at that time, and he really is one you cannot take seriously because he's not serious about standing up for something. when i saw the tape this morning, it reminded me that i was telling him, social justice and fighting for civil rights is providing community service and public service. it doesn't have to be an office. he's providing neither. he's neither been a public official or been involved in any public movements. it's all been about private selling of him and for the republicans that act like he is some credible person, there's a background on anything other than self promotion shows the state of the republican party. >> apparently, he only voted twice, that election for a libertarian and one other time. last question to you, katie.

there's been an interesting development. rolling stone has reported, this is their reporting, that there have been inquiries from jack smith about whether rudy giuliani was drinking. we know this did come up in the january 6th hearings when he was giving the advice to donald trump about stealing the election. how legally might that be relevant? >> drunk advice is drunk advice. and if you're going to take drunk advice, you can't say you relied on the drunk advice to your detriment. i wanted to say one quick thing, and i apologize for hijacking that question. the thing about vivek ramaswami that people need to realize is, he's taking a playbook out of the gop. he's actually as a minority trying to drive a wedge between communities of color. and that's what they do. they try to pit minorities against minorities because they know that if they drive a wedge between communities of color it's easier to co-oft them, to take advantage of the divisiveness that can exist.

it's incumbent upon us to ignore people like vivek ramaswami, laugh at him and say he's a nothing. the other critical thing is this, too. the hypocrisy we're seeing when it comes to the mugshots, et cetera, and what you have been talking about is it's not okay for communities of color to protest in the street, it's never okay for us to do that, but it's okay for you to protest on january 6th and you know, defecate in the united states capitol? that's okay for you to do, so it's okay to be arrested and be mugshotted but if you're a minority, it's not okay. one, thank you for the grace of reminding me and others that mugshots can be badges of honor when they're achieved in ways to achieve social justice. two, i'm going to correct you because donald trump has been found liable of sexual assault. you said he was accused. i want to correct that record and say he has been found liable by a jury of his peers of sexual abuse. so that's the only thing i'm going to say, but ignore the drunk people.

ignore the drunk lawyers. >> because look, she said that sober, y'all, because you have to take good advice from people who are coming at you the way they're supposed to come at you. there will be another trial, e. jean carroll gets another bite at the apple because he also allegedly defamed her. that's in january. reverend al sharpton, katie phang, thank you. >> up next, republicans in congress do an about face on defunding the police. now their dear leader is in trouble with the police. revealing a rundown of their efforts to obstruct and delay trump's trials when "the reidout" continues.

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in a last ditch effort to help donald trump avoid trial, his makeshift legal team on capitol hill, aka, house republicans, are quite literally attempted to, and i kid you not, defund the police. not for everyone, of course. no, no, just for the twice impeached four times indicted liable for sexual abuse former president. nbc news is reporting today that with the deadline for the government spending bill quickly approaching, trump's maga cronies in congress are not focusing their energy on politics that, i don't know, would help the constituents who tax dollars pay their salaries. nope. instead, they're using government funding as an opportunity to hinder the federal and state prosecutors who have indicted trump. congressman andrew clyde of georgia, for example, says he

will introduce two amendments to eliminate federal funding for special counsel jack smith, as well as the fulton county and manhattan district attorneys. fani willis and alvin bragg. meanwhile, matt gaetz is pushing for legislation that would flat out cut off funding for smith's office. an effort that is supported by de facto house speaker marjorie taylor greene. and then you have congressman jim jordan, chairman of the house judiciary committee who just last week opened an investigation into fani willis. he's also calling for provisions in the spending bill that would change how the justice department can use money. that includes barring the doj from conducting a politically sensitive investigation which includes political candidates and family until the department of justice establishes a policy requiring non-partisan career staff to oversee such investigations. no mention of whether or not that standard would apply to his party's investigation into another presidential candidate,

named joe biden. joining me now is kurt bardella, former spokesperson for the house oversight committee. oh, kurt. >> here we are again. >> they want to defund the police. >> how about that? >> what's up with that? >> you have to understand that when a republican is in the line of fire, then law enforcement needs to back off. you're going after the wrong people here. when a democrat is under scrutiny and investigation, that's okay. they want that. it's a complete overpartisanship of justice that the legislative branch is trying to dictate to the judicial branch how they should conduct their investigations, who they should target. if they don't do it that way, they're going to defund them. that kind of sounds like extortion. >> obviously, donald trump is on the road to becoming the nominee. he's beating the pants off all his other opponents. so their assumption is he's going to be the nominee. if he's president, is the point of this to get pardons?

because some of these people i have named, they were kind of involved in the insurrection. >> i seem to remember during the january 6th select committee's work, the committee issuing subpoenas to members of congress like judiciary committee jim jordan, like paul gosar, because remember, there were reports that members of congress helped some of these insurrectionists case the joint. there is a lot of information that we still don't know because these members of congress, these people who love their subpoenas and investigations and depositions, that they never cooperated. so it makes sense that they're going to do everything they can to protect donald trump because if trump goes down, maybe they could go down. >> kevin mccarthy is saying he's getting all his ducks in a row for impeachment. it's ridiculous. they're going to impeach biden for being old, i don't know what. >> for existing. >> but it seems like he has to do these things. he has to let them go through these exercises of we're going to defund, you know, jack smith's office and pretend like we can defund state prosecutors. he has to let them go through

the exercise in order to stay in power. is that the way to read it? >> again, after the marathon round that was kevin mccarthy limping into the speaker's office. >> 15 votes. >> and like you called it i think de facto speaker, marjorie taylor greene. these are the people who are actually running the show. mccarthy is just there as a figurehead. someone who wields no power, no influence. he's being held hostage by the crazy maga right extremists who are now part of the insurrectionist llc, the judiciary committee that masquerades around and tries to use the guice of power to justify their witch hunts and mccarthy is going to rubber stamp it. >> you should be a staffer on oversight when you were with the other party. i wonder if there's any real politic at all in -- i mean, none of this would pass the senate. you can do whatever you want, you're just going to muck up the bill, the overall spending bill that's got to go between the house and senate. none of this is actually going to become law. they're not going to defund jack smith. they cannot force fani willis or

alvin bragg to concede to them or turn over their investigation to them. so i don't know if you talk to still any republicans or if there are any normies left in there. does anyone understand there is a waste of time and they're setting up maga voters for further disappointment when joe biden is not carted off to guantanamo bay. >> if you talk to any staffer that works at any of these committees and a lot who work there now worked with me back in the day at the oversight committee. when we actually did real oversight. no one thinks this is going to end in an actual victory for hem. no one thinks the american people are going to wake up and rally around their cause thinking, you know what, despite the fact we always talk ubd health care, women's rights, the economy, jobs, trying to make the world a better place, not getting killed at school with guns, we're going to think impeaching joe biden with no evidence and no evidence of any wrongdoing is a good idea. >> then why do it? >> they don't have an answer for the other stuff. we watched in election after

election, these guys get waxed on the ballot on the issue of women's rights alone. their answer so far is, you know, we should go for a 15-week abortion. they keep going more extreme. they know those policies are alienating them from every voter to win the election. the only thing left to do is some smoke and mirror show of the specter of the oversight hearings, the specter of an impeachment proceeding to distract everybody away tromtheir policies which are completely out of step with the majority of this country. >> the problem with that, though, is when -- the voters that are maga believe this is real. >> right. >> they believe donald trump is their friend. they believe that he would reach through the tv and help them if he could, and he doesn't care. when they don't get what they are being promised, they have already shown how violent they can get. that's what i think people in the national security world are worried about. when they get real disappointed when this doesn't come to fruition -- >> we see every day on social media these maga people mouthing off and threatening to bear

arms, threatening to foment civil war. and we know that after january 6th, it's not just talk. it's real. >> indeed. kurt bardella, thank you. up next, the mayor of jacksonville, florida. on how her state is becoming a haven for white nationalists under ron desantis' leadership and how her city is preparing for the impending arrival of hurricane idalia. stay with us.

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epidemic continues unabated. yesterday, at the new school year began at the university of north carolina chapel hill, students were forced to jump out of windows as the school went into lockdown after an armed gunman murdered an associate professor. once again, america's run, hide, fight generation had to run and hide. this latest senseless act of violence comes just a few hours after we learned more about the white supremacist killer from jacksonville, florida. what we know is he was aced to leave edward waters university, because he refused to identify himself. the shooter was seen putting on a bullet resistant vest and a mask before he left campus and headed to the dollar general store. what we didn't know was that just before he went to ewu, the shooter had scoped out another dollar general earlier in the day. >> it looks like he wanted to

take action at the family dollar. that's what it looks like. and he did not because i think he got impatient and got tired of waiting. >> the sheriff said they are continuing to comb through the shooter's manifesto but reiterated it was his disgusting ideology of hate that led him to gun down angela michelle carr, ajlaguerre jr., and jerrald de'shawn gallion in cold blood. here are aj's brothers yesterday. >> hate can be taught. love can be taught too. >> guy just wanted to work. 30 minutes later gunned down just for working, just for being black. it's unfair. >> joining me is the mayor of jacksonville, florida. donna deegan. thank you for being here. congratulations on your election. you're starting your term in a rough way. how is the community handling this nightmare? >> well, i gotta tell you, joy, it's the worst possible way to start. and it is -- we're all just in

grief. i would like to say we're in shock. but it's hard to be shocked anymore. this community has been through this sort of violence again and again. and it's really just too much. we have got to start sending a message loud and clear that we just simply will not accept this kind of hate, especially in our community. i ran on a message of unity. but unity has to come with truth. i think that it's going to be very, very important for us to all face some hard truths and to really speak to each other. look at each other, and if we're ever going to get to each other's humanity, we got a long way to go. >> state representative nixon yesterday, who represents this area, was on with us. and she said that mayor desantis has blood on his hands. she blamed his rhetoric, his policies, his anti-blackness and the way that he's conducted himself as governor for setting the stage and creating the atmosphere that produced an event like this. what do you say to that?

>> well, representative nixon has been right there in the thick of it. you know, there are so many times that she has tried to gain resources for this community, tried to face some of these issues. and as you know, that has not been successful under this governor. so she's had a lot of frustration. i don't pretend to know what is in the governor's heart. i simply know that what we're facing here in jacksonville with this hate against the black community, every step that we take in the wrong direction is a step that takes us closer to the next incident. we simply cannot have it anymore, joy. we have to start facing the reality that we have hate in this state that we need to address and that we need to loudly and clearly say is not acceptable. >> let me play the reception that the governor got when he did what a lot of people believe was simply a photo op, showing up at a vigil for the jacksonville dead. >> governor ron desantis is

here. [ booing ] >> i want to ask you a couple questions about the governor's response here. when this initially happened, he said he called the sheriff. he did not say that he called you. you are the mayor. did he call you? and how soon after he called the sheriff did he call you? >> i don't know when he called the sheriff. he called me a couple hours before that vigil that you just saw. and told me he was going to be sending some money for securing edward waters university. we had a short conversation. i thanked him for providing that help for edward waters and thanked him for his call. >> i think one of the reasons why he got that kind of reception is he started off by using the term monkey it up, regarding his first opponent, his african american opponent. and it's kind of degraded from

there, saying black history had no inherent value, banning dei, attacking black history, saying black people benefitted from slavery. i could go on. do you understand why he got those boos when he showed up in the black community? >> well, i do. and i dare say he may have expected to have that reception. but i will say that i am personally glad that he was there, because i think it's important that he come face-to-face with that pain. there was a lot of grief, and is a lot of grief in that community, and he needs to see that. and as i said, you know, i'm sure edward waters university is grateful to have the money for security, but we have to go so far beyond that. you know, we're were celebrating the anniversary of ax handle saturday on the sunday we were there for that vigil. and it just feels like these days we're moving backwards. it feels as if we're just using different ax handles, joy. and we have got to acknowledge that. and i think the governor being

there to see that pain and to see that response, i am hopeful that has an impact on him. >> yeah, not sure you can even teach ax handle saturday in florida schools now. i'll leave that for now. let's talk about the hurricane bearing down on florida. is it expected to touch down in jacksonville? is it going to -- is jacksonville going to face these storms? >> well, we have seen the track move further and further west throughout the day, so what we're expecting is tropical storm force conditions here. the worst of it is togue oo be further south toward lake city and madison. so we're hunkering down, basically, we have our emergency crews out. we're under a state of emergency and asking folks to stay home. there may be some isolated flooding and tornadoes and a lot of wind. so a lot of trees down. it looks like we're at the very least going to dodge the worst of that. >> yeah, i lived in florida for 14 years so i remember the stress that proceeds these kinds of events. hopefully we can get down to jacksonville and visit some time soon. maybe when the naacp lifts its

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legislature special session on guns which was called at the governor's request follow horrific shooting at an elementary school, adjourned without any meaningful gun reform. as the state house adjourned, chaos erupted in the gallery with protesters channing for republican house speaker cameron >> [crowd chanting] >> because the representatives justin jones and justin peterson protesting on the floor as well. you will recall that they are the two black representatives expelled in april for protesting gun reform who recently won their seats back. moments later a scuffle appeared to break out between the speaker and pearson. this comes after representative jones was officially silenced yesterday for talking out of order, bringing up mental health during a discussion of a

bill allowing more law enforcement in schools. jones had announced earlier earlier he wanted to propose a vote of no confidence against the speaker. representative justin joins jones joins me. now let's start with at the end, the scuffle. you were all expelled for having a megaphone on the house floor. the speaker seemed, to my eyes, to maybe have assaulted representative pierson. you can see him shove him. is that not an event that can lead to a vote of expulsion? >> today is a very sad day for democracy in tennessee and all i can say is that the house is out of order the leadership of cameron sexton and a sad day and we get to talk about what happened after what led to this point was that the republicans really into this session without passing meaningful gun legislation, they shut down debate, allowed not even

allowed us a moment of silence, and didn't get out of session because they were afraid of public press pressure. cameron sexton has pushed mothers of covenant and mothers who have been impacted by gun violence, and refused to listen to the people of tennessee. -- >> you were silenced, and i saw the tape of it, you are talking about mental health is part of the legislation you are pushing. is that the reason you are silenced again? >> i was saying that my district is asking for more funding for mental health and counselors in schools to pay our teachers better, not for more police officers. for that the speaker said i was speaking off topic and i was silenced for the remainder of session. if i was ruled out of order today the speaker had threatened i would be silenced for up to three days and the next offense would be indefinitely. we still see caplan cameron sykes in a speaker of the house silencing members, especially the two youngest black members, from speaking because he is so afraid to have a conversation about guns to protect our children in tennessee because he's so beholden to the nra and

the tennessee -- association. >> you had released a letter stipulating you wanted a vote, you want a vote of no confidence in speaker sexton. i will read some of it. it's for misrepresenting his residency. he doesn't live where he says he lives, where he's representing, defrauding tennessee taxpayers, wasting taxpayer money, and other things. do you think that is the real reason you are silenced? >> every member of my caucus knew that the reason why i was silenced by the speaker was because i was going for a motion of no confidence of the leadership of cameron sexton. when he silently every democrat walked out. it's a charade. the speaker was so afraid to have this vote of no confidence because he knows he's leading tendency toward failure, humiliation, authoritarianism. he does not deserve to be in speakership. it is sad he does not live in this district. people across, people who live in the district are fed up with this want to be dictator.

>> where does this push for a no confidence vote go from here? >> i'll bring it back up in january. he attended session today. i raise my hand. i said would be appropriate to make a motion of no confidence? he immediately called on his republican flunky to make a motion to adjourn. so we're not coming back until january. the speaker won't even speak to the people. he won't speak to the mothers of covenant who have their children terrorized, and some of them lost their children because of a mass shooter. he is not courageous. he has a small personality, very fragile in his power. if he was confident he would allow me to make a motion of no confidence, but he refused because he was afraid, he knows even his own republican members are tired of his foolishness. >> he also removed mothers who were just quietly holding signs, as you had said he would or was planning to. and let people have guns in the hearing rooms. we are stance your committees?

the last time you are on you have been denied being restored to your committees. eric holder's representing you. where stands that? >> we are still waiting to hear back if i will be restored to my kids. the speaker wants to play games of manipulation with his power. but he knows whether he gets my assignments are not, i will speak for the district, 52 constituents who sent me here overwhelming me to be a voice for change to protect kids, not guns. to ban assault weapons, high capacity magazines. i will continue to be a voice for my district. cameron sexton's time is limited as speaker. >> i will reiterate our offer to cameron sexton to come on this show and defend what does seem to be the end of democracy in the state of tennessee, at least as regards the state house. tennessee state representative justin jones, thank you very much. we'll be right back. we'll be right back.

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