much for all that you're doing and for lending your voice to this cause. we appreciate you. >> thank you. that does it for this dex of "andrea mitchell reports." join me this weekend from 2:00 to 4:00 p.m. right here on msnbc. "chris jansing reports" starts right now. good day. i'm chris jansing live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. from the white house to the courthouse and now former president donald trump is facing new political pushback from within his own party. his criminal case in georgia is sparking harsh divisions within the state gop, so what will happen if the trial is aired live all afternoon the world for everyone to see? and it's all on tape, the newly released police video of the fatal shooting by an officer in ohio. what we're learning from the body cam footage showing the moment that a 21-year-old pregnant woman was shot and

killed in a grocery store parking lot. plus, yet another proud boy tells the court he's a changed man who regrets his actions on january 6th. he sees them now as unimaginable. how did the judge respond? the prison time he's now facing on seven felony charges for storming the capitol. but we begin with the rapidly intensifying political division surrounding former president donald trump's legal issues in georgia. one of the former president's supporters is now suggesting that if the fulton county case goes to trial, it's inviting civil war. >> we need to be taking action right now because if we don't, our constituencies are going to be fighting in the streets. do you want a civil war? i don't want a civil war. i don't want to have to draw my rifle. >> well, the state's republican governor, brian kemp is trying to tamp down any and all threatening rhetoric, rejecting calls by trump and some of his

supporters to start impeachment proceedings against d.a. fani willis. >> in georgia, we will not be engaging in political fear that only inflames the emotions of the moment. we will do what is right. we will uphold our oaths as public servants, and it's my belief that our state will be better off for it. >> but it's still not clear when trump will even face trial in georgia after his lawyers argued yes that a march trial date doesn't give them enough time to prepare his case, one of several defendants in the rico case that so far are making that argument. and then, of course, there's also the effort to get their cases moved to federal court. for whoever is tried in georgia, the judge now confirms there will be cameras in the courtroom, if and whenever that happens. with me now nbc's blayne alexandern't on the ground in atlanta, msnbc legal analyst,

joyce vance, and former virginia republican congresswoman barbara comstock. welcome to all of you. blayne, there's a lot of noise out there from state and local lawmakers, trump supporters in general. what's the level of concern on the ground? because no one from the republican governor to the d.a. seems to be swayed by any of it. >> reporter: i think that's a very good point, chris. when you talk about the clip you just played from the local lawmaker, i think it's important to contextualize and point out there's a small handful of local republican lawmakers who are calling for disciplinary action against fani willis, discussing defunding her office, but that is a small minority. there have been republicans, other republicans who have been pushed back on that, certainly democrats have, but i think the biggest pushback you saw from republicans was from the governor brian kemp yesterday. he made it clear that he is not going to call a special session to entertain the possibility of removing fani willis from

office. he said that if there are reasons that people are upset with the d.a.'s performance, there are proper channels to take that out. he even went a step further, one, calling it unconstitutional, but two, saying that in his sight she hasn't seen anything so far that has violated her oath of office. here's a little bit of what he had to say during that news conference. take a look. >> it doesn't sound like we have that soundbite from the governor, but basically he said he doesn't see anything that makes it seem as though she has violated her oath of office. i think what's important to point out is the dynamics. she's a democrat here in fulton county, which is a heavily blue area. i think for people who have watched georgia for quite some time, you will remember that brian kemp resisted the same type of call to call a special

session back from then president trump in the days after the 2020 election, he wanted the governor to call a special session to overturn his last year in georgia, kemp didn't do it, and that was the beginning of the rift between the two republicans, chris. >> blayne alexander, thank you for that. congresswoman, when you look at this, is georgia just a microcosm, really what we're seeing within the republican party, this split, this big chasm within the republican party created by donald trump and which side you're on? >> well, it is, but really it would be great if more republicans would listen to governor kemp because governor kemp is in a swing state, and he's a winner and he's following the rule of law, and he's following the constitution. whereas donald trump and his hand-picked candidates have lost in georgia repeatedly in '20, in '22 with the senate candidates, and he has said he wanted to suspend the constitution, and then he's finding people like that character that, you know,

who's in the state senate there who's just trying to raise money just like trump himself is trying to raise money, and these are losers. so donald trump is a loser. you can stay on the loser train with him, which is what brian kemp is pointing out, or you can get on the winner train and follow the law and look towards the future, and the real problem is in the primary, too many republicans want to stay on the loser train. >> even if this is largely about fund-raising, and it has been effective fund-raising to be a little bit incendiary, congresswoman, are you concerned about those comments, the push to investigate district attorney fani willis, and i guess bottom line just how politicized this whole process has become. >> well, the good thing is as is pointed out, this is a minority voice, and the governor came out -- >> but enough of a voice that the governor felt that he needed to respond. >> yeah, well, and good for him because we need more voices like that because there has been violence because of what donald

trump and others have done. of course january 6th being the most obvious example of it. but since these indictments, you haven't seen those crowds turn out because people have been prosecuted, hundreds and hundreds of people have been prosecuted. so these calls for violence from foolish people like that state senator, all they are doing is getting more maga people probably indicted, thrown in jail, and then they won't be voters, if that's what he wants to do, i guess that's going to be the way it's going to be. but i don't think that's a real threat. kudos to governor kemp for shutting it down as quickly as possible. he should be a model the if republican governors and leadership across the country. >> joyce, there was a flurry of filings yesterday in georgia, hard for a non-lawyer like me to keep up, so i'm going to ask you to help us figure it out. and let's start with what happens if these cases are not

moved to federal court, but you have so many people now who are going in and saying, listen, this isn't enough time for me to get ready. i cannot go to trial in march. what do you see as the most likely outcome here? splitting it up, two trials, three trials, what do you see? >> right, so there are two sort of dual tract issues that are being litigated right now, chris. one is the issue of where these cases will be tried, in state or federal court, and that's now largely in the hands of northern district of georgia federal judge steve jones. he's got all of the briefs and the parties's arguments. but while he's considering that removal issue, state proceedings can go forward. in fact, there could even be a trial extremely unlikely that will happen here, but a trial could take place before he makes a decision because state court proceedings continue. and so the issue is some defendants have made speedy trial requests.

legally in georgia, they now must have their trials commence by the next term of court after the one that's currently in session, that means a fall trial for that group. other defendants say, no, that's too fast. and there are due process reasons and constitutional reasons where they should be given more time to prepare, especially because we know fani willis has asked all of the defendants to provide two terabyte hard drives to receive their discovery. that means there's a lot of material, plenty of rationale for those folks to slow things down. so two groups for trial, perhaps more the judge will have to work out some of the pragmatic issues involved here, how many defendants and lawyers can he get into his courtroom? how does he think it should go forward? but of course fani willis has rights here too. and she's continuing to argue that these defendants should all be tried together in state court. now it's in the hands of the judges. >> so assuming they stay in georgia, the judge made it

clear, it seemed like this was going to happen, but now he has affirmed it. cameras are going to be in the courtroom. something we have never seen of a trial of this magnitude. you could argue there's never been a trial of this magnitude. what's your thought about it, pros and cons? >> so i think it's all pros. this is 2023. every state system in the country virtually uses cameras in the courtrooms, and we've seen this before in georgia. we saw ahmaud arbery, who was murdered by two men with racist motives in georgia, that trial play out on television. so people were able to see the evidence, and here's why that's important, chris. there's nothing like looking at the witnesses and hearing the evidence to help communities understand what's really going on in a situation. here with the former president it's incredibly important that people across the country

regardless of their political perspective, be able to hear the evidence for themselves. that's an important step if the country is ultimately going to come back together at the end of the trump era. >> so congresswoman, from a political perspective, what do you think the impact would be if a former president of the united states was on trial and everybody all afternoon the world could watch? >> well, i think we have to remember during the january 6th hearings, the president, you know, donald trump's numbers dropped, so i also think during a trial such as this, what you're going to see is all of the witnesses against him are going to be republicans. it's going to be people like governor kemp. it's going to be people like brad raffensperger and that tape that we know, and it's very likely, i think, that donald trump won't be testifying at all, so you're going to have his aides and people, maybe by that time people who have turned against him, already some of these witnesses in georgia have

said, hey, i didn't know what i was doing. i only did this because donald trump told me to sign it or his people told me to sign it. if more people turn against him, you're going to have donald trump shrinking there in his seat while all of his hand picked people are going to be, you know, testifying against him and there's just such a volume of documentary evidence and video from the very time of him saying damning things against himself. so i don't think this would be at all good for him, and you know, he can go and bluster when he's outside a courtroom, but in the courtroom donald trump does not have a good record. >> barbara joyce, stick with me, thank you so much. up next, we're following that breaking news out of ohio where police today released body cam footage showing the fatal police-involved shooting of a 21-year-old pregnant woman. the reaction from the community and what we know about the officers involved. and the cost of hurricane

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disturbing new body cam footage released just this morning shows the moment of a 21-year-old pregnant woman was shot and killed by police in a grocery store parking lot, and her family is calling for the officers involved to face charges. i want to bring in nbc's maura barrett who is covering this for us. the police in ohio just released this video this morning, eight days after the shooting. what can you tell us about what's on that tape? >> well, chris, what's becoming apparent now that we viewed the video is that what started with a shoplifting accusation ended in the death of this young woman. before i show you the video, i want to explain what happened. basically, the young woman,

21-year-old takiah young was leaving the grocery store when two police officers were already in the parking lot. a kroger employee appointed her out as one of several suspects suspected of shoplifting from the store. the police say that the other suspects had fled at this point. and so i want to roll the tape of the video. we are not showing all of it in terms of when the shot was fired, but you can see what happens leading up. you see the police were called. they were in the parking lot helping another person unlock one of their cars, and then you see another officer in the background telling young to get out of her car. she repeatedly refuses. she rolls down her window at one point and says that she's not getting out of the car after he says that she's suspected of shoplifting. you then see her start to drive away as another officer had stepped in front of the car. that is when the single shot was fired, and then you see the police officers chase after the car and we are told after that the police officers and ems

helped to render medical aid. and so she did pass away at the hospital shortly thereafter, and i want to just roll the tape for you here that we got from the body cam video, if you want to take a look for yourself. >> 3705. >> out of the car, out of the car. out of the car. out of the car. out of the car. get out of the car. then get out. no. then get out. >> get out of the car. >> get out of the [ bleep ] car.

>> now, it might have been hard to hear, but right before that shot was fired, you can hear on the tape takiah young asking the police officers, what, are you going to shoot me, and then the shot was fired. the officer that fired the shot has been placed on administrative leave and the police department has turned over the investigation to the ohio bureau of criminal investigation. we do know that the family view the video for the first time before it was released to the press, and the public. they just released a statement before i came on the air with you saying that having viewed the footage in its entirety, it is undeniable that her death was not only avoidable but also a gross misuse of power and authority. they described her as a beacon of love, strength, and energy, and are calling for a swift indictment of the officer involved. >> maura barrett, thank you for that. now to florida where an updated early estimate from the damage from hurricane idalia is more than double what we heard yesterday. now expected to be $20 billion.

tomorrow president biden will head to the state to survey the damage himself after requesting an additional $4 billion to congress to replenish fema's disaster fund. nbc's guad venegas is on the ground in horseshoe beach, florida. i can see the scene over your shoulder, huge cleanup, but i'm wondering what the message is for the president tomorrow and are people looking forward to seeing the president tomorrow? >> reporter: chris, as you mentioned, there is piles of debris as you can see right here. this was part of a structure that is no longer standing here. this is a structure that was made out of cinder blocks. it's gone. there's also a lot of damage to the power lines here. you can see they actually own the condos over on that side, and they're just cleaning up some of these power lines and there was just downed power lines as far as the eye can see here. this is some of the destruction, some of the damage that we've seen. i've been talking to some of the neighbors, the residents here about the help that they'd like to see, the message for the president, but first off, let me

tell you, most of them told me that right now they're focusing on cleaning up their properties, and it's hard to process what's coming. but i did have a long conversation with tina who owns a hotel just a block away that was completely destroyed. this is what she had to say. >> whenever something like this happens, i shut everybody else out. i concentrate on my own, you know. it's just doing something, you know, do something to keep your mind off of things. >> yeah. >> of the scope of it. i'm going to have to start talking to fema or whoever to see what they'll do, if they'll clean it up. >> reporter: so right after that, we started talking about the president's visit, and i asked her, what would you say to president biden if he were to come down here. and she thought about it for a few seconds, and she said help, help, help. she kept repeating the word help.

>> a lot of people who would echo that. thank you, guad venegas, i really appreciate it. can i ask you against the backdrop of this is the question about insurance costs in florida. first of all, are people going to get the money they need, but also the policies have been in flux, premiums have been rising. what are you hearing about that? >> insurance in florida has been an issue for the last few months and years, right? it's very difficult to get insurance because of the storms and other reasons. what we know for the people that live here in horseshoe beach is that the insurance company that did offer insurance for a lot of the properties here has set up over at the entrance of town along with some other resources from the state to try to inform customers from the insurance company and residents of all the help that's available. there's a lot that the residents have to go through, not just with insurance, but also with the fema help, business owners, for example, can apply to what's call an emergency bridge loan, which is money that they get right away with no interest that they can pay back once they get

that insurance money. that of course takes a little bit longer. it's a lot of information that residents have to process, but what the state is doing, they are offering these information centers for people. and i actually have one of those slips in my pocket that they gave you earlier. i walked over, if there's a resident that wants more information. they're giving away flyers that tell you what you can do. over here is an app where people can put in information. for example, once they hire a contractor, and they want to know if it's a licensed contractor because there's also issues with contractors that aren't licensed. people can use this app and check that the contractor is licensed and it's okay to work with them. there's a lot of steps that the people have to go through after they contact the insurance and hopefully the information is going to be available in all of the communities like it is at least here where i walked over and i was able to get some of this stuff. but of course this is the information that a lot of the residents want but we can also -- we should also keep in mind that right now they're

focused on cleaning up a lot of this debris and waiting for the services to be restored. what i was told, once they get the power, once they get the water, then people can have a little more peace of mind as they continue with this process, chris. >> guad venegas, just great comprehensive reporting. thank you so much for that. up next, what we know about the latest sentencing for the remaining proud boys convicted of crimes on january 6th, and what we just learned was shouted in the courtroom after one of the proud boys was sentenced. you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc. you need sinex saline from vicks. just sinex, breathe, ahhhh! [sniffs] what is — wow! baby: daddy. sinex. breathe. ahhhhhh! right now get a free footlong at subway. like the subway series menu. buy one footlong in the app, get one free. for freeee.

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we just got in some breaking news. two more of former president donald trump's co-defendants in georgia have just waived their arraignment and pled not guilty in fulton county. scott hall and harrison floyd. hall is a bail bondsman in atlanta who has been charged by d.a. fani willis with crimes related to his alleged coffee county georgia voting, harrison floyd is charged with harassment of ruby freeman. the two now make eight total co-defendants who have filed to waive their arraignment. in a little more than 30 minutes one of the most visible members of the proud boys who led the boots on the ground effort for them on january 6th will be sentenced after being convicted of seditious conspiracy earlier this year. the government seeking 27 years

for ethan nordean. he'll be the fourth proud boys member sentenced just this week. i want to bring in nbc news justice reporter ryan reilly. also with us is joyce vance. ryan, another sentencing hearing actually just wrapped up, dominic pezzola. what was the sentence there, and i understand he made a gesture and yelled to the crowd after the judge left the bench? >> reporter: that's right. so dominic pezzola was sentenced to ten years in prison, and he gave a pretty tearful apology. one that probably a lot of people would have seen as genuine. his wife also spoke and she talked about how he was, quote, an effing idiot, and how she wanted him to be able to be home for their daughter, their daughters, rather, and one of whom i actually spoke during the sentencing hearing, but after the judge imposed the ten-year sentence as the judge was already off the bench and as he was being led off, away to go serve out his time behind bars he shouted out trump won, which

was actually the second time we've seen that happen in a january 6th case. the other time was a couple of months ago with danny rodriguez, the rioter who drove a stun gun into the neck of officer michael fanone. they both yelled out that phrase, trump won as they were being led out of the courtroom. so it sort of speaks to the differentiation between what these defendants are telling judges and then immediately once sort of the gloves are off and it doesn't matter anymore, what they're declaring ask it's interesting because if they still think trump won it's hard to think that a lot of their actual remorse is genuine because, you know, they still have the core belief in what was driving obviously what happened during the -- at the capitol on january 6th, chris. >> so joyce, i wonder, you know, there was so much talk in the beginning whether outside political pressure would affect this legal process. is what we're seeing all of these convictions and harsh sentences, ten years in prison is no small thing. does that mean a resounding, no, it hasn't gotten in the way?

>> i think that's right, chris. what we've seen is the justice department do what it's supposed to do, pursue cases based on the facts and the law, and this has been a massive effort by doj and the district of columbia. in many ways this series of cases has involved so much in the way of prosecutions and proceedings that the court is processing far more cases than it does in a typical year, and its resources have been stretched. nonetheless, we've watched these cases go forward like clock work, and as you point out, although these sentences have in some cases been less than what the government has asked for, these are very serious sentences, ten years. so dominic pezzola is free to walk out of that courtroom and spout whatever nonsense he wants to. perhaps his wife had the best characterization of his behavior, but anyone who's thinking about engaging in this sort of conduct going forward now appreciates that even for people who are boots on the

ground during a coup, a decade in prison is no small change. >> yeah, and do you usually find in where are experience that a tearful apology doesn't really change the mind of the court, which has heard all the evidence, and you know, considered all the facts? >> so i think it actually can when it's sincere. judges are required by the law to consider a number of surrounding circumstances when they engage in sentencing, and defendants who accept responsibility get some sort of a modest sentencing break. but look, federal judges like parents of small children become savvy assessors of what goes on in a courtroom. pezzola wouldn't be the first to have a religious conversion or political conversion that lasts only as long as his sentencing hearing. the judge was not persuaded, that's why we saw this

significant sentence here. >> thank you both so much. stargazers fascinated by the strange and the unexplained, this one's for you. the pentagon has a new website described as a one stop shop for publicly available records on ufos. for now, the site includes just a handful of videos, this is one of them. some labeled unresolved, some unclassified. the pentagon says more will be added as they're approved for public release. there are also plans to add tools that will allow government officials or even the public to report their own sightings. you can imagine what that's going to lack like. the website comes after congress pressed for greater transparency on ufos. how ironclad is trump's grip on power with grass roots voters. our very own steve kornacki is breaking it down on the big board next. you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc. re watchg reports" only on msnbc

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maybe you've noticed donald trump has been largely laying low while opponents like vivek ramaswamy have ramped up their campaign schedules talking issues, trump is largely communicating grievances related to his four indictments, 91 criminal charges and of course the mug shot for the history books. it's working. poll after poll after poll shows that republican voters still believe the former president has

the best shot of beating joe biden. nbc's steve kornacki is at the big board to walk us through the numbers. back with me former republican congresswoman barbara comstock. steve, i know you've been looking at weeks of polling data, what conclusion have you come to? >> i think you got to it there too, what was supposed to be donald trump's biggest weakness with republican primary voters, the issue of electability in the face of the indictments, the criminal charges, the ongoing legal drama, in the face of the 2022 midterm elections where republicans vastly underperformed in the wake of that matter of trump's loss in 2020, of the midterms in 2018 where republicans did so poorly, and yet, two things here. first of all, show you where the republican race stands here in, an average of the national polls. this takes in some polls from before the debate, some pollsif after the debate.

there haven't been a ton of polls after the debate. some have shown a little movement. the story remains, a wide trump lead in the republican race nationally with desantis a distant second, everybody else in single-digits. that question of electability that was supposed to be donald trump's biggest liability with republican voters, a hurdle to overcome, this lead may not be in spite of that, it may be in part because of it. take a look at the questions of electability that have been asked recently of republican voters. this is a morning consol poll. who has the best chance of beating biden, more than 60% said donald trump, 13% desantis, you see the rest on here. "the new york times" in sienna put it a little bit different ri a few weeks ago. they put desantis and trump head to head. one of the premises of the desantis campaign you were hearing is this would be trumpism without trump, in other words without the electoral baggage. maybe that would appeal to

republicans. they asked in this poll, who's got the better ability to beat biden by better than a 2-1 margin, republican voters said trump not desantis. how about this, there's a poll out of georgia this week, not one of the key early primary states but still this is where the epicenter of some of that legal drama involving trump when it comes to beaten biden is trump definitely the strongest republican, is he probably the strongest republican. look, nearly 70%, 69% chose one of those two options. only 25% said that somebody else would be. no matter how you're asking it, you're seeing republicans say they believe donald trump isn't just electable, they believe he's the most electable republican. and it leads to one other question, do they have a point? is it possible that they're right, and i think one thing to keep in mind is this. this is what the poll average looks like right now when you pit trump head to head with biden. now, biden does lead. that lead is less than a point on average.

so it's a close race. it is also a market contrast to the last time around. remember the biden/trump race, when you pitted them against each other in the fall of 2019, at this point in the average biden was ahead by double-digits. and that was the story of the entire race. you remember this, poll after poll just consistently showed solid joe biden leads over donald trump throughout the entire 2020 campaign. trump is faring better against biden in polling now than basically he ever did in 2020 and for that matter, he's faring better against biden right now than he fared against hillary clinton throughout almost all of the 2016 campaign. so if you're a republican primary voter and you're thinking about electability and you remember 2020 and you remember 2016 and you're looking at those numbers now, are you necessarily wrong if you come to the conclusion that trump's electable. and for that matter, if you're a democrat and there are a lot of democrats out there who have

been hoping for a trump nomination because they believe he's so unelectable. if you're a democrat do you look at those numbers, are you sure he's that unelectable? >> all right, so congresswoman, i'm going to then pose the question that steve just answered with the numbers. do those republicans who think trump is the most electable have a point? >> well, listen, the republican base has been told for four years that trump won in 2020, so they're picking the guy who lost to biden because they think he won, but you know, to steve's point, when you look at those numbers, we should remember trump never got above i think it was 46.9 or, what, 47.1 in the general election, so he focused on the general election, he never won a majority of votes and when it comes down to the general election, we're going to be looking at those swing

states, which are in much worse shape for donald trump, i think, than they were before in terms when you look politically. when you look at michigan, which the party has totally lost control, the party is near bankrupt if the stories are accurate that have been in the papers lately. and pennsylvania, you now have democrat dominance there across the board statewide with a very popular governor. of course arizona is a mess, and now, you know, kari lake and blake masters, who was thinking of running again for the senate, who is noted as the most unpopular senate candidate last year, all these trumpy candidates that are coming back are going to be a drag in swing states. when you move into general election, the independents and the republicans who aren't coming back into the trump sphere, that is when you're going to see -- then when you have the trails, focusing on trump, when you have the republican trump witnesses out

there every day, when the focus is very squarely on trump's weaknesses and when i think you have an economy pop back up, i think it's going to be a very different story, and remember, last year what was supposed to be a red wave turned into a very small red ripple because these very same republican base voters thought trump was a winner. he has not won since 2016. he lost to biden, and these base voters, you know, totally oblivious to that. they picked the guy who lost to biden as the one most likely to win, and that's not historically something that happens. >> former congresswoman barbara comstock, happy holiday weekend. thanks for being on the program. appreciate it. coming up, new nbc news exclusive reporting on the extended deployment for some u.s. troops at the southern border amid a surge in illegal border crossings. but first, the latest on the financial and cultural

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after the pentagon extended their mission another month. it comes as border authorities report a record number of illegal crossings by families last month, now the single largest demographic group apprehended at the u.s./mexico border. nbc's julia ainsley joins us with more of her reporting. julia, after title 42 was lifted, we saw illegal border crossings plummet, though many were expecting a surge. that does not appear to be the case anymore. what do we know about what's going on and what role the military is planning to play? >> yeah, that's actually something that we were first to notice this rising number in families. this was in late july. we were able to get the numbers here first and see that the number of families crossing the border had tripled between early june and late july. "the washington post" is reporting they're actually at a record high, the number of families crossing the u.s. border. some people may say that's because the biden administration is not detaining families. anyone who crosses with their child is under 18 would not be

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it's labor day weekend and americans are gearing up to travel. aaa expects 95 million people to hit the road. the tsa expects 14 million more to fly. nbc's tom costello shows us how to get ready. >> it's that last big get away of the summer, millions of americans driving into a busy travel weekend ahead. >> i'm expecting a lot of traffic. >> we got a lot more people, a lot more crowds, especially with the long weekend. >> aaa says bookings for domestic travel including flights, hotels, rental cars and cruises are up 4% since labor day last year, and a whopping 44% rise in international bookings with top destinations including vancouver, rome, london, dublin, and paris. >> with an estimated 95 million americans expected to travel in the coming days, experts say the best times to avoid heavy traffic are in the evening and

the early morning. >> the longer you wait during the rest of the day, more people are just going to be filtering on the road. if you can get a good jump start on the holiday, you'll be out ahead of the crowd. >> some cities with typically heavy traffic are expected to be more congested than usual. including l.a., seattle, houston, atlanta and boston. >> it takes us three hours, it takes us three hours. we're there for the weekend. we'll have a good time. >> some travelers are planning ahead. >> we're not going to go back on sunday, so we're not dealing with the monday traffic. >> with the roads expected to be packed, drive with patience to avoid what's become a nationwide problem, road rage. a new survey finds the most confrontational drivers are in arizona, followed by rhode island, west virginia, virginia, and oklahoma. if you're looking for polite drivers, head to delaware. they're nice there. and many drivers are getting a break at the gas pump. average gas prices now 3.82 a

gallon for aaa, that's close to the same time a year ago. the holiday rush is on at the airports, the tsa expecting to screen more than 14 million passengers this weekend. tom costello, nbc news. we have a lot to cover in our second hour of "chris jansing reports." let's get right to it. t to it. at this hour, new body cam footage in the deadly police shooting of a pregnant woman in ohio. why officers even approached her car and how it quickly escalated. plus, nbc's exclusive new reporting on a white house war room as republicans ramp up threats of an impeachment inquiry. how the biden team is preparing by studying bill clinton's playbook. and in the wake of hurricane idalia, the president set to head to florida. the mind boggling early estimate of the