of education has repeatedly diminished the impact of slavery in their review. in the education process in the state. i would have you back to talk about that. a look for to it, thank you. that's gonna do it for me on this edition of alex witt reports. also you get more at one pm eastern. yasmin vossoughian continues right now. >> ♪ ♪ ♪ hi, everybody. good to see. i'm yasmin vossoughian, a lot happening in the two hours ahead. some breaking news that we're following this hour, the death of former new mexico governor and ambassador, bill richardson, who was critical to the release of so many americans held overseas, we'll have more on that coming up in just a minute. the president on the ground in florida right now. during the devastation and the damage left from hurricane idalia. governor ron desantis injecting politics into this visit, saying he won't meet me with the president while he is

there. >> what happened with the meeting with desantis? -- >> and at nbc news exclusive, the white house preparing a war room to deal with a biden impeachment inquiry being threatened by the house gop. and a new moves by former president donald trump in the georgia case. i'm not guilty plea and an attempt to distance himself legally from his 18 codefendants. all that, plus, another notable death today. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> we've all been singing it all day now. the parent had nation mourning the loss of the legendary jimmy buffett. who turned his beach theme songs into an empire. more on that ahead. we want to start with the breaking news that just dropped in the last few hours or so. former texas new mexico governor, former u.s. ambassador to the u.n., bill richardson, has died at the age of 75. according to a statement from

the richardson center for global engagement, he passed away in his sleep last night at his summer home in chatham, massachusetts. nbc's julie tsirkin joins me now to look back on richardson's five decades of public service. julie, thanks for joining us on this, appreciate it. walk us through his achievements, in the reaction we're hearing from his colleagues? >> yasmin, what a legacy. what a resume governor bill richardson had in his five decades, as you pointed, out of public service. he served six terms in congress, in these hallowed halls. before he was tapped by the clinton administration to be first energy secretary, and then entering the diplomatic ring, when clinton had appointed him as u.s. ambassador to the u.n.. richardson then went on to serve two terms as governor of new mexico, he even launched a presidential bid, becoming the first democrat of hispanic descent to launch a nationwide campaign for president. of course, he drop that campaign sometime after. even, so his perhaps most important work was the nonprofit that he founded after

he left the governor's office in 2000, 11, really bringing his diplomatic efforts in a more formal space. he was not the most public figure when it came to these diplomatic negotiation. of numerous hostages and people wrongly detained, and all corners of the earth, places like iran, bangladesh, north korea, richardson making numerous visits there. he most recently helped aid negotiations in the release of britney griner, the wnba star from russia. that earned him his second nomination for a nobel peace prize by four democratic senators, which included two of new mexico senator, senator lujan and heinrich, both of them coming out with statements today. i wanna read you a few -- lujan saying in part, quote, he was trusted to handle some of the most sensitive diplomatic crises. he did so with great success. here in new mexico, we will always remember him as our governor. lujan actually shared that reaches him not only was a close family friend, and it served with his father in the legislature, but luján himself took over that house seat, once

held by richardson here. we also heard from senator heinrich who said, quote, governor richardson believed in new mexico could do big things. his ambition for our statement he never accepted mediocrity. and always pushed us to fight for the future we deserved. richardson certainly leaving a big hole here with his absence. he had a hand to play in so many different parts of the world. i want to read you a piece of a statement released by the vice president for the richardson center of global engagement. who described richardson as a mentor and dear friend. he said, quote, there's no person that governor richardson would not speak with, if it held the promise of returning a person to freedom. the world has lost a champion for those held unjustly abroad. i think that sentence really encapsulates the work that richardson had done in his fringe diplomacy, playing a hand privately, maybe not in the public sphere, but certainly an important one and bringing so many americans wrongfully detained home. >> julie tsirkin for us, thank, you julie. appreciate it. i wanna continue this

conversation now with jonathan franks. a spokesman and strategist for bring our families home campaign. and has worked closely with richardson on bringing home trevor reed this summer. the former u.s. supreme -- wrongfully detained in russia before being released in a prisoner swap. jonathan, thanks for joining us on this. appreciate it. you know, i'm taking a look at this letter, drafted and signed by senator lujan as julie tsirkin just mentioned. senator manchin, senator heinrich, and senator menendez as well. a recent, this, year nomination of the former governor to the delay governor for a nobel peace prize. you think about that achievement, not the first time he's been nominated, and all the people that he has been brought home as well. talk to me about your experience in getting to know him and what the late governor means to you? >> thanks for having me. i've known the governor since i was a small child. i've gotten to have the honor of watching him behind the scenes at times.

over the past ten years, we worked on a lot of hostage cases together, like you said, including trevor reeds. we are working on travis king right now. and to lose hands, i guess i can't understand understate what a big hole his loss is going to leave in this issue. >> when you think a belt governor richardson, as you said, you've known him since he was, since you are a young boy. what kind of person was he? who was he to you? >> he was a mentor. you, know he was not always the most patient principle, but he always pushed people to do their best work. including, especially me, he was constantly you can do better with this. helping me learn this fringe diplomacy that he pioneered. he was a very willing teacher.

one thing i would say, oftentimes in this space, we're working on problems that others think our unsolvable. the governor had never met a problem he didn't think was solvable. just a question of putting people, the right people's heads together. so we came up with solutions. unsolvable was never an acceptable answer to him. >> what was it that drove the governor to want to focus so much on bringing these folks that were held captive wrongfully abroad home? you look at this long list of individuals, it is really unbelievable when you think about the legacy that he has left behind. as you mentioned, brittney griner, trevor reed, taylor deadly, danny fenster, laura laying, otto warmbier, israeli soldier glad show lead. captured by hamas, for americans held hostage in venezuela. the list goes on and on and on. he has been a part of that release of every single one of those individuals.

what was it in him that drove him to do that? >> i think, when you've had the experience of your first -- for me, at least, it was addictive. there was nobody better than the governor. at these kind of difficult conversations that created pathways to bring people home. i just think that he realized that there was a tremendous need, he realized that it was gifted at doing it. and thank god that he chose to devote his life to this issue. there are a lot of americans that are home from wrongful detention or being held hostage because of him. jonathan franks, i appreciate you joining us on this. and i am so incredibly for your loss, and for this country's loss. certainly, an incredible legacy the governor leaves behind. we're gonna continue to follow the story and the two hours

ahead. i do want to pivot, we're also following the president on the ground in florida surveying the hurricane devastation on the ground there. we're looking at live pictures of marine one, i believe, the president in the helicopter, live oak, florida. this is the second stop that he is making now. amidst his surveying of the damage on the ground, following the hurricane in florida. i want to bring in guad veracious, standing by, as we await the president the first lady to exit that helicopter. guad, talk us through what you've been hearing and seeing on the ground, potentially what the president is seeing in his survey of the damage? >> yasmin, the president is coming here to live oak, as you mentioned. we are at a home, just down the street from where the president is expected to arrive. this is a home that has the same type of damage that the president is going to be

looking at today. a lot of the homes in this area that were damaged by the storm, yasmin, had trees that fell on top of these workers have been working for a while now, trying to remove. it's basically half of a tree that destroyed this home. we spoke to the owners earlier today, who told us they did evacuate before the storm. fortunately, they were in the home in a hurricane hit. they have lost a, lot including their home. here's part of the conversation that i had with stephen, who lives in this home. >> when you returned to your home, and you saw the tree, what went through your mind? >> were homeless. we've got no home. that's the first thought. what am i gonnawas lost for wor. i don't know what to say. where are we gonna live? how my gonna protect my wife? how madonna take care of my dogs? that was home. we can't go in there now. it's unsafe. >> yasmin, when we talk about the recovery, i'm gonna give

you an example of how expensive things are gonna be. so, for him to have this tree removed, he needed to wait for fema to have some type of help, he wanted to do it now. he contacted a local company that came today. he's gonna have to pay about 20 $500, just for the tree to be removed. he now has to figure out what to do with the pieces once they leave him over on the side. just the tree. you can imagine how costly all of these steps are gonna be. the owner told me, steven told, me fema has reached out to him. and they're gonna reach out again with more information, of course, that's gonna take time. we know the president landed in gainesville, he did the aerial tour to see a lot of the damage in the area. then he said to come here to live oak, and look at another home with this type of damage. of course, the president is lobbying for congress to allocate more money for fema, because we know that fema is running out of money with all of this damage, just here in

florida. we still have more of the hurricane season left. that's a big issue. as this cleanup and this recovery continues here, fema is gonna have to figure out the issues with the funds. for now, president biden is in florida. by the way, a lot of talk about him meeting up with ron desantis, biden had said he would meet up with ron desantis yesterday. the governor's office informed us he would not meet with joe biden. with president joe biden. they indicated that the logistics for the president to come through this area would complicate that recovery. the president, the spokesperson with the federal government, did tell us they chose this location precisely, because this is a larger community where the cleanup has already begun. yasmin, a lot of the streets have been cleared, it's much easier to access live oak online for him to come in and see things on the ground. whereas, the most affected communities he saw from the air. yasmin? >> we know, obviously, the fema administrator we saw images of

fema administrator as well. meeting with the president. a little bit earlier today. i believe she is also touring the community as well alongside the president. they've been in constant contact. having covered many of these natural disasters as, well i know how incredibly daunting it is, guad, for so many individuals. having to pick up the pieces after it seems their lives have been shattered into so many pieces. we're watching marine one there, and the president, likely exiting soon, along with the first lady as well as surveying the damage in live oak. just down the street from her guad is talking to us from. i believe that's the president stepping outside the helicopter now, along with first lady dr. jill biden as well to make their way to their vehicles likely. and then their make their way over to live oak, where guad venegas is standing by for us. guad, as we're looking at these images of the president. he had a survey a couple of natural disasters in the last couple of weeks. obviously, florida, he was in

maui as well. not that long ago. the incredible devastation that hawaii is faced over the last few months from the wildfires there. what do individuals in that community want to hear from this president right now? they welcome him to that community? aside, of course, from the florida governor. to they welcome him to that community? what do they want to hear from him when it comes to clean up and help? >> yasmin, i'll give you an example. the homeowner that we spoke to, stephen, he did say that this is an area with strong republican support. the first thing he said to me, when we talk about president biden, he said, look, politics are placed aside. i'm happy that the president is coming in. i'm hoping that that's gonna bring in a lot of help. because he says there's other smaller communities, rural communities, that need that help. so, they want the president to bring in help that's gonna be needed for this recovery. they are happy to see him come. of course, this whole conversation of whether or not he would meet with the governor, governor ron desantis, that's not really on their mind. they're very grateful for the

work that the state has done. and the neighbors also tell, me they're very grateful to have the president. here >> listen, a lot of times in situations like this, it definitely should not be about politics. and we've seen that before when it comes to recovery crossing political lines, to just get the job done. and make sure you're getting the help to the community that these community members need right now, hopefully, that is the intention of everybody that is involved, as we continue to look at these pictures. the president and the first lady, unsure of who they're chatting with their, making their way to the vehicle to then drive over to an area near where guad is standing to survey the damage in live oak, florida, after the damage done by hurricane idalia. we'll continue to follow these images and the president there on the ground in florida. we have also some breaking news that we're following as well, of course, that is the death of governor bill richardson. we're gonna continue to bring you updates on that as well as we get them.

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i find this really fascinating, the way in which chesebro wants to make sure he is separated, specifically from sydney powell. i want to read for you from the filing. saying in part, mr. chesebro has never physically met city powell. mr. chesebro has never sent an email to ms. powell. mr. chesebro has never received an email from ms. powell. mr. chesebro has never communicated with ms. powell through any social media or telecommunications application. what do you make of the wording of this filing? and his attempts to separate himself, sever himself, of course, from sydney powell? >> i yasmin, the thing that people have to understand all of these defendants are gonna go through their individual, legal maneuvers. with each of their defense teams, to try to separate themselves from everyone. i expect that this is ultimately going to turn into a battle royal of let's throw everybody under the bus. chesebro's case right now, both he and sidney powell are the

defendants that have put in the speedy trial notice. noting that they want their trust to be accelerated, they want to move forward as quickly as possible. so, because of that, she's the main one that he wants to differentiate himself from. because he's basically saying to the d.a.'s office, to fani willis, listen, i'm not going to prove your case for. you are not gonna make your life any easier. ultimately, people have to understand that, this, in the grand scheme of things, is something that donald trump, as the chief defendant, here is sitting back and watching unfold. it helps him understand the different recalibration's that fani willis's office is going to have to make in order to try and decide how she tries these individuals, instead of being up to try all of them at once. if you recall, during the initial press conference, when the indictment was announced, she said you want to try all 19 events together. as ambitious that might have been, i did not think that was realistic. now that you're seeing these things play out, it's giving donald trump an opportunity to see how he wants to move. also giving him an opportunity

for for the delay. >> so, is this, in a way, part of his defense team figuring out what the best defense is? watching these other 18 codefendants trials potentially play out before or his? and really, how can they realistically rely on that actually happening? >> well, remember, it is a rico case. so, they're not going to be necessarily able to present the information or the evidence against one codefendant, without the same charges at least getting into what the other codefendants did. so, you'll have number one, the opportunity to discovery to learn what it is that they have. but then, through these other individuals being tried earlier, you'll be able to understand and see, from a theory of the case standpoint, how they intend to use what they have. you'll get what they have during discovery, and then you'll see how they intend to use that. in these earlier trials. it is something that donald trump's team, as well as the other defendants as well, are gonna be watching to see how this unfolds. and then craft strategies to

respond. >> one of the overarching questions that i was asking from the job of all, this was alvin bragg according with jack smith, was jack smith courting with fani willis? were they having communications? the various offices. you've got a civil case in new york, federal criminal charges coming out of jack smith's cases. you've got the case in georgia as well. if you're looking at the trial schedule ahead, the election calendar ahead as well, can we expect some coordination when it comes to these trial dates? considering the fact that the former president is facing four separate pieces here. >> not likely, yasmin. that's going to be up to the judge for them to understand and them to make those decisions. i don't expect that the prosecutors are gonna be ultimately too concerned about what other cases they have going on in jurisdictions. listen, it's important to remember, defendants oftentimes have different cases in different jurisdictions and at different levels. the federal judge, federal

judges, in the state judges, can in florida, chutkan in d.c., they're going to navigate around each other's schedule. they're not gonna be worried about the judge in new york, or what's going on there. they're not gonna be worried about the civil matters. they're not gonna be worried about going on in georgia. each of those cases is at a different level. and they're going to be maneuvered around each other, to the extent that the judges need to make those decisions, not the prosecutors. as far as the judges may making those decisions, they're gonna be, of course, be understanding of when he's on trial, because you cannot be on trial in two places at the same time. other than that, they're going to be thinking about, this individual case before, them what's the anticipated length of discovery? what is a fair amount of time for both sides to be able to prepare. and then they're gonna put this on the calendar, with very little regard, other than like i, said overlapping an actual trial. for what else is going on in donald trump's legal world. >> let me ask you this, some new developments when it comes to rudy giuliani. being held liable now in a defamation lawsuit.

admitting, i want to read this for, you conceding that he made these false statements about a mother and daughter who sued him for baselessly claiming they committed fraud in the 2020 election. is that could have any impact, if at all, on the case against him in georgia, along with the case against the former president? >> absolutely. his charges against ruby freeman and shaye moss, in terms of their involvement with this indictment are one of the most intriguing parts, timmy, of what it is that he's been charged with. now that he has this admission, i would fully expect that prosecutors are going to look to have that admitted into evidence. and use that in terms of furthering -- convict him in that regard. that's a very significant piece of evidence, and information the prosecutors are going to look to put into evidence against. tim >> charles coleman, sir, as always, we're thankful for you. before summer, unofficially comes to a close, said, millions of americans are

squeezing in one last holiday, more than one third of the countries -- expected to take to the skies. and hit the roads this labor day weekend. msnbc's mrsa parra joining us now from miami international. details of summer's last hurrah. talk to us, any major issues you're seeing, concerns here when you look at the top tourist destinations and people wanting to get one last getaway in? >> well, hey, yasmin. sad to see summer say it's farewell. happy to report that so far, things are looking good. particularly here in miami international airport. over at jfk for the north, we heard of some issues with passport control. which was impacting international travelers. really, beyond that, minimal cancellations and delays nationwide here. we're expecting a tsa -- projecting 14 million travelers taking to the skies for this long holiday weekend. 150 million expected to be traveling overall throughout this three day weekend.

we know the majority of them actually take to ground. travel it's traveling by car. we had a chance to speak to a few drivers about their plans for the weekend, not just with travel, but how they're planning on spending the holiday overall. take a listen. >> when we get home, will not leave our house. because the traffic around our neighborhood will be so much, it's not even worth it to leave the house. >> we're gonna go back on sunday, so we're not dealing with a monday traffic. >> the biggest thing is distractions, mostly the cell phone, the thing you see. we're setting up higher. we can see those things. everybody be safe, maintain your distance. maintain your speed. keep your eyes open. keep distractions down. that'll make it easier, safer for you guys, and make it easier and safer for us. >> we're talking about national travel, here's an interesting statistics, i want to show you what international travel is looking like. international hotel bookings up 82%. you're gonna see that on your screen in just a second here.

you're gonna see international cruise bookings up 44% from last year. and this is more or less the same of what we've been seeing with a lot of holidays this year. we saw the story memorial day weekend. we saw the stern july 4th. and when we had a chance to speak to experts with aaa, they said that a lot of this comes from the fact that people canceled their international holiday travel plans during the pandemic. there is a lot of restrictions because of covid during the pandemic, during the last two years. this is the year that people who put those plans on hold say, okay, we're gonna take to the skies, we're gonna go and see the world. do those things that we had put on hold during the pandemic. so, a lot of changes that we're seeing, we're expecting record travel numbers, again, the same we've seen throughout the holiday's throughout the year, yasmin. allowed the, some other good news for you. gas prices looking about the same this time today as they were this time last year. finally, for those of you who are taking to the roads, or however you're traveling, the best times to travel after six pm today. through sunday.

and then monday after seven pm. yasmin, i will add this to, we know that there was a lot of people who have decided to do remote working, the three day in person, in office workdays, a lot of those travel statistics have changed. it'll be interesting to see how those change for this labor day weekend, compared to pre-pandemic levels as well. >> you notice, when it comes to traffic to, anna roadways as well, you always expect more traffic on fridays, if you're going somewhere. nowadays, it seems as if people want to get out of town on thursdays. and then you come back on a tuesday after labor day. versus on monday. because they're able to remote work. which makes things more flexible. one person is not traveling, maybe. i'm gonna be right here. so, if you're home, you're getting cozy on this labor day weekend. just watch us here on msnbc. marissa power for us, thank you. appreciated. coming, up msnbc exclusive, white house setting up a war room to deal with the threatened biden impeachment. and i want to let you know something very important to me, a half hour special tomorrow,

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>> yasmin, i do think it's notable that instead of really brushing off these talks of an impeachment inquiry from house republicans, which i could've done, the white house is instead really driving ahead on right into this. people familiar with these plans say the white house began technically preparing when the republicans won back the majority in the house of representatives back in november. really, preparing started in earnest at the beginning of august. that's when the white house counsel's office started staffing, up essentially, a war room of lawyers, of communications aids, of legislative aides, to be able to, essentially, build a counter messaging firewall around the president and the white house. to protect him from, not just this impeachment inquiry, but also other house gop led investigations. staffers right now, fine-tuning their messaging there honing in on what that messaging is going to be. they're also fact-checking what

republicans are calling evidence in justification to be able to present this impeachment inquiry. remember, house speaker kevin mccarthy has said, this would focus on what what he calls, quote, a culture of corruption within the biden family. that's despite some house republican saying, there's really no there there. there's no direct connection between president biden and any wrongdoing. so, white house aides are pointing to that, they're saying this isn't even comparable to any past impeachment inquiries. despite, that they're looking towards the 1998 impeachment effort from republicans on then president bill clinton for some guidance or a road map on how to bolster the aggressiveness of this disk defense strategy. we've already seen some messaging coming out of the white house, defending the president on this. i'd expect that to only grow sharper, yasmin. as we get deeper into september, and it is a real possibility that this impeachment inquiry coincides with that fight to fund the government, and that deadline coming up in the end

of the month. yasmin? >> we've been hearing threats from marjorie taylor green, especially. we were getting into just a moment. allie raffa for, us thank you. appreciate. i want to bring in susan del percio, republican strategist and an msnbc political analyst. danielle moodie, who hosts the woke af daily podcast. in addition to poke ghosting both -- democracy-ish podcast, just a podcast queen in general. and overall. danielle, as always, i want to start with you. not as always, our minister with. you give me your reaction to this war room situation. the biden administration essentially, saying we're preparing for an impeachment inquiry. >> yeah, one i think it's smart i think the biden administration needs to be prepared for any of the nonsense the republican party is going to be throwing at them. it's not -- there is no opportunity, in no room for the biden administration to take the actions that the republicans are doing. lightly. we see what happens when they're allowed to run away with a communications and pr

campaign that sticks to nonsense. which this absolutely is. i think they need to have a robust and rigorous rebuttal, every single time. they are charged with something that marjorie taylor greene is pulling out of thin air. >> speaker mccarthy, susan, has said that an impeachment inquiry is a, quote, natural step forward. right? >> i was gonna say, it's a natural step for him, if he wants to stay speaker. >> okay. with that being said, when you're thinking about heading into a 2024 election, how does something like this, you think, land with republican voters, if, in fact that is the direction they're moving in. especially considering the threats we've been hearing from marjorie taylor greene saying, we're not gonna fund the government unless you launch an impeachment inquiry. >> well, marjorie taylor greene's threat is really quite empty. they'll never come to a compromise in the house and the

senate. if mccarthy doesn't get democrats on board, there is no deal that the freedom caucus will accept. so, they're gonna vote against funding the government, that's, they don't care if they're in the majority. that's there just happy with their gig. that's what they're gonna stay with. but politically, we keep talking about those 17 congressional seats that are in swing districts. districts that biden won. they are not even sure they have all of the votes to get the impeachment inquiry going forward. a lot of those folks don't want to see this. i think the other thing that's going to make people wonder, is with this great reporting by ali on the war room efforts by biden, i think biden's just gonna outmaneuver them. let's face it, these hearings that the republicans have had thus far have been a joke. we have one witness who is on the lam, another one who doesn't remember, one person or says, no, nothing bad happened. so, it'll be interesting to see how it plays out.

>> how do you, daniel, outmaneuver them? how do you outmaneuver, as a biden administration sees it, the fringe that are pursuing an impeachment inquiry, aside from, of course, this war room in which you developed this pr came campaign to respond to any sort of impeachment inquiry. >> well, it's not hard to outmaneuver people that are playing checkers, when you're playing chess. but i think that the important thing for the biden administration to do is to ask the republican party, what are you offering the american people? this is a very simple question. so, why they put their attention on an impeachment inquiry that has no legs and has no foundation are as baseless. ask them what they're doing for the american people. how do they plan to fight climate change? how do they plan to better our public education system, and actually make kids competitive instead of taking books off the shelves in the nine truth and facts. how do they plan to move this country forward in the 21st century, is there trying to pull it back in the 20th

century. those are real questions that every day americans want answers to. and the thing, is when opposed directly to the republican party, they come up with nothing. remember, yasmin, back in 2020, they didn't even come up with their agenda for america. they said, let us read what we did in 2016, see if that works. >> i want to pivot, susan, if we can, just for a moment. they were watching these images, we know the president on the ground in florida, surveying the damage from hurricane idalia. we also know florida governor ron desantis is running for president of the united states. currently in the primary challenge of his life, i think the latest polling showing him 40 percentage points below former president donald trump. not meeting with president biden on the ground there, what do you make of that? >> it's foolish. let's face, it ron desantis's time as a presidential candidate is done. he's not coming back from that deficit. if there is a challenger to donald trump, it will not be

from around desantis. it will be from someone else. so, ron desantis is actually missing a great opportunity to get funding for his state, and i shouldn't say he won't get the funding, but show leadership. do something at home. work with the president. it's not the worst thing. >> susan del percio, thank you, danielle moodie, thank you as well. in our next hour, democratic congresswoman debbie dingell on the republicans push for impeachment, and changes in latitudes and changes in attitudes. for parrot heads around the world. as they mourn the loss of legendary musician, jimmy buffett. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ to get lost in investment research. get help with j.p morgan personal advisors.

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to follow the president and the first lady, as well, you can see, i believe, that it's administrator, chris well, as well. they are meeting at an elementary school on the ground there live in florida as the president is serving the damage from hurricane idalia getting a briefing from local officials there, and the administrator as well to figure out the needs on the ground. we want to listen with the president who is speaking now. >> [inaudible] i appreciate

the. i told them -- i warned everyone -- [laughter] . >> first off, the president fit -- that was a big deal. then with how fast you approved the individual systems, the public assistance is a big deal. these are not rich communities. these are many of them struggle so when the federal government is doing, it is a big deal. so i thank you for doing that. >> kind of like my neighbor. i noticed that in delaware, a four billion dollar industry,

we have so many more chickens than people. >> all right, mister mayor? >> as the president i would like to welcome you to the beautiful county. thank you for coming and shining a light on this event. so this is the biggest storm that i am aware of. at least in my lifetime in our county. thank you so much. i agree with senator scott that we were very quick to declare an area to help the funds to continue to flood to us. i met mr. otis spencer who has been here from day one. we had a great conversation with him but also we are proud today. we have seen that he's at his computer doing his work but i think him because he has been here from day one. he said we are here to do whatever needs to be done. thank you for bringing

attention and bringing the first lady because you know it is important. you are showing us that it is very important. so thank you again. thank you again for that. i wanted to just take my time to say thank you to all of the federal people who are helping us. the state people, local people, all of these men and women who represent all of those who have been having little sleep, they will say that. but not much refs, they've been working feverish will. they represent all of these people that we do not see. the first responders, the search and rescue, all of those people. we are humbled by the number of volunteers that have come in from both states to help us. many volunteers are doing their time. and we are grateful for that.

so we are also grateful that this could have been worse. as far as i know, there was no loss of life or serious injury. we are very thankful for that but as the senator said, we are not one of the richest counties, and there are people who are suffering. and the humidity is pretty bad here. no air conditioning, no power. hopefully we will have all of that up and running soon. thank you for coming, we appreciate it. >> thank you. >> i would like to ask mr. white to come forward? >> we appreciate you all coming. we thank you for being here in this county. we appreciate all of the assistance that is coming here. as you can see, it is pretty

much our idea, we would just like to thank you. our search and rescue with no reports of fatalities. it is duke energy, as well as other contractors in this county. if you contact local businesses, and more convenient stories for gas, that is -- i would just like to think the census. that has been a thing where citizens got out, and they helped remove a tree off of a house, and they couldn't get out of it, people are just getting out to help themselves. that is pretty amazing.

thank you for that, we appreciate it. >> i just want to reiterate what they said. thank you where we stand right now, our search and rescue was throughout the counties, 100% today. our communications, obviously, they stand and continue to get better every day. our city utilities, they are up 100%, so forth on the back of generator. i don't have a very accurate number of where are situation stands. it is probably 75%.

again, i can't thank you all enough for being here. i said we are really economically challenged area, and the help that has come in, it is bittersweet. i can't say thank you enough. >> all right, we lost our audio feed. dan criswell, meeting with local officials here, in elementary school, the president, of course, surveying the damage, and hearing about the damage on the ground here. very hard hit from hurricane idalia. you saw and heard local officials thanking the president. the first lady profusely, for making the visit, but also for

declaring emergency declarations pretty quickly. did you just tell me that you had the feedback up or is it not up again? so our feed is ah frozen right now. we will continue to monitor the president on the ground there. and when we get the feedback up we will bring it to you. but again, the president on the ground in florida, that elementary school i believe is being used as an area for folks to shelter. they are caught set up in the hallways, in which our law cameras, the news people following the president right now, with elderly people as well, and some folks lost their homes, and it is the latest hurricane there. a community that they said themselves is certainly in need and thankful to the administration for declaring an

emergency declaration so quickly. all right, we will pivot here because there's been a lot of breaking news today. i want to talk about jimmy buffett. the iconic singer known best for his smash hit, margaritaville. dying at the age of 76. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> we all know that song, we've been singing it all day, according to a statement released on his official website, the legendary entertainer known for his tropical vacation inspired music and lay back peacefully surrounded by his family, friends, music, and dog. they are telling tmz that he had cancer when he died but it is not clear if that is what caused his death. here is what he told nbc back in 2018 about what made his music so special. >> i think everybody needs a little escapism. you know, a stockbroker, a hedge fund manager, you see people coming from work taking their eye ties off and putting

their why insures over their suits. >> joining me is suzanne calhoun. thank you for joining us today. we appreciate it. we are just getting the president on the ground in florida and he did released a statement about the passing of jamie buffett saying over more than 50 studio and live albums and thousands of performances to devoted people around the world. jamie reminded us how much the simple things and life mattered. the people we love, the places we are, from the hopes we have on the horizon. what has been your reaction to this news and what is jimmy buffett, his music, his art, need to do? >> i will try to get through this. it is very important in our world today. i started following jimmy back in the mid 70s. i was in high school. his music was just different than anything else that they played. it resonated with my soul.

and i stuck with it. through the years, i have attended 30 or so concerts, even when i was out of the country, i would try to tune in to margaritaville to watch him. the lifestyle, you know, he changed our lives in terms of thinking about an escapism type of lifestyle. islands, beaches, he is absolutely right. people would come from work and change in their cars or whatever, at concerts, so the events were epic. and we will continue to carry on what he has focused on. >> everybody knows his music. he spends the world really, when his songs come on, everybody can sing along. just so iconic. his legacy will really live on forever through his music. suzanne, we will be hearing from other artists as well.

i know that we heard from elton john earlier today as well releasing a statement amidst the passing of jimmy buffett. have you heard of any tributes and specials that may be happening to dedicate to jimmy buffett's life and legacy? >> actually, yes. we have an event going on at the ball room up in iowa called leadership bathe. and what they did was they changed their schedule to make a tribute to jimmy. but we have a lot of our music, and so, they did a tribute to him. you know, people do not really know about what everyone does. they know about jimmy, but they don't know the other side to make sometimes. and they don't realize all of the work that we do, because he has made charity work.

we do a big convention and in october for 20 plus years, it will be offshore's this year. so, we train our love leaders, and we have a lot of amazing music. this year, we will be doing a tribute where we will be in the backyard where he grew up. so it will be a very special ear for us. >> suzanne calhoun, i am sorry for your loss. for every jimmy buffett lovers robert loss today. his legacy will live on from his art and through his music which we are all singing in our heads today after hearing his passing. susan calhoun, thank you so much, appreciate it. we have got a lot more coming up, we are watching msnbc our second hour starts right now.

r starts right now >> hi everybody, i am yasmin vossoughian, if you are just joining, us welcome. if you are sticking with us, we are certainly grateful for that. there is reaction pulling into the breaking news today. the death of the former new mexico governor who negotiated the release of americans held overseas. the president also said to speak about an hour from now, as he towards the devastation left behind from hurricane adalja. one person who will not be there, getting a federal disaster relief and a live report coming up next. and in one house, republicans are saying they are threatening to shut down the government unless they get to impeach joe biden. >> i have already decided that i will not vote to fund the government unless