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and happening right now at a d.c. court, a member of the proud boys facing sentencing for his role on january 6th, how long he could face behind bars. ♪♪ good day to you, it's 10:00 this friday morning eastern time. i'm peter alexander reporting from washington, we are going to begin with that breaking economic news, the u.s. economy adding 187,000 jobs in the last month, in the month of august, nearly 20,000 more than what the analysts have been predicting. the unemployment rate, as you note, it went up about, well, 0.3% to 3.8%. the highest place it's been since february of last year. we want to get to nbc news business and data reporter brian cheung. he is at the big board with the very latest on all of this. brian, walk us through these numbers and what you find significant. >> yeah, good morning, peter. there's a lot of numbers in

here. let's add a little bit of context to help us understand exactly what it is we're looking at. as you mentioned, 187,000 jobs. that's how many were added in the month of august. that is above what wall street economists had expectsed expect. the government tends to revise the data so a little lower than we thought. really catching the attention we saw. that is the unemployment rate, it picked up from 3.5% in the month of july. i've heard from some economists this morning that said some that could have been due to the seasonality linked to younger people leaving the work force as they may get back to school. when we talk about the industries that did gain jobs in the sector, leisure and hospitality, bars and restaurants, they've been driving a lot of the job gains in this post-pandemic recovery, adding 40,000 in the month of august. retail trade, jobs at the mall adding over 6,000 jobs, but

health care, this was the big gang busters adding 71,000 jobs. that offsets some of the losses we saw in the motion picture industry because of the striebs strikes we've seen in hollywood. average hourly earnings, this is what the federal reserve is going to be watching very closely. how much more are people getting paid now compared to this time last year. 4.3%. that is the yearly change from august of this year to august of last year. that's a little bit of a slowdown from the 4.4% we saw in the july period. this is something the federal reserve might look at and say this is a good thing. it's not zero but it's also not accelerating where employers might be passing on those costs in the form of higher inflation. we'll see how the federal reserve responds. >> the numbers are important, but it's the context that counts throughout this always. i want to bring in the acting labor secretary, julie su right

now. madam secretary, thank you for being with us. 187,000 jobs added, at the same time as we've been showing our audience the unemployment rate did tick up, the result likely of more people actively looking for work. why do you think more americans are returning to the work force? are they worried about the economy? have they spent down their savings? are they concerned about high interest rates? what's your take? >> thank you so much. i think it's a sign of optimism. you know, i think people coming back into the labor market as they have since the pandemic in record numbers is a sign that people, you know, see some hope, that they're out there looking for jobs. the numbers that we are reporting today are really what you'd want to see if you are looking for that soft landing people have been talking about, right, that we would have continued steady job growth, remaining low levels of unemployment, less than 4% since the longest stretch since the

1960s and continued work to bring costs down. this is the economy the president envisions where workers are stable, secure, and have a little bit of breathing room. >> madam secretary, the fed has obviously been trying to cool the economy. this would appear to be more evidence that things are cooling. do you agree with that assessment that the labor market is cooling, and is that a good thing? >> yeah, i mean, i don't want to speak about what the fed does, but yes, initially after the very rapid recovery we've had, the fastest in the two and a half years since president biden's been in office that at any time under any other president in four years, following that time period of really breakneck jobs numbers, we are and have been entering a period of more sustained, steady growth, and yes, i would say that is good for the economy. that's a sign of what bidenomics is all about, and it's good for the american people. >> there are some headwinds, of course, right now, how worried are you specifically about these strikes? there's a new estimate that we

just read that says that the hollywood strike has already cost about $5 billion, production, film delays and the like. what is the administration doing to help resolve that strike? similarly there's a uaw strike a couple of weeks away? what are you and the administration doing to end or avert these strikes? >> yeah, so one of the pillars of bidenomics is empowering workers. another one is investing in america. another is bringing down costs, but empowering workers has really been, you know, not just an accident but really an intention of the president's economic policies. and that has meant that workers have had more power to demand better working conditions, to change jobs, and it's given more power to unions at the bargaining table. part of that is the right to strike. what we've also seen in many other high profile but also less well-known situations that unions at the bargaining table with power are resulting in better terms for workers and

longer term sustained growth for industries, and those are good things too. >> you know, you talk about empowering workers, what more should the administration be doing right now to advocate for workers' rights as we still really haven't seen wages be able to keep up at a sustained pace with inflation? >> i think continuing to invest in ways that create good jobs across the country in every community is part of that answer. here at the department of labor, we're laser focused on making sure that all workers have access to those good jobs, so i was in chicago investing in a program that would help women get into construction jobs, especially women of color. we are looking at people, returning citizens are from incarceration, taking advantage of the full talent of american people into these jobs is part of how we continue the kind of steady growth and broad-based recovery that we'd like to see. >> julie su is the acting labor

secretary. madam secretary, thank you for making time to speak to us today. >> thank you so much. we turn now to a flurry of new developments in the sweeping fulton county investigation. the former president donald trump now waiving his scheduled arraignment set for next week entering a plea of not guilty. that plea was filed in writing. you can see trump's signature right there, hard to miss on the documents, all this means he will not be appearing for that scheduled in-person arraignment on wednesday, the date that he and the 18 co-defendants were scheduled to go before a judge. neither, by the way, will kenneth chesebro. he's also pleaded not guilty, did so this morning and will be waiving his arraignment appearance as well. joining me here in washington is nbc news justice and intelligence correspondent ken dilanian, tia mitchell is the washington correspondent for the ajc, atlanta journal constitution. and former u.s. attorney from michigan, barbara mcquade, we're fortunate to have her with us as well.

ken, you're closest to me and you're right in person, so what's next in this case? what are you keeping your eyes on? >> i think we're seeing the consequences here of the decision by fani willis. each one of these defendants gets a crack at making motions to these rookie judge. some of these utterly conflict. some want to go to trial, donald trump wants to delay as long as possible. there's some complexities here. that will give donald trump and his lawyers a free crack at all the evidence in this case. >> let me ask you about this, barbara, if i can for a second, how many of these other co-defendants do you expect we will see follow suit like we've seen from former president trump? i mean, you recognize if they try to sever their cases from the others that that would force, were it to happen, you to have witness who is had to testify on multiple occasions about basically the same facts? >> yeah, so in a case like this

with multiple defendants, there are a lot of tensions here. one is efficiency. a judge doesn't want to have to try to this case again and again and again. on the other hand when you've got multiple defendants in the courtroom, the risk is that the jury has a hard time keeping track of which evidence applies to which defendant. for that reason, some of these judges do want to sever. i think what we're seeing playing out is the different strategy choices made by fanny willis to go comprehensive and big and jack smith to go very narrowly focused in charging only donald trump to avoid these skirmishes that will complicate and delay the case. >> if we focus on the georgia case, barbara, is this a smart play by these did. s to try to sever theirs? >> i think so. it depends on your strategy. i have seen lower level defendants want to distance themselves from people higher up in the organization because they don't want to be tainted by the spillover effect of evidence against them. sometimes i've seen the lowest level defendant want to go to

the trial with the kingpin of the organization because the contrast of the behavior of the two is so stark. and sometimes a jury might say, well, i see this mountain of evidence against defendant 1. i see less evidence against defendant 19, therefore, this must be guilt beyond a reasonable doubt for defendant 1, but something less for defendant 19. each defendant is going to have to figure out what's the best strategy for them in this case. >> i want to focus on this, tia, i promise i'm getting to you in a moment with new reporting we also know about. what does this tell you about the attorneys for ray smith, asking the judge to sever the co-defendants into manageable groups for trial? >> a lot of people think that's a reasonable request and his attorneys are pointing to another racketeering case that's ongoing in fulton county against some rappers. it's taken eight months had in this case to pick a jury. ray smith is saying that doesn't make any sense. let's split this into manageable quadrants and that may happen. >> we're also keeping a close eye on, i think it's september

8th for the possible release of the final report to the special grand jury that investigated interference with the 2020 election. this is different than the grand jury that voted to indict trump and those 18 others. what might we learn from this report? >> well, there's a lot we might learn because the special grand jury is who initially heard evidence, spoke to witnesses. they had this report that recommended who should face charges. the regular grand jury that ultimately decided who to indict had the report, but again, that full report has in the been made public. what we'll be able to see when we receive this report is who the special grand jury recommended and how that compares to who was actually indicted. for example, did they indict people that weren't named by the grand jury or were there people who were named by the special

grand jury who maybe weren't indicted but are now some of those unnamed -- unindicted co-conspirators. >> so barbara, let me ask you, if i can, let's take a step back here and anticipate the way all of this plays out. this would be the trial of the century to say of the last -- perhaps the last several centuries. we have learned that this case is likely to be televised. how do you feel about judge mcafee allowing the case to be live streamed, which would allow the public to watch in realtime? >> i think in this day and age when there's so much disinformation about what's occurring in the cases against donald trump that for the public to be able to see this case unfold before their very eyes is very important. otherwise it allows people to use spin and take advantage of the information vacuum and say, you know, these witnesses were lying or these witnesses were not credible and just pull out and cherry pick little pieces of it, when the public can see the entire trial for themselves, i think it promotes public trust. i'll use the trial of derek

chauvin in the killing of george floyd. i think it was useful to the government to show that case to the public because everyone was able to see for themselves what the evidence was. otherwise i think there could have been narratives on either side of that case that were less than accurate. the public got to decide for themselves, in the same way it's very important in this case that the public see for themselves the evidence that comes out of this case. >> i remember covering former president trump when he would routinely attack reporters and myself saying these sources were anonymous. they had literally been on camera in the briefing room 24 hours earlier. we would show that. let me ask you, yesterday the georgia governor brian kemp had striking words, tough words for members of his own party who were discussing these ways to go after the fulton county district attorney fani willis, what do you make of that? what do you think of that? what's the reaction? >> so i think what governor kemp is trying to do is learning the lessons of 2020 and how

misinformation and disinformation was used to get people emotionally invested in untruths about the election. it led to the riot at the capitol on january 6th, and i think he's just trying to be proactive to make sure that in a similar way conservatives trump allies are not whipped up into a frenzy in georgia. there's a state senator who's been trying to do just that and governor kemp is saying what the state senator's saying is not accurate. it's not going to happen and just kind of nip it in the bud, i think. he's also standing up to former president trump who continues to say he won the election in georgia, continues to say that this prosecution is politically motivated, and governor kemp is saying let the process play out. let's let the legal system do its work. >> yeah, may explain why governor kemp was able to win re-election in that state.

this is a smart group. we should do this more often. it's nice to be with all three of you. thank you very much. we are back in 60 seconds, a sentencing hearing happening this hour for a member of the proud boys, the penalty that he faces for the attack on the u.s. capitol. plus, mitch mcconnell's health scare, this was tough to see. republicans now pushing for answers from their minority leader after two freeze-up type incidents this summer. also ahead, damage and destruction along florida's big bend, what the recovery looks like there this morning ahead of the president's visit tomorrow. and later heading to the beach this labor day weekend, i hope for your sake you are if you're on the east coast, before these dangerous rip currents come in. we'll keep you posted on the very latest on the weather and what impact that may have on you, that's all ahead. on you, that's all eaahd. (ella) fashion moves fast. setting trends is our business. we need to scale with customer demand... ...in real time.

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judge will sentence two more members of the proud boys in connection with the attack on the u.s. capitol. a sentencing hearing is getting underway as we speak for dominick pi sow la, the only proud boy to be acquitted of seditious conspiracy charges. he still faces up to 20 years for other felonies. later this afternoon another proud boy who was convicted of seditious conspiracy will be sentenced, his name is ethan moredean. he faces a maximum penalty of 27 years. we want to bring in nbc news justice reporter ryan reilly who is outside the courthouse in d.c. ryan, how is pizzola's case different and what are we expecting? we should note just yesterday we saw some pretty long sentences for a couple of these proud boys individuals. >> reporter: that's right. it's a little bit differently situated because he's not convicted of seditious conspiracy. the reason we can ascertain from the jury for that is there was not as much communications

before the attack on the capitol, he was not as involved in those preplanning stages as were those other four members who were convicted of that seditious conspiracy charge. ultimately in this case, judge tim kelly basically went with what half of what the government requested. for joe biggs they requested 33 years, he ended up with 17 years. for the other individual zach rehl who pepper sprayed officers at the capitol and lied about it on the stand the government requested 30 years, and he ultimately got 15. he did bring in the sentencing enhancements for terrorism and decided their sentencing range was higher than the sentence he ultimately handed down, and basically said there wasn't any indication that they were really thirsting for killing people that day, right? that even though they were involved in this attack and this really atrocious attack, that they weren't actually necessarily trying to kill people in the way that you might think of traditional terrorism cases or foreign terrorism cases as we've come to think of them,

peter. >> a case study in the art of performing your duties with a siren passing by, that's real live reporting. ryan reilly, thanks for your updates. next up on "ana cabrera reports," senator mcconnell's latest health scares, republicans expressing concerns about their leader. and the supreme court justice clarence thomas officially discloses gifts and trips from a billionaire donor. what those quiet calls for toughest ethics standards might mean for the high court. senator sheldon whitehouse also the judiciary committee joins me to talk about it. it's all ahead. ahead have fun,! ♪♪ can't stop adding stuff to your cart? get the bank of america customized cash rewards card, choose the online shopping category and earn 3% cash back. ♪i've got home internet from t-mobile.♪

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to freeze again this week during a news conference with reporters. it was the second time we've seen something like that happen just this summer. the capitol attending physician brian monahan's his name, he credited the wednesday freeze-up to lingering symptoms of concussion perhaps. mcconnell, remember, sustained that concussion after a fall at a washington hotel in march. and joining us now is nbc news capitol hill correspondent ali vitali. ali, what sort of reaction are you hearing on the hill today after this latest incident with the senator? it was a 33 full second moment that america watched on camera, it's really reignited questions about the senator's health. >> reporter: you're right, peter, it's not the first time we've seen this. just a month ago in the halls of the capitol with all of his leadership colleagues surrounding him, senator mcconnell froze first, and that was the first time we saw that happen publicly, now seeing it again, of course, during a solo news conference back home in kentucky. all of this lending to questions about transparency. now, you're right that the capitol physician said that this is something that he expects

from someone who's recovering from a concussion. that concussion, of course, stemming from a fall that mcconnell took back in march. he fractured some ribs, he had a concussion. he was away from the capitol for several weeks while he was recovering. now, most of his colleagues in the senate and within leadership said in the immediate hours after this latest incident that they spoke to the minority leader, that he was himself, that he was back at work. on the house side, though, we've seen some more conservative republicans take umbrage with mcconnell's health saying that this is a sign that he should consider stepping down. this all fits, though, into the larger conversation around age and government service that we've been having, not just about president biden, not just about senator mcconnell, but also about other members of the senate here as well. certainly going to continue to be an issue even as we wait to see mcconnell come back to town next week, when you've got to imagine his colleagues once they see him in person have well wishes for him, but also probably some questions. >> an issue that's taken more life on the campaign trail as well, the republican candidate

nikki haley and others describing it as sad and saying you have to know when to leave. i want to ask you about other reporting that myself and the rest of the white house team and some of your colleagues and yourself on the hill have been a part of, this is the effort by the president to ramp up this war room preparing for a battle ahead of a possible impeachment inquiry that the staff, of course, at the white house has called baseless. eight people familiar with the plans have told nbc news that two dozen lawyers have been preparing this defense strategy to sort of aggressively respond to the republican-led inquiry. how soon should we expect to see some more substantial moves as it relates to that effort? >> look, we could start hearing news of this next week or the week after once house republicans start coming back to town because you're going to start hearing this impeachment or impeachment inquiry conversation dovetail with the conversation around government funding. that's the september 30th deadline that all of us are are barrelling towards here in congress. those conversations have been happening during recess between mccarthy and members of that key group that we often talk about,

the house freedom caucus. in my conversations with some members of that conservative conference, they are willing to shut down the government. one of the things that mccarthy may be able to have, an arrow in his quiver, to placate some members of his conference, could be moving on an impeachment inquiry. it could be something that mccarthy has as leverage over them, something they want and something he could move forward with. you and i both know this white house has been preparing for a combative moment of divided government from the very time that house republicans took control of the chamber. they didn't necessarily get what they thought they might have been in for in terms of the inquiries from the judiciary committee, other committees here, they may end up getting it in the form of an impeachment inquiry. >> yeah, and to be clear as is our job, there is no evidence that we know of at this time of any wrongdoing.

keeping a close eye on things from the hill. thank you. from the halls of congress to the supreme court, there is new reaction this morning to the supreme court justice clarence thomas releasing his annual financial disclosure report. it reveals details of expensive trips paid for by the republican billionaire, mega donor harlan crow, including rides on private planes, high end vacations. justice thomas has been fighting off a firestorm of controversy after a series of propublica reports. earlier this year, detailing the financial extent of thomas's friendship with harlan crow. and joining us now is the democratic senator, sheldon whitehouse, he is notably a member of the judiciary committee. senator white house, i appreciate your being here. you've said that this will not deter you from fully investigating the influence of harlan crow on the court, how is that investigation going? what are you learning from these new details? >> well, at the moment, we're in

kind of a stonewall from the billionaire's lawyers, several of them have all taken the same position that was recently back stopped by justice alito in what i think was an improper interview in "the wall street journal" editorial page, but we're going to continue to move ahead. we have a variety of investigative tools at our disposal, the press has been very good about bringing out information, and this new filing by justice thomas is obviously incomplete. there are things we know we receive that are not disclosed in this filing so we need to know why his filing is incomplete and what his theories were and his lawyers' theoies that justified not filing a complete ethics filing. >> i want to read to you a line from the thomas's lawyers that was included in the release of these financial reports. it says the attacks on justice thomas are nothing less than ridiculous and dangerous, and they set a terrible precedent for political blood sport

through federal ethics filings. your reaction to that framing and perhaps to that sort of escalating rhetoric. >> i think you have to look through that kind of rhetoric to what the facts are. at the moment, both the supreme court and the individual justices and their lawyers are working very hard to make sure that nobody finds out what the facts actually are. no independent eye has yet taken a look at these disclosures, for instance. this is thomas's own lawyers, and the court's own people so there's a lot left to find out, and i think if we focus less on the political rhetoric in which thomas's lawyers indulged a great deal and actually look at the facts, the american people will be better served. but at the moment, we're hing trouble getting out the facts. >> and i trust you don't think this is an issue that's unique to justice thomas or, you know, in your opinion is there something wrong with the supreme court as an institution? how is that resolved? >> i think there's an overall

problem of right wing billionaire influence all around the supreme court. the thomas gift from billionaire harlan crow are one, but then alito went on his vacation with the trip paid for by one billionaire and the lodging paid for by another billionaire, also not disclosed to anybody. so there's a lot that we still need to find out, and there's a lot of billionaire influence that needs to be exposed because it isn't how courts are supposed to work. >> well, the robes are supposed to be black, but increasingly they feel like they're either red or blue. the public trust in the supreme court right now really has plummeted in recent years. just this morning we gathered the figure that showed roughly like 40% approval rating according to gallup. is there any motivation in congress to get real reform done? is the capitol there for this to change, or are we just going to litigate it in congress like this and nothing actually moves? >> well, an interesting side bar to the politicization of the court is that congress is

politicized about the court. republicans want to protect it as it is because it's delivering for their big donors so it's really hard to move, but i think it's -- if we focus on the facts, we will learn enough about the misconduct of the court and other judges will start to speak up more and we'll get to a point where the republicans realize this is real. this is not political. there is a serious problem with the court. we will throw in the towel on blocking reforms and figure out a way to do this in a bipartisan way. that's my hope. >> another reminder that elections matter. senator sheldon whitehouse, we appreciate your time. we wish you a good labor day weekend. thanks for visiting with us. >> you also. next on "ana cabrera reports," the aftermath in florida, president biden calling for billions more in disaster relief. plus, headed to the beach this labor day, the new warning about dangerous rip currents that you're going to need to hear.

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back now live on msnbc, and president biden is visiting florida tomorrow to survey the damage caused by hurricane idalia. he's also approved a major disaster declaration for that state making federal funding available to affected individuals in seven florida counties as communities there just begin the process of going through what's left. surveying the damage after idalia's flooding. storm surge, heavy winds, all having an impact with early estimates suggesting the losses there could be more than $10 billion. joining us now from horseshoe beach, florida, is nbc news correspondent maggie vespa. maggie, as we look behind you, you're just struck by the scenes there. i know there was, you know, folks were grateful that this thing didn't hit a big population area like tampa, but it still had such an impact on some of these smaller more remote communities in big bend. >> yeah, peter, exactly. it's like small communities.

huge impact. you can see that house or what was a house clearly behind me. now it's just basically concrete pillars and the metal roof on top of it with some of the wooden foundation in between. a couple of updates, nbc news confirming there has been a fourth death attributed to this storm. that one out of south carolina where officials say a man crashed into a tree as idalia rolled through. we're getting visuals, a new look at the worst of the storm's damage. this as president biden as you said promises to come to florida to see the devastation for himself. this morning in the wake of idalia's deadly wrath, a stunning new look at coastal florida communities utterly decimated by the historic hurricane. entire blocks torn to shreds when the category 3 made landfall with trucks submerge ds in murky water. before and after satellite photos showing the storm's destruction in florida. president biden, who on thursday

thanked staff at fema headquarters for their response to idalia and the maui wildfires will survey the damage in florida on saturday. >> to the people of florida and throughout the southeast, i'm here to make clear that our nation has your back. >> reporter: the president's promise coming alongside a series of updates on the struggle to recover. >> seeing a lot of damage and i'm also seeing a lot of resiliency. >> reporter: long lines growing with families desperate for donations and supplies. idalia downgraded to a tropical storm wednesday night, but still wreaked havoc in georgia and the carolinas leaving behind a landscape of flooded communities. georgia officials confirming a third hurricane related death following two car crashes in florida during the storm according to florida highway patrol. >> we do have one reported fatality from a tree falling on a vehicle. we are certainly keeping the family in our thoughts. >> reporter: meanwhile, images of floridians who opted not to evacuate going viral. this man enjoying a beer in his recliner even though his living

room is flooded. for debra mims in hard hit perry, she heard this massive tree come crashing down while she rode out the storm in her home. >> you realize you're stronger than you think you are. you walk outside and, oh, wow, i made it through. i didn't, you know, die. >> reporter: a lot of people having that surreal realization. an update from that piece in the last few minutes, and now we have a fourth death attributed essentially to idalia. that one was in south carolina according to officials there, and then peter as you mentioned in the tease to this segment, another major headline coming out is that fema warnings in the aftermath of this storm, they are running out of disaster relief funds. the administrator, according to cnbc warning officials, warning president biden, they have about $3.4 billion left in disaster relief funding saying that will last them until mid-september, aka two weeks. during those two weeks they're going to be prioritizing the immediate needs of those affected by this storm and those

affected by the maui wildfires. in the meantime, president biden asking congress for $16 billion to try to bridge the gap into the next fiscal year, and you can bet that will be a key focus when he arrives here to face the people who need that help most, peter. >> yeah, maggie, we've been speaking to white house officials. we hope to have more details about exactly where he plans to travel tomorrow later in this day. we will share those with you at home as well. maggie vespa on the ground there in florida, thank you. if you are headed to the beach this labor day weekend, you're going to want to see this, the national hurricane center issued a new warning this morning about potentially dangerous rip current conditions up and down the east coast. the reason is what's left of hurricane idalia now spinning over the atlantic. nbc's stephanie gosk has more from jones beach, new york. stephanie. >> reporter: hey there, so the weather is supposed to be fantastic this weekend, all along the east coast. like it is this morning here on jones beach, close to new york city. the problem is that the water isn't cooperating for

beachgoers. this beach was closed as were some other beaches along the east coast. the problem right now is hurricane franklin, which is not projected to make landfall, it's off the coast churning up the waters in the atlantic. that is what creates these life-threatening rip currents and potentially really big waves. the national weather service says the waves could be as tall as eight feet here at jones beach. it's not just here, it could be life-threatening conditions all along the east coast, including in massachusetts and new jersey, and then there are other states with other weather systems that have rip currents as well including texas and california. now, there are some safety tips. the most important is that the risk is high for rip currents, don't go in the water. if you are in the water and get caught in one, the most important thing is to stay calm, don't swim against the current, which is pulling you out to sea. instead try to swim along the coastline. later on today, officials here at jones beach are going to be determining whether or not they

can open up this beach, and their message is please listen to the lifeguards and stay as safe as you can this holiday weekend. back to you. >> it looks like it could be a gorgeous weekend but important that you and your family stay safe. thank you for that. interest on student loans resumes today. if you have debt, we're going to break down what it means for you. also ahead, planes and trains and automobiles, americans hitting the road for this labor day weekend. you're watching msnbc live. kingd after antacid all day long but with prilosec otc just one pill a day blocks heartburn for a full 24 hours. for one and done heartburn relief, prilosec otc. one pill a day, 24 hours, zero heartburn. ♪ i have type 2 diabetes, but i manage it well. ♪ ♪ jardiance ♪ ♪ it's a little pill with a big story to tell. ♪ ♪ i take once-daily jardiance, ♪ ♪ at each day's staaart. ♪ ♪ as time went on it was easy to seee. ♪ ♪ i'm lowering my a1c. ♪

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brewster. good to see you on this, a lot of americans have this date circled on their calendar. it was one they were hoping would never come. it has to be getting confusing for borrowers trying to get a better understanding of all of this as interest is kicking back in again. >> that's exactly right, peter. and look, you can imagine the range of emotions, the roller coaster of emotions as one person put it to me that they're feeling with all of these different headlines. look, for most borrowers, for tens of millions of people with student loan debt, they will be seeing their first payment on october 1st, so less than 30 days away. but because of an action the administration took in april of last year, there are hundreds of thousands of people who log into their accounts and they're seeing a new balance that reads $0.00. >> everything says paid in full. >> reporter: the relief and celebration came in a flurry. >> i've been paying on student loans for 38 years. >> zero balance. >> i am thankful for the biden

administration finally coming through. >> reporter: the biden administration wiping away $39 billion in student debt. >> to see 0, i'm used to seeing 0 in my checking account, not my student loans or a credit card or anything like that. so it's shocking. >> reporter: after more than 20 years of payments, sarah walsh's $40,000 balance gone overnight. how? the education department just did a one-time adjustment to fix errors with some programs that forgive loans after decades of monthly payments. borrowers got credit for late or partial payments and for the time services put their loans in an extended pause or forbearance. >> these borrowers should have been in an income-driven payment plan. if the system had worked, these borrowers would have had their loans canceled a long time ago. >> reporter: while this isn't the widespread cancellation that the supreme court blocked in june, the administration says this relief will impact more than 800,000 borrowers. >> what does this forgiveness

mean to you? >> i'm not so pressured to pay my bills that i have. i can start budgeting a way to get a car since i've never owned a car in my entire life. >> reporter: with college debt now nearing $1.8 trillion nationwide, the president is celebrating the change and previewing additional action. >> i promise to fix the problems in the existing student loan program that hurt borrowers for much too long. >> we think it's unlawful, illegal, and ultimately unconstitutional. >> reporter: but two conservative groups with launching another legal fight asking federal courts to block future forgiveness. >> this is not just some sort of administrative fix. what they're doing is just trying to maximize cancellation of loans, it's not just possible in using this so-called adjustment as a pretext for doing so. >> as it stands, cancellation that many thought was a dream is now a reality. >> i kept logging in to make sure that it said 0.

>> it still says 0? >> it still says 0, and the smile hasn't left my face. >> now, for those who are not smiling because they still have that balance to pay starting in october, the administration is launching a new program that's called the save program. it's a new income-driven repayment program. you see, it cuts the minimum payment from 10% to 5% of discretionary income. they say that could bring the payments, the mandatory payments for many borrowers, to $0. so everyone knows people are going back to college now, peter, back to school now, but those loans are also coming due in less than a month. >> yeah, the best part of that piece, though, was just seeing the expression, the relief on those folks who finally saw a zero balance in what they owed. i remember that feeling well. joining me with more is roben farzad, nice to see you on this friday heading into a holiday weekend. doesn't feel like a holiday for

a lot of these folks, right? there are borrowers out there who have had their payments and interest unpaused since they graduated. so what is this going to mean for them? >> do you like don henley, peter alexander? >> of course i like don henley, come on now. everybody likes to quote boys of summer around labor day, but after seeing that piece -- ♪ forgiveness, forgiveness even if ♪ >> so many people had hopes, millions and millions of people that may be $10,000 at a time would be wiped off, including the supreme court thwarted that. it is a scary season because you had a generation of people who had remote classrooms, who had to put off college matriculation and signed on to this debt really on the eve of the pandemic and now kind of their vindication is, well, i'm going to get stuck with it again and i never had a normal where i had to write out a check every month. they may have gotten used to a standard of living, a cost of living, maybe car payments and

other things that this is going to be a cold winter for them. >> a lot of americans are looking down at that, at those bills and thinking it is their lying eyes. i hate to tell you it is not the case. >> oh, good. >> like what i did there in. >> i like what you did. >> we're not talking about a couple of months here. more than 43 million borrowers had federal student loan debt already with average balance over $37,000. that's according to education data initiative. talk about the ripple effect here, robin. this has the potential to have an impact on other spending that americans would be focusing on cars or houses or rent or whatever else. >> yes, especially with all eyes on the federal reserve and the jobless rate and inflation this is a form of fiscal tightening, if you will. like a tax hike on people, they're getting a sudden -- they have to garnish their payments somehow to make the payments again or be in arrears, and i think the fed has to be mindful it ripples up to the very highest levels of central

banking when they're considering the multitrillion dollar question of the hike or to keep rates at this level or if we start romancing the idea of cutting rates sometime into next year. so this is a big institutional problem and clearly the supreme court thwarted the biden administration solving a lot of this. but it remains a significant drag on the economy. >> also, very quickly, we heard shaq lay out the biden administration's new plan on student debt after the initial plan was blocked by the supreme court. how big of a difference does this plan make in the big picture? >> it is comfort for about 800,000 people, but it is trimming at the margins. we have a multiple debt bombs in this country coming down the pike. it is thwarting generations, really, sadly. >> yeah, robin farzad, as don henley and the eagles would say, take it easy, have a good holiday. >> i can check out anytime i want. thank you. >> i'll see you at the hotel california. you and i got to take the show on the road sometime. >> we should, we should, thank

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before summer comes to its unofficial end, millions of americans will sneak in one last trip this labor day weekend. tom costello tells you what to expect. >> reporter: think about the numbers here. more than 100 million people traveling over the labor day weekend. that means roughly a third of the country is traveling. it is going to be very busy. people on the roads and also in the airports. however you travel, you're going to have a lot of company. it is that last big getaway of the summer. millions of americans driving into a busy travel weekend ahead. >> i was expecting a lot of traffic. >> a lot more people, a lot more

crowds, long weekend. >> reporter: bookings for domestic travel are up 4% since labor day last year. and a whopping 44% rise in international bookings, with top destinations including vancouver, rome, london, dublin, and paris. with an estimated 95 million americans expected to travel in the coming days, experts say the best time to avoid heavy traffic are in the evening and the early morning, right about now. >> the longer you wait during the rest of the day, more people are just going to be filtering down the road. if you can get a jump start on the holiday, you'll be ahead of the crowd. >> reporter: some cities with heavy traffic are expected to be even more congested than usual. including l.a., seattle, houston, atlanta, and boston. >> it takes us three hours, it takes us three hours. we're there for the weekend. we'll have a good old time. >> reporter: some travelers are planning ahead. >> we're going to go back on sunday so we're not dealing with

the monday traffic. >> reporter: and with the roads expected to be packed, experts are urging motorists to drive with patience, to avoid what has become a nationwide problem, road rage. a new survey finds the most confrontational drivers are in arizona, followed by rhode island, west virginia, virginia and oklahoma. if you're looking for polite drivers, head to delaware, they're nice there. and many drivers are getting a break at the gas pump, average gas prices now $3.82 a gallon per aaa, close to the same time a year ago. meanwhile, the holiday rush is on at the airports. the tsa expecting to screen more than 14 million passengers this weekend. it was not your imagination. if you're flying this summer and the airports were packed, tsa says they screened 227 million passengers, the most ever, 2.5 million a day. i just checked, only 42 flight

cancellations today nationwide so far. so it is looking like a pretty good day to fly. and if you're driving, get out on the roads early. back to you. >> tom, thank you very much. hard to believe it is already jacket time here in the d.c. area. appreciate your report. that's going to do it for us. jose diaz-balart is picking up our coverage right here. and good morning. it is 11:00 a.m. eastern, 8:00 a.m. pacific. i am jose diaz-balart. in a couple of minutes, president biden is set to give remarks on a stronger than expected august jobs report. we'll bring that to you live and break down the new numbers. president biden expected to visit florida tomorrow to survey the damage left by hurricane idalia as cleanup efforts are under way in some of those devastated communities. we'll go live to the big bend area on florida's west coast. plus, the judge overseeing former president trump's criminal case in georgia says the public will be able to witness this high profile trial live as more