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fulton county district attorney fani willis in georgia and showing the nation what accountability looks like. former president trump is facing criminal charges for his attempts to subvert the 2020 election in the peach state. he has pleaded not guilty to 13 criminal charges. and that includes racketeering and conspiracy. the eyewitness is now facing political attacks for doing her job and standing up for the rule of law. georgia state senator colton moore spurred on by former president trump has launched an effort to investigate and potentially impeach her. he sent a letter to governor brian kemp accusing gia willis of targeting political opponents. asking for a special session to review her actions. he forcefully shot that idea down on thursday. >> in my mind a special session of the general assembly to and and run around this law is not

feasible and it may ultimately prove to be an unconstitutional. the bottom line is that in the state of georgia as long as i am governor we are going to follow the law in the constitution. regardless of who it helps or harms politically. >> it is important to note that senator moore would need democratic support for any impeachment measure. let's just not happening. but once my point, governor kemp has shown repeatedly it is not hard to speak the truth when it comes to donald trump's election lies. and just follow the law. you may not like governor kemp and you may agree with some of the other policies that he is back into a peach state. capitol the republicans in georgia brad raffensperger berger and, former lieutenant governor jeff duncan, they have resisted donald trump in ways that others in the republican party have. not kemp love no readout about

his position >> up to this point i've not seen any evidence that the d.a. willis's accents or lack thereof. -- oversight commission. >> the governor is referring to committee or commission spawned by 2023 bill that he signed into law which will of the power to a discipline and remove prosecutors show they find their performance lacking. it's also been found another way to potentially oust d.a. willis. she oppose the bill on february saying quote, i'm tired and i'm just going to call it how i see it. i quite frankly think the legislation is racist. i don't know what other thing to call it. for georgia district attorneys, willis not included, have sued to block the panels establishments supported by the public rights project. they argue that to the governor and the legislature cannot dictate prosecution rules because the georgia constitution places district attorneys in the state's judicial branch making the law

violate the constitutional separation of powers. and that the mandates to examine low level offenses also distracts prosecutors for more serious crimes. jill hey big joins me now. she is the founder and president of the public rights project which is leading the charge to stop s t 92 from taking effect. jill, it is good to see you. can you tell us where the challenge stands right now? >> yes. so, the public rights project is representing bipartisan coalition industry to chinese led by sherrie boston. and we just filed a preliminary injunction motion a couple of weeks ago. basically asking the courts to stop the commission from initiating any investigations or disciplinary proceedings. we are waiting on the court to set a hearing on that motion. and we hope to have that motion resolved by october 1st which is when they commission is currently slated to start

receiving complaints and initiating investigations. >> so jill, if you organizations lawsuit is unsuccessful could this commission be a vehicle to punish and remove fani willis? >> absolutely. our problem with this commission and the reason why we filed this lawsuit in the first places that gives essentially a blank check to a partisan commission. democrats are no role in appointing members of this commission. and the commission has brought -- to investigate and discipline and even remove prosecutors for a full decade to despite those prosecutors being duly elected by their own voters. and it has really a broad carrot serious to initiate the stark discipline. for example, it can discipline prosecutors for conduct that quote, brings the office into disrepute. in the eyes of the partisan officials who created this commission. so we have a lot of concerns

with this commission in addition to separation of powers. it also is a tool to retaliate against prosecutors for free speech. it can punish prosecutors for being honest with their own voters about their priorities. for how to use their limited resources and the criminal justice system. and it really has almost a blank check to remove prosecutors just for doing their jobs. >> on the one hand that governor kemp signed this bill. but now he is speaking out against it. do you think that the governor is doing enough to protect d a fani willis in this case? >> let's be clear. you mentioned the political climate for republicans and trump's across the country. and the georgia republican standing up for the rule of law, governor kemp's, those comments are welcome. but the problem is there a little or too late, he's already opened pandora's box by creating this mission in the

first place. he only controls 25% of appointments to the commission. his demons did not really change the fact that he already created a cool for -- tool for partisan retaliation and prosecute in this state. >> the really seemed to be a broader issue at hand across the country of political attacks on independent prosecutors. the organization is still playing in georgia. two prosecutors arrested by governor ron desantis in florida. i would know because governor ron desantis is also running for president and you got donald trump who's really posted very derogatory comments about every single lawyer or prosecutors investigated him. is this happening more often in our political landscape and has always been happening quietly for a long time and we just weren't paying attention? >> this is absolutely a new triad and georgia's ground

zero. it's not. allowing the public rights project is been tracking this trend for over a year. over a third of states have considered to constrain and retaliate against prosecutors we've been active in fights in tennessee. florida, as you mentioned, texas and mississippi and others. it's important to recognize the landscape that is igniting this backlash. a number of prosecutors often black woman elected by voters often high in black and brown voters. who have finally started winning these elections to elect prosecutors to think a little bit differently about public safety and are prioritizing serious crime. this is a trend that has racial and partisan overtones across the country. >> jill, jill hall, big thank you so much. i will just note some of this

just seems so and democratic to me. we'll be following this story. looking ahead to this three-week in georgia seven codefendant still have to appear in fulton county in the courtroom for an arraignment on wednesday. or they have to wave that right and enter a plea. 12 including former president trump have already done that. all pleading not guilty. legal panelist ending abide to break it all down. cms ellipse here washing correspondent for the -- constitution and the former federal prosecutor and contributing writer for politico. we will get to the writing later today. téa, i want to start with georgia and do a follow-up on this conversation about the commission. but first actually heard about this commission in georgia and a conversation with you here on msnbc. where do things currently stand with the makeup of the commission and their start date? jill noted looking towards october, right? >> that's when the commission starts. the governor, the lieutenant

governor who is the head of the senate and the house speaker are who gets to appoint the members of the commission. and then there will also be a separate three member panel that will match out punishment if the five member commission deems that there is a prosecutor who needs to be reprimanded. but all of that is still the commission in its formation stages. and when we are hearing about fani willis and his other district attorneys there are people who are already saying, go ahead and start filing your complaints against fani willis. start getting your complaints together. so that as soon as the commission starts in october, they have cases or have investigations that they're being asked to began. >> so along these lines you have some new reporting for the atlanta journal-constitution about the infighting amongst republicans. given in the state house as republicans react to senator kolten moore's request, if you

will, on his efforts to remove anti fraud, if you will, the a fani willis. talk to us about the infighting, where is this all shaken down? >> it is shaking down the lieutenant governor who was the head of the senate. they are speaker, of course the house. and you have governor kemp. they are all republicans and quite frankly the lieutenant governor is pretty conservative. he is one of the alternate electors. he was one of the alternate electors. but all three of them are saying, hey let's slow down on this special. there is a state senator who said he thinks there should be a special session. so the members can come back and decide whether to impeach fani willis or not. and that's where the infighting is. the people who are saying have a special session, there are not a lot of them back what the state senator colton moore saying is that he represents the grassroots. and he is saying it is in contrast with people like governor kemp, speaker,

bernstein and governor jones, who are representing, so to speak the establishment. >> all. right we'll be watching that. before we move to some of these other developments in georgia, is there a role with the department justice that can play here about the targeting of these local duly elected prosecutors? someone argued this is a civil rights issue. >> i think it'll be hard for the justice department find a way to get involved here. simply because we have a federal system here and we try to dry start sharp distinction where appropriate between federal government and the state government. and i find it hard to believe that the justice department really taken assertive role here and trying to intercede. particularly because it does appear that for the moment to the political channels are going to sort of remain -- and protect the dna against an ever that i think is kind of preposterous. >> let's talk about mark meadows and his efforts to get his case removed from state court to federal court. he's the former chief of staff

to donald trump and he's actually arguing that there. there is an exchange between meadows and his lawyer. about the coordination of state electors. and his lawyer asked why he cared about flagging into the campaign. and mark meadows basically says he was worried if he did not that he might get yelled at. by the former president. >> what did mark meadows testimony will reveal to you, and do you think he should've taken the witness stand? >> i don't think it was wise to take the witness stand because he is now locked into a whole bunch of statements that he can't now run away from. if he goes to trial. as for the testimony itself, he is a very aggressive legal theory. it might be enough to get him into federal court, we cannot confuse these. do but effectively, we saw in the exit that you just put that, his defense is at everything he, did doing it for donald trump and therefore was connected to my official duties and chief of staff they should move into federal court. it belongs in federal court, i

don't. they this is an area where there was not a whole lot of law or precedent for the judge to region two. and obviously this is a truly unique set of facts. it's not something that any drought has ever confronted before. so the judge has been asking some questions in the course of -- and issuing some orders but it's hard to predict how it will shake out. >> i want to take a listen to donald trump's lawyer's lawyers spokesperson. which is a. thinning her lip name is elena ha, but she was talking about this last week. she was asked about donald trump's preparation for trial and all the cases and i'm happy to hear what she had to say. >> president trump is not your average person. he knows the ropes knows the facts because you love them. this is not complicated facts. look at fani. it was a phone call that's been around forever and he refers to is the perfect phone. call what is going to be prepped? for the truth?

there's not much to be prepped for when you've done nothing wrong. >> doesn't this undercut the argument in georgia, and in some of these other cases, the fact that donald trump needs time to prepare? >> while, it's not helpful to be going out and saying that he knows all the stuff, whatever he's prepared to do, any conversation on the puppet at the drop of a hat. those comments will prevent his lawyers from taking a different position within the courtroom but this is been a running theme from the legal defense that people in court managing the best to manage a criminal defense on his behalf. i'm people in the media -- that they think will help him get back to office which will help wash this away. >> it's fani willis and her team watching statements such as these? >> they're watching. i think they're trying to keep tabs on everything. i agree with on cash on what said on the panel on conservative tv is much different that one's attorneys

may be saying in the courtroom. d.a. willis is gonna mostly be responding to what trump's attorneys are saying in the filings. and what my hearings may come up in the case. >> this is why we have the professionals to tell us about a. pm itches -- thank you very much. we appreciate your time. up next, more republican seem to be the party of pyrotechnics over policy. and i mean you could say i'm being dramatic but how could you explain vivek ramaswamy colin ayanna pressley a quote, modern grand was out of the kkk. how he responded when al sharpton pressed about that comment is next. but first richard lui, our bestie is here with today's other top news stories. richard, what's going on out there? >> simone, good sunday for. you deadly chaos at the burning man festival. one death being investigated. the annual music and arts festival in the nevada desert.

the persons identity has not been released yet. the estimated 70,000 attendees were asked to shelter and conserve food and water amid heavy rain and flooding there. a convicted murderer on the loose was spotted in philadelphia. he escape from an area prison thursday. his surveillance camera caught danelo cavalcante, saturday morning a mile and a half from the president. he was convicted in august and sentenced to life without parole for staffing his former girlfriend. house speaker kevin mccarthy pledged continue congressional support for hawaii after touring fire damage on miley. he also met with survivors and first responders during saturday's tour. he stressed the importance of moving forward in a culturally sensitive way. 122 people are still unaccounted for with 115 confirmed dead. more symone, right after this break. fter thi break. ...because t-mobile helps pano ai innovate, so they can stop the spread of wildfires.

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in full swing, people. former president donald trump is pulling dozens of points ahead of his rivals. some of those opponents are now trying desperately to poach some of his support. and that desperation is probably why your hearing dangerous rhetoric like this. >> ayanna pressley, she's a member of the squad, her words not mine. we don't want any more black faces that don't want to be a black voice. -- wrote the book, how to be anti racist this is what it says, opening the lies, the remedy to past discrimination is present discrimination. these aren't my words. these are the words of the modern grand wizards of the modern kkk. >> to be very clear, the grand wizards of the clue of clan led a charge to intimidate, terrorize, and slaughter black people. they are the original domestic

terrorists. according to businessman republican candidate, vivek ramaswamy, the words of a black woman member of congress and -- some black americans are equal to the actions of that group. it's ridiculous. but around swarming was being serious. but he doesn't seem to understand is that there is a modern ku klux klan, it's called the ku klux klan, while the hate groups numbers have declined over the nears the law center found at least ten active kkk associated groups in 2022. not to mention, just last, week in jacksonville, florida, three black people were murdered at $1 general because they were black. even after that, ramaswamy is doubling down on his deliberate incendiary rhetoric. let's get my panel on here to discuss, -- political strategist and the 2020 georgia senate runoff director. and the chairman is here, michael steele, msnbc political

analyst and former chairman of the republican national committee. welcome, welcome, welcome. i don't know if you saw it. i'm gonna play it for the folks at home. the exchange between ramaswamy and the great reverend al sharpton about these comments, nicholas and. >> yes, i do think there are echoes of a historical ugly racism in this country showing up -- >> to say we don't, wait, just a second. to say we do not want voices. to say that is not going with sheets and burning crosses, and lynching people. if she said something. >> the point i'm making. >> you cannot equate grand wizard of the ku klux klan with somebody saying something that you think is a literal controversial, a little too far. >> mister chairman, the statements have nothing to do with actual policy. nothing to do with ramaswamy's vision, that he would execute

if he were elected. it was just incendiary. is that what passes for our republican party presidential candidate nowadays? >> no one's talking about a platform. the platte party has no platform. they didn't put one in pace in the 2020 convention. done with trump didn't put wanted. we don't have one. the convention needs to come up with something possibly next year. ramaswamy is a fool. i say this and we'll keep repeating it. you need to stop playing with a bright shiny objects. they will hurt you. and the reality of it is he's the latest bright shiny object. he's mimicking and parroting the trump narrative to his greatest ability, to try and catch fire but more important to get himself as trump duly noted on trump's ticket. bottom line, that's not happening either. but that's not the play. when you sit up here and you

say something as a namely stupid, as comparing any black member of congress because you disagree with their political point of view as equivalent to the grand message of the kkk. you show yourself to be a fool, period. there's no other explanation that we need to stop talking about and move on from foolishness. we're giving it way too much credibility. and way too much air time. stupid remain stupid is stupid. the more you elevate it, the more stupid it becomes. not for them but for us, for engaging in it. i saw that, walked away and i went, it's not worth my time. >> i felt like this was a rundown today, michael, talking about questions. that's what i wanted to talk about. there are folks out here that's a, vivek ramaswamy and folks like i'm they're just looking for attention.

and we should ignore them. on the one hand i agree with that, on the other hand i remember when we did not take the things that donald trump, i did not take the things donald trump said seriously in 2015, and early 2016. i woke up at 3 am on election day to be, how and that is donald trump the next president of the united states of america. do you think democrats can do more to hold these -- rhetoric like this, china light on who they really are instead of just ignoring it, or do you agree with mr. camp? >> well, symone, this is an example of both things being true. it's both the case that we should call out this type of divisive rhetoric. it is dangerous. it has no place in our political discourse in conversations. regardless of who it's coming from. and especially not a president of someone who's running for president of the united states. we should continue to call it out. but it's also true that this is someone who's grasping for soundbites. he wants to make sure that he's

making headlines, people are listening to him, but he's raising money. so he's filling a page or two from trump's playbook. but that doesn't mean that we should let this slide. it doesn't mean that we should say, he's just talking. this rhetoric is dangerous. especially in the wake of the lies that have been taken most recent shootings. we know that there are people in this country who are very motivated by these types of words when when they hear them. that's not something that i think that we should just let slide or say, it's just talk. >> i was gonna do a social thing on this later. i'm gonna clip what you all said and masha together. you said it better than i ever could. i want to talk about new hampshire for a second. governor chris sununu was on -- he was out and about this morning. he said on meet the press that he fully expects former president donald trump to be on the new hampshire primary ballot despite an effort to

challenges edge eligibility on the 14th amendment grounds. the 14th amendment privates goal from holding public office who had engaged in insurrection, mister chairman, do you agree is all this fourth amendment talk about donald trump potentially not getting on the ballot in different states across the country. is it just grasping for a soundbite, or is there some -- ? >> i agree with the governor. i think governor sununu amongst a handful of governors both current and former have been very clear on that point. that donald trump will be the nominee of the party. i agree with that. the 14th amendment consideration or question, symone, is a legitimate one. it's gonna be left with large measure to the states based on their own constitution in coordination with the federal constitution. some states are beginning to look at that. you're seeing efforts to encourage states to not put

trump on the ballot because of that. this is something that ultimately should get litigated. i think it's a legitimate question for us to deal with as these cases, these 91 felony counts against him, are played out over the course of four jurisdictions, in four separate legal matters. this is gonna become more and more a question for the states to have to get into. i think the governor's right to put it the way he has. and to frame it the way he has. it's appropriate for the states to be able to look at it and hopefully the judicial system staying true to the constitutional underpinnings will adjudicated appropriately. >> we will definitely be watching for this. janai michael, michael, thank you very much. -- up next, folks we need to talk about it. i'm talk about the new coronavirus variants that are making people sick all over again. i just want to know how bad it

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hospitalizations have spiked by almost 19% in recent weeks. covid related deaths have risen over 17%. and wastewater surveillance indicates that there is an uptick in cases on the east coast. while these numbers are well below pandemic numbers, this late summer wave is filled with variants, cases are also higher than reported because home tests are widely available. i want to bring in dr. cusseta patel, making house calls, she's an ambulance b.c. -- policy director in the obama white house. an oriole doctor not just a tv doctor, she seeing people out there in the office. dr. patel, thank you for being here. the streets including my entire team of question. let's begin where we ended in the intro. are we talk about one variant or multiple covid variants right now? >> the dominant variant is something called eg.5, the one that's causing a lot of concern around the world is another one, ba.2.86, all of it adds up to

things that we were watching. good news, we haven't seen it be more severe which is very good news. the newest one, ba.2.86, which has a lot a very interesting mutations does not appear to be more transmissible. and knots all in all good news. but something we need to watch. and take precautions and use common sense to avoid. >> do we need to worry about staying six feet away from one another right now for example? or is that going too far? >> that's probably going too far. all the honest, the six feet was way in the beginning when we didn't know, at this point it's more about spending time with someone that's had covid. don't think about the feet, think about the amount of time about 15 minutes in a 24-hour period. if you've been around someone where i said to you, symone, what is shocking if i gave you a cold if we were close even for ten minutes at a party. you'd probably be -- that's close enough where you want to think about testing and taking precautions in case you

get sick as well. >> dr., is this our new normal, should we think of this as the flu now, i'm hesitant to say that because so many people have died from covid-19? >> i have a lot of trauma. the whole country, the whole world. as i understand why you're saying that. it's a new normal in several ways. one, we expect surgeons to have -- good enough to predict when these surges will happen. we knew they would happened. we know they've had these upticks in hospitalizations. but not like the flu, or other respiratory virus, or trying to unpack things like long covid, or trying to look and make sure that something isn't more severe. i told you it doesn't look like this new virus, ba.2.86, and more severe. we also need to watch and see if our current vaccines work against this. with flu and other respiratory illnesses we have more certainty to patterns and how well our vaccines will work.

what this we need more time to tell. but it is our new normal. >> do you recommend that masking up? i have a flight this week, should i be putting on my kn95, or at 95? can you address the cloth mask? i'm tired of seeing cloth masks. >> let's get rid of the cloth masks. the only thing that's good enough to use -- to take off some of my makeup, that's about it. i don't use it to where, i don't use it to protect me from anything. i have been using it to take off some of my lipstick. that's about it. make sure you have a high quality mask. i am recommending for patients, i do this myself, crowded spaces when i'm around strangers, subway transit, crowded spaces, boarding a plane, when you're on the plane and the engines are running, systems aren't on, i'm wearing my mask. once the systems are going in europe in the air it is recycling there and making it pretty clear that, you can take your mask off enjoy something to drink, eat, talk to a

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>> it's labor day weekend. every year many of us get the take the day off, some of us have a cookout and celebrate the unofficial end of summer. but do you know how labor day holiday came to be? let me take you back to 1894, and a company town in illinois owned by george -- all the residents worked for his company including railway workers known as pullman porters. as all the pullman's conductors were white, pullman reputed only black banned many of them formally enslaved from the south to work as porters. the nationwide economic depression hit, railroad sleeping cars declined, and pullman orders -- we just cut. in response employees walked off the job demanding higher pay. then eugene debs the president of the american railway union declared a boycott and a national strike. the pullman strike effectively halted rail traffic in commerce in 27 states stretching from

illinois to the west coast. the porters rioted, burned railroad crowds, and formed moths. things got so bad that the president grover cleveland declared the strike a federal crime and apply 12,000 troops, the strike turned deadly after national guardsmen fired into a mob killing as many as 30 people. in the aftermath of this massacre in an effort to appease the nations workers, labor day was formed. the pullman porters of the 19th century did not allow their fears to be broken even when the government who powers and be thought that it could. workers across the railroad industry banded together to put pressure on the system. does any of the sound familiar? our nations no stranger to strikes. walkouts and unions, standing together. right now we're seeing a reinvigorated labor when it comes to life right before our allies. hollywood writers have been on strike for nearly four months. and actors join the picket lines two months ago. auto workers are now authorized

a strike against automakers in a contract agreement isn't reached this month. flight attendants at american airlines also voted to authorize a strike just this week. when you have u.p.s. out there, unionized workers threatened a mass walkout for approving a new contract last month. and now u.p.s. drivers make 170 k a year. labor day folks is so much more than cookouts, shopping deals. it's the day that we honor the contributions and resilience, the dignity of american workers. this labor day we salute the workers. we salute the folks out there fighting for dignity. up next, control of both houses of congress is up for grabs next year, my next guest is on the ballot in arizona. he wants to help democrats take back the house. how conor ocallaghan hopes to stand out in what is shaping up to be one of the most competitive elections in

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states will be choosing their governors. here on symone, warren packing some of the key races with our series, on the ballot. and today we're focusing on the congressional district. in last year's midterms republican incumbent, david schweikert, won the seat by less than 1%. now there are many democratic candidates including wall street veteran, conor ocallaghan, who are hoping to unseat yogurt and help democrats take back at the house. but in one of the most competitive districts in one of the most competitive states is ocala had the best candidate to lead the party to victory? let's ask. adam employee conor ocallaghan joins me now. welcome to you, sir. you're facing a crowded field, it includes a state representative and it was only in recent years that you move back to your district. you're working from home in scottsdale, arizona, why are you the democrat who can best take the seat? >> thank you for having me on.

i hope you're having a great labor day weekend. it's a great question. this race is deeply personal to me. i was born in ireland i move to america as a baby and mood right here what is now to see the one when i was four years old. when i started kindergarten here in the district i still had an irish accent. and that was gone by the time i was in first grade but i continue through the -- scottsdale, arizona, right through high school, graduated here in scottsdale. in 2020, as you mentioned my wife when i moved back to scottsdale with our three young boys who attend public school. growing up here in the district, going to public schools, the community that i was surround with, my church, my coaches. what i have here growing up a lot of my parents and me to seek the american dream and achieve the american dream. when i look at my kids, i look at their friends, i feel that american dream is in jeopardy for so many now. that's why it's so important for us to beat david scheikert, and reclaim the dream for our

kids. >> you had said it's been a mistake to run boilerplate liberals in the congressional district. what's a boiler plate liberal and how do you differ from the so-called boilerplate liberals? >> sure, our district is leaning 2.6% republican. the math just doesn't work to flip the seat unless you're able to bring over independents and moderate republicans. and some of the may come close to doing it in the past but haven't quite been able to do. there's a few reasons for that. in past cycles, the past two specifically, we run candidates that did not live in the district. at this district is pretty unique, it's a unique electorate. you need someone who grew up here, lives here now, and really understand what makes the district pick. for a lot of people here that's the economy. people here for better or worse tend to go with their pocketbooks whether they're democrats, or republicans. messaging on the economy and not saying things like, we need to tax the 1% more, those are

messages that will resonate better with voters here. and something that we've missed in the past. frankly, the candidates we one haven't had their finger because they don't live here in the district. >> some folks would say while there may be skeptical of your pitch, because of your time on wall street, because you are, that's the work you currently do. and they're wondering do you believe in the richest people in this country pairing their fair share, how would you respond to those claims and assertions? >> listen, i believe in the richest -- paying their share. again, my family came to america with very little. my dad's first drop your pay $19,000 a year. the house we lived in ireland was $28,000 with a 50% mortgage. we didn't come here with nothing, but we didn't come here with much. i've achieved everything i've been able to do because of this district. and of course i believe the wealthy bill should pair their fair share. that's why -- i believe that we have a

responsibility not just as democrats. but as americans to help lift people up and healthy generation be better than the next. and help the next generation achieve the american dream i was fortunate to be able to achieve. with respect to my wall street background, wall street's becoming a convenient bogeyman over the years, it's a quick, convenient sound by. but voters here in stevie wonder more savvy than that. they realize having somewhat deep financial expertise who understands businesses, understands governments, understands economies, understands how it all works in all health fits together, how those decisions impact people after every day lives. -- not a hindrance to my candidacy. people do that as a benefit. >> conor ocallaghan, democrat running for congress in arizona 's first congressional district, competitive race. the country is watching. thank you very much, sir. -- up next, saying for a while to a giant of american diplomacy. and a champion for americans

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richardson. rest in peace, sir. with, that is it for me. thank you so much for watching symone on this sunday. i am symone sanders-townsend. politics nation with the great reverend al sharpton starts right now. rev, you got congressman horseburg on today, chair of the congressional black caucus. what can we expect to hear from him? >> coming out of last saturday's big march on washington that congressman -- chair of the caucus in caucus members attended, he spoke, we want to talk about what we do legislatively now. we want to show our strength, bring in our big numbers last week, but not just to have a big day but an agenda. i want to get into substance and agenda with the chapman. you and i met since then. he has a lot to say and we will break it down. >> all right, we will be watching. take it away. >> all right, thank you. and thank you all for watching. and welcome to politicsnation. we