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sometimes, when you have a hit, you have a spin off from that hit. >> it's going to be a very interesting fall. thank you very much. that's going to do it for this us hour. join us every weekday 1:00 to 3:00 p.m. here on msnbc. our coverage continues with katy tur reports right now. good to be back with you. i'm katy tur. there's a lot happening now in the court case of surrounding january 6th. first up in washington, d.c., former proud boys chairman enrique tarrio is being sentenced as we speak. prosecutors are asking for a whole lot of time. is the judge going to agree? and what could that mean for the other big federal interference case. the one that's being headed up by jack smith. also, jury selection for peter navarro's contempt of congress case. the former white house aide is being tried for refusing to testify in the house january 6th
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hearings. what he thinks the supreme court will want to get involved in his case. in georgia, all of the 19 co-defendants accused of conspireing to overturn the 2020 election down there have now waived their arraignments. what happens next? we have news on a just scheduled hearing recording sydney powell and kenneth cheesebrow and when will we hear from the judge about moving mark meadows' case from state court to federal court. he's been deliberating for more than a week. what that will mean for the president of the united states. let's get do it. joining us now is nbc news justice and intelligence correspondent, ken dilanian, who's outside of the courthouse. garrett's the lucky one who got to get inside to see
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air-conditioning. sorry, ken, out there sweating it out. talk to me about tarrio and what the prosecution is asking for. >> reporter: they're asking for 33 years but they won't get it based on what the judge did with the other proud boys leaders last week. the judge sentenced them to between 15 and 18 years. what prosecutors say is there's no group of people who are more responsible for the violence on january 6th than these proud boys. and tarrio was their leader. he was exhorting them over group chat and said make no mistake, we did this. they were present, the proud boys were, at every physical breach of the capital. used a police shield to break the window. they came to washington according to the testimony in trial, to do violence and four
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of the five were convicted of seditious conspiracy. really the question is whether this makes tarrio the longest serving member, gives him the longest sentence of any of the defendants. that's really the drama here or whether the judge decides because he wasn't physically present, he deserves less time. prosecutors have moved to appeal that stewart rhodes sentence and it's not outside of the realm of possibility they would do that in this case. >> i've got problems about what this means for trump's case. i want to ask you about peter navarro and what's happening regarding his trial. contempt of congress jury selection today. get us up to speed there. >> that's right. they're picking a jury in peter navarro's trial. he is facing two counts of contempt of congress, each of which carries a penalty of up to a year in jail and a $100,000
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fine. a judge ruled last week there's no evidence that donald trump, the president at the time, ever asserted executive privilege, ever commanded mr. navarro, who was his economic adviser, not to talk about his efforts to overturn the january 6th election. as a side note, navarro says he expects the trial to cost him a million dollars in legal fees and most experts believe this is an open and shut case so he's got a tough road ahead of him. >> he also thinks the supreme court's going to want to get involved. why? >> because he thinks he has a leg to stand on with regard to executive privilege. that he was acting as a government official and shouldn't have been subject to that subpoena. but again, the judge said it didn't meet the test at all. there was no written record that donald trump had ever instructed him not to comply with that subpoena. >> on the subject of overturning or attempting to overturn the election or being accused of doing such, we have what's going
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on in georgia regarding that state's election in 2020. 19 co-defendants have waived their arraignments. they've pleaded not guilty but aren't going to appear in court. what's next? >> it's been a busy day in the clerk's office processing this paperwork. we heard from seven today failing these waivers saying they're going to waive their personal appearances and instead, plead not guilty remotely. this sort of scrambling the schedule for tomorrow where the judge was scheduled to hear these arraignments in 15-minute increments. now he's already scheduled at hearing at 1:00. he wants to hear powell and cheesebro to sever themselves from the rest of this case. he's got questions in the state about how long it would take if all 19 are tried together. how many witnesses there might be and so on. we're going to get a little peek under the hood tomorrow of what the state's case would be in
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georgia if this goes the way they want it to and they keep the cases together. this question of severance for these two possibly more in the future is an open question and what happens with mark meadows he's waiting for word on whether his case would move to federal court or if it's going to stay in state court with everybody else. he's one of the folks who filed a waiver today pleading not guilty in state court. not knowing where this case, his case, will be heard. >> again, that's federal court. we're not going to see that on tv. no cameras allowed in federal court. will we will able to see tomorrow's 1:00 p.m. hearing and the request to sever this case? will that be on camera? >> we should see that on camera and whatever this judge is going to do about these waivers for these arraignments. whether he decided the gavel in one and sort of confirm receipt of these things. however he decides to handle that and it's apparently done on a judge by judge basis in fulton county. that should be seen on camera as well. they seem pretty committed down
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there to doing all of this on camera if they can. >> we also have kenneth clark who's trying to get his case removed to federal court. his lawyers have an extension until friday to file those motions. garrett, thank you. ken, you as well. joining us now, lisa ruben and catherine christian. good to have you. let's start with tarrio. we have a lot to talk about but he's happening right now. the sentencing from last week lasted about two hours before we knew. prosecutors want 33 years. that is a whole lot of time. are they likely to get that? >> no. they're not. the question is whether enrique tarrio will end up being the defendant in the january 6th case who gets the most time so far. that record is currently held by stewart rhodes and my law school
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classmate who is sentenced to 18 careers. right now, tarrio has made himself eligible for the terrorism enhancement. >> so enrique tarrio is interesting because he was never in d.c. during the insurrection. he was not allowed to be there, but he was in communication. he's been convicted of conspiracy. he's been convicted of obstruction. those are two charges that donald trump also faces in the federal election interference probe that jack smith is helming. can we draw any parallels between enrique tarrio, what he was found guilty for and what he might be sentenced to and what could happen with donald trump? >> i think there's a parallel in two senses. one, both were nowhere near the actual place where the violence took place. one big difference is that tarrio was charged with and convicted of seditious conspiracy. that didn't happen with donald trump. but in addition to the fact that both of them continued to gin up their supporters and support what was going on at the capitol
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from afar. the other similarity is the evidence they left behind. in the same way donald trump continued to tweet all throughout the day on january 6th and that is evidence in the federal indictment, tarrio left prosecutors with evidence through his social media posts and his texts. ken was referring to some of them earlier, but he was watching the whole thing. he was taking credit for it. he was encouraging the folks that he had recruited to do this action through those texts and social media posts. >> was donald trump going as far? >> donald trump probably was not going as far as tarrio who infamous texted 1776, said he was proud of his boys, even took delight in the fact members of congress were hiding in the chamber as his folks has infiltrated the chamber. did donald trump take it that far? no. on the other hand, did donald trump have a different
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responsibility adds the leader of this united states? he sure did. >> peter, open and shut case or no? >> i think it's an open and shut case divorced from some of the defenses he wanted to impose. peter navarro had a choice. he could have shown up, invoked the fifth in response to just about every question he was asked. the roster of former witnesses is replete with people who did that. but he made the choice he didn't want to show up and now he's suffering the consequences of a ruling where the judge said you haven't shown me proof. >> the most interesting thing i'm seeing out of georgia is what's going to happen with meadows and whether the case is going to get moved to federal court. the judge has had about a week to consider this. what is he considering? what is at issue? >> well, he asked the question if one of the acts that mr. meadows is accused of doing actually was part of his duties of chief of staff, does that mean it gets removed despite the
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fact that maybe the other dozen were not? and the fulton county prosecutors said it still has to stay in the state court even if one because he's charged with rico, being part of a criminal enterprise, being part of conspiracy. so you have to look at all of the acts mr. meadows took as a whole. it was to further criminal conspiracy, then it shouldn't be removed. so i think the judge asked good questions and he's taking his time as he should and it's really, i mean, we're all waiting to find out what happens. i think either way, if mr. meadows' case doesn't get removed, he's going to appeal it to the 11th circuit. so that will be another step. if he loses, he's going to appeal it to the united states supreme court. >> could get delayed quite a bit of time. >> exactly. but the state case will still continue against him. >> if it does get removed, say the judge decides i think this should be in federal court, does
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that mean the rest of the defendants get moved to federal court? do some have a better case to get moved the federal court? >> that's an unanswered question and lisa, i'd be interested to know your opinion. everyone's saying we don't know. that would be interesting. there are two people, mr. cheesebro and mr. powell who want speedy trial. if they get moved to federal court, that's not going to happen. >> i love when people say i don't know because it gives you more confidence when you're telling me what you do know. what do you think about this? can you say whether any of them might get moved? >> i can't say definitively. i can tell you judge steve jones of the northern district of georgia, the federal judge who's hearing these motions, he's scheduled removal trials, sorry, hearings, by my count for at least three other defendants who have made removal motions.
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that suggests to me that he doesn't believe that automatically saying yes to mark meadows means everybody else follows along. saying no may also mean he doesn't think it's a no on everybody else. but he's scheduled hearings for jeff clark. >> thank you for saying jeff. >> and kathy lathem, they have hearings on september 18th or 20th. in all, there are five people who have asked for removal. mark meadows is only the first to have had his hearing. >> catherine, what do you expect for this 1:00 p.m. hearing tomorrow? >> well, it's interesting because mr. chesebro is doing i know her so why should i have to be tried with her. the reason they should be tried together is because they are charged with being with the same criminal enterprise. he's the fake elector scheme person who came up with that along with mr. eastman and miss
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powell is the voting machines tamperer. there are different prongs of the same criminal enterprise. so i can't foresee a judge saying everyone who asks for a speedy trial is going to get one. that would make no sense in terms of the court. the economy. so if you are, it's one thing if they weren't charged where the same rico. one was charged with something that wasn't, but they are all allegedly part of the same criminal enterprise so to say that i don't know her, well, that would be his defense when he's doing the trial. but he can't use that to be broken away from her. i know donald trump has referred to her as being crazy. that might be the reason why he doesn't want to be sitting at a table with her, but i don't think the judge is going to give people separate trials. >> also this idea of what the defenses are going to be. we have some indication now, lisa, that one of the defenses might be hey, i didn't know what
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i was doing. this was all donald trump orchestrated this and i was just a helpless pawn. we saw a glimmer of that in one of the meadows' filings. >> also in meadows' on testimony. you could see from the reaction to that by legal experts that didn't go over so well. particularly when we're talking about the people here or people who were legal experts like ken was, that's not a defense that's likely to go over well. in some cases, these people were leading donald trump with their ideas as to how they could accomplish the objective to which he was so committed. >> there's also one other trump related case not having to do with overturning the election. new york attorney general james is asking a judge to sanction donald trump and some of his children for in her words, continuing to raise previously rejected arguments in their legal motions. what's happening there? >> well, that would be up to the
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court. you know, you're not allowed as an attorney to keep making frivolous arguments and your opposing counsel can request the court to sanction the other side because they've made arguments that have been decided by the court. now you're just wasting time. they have to respond to the what we believe are frivolous arguments. so this is a judge who had not tolerated many shenanigans from whoever appears in his court. it will be interesting if she sanctions. which means all the issues, there's no dispute, let's just go right to the relief she's seeking, which is $250 million and having mr. trump and his adult children who are part of the trump organization banned for life from ever being a director, an officer in a new york state corporation. >> really interesting stuff. a whole lot of legal caveats or
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legal carve outs and cases and a lot there today. ladies, thank you very much for trying to sort it out for me. up next, what a federal court just did to alabama's congressional map and what it means for black voters. plus, the texas senate's response to ken paxton's last ditch efforts to dismiss the articles of impeachment against him. and the u.s. senate is back in session today three weeks before a potential government shutdown. how long are the lights going to stay on this time? we're back in 60 seconds. stay on this time? we're back in 60 seconds with powerful, easy-to-use tools, power e*trade makes complex trading easier. react to fast-moving markets with dynamic charting and a futures ladder that lets you place, flatten, or reverse orders so you won't miss an opportunity. e*trade from morgan stanley. age is just a number, and mine's unlisted. try boost® high protein with 20 grams of protein for muscle health
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your left saying it violated the voting rights act. in july, alabama state republicans redrew it. that is the map you see on your right. which looks pretty similar. and that is exactly the problem. according to the court. joining me now is shaq brewster. so, the supreme court upheld a lower court's decision to throw out this map. why did republicans come back with a map that was almost exactly the same? >> that seems like the question that you heard this federal panel of judges ask themselves and put pretty plainly in this ruling. this was a scathing ruling. you heard terms like deeply troubled. they said they were disturbed. the court is now essentially telling the state of alabama that you didn't do your job when we told you to draw maps that have the correct population so we're going to do it for you. they're appointing a special master, an expert, to draw their own maps that the court will
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impose on the state of alabama. let's back up a little bit because what happened here is after the 2020 census, you saw is state legislature draw maps that took away one of the two black majority districts in the state. in a way that the court ruled was unconstitutional. state has about a 27% black population. well, the court struck those down. it went up to the supreme court. the supreme court sided with this court and then in july, you saw the legislature essentially pass a similar set of maps. i want to pull up the quotes from this ruling that just really shows the frustration of the judges. they say we are deeply troubled the state enacted a plan that the state admits does not provide the remedy. later in the ruling, they said the law requires the creation of an additional district that affords black alabamans a fair and reasonable opportunity to elect candidates of their choice.
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the 2023 plan fails to do so. the state could likely repeal this. it could go back to the supreme court, but if we pull back, this is something we're seeing in states around the country. not just alabama but georgia, florida, north carolina, even blue states. new york is dealing with a similar battle in which the legislature and the courts are disagreeing with what maps should be in place. this could ultimately determine control of the u.s. congress come 2024 because these are the maps that are going to determine who has the advantage when we get to that next election. >> it is a really interesting case. shaq, thank you very much. coming up next, what some house republicans are doing to link a push to impeach biden with a government shutdown. plus, what putin will likely be asking for if he meets with kim jong-un in person later this month. th kim jong-un in person later this month. one aleve works all day so i can keep working my magic.
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texas attorney general ken paxton is on trial in the state senate today in texas and hundreds of people in austin have shown up to watch. he faces 20 articles of impeachment. paxton, a republican party fixture who's been in office since 2015, has denied any and all wrong doing, calling the allegations against him, which came from an overwhelmingly led
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republican legislature, quote politically motivated. now his allies are threatening political retribution to any state senator who votes for his removal. joining us from austin is jane tim. so, jane, a fascinating case. paxton, obviously popular in texas. a very big trump ally. pushed through a lot of the court cases that are heavily cited toward trump efforts but also somebody who republicans in that state say has crossed the line egregiously. >> the articles of impeachment all surround his relationship to the developer and donor who the house of impeachment managers say he accepted bribes for him in the form of renovation to his home and a job for a woman he was having an affair with. let's listen to some sound from one of the republican house impeachment managers said about
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these allegations. >> the oath of office we all took to protect the citizens of state and to uphold the laws of this state and constitution mean something. it isn't just words on paper. it's literally an oath to god. and mr. paxton had an obligation not to abuse his office for his own benefit. he betrayed his constituents and the sacred public trust that's been given him and in texas, we require more from our public officials than to merely avoid being a criminal. >> now the house impeached him of course overwhelming vote but there's 31 senators here who were listing these allegations. need two-thirds of that number to convict him and remove him from office and of course, only 30 senators will be voting because one the paxton's wife, senator angela paxton. she has been recused from voting
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in this. >> jane, thank you very much. we want to take a live shot of the senate floor. the u.s. senate floor right now. you can see this is minority leader, mitch mcconnell, addressing the senate. this is the first time we've seen him here in washington since his last episode where he froze on camera in front of reporters in kentucky. that was the second time that had happened. earlier it happened in front of reporters in washington. since then, today, we got a letter from mitch mcconnell's office saying that he was treated or looked at, examined, by the senate capitol attending physician, brian monahan and he said that there is no evidence the republican has a seizure disorder or experienced a stroke, tia or movement disorder such as parkinson's disease. john, the wording is interesting there. no evidence that the republican
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has a seizer disorder or experienced a stroke. just didn't have a seizure disorder. >> it's a very carefully written letter. mcconnell's office says he consulted with four specialists but they would not provide us with the name of the specialists and it's unclear to us if actually monahan personally evaluated mcconnell after this last incident. not sure if he just looked at what the results were of the test. mcconnell did kind of just make a little bit of a joke on the floor. he just said one particular moment from my time back home received its fair share of attention in the press so he's kind of trying to down play it a little bit, which is the mcconnell way. mcconnell is very two things. mcconnell is very stubborn. he's a stubborn man. it's what served him well in his
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career, and he's secretive. for a long time, he didn't even tell his colleagues what he was doing. but these things play against him in this situation. outside, you can't see it, but outside the senate chamber, there's a huge contingent of reporters who want to ask him questions. how are you? >> we know what you're saying is not wrong with you. we want to know actually what is wrong with you or what's happening to you. so we'll see how open he is with the press. how open his colleagues, you know, it's not his style to be open so we'll see how he handles this. >> when he first addressed the floor, he said one particular moment of his time back home has received its fair share of attention in the press over the week, talking obviously about that moment where he froze again in front of reporters but went on to say august was a busy and productive month for me. the health issues of these older senators has very much been top of mind for a lot of americans.
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mitch mcconnell, dianne feinstein. others who have since retired. just the aging of the senate. our lawmakers are much older than the majority of the country. is it good enough for him to come out with a vaguely worded statement that says all is fine? >> no. he's going to have to say some more. congress is dominated by the four leaders, republican and democratic leaders in the house and senate. in a way, it's become much more the big four. we refer to them as it's dominated by that to have a party leader. especially someone like mcconnell who is a legendary figure. he's been the longest serving party leader in senate history. clearly have health issues as he has throughout the year. the fall back in march and he missed six weeks and now he's had these two public episodes. there's clearly something else going on here. i think he's going to face a lot of questions when he goes before
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the press tomorrow. either they're going to try and grab him right now. i think there's going to have to be a lot more. i have written about this issue on the health of members. there used to be you know a lot less coverage of this. i've written about this for decades. it used to be something that we just got along with. we just kind of knew. strom thurmond, the longest serving senator in history, he had a guy that used to go to every meeting for him. used to call him the 101st senator because thurmond couldn't go to meetings. we have had other senators, it's much harder. there's much more coverage of the senate and congress. >> there's always been big issues but there are big issues going on right now as well. there's a government shutdown that's looming. september 30th is the deadline. mcconnell has a lot of work to do and he's got the republican party is an unruly conference right now. top to bottom. i've got to leave it here because we've got to go to the
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east room in the white house where president biden is giving an award for the medal of honor to captain larry taylor, a vietnam war vet. a helicopter pilot. let's dip in there and listen. >> davis, walter, and james mcclune and leeroy petri. gentlemen, you're the very best the nation has to offer. we owe you. the same goes for sergeant david him. vietnam veteran, former firefighter, and the last surviving member of larry's mission. the driving force behind his medal of honor nomination. on behalf of our nation, thank you all for being here. and finally, tony. larry learned many ranks and call signs throughout his military service. he earned them. captain, dark horse, mustang and probably a few we can't say out
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loud. best left out of the presidential record, i guess. but i believe that larry's most proud of being called your husband. and it's an honor. it's an honor to have you both here as we give this hero its full recognition it deserves. born in the volunteer state, raised by a war war ii veteran, duty to find larry taylor's life the earliest days. as a young man, he volunteered to join the college rotc unit at the university of tennessee knoxville. then after graduating in 1966, he commissioned as an armor officer. larry had dreamed of leading the vietnam in a battle of what he calls char yots of steel but it didn't take many days on the ground for larry to realize he belonged in the sky. he wanted to be a pilot.
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not just any pilot. a covert pilot flying the newest, fastest plane at the time. a gun ship built for only two people and their ammo. so when larry was ordered, was offered a spot to fly in the fighting first in vietnam, he jumped at the chance. it was there that then lieutenant taylor would go above and beyond the call of duty quite literally. june 18th, 1968. it was pitch-black. no moon. no stars. no light beyond the glow of lieutenant taylor's cockpit controls when he heard a whisper coming through his radio. we're surrounded. we're surrounded. that's what he heard. the call had come from a four-man army patrol unit just northeast of saigon. a unit that included sergeant david hill. earlier that day, the men had
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set out to recon the area but in the dark, the men found themselves in the middle of a vietnam stronghold. nearly 100 enemy soldiers now encircled their unit. the men picked up their radio and made a call. no longer a recon mission. they needed a rescue mission. without hesitation, lieutenant taylor and his co-pilot began racing toward them. over the radio, he laid out the game plan. he was use it covert to give the unit cover until a rescue helicopter could extract them. there was one simple problem. it was pitch-black. lieutenant taylor couldn't determine exactly where they were. so he asked his men to launch a flair, a move that would reveal their location to him, but also the enemy. lieutenant taylor knew the risks but he was ready. over the radio, he said let's get to work. a flair went up. and the fight was on.
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the enemy fire lit up the night. lieutenant taylor and his co-pilot dove down, positioning nearly parallel with the fighters. they flew dangerously low levels firing thousands of rockets to cover the ground on which the men with. then lieutenant taylor heard a sound. that meant one thing. his hilo was hit and again and again and again. at this point according to army standards, he could have left the fight. lieutenant taylor had his own sacred standard. quote, you never leave a man on the ground, end of quote. he tried to find an escape route for the unit. taking more rounds as he did. he kept trying to radio for rescue, knowing that he and his men below were almost out of time and ammunition. on his last try, he learned that any attempt to save the men had
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been called off. the rescue helicopter was not coming. instead, lieutenant taylor received a direct order. return to base. his response was just as direct. i'm getting my men out. i'm getting my men out. lieutenant taylor performed the extraction himself. a maneuver never accomplished in the covert. it's a gun ship only. no cabin for passengers but that was the least of his problems. first, lieutenant taylor needed to give his men a way out of the rice paddy where they had been pinned down. he needed a diversion so despite the fact he had no rockets on rounds left, he drew the enemy fire himself using his land light to trick the enemy into thinking he still had ammo, he started making runs on the fighters. the ruse worked a few times but
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it was enough for the men to make it to the extraction point. there, still under heavy gunfire, lieutenant taylor landed. the men on the exterior of his hilo, clinging to the skids, climbing on the rocket pods. within seconds, lieutenant taylor was back in the air but the mission wasn't over. lieutenant taylor saw his fuel light flickering. it started off with 1,600 pounds of gas and now he had about six. not enough to make it back to base. worse, the soldiers he was carrying were covered in wet mud and clinging against 50 knots of wind. even if he could make it back, his men would freeze or fall first so he once again risked his own safety. he located a friendly area to sit his bird now.
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the four men dismounted and disappeared back into the pitch-black night. no moon. no stars. no light beyond the glow of their faces when they briefly turned and saluted lieutenant taylor for saving all four of their lives. he wouldn't see some of these men again until 30 years later at army reunions. by that time, lieutenant taylor had long become captain taylor. flown more than 2,000 combat mission, received a silver star, a bronze star, air medals. thank god he's not put them all on his chest. he'd have trouble standing. it's incredible. the greatest honor of all, family showed up at these reunions, too. they'd look for larry and hug him. they'd say you don't know me but you saved my daddy's life. in a few days, young soldiers
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about the same age as larry was during the dark night in vietnam, they'll arrive at ranger school. like all of us today, they're inspired by his story and they will be. but how, by how he refused to give up, refused to leave a fellow american behind. refused to put his own life above the lives of others in need. when duty called, larry did everything, did everything to answer. and because of that, he rewrote the fate of four families for generations to come. that's valor. that's valor. that's our nation at its very best and that's why it's now my great honor to ask lieutenant colonel ann hughes to read your medal of honor citation. may god bless you all and may god protect our troops.
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>> attention to orders. the president of the united states of america authorized by act of congress march 3rd, 1863, has awarded in the name of congress the medal of honor to first lieutenant larry l. taylor, united states army, for conspicuous gallantry at the risic of his life above and beyond the call of duty. first lieutenant larry l. taylor distinguished himself by acts of gallantry above and beyond the call of duty while serving with troop delta, first squadron fourth cavalry, first infantry division on june 18th, 1968 near the village republic of vietnam. on this date, first lieutenant taylor commanded a light fire team of two cobra helicopter gun ships scrambled on a nighttime mission in response to an urgent call for ariel fire support from
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a four-man long range patrol team. upon arrival, he found the patrol team surrounded and heavily engaged by a larger force. he immediately requested illumination rounds and supporting artillery to assist with identifying the enemy positions. despite ground fire, he flew at a perilously altitude placing machine gunfire on the enemy forces encircling the friendly patrol. for over 45 minutes, first lieutenant taylor and his wing man continued to make attack runs on the enemy positions. when enemy fire increased from the village, he requested artillery rounds with lower illumination altitudes be fired on that portion of the village so the burning rounds ignited the enemy positions. with both gun ships out of ammunition, first lieutenant taylor flew the patrol team's ground evacuation route funding
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it unavailable. returning to the patrol team's location, he continued to circle it at a low level under intense enemy fire, using his search light to distract them. running low on fuel and with the patrol team nearly out of ammunition, first lieutenant taylor decided to extract the team with his two-man gun ship. a feat never accomplished. he directed his men to fire the remaining rounds on the patrol team's east flank. he then fired his own last rounds on the enemy positions, opening an avenue of movement to the east for the patrol team. he directed the patrol team to move 100 yards towards the extraction point where first lieutenant taylor still under enemy fire landed his helicopter and instructed the patrol team to climb aboard anywhere they could. with the four-man long range patrol team seated on rocket pods and skids, he evacuated
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police are still looking for the murderer who escaped a pennsylvania prison, but they do think they have an idea of where he is. danelo cavalcante was spotted twice on private trail cameras in chester county last night. and now the fbi and the u.s. border patrol are joining in on the search. joining us now from chester county is nbc news correspondent emilie ikeda. they have seen him twice on these surveillance videos. do they have a perimeter, a two-mile radius? what are they telling us? >> hey there, katie. that perimeter continues to shift and expand as tips continue to pour in. the latest surveillance images, two cameras, trail cams from neighboring to where i'm standing from, longwood gardens, i'm very familiar with this area, sweeping botanical gardens, a thousand acres. this is suburbia, outside of wilmington, outside of philadelphia, but there is also an immense amount of thick brush. it is really complicating the
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search. we're seeinging police agencies at all levels, all hands on deck effort, using canines, drones, helicopters. we saw a helicopter pass overhead in search of cavalcante who was recently sentenced to life in prison for killing his girlfriend. and so as this search continues, they continue to ask people to exercise an immense amount of caution because of the danger this fugitive presents. we heard from people who believe that cavalcante was actually inside his home. we also heard from a resident who said police have been staking out her yard all night long. >> we had a state trooper the whole night on our deck with his gun and everything and he stayed up all night and walked the perimeter of our backyard. >> i made him chocolate chip cookies and we gave him coke and water because he was going to be there all night. >> reporter: and the search process playing out in this
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sweltering heat. cavalcante, 120 pounds, five feet tall and police are offering up to $10,000 in reward money for critical tips. >> making him cookies and giving him soda while he's on the lookout for a murderer. emilie ikeda, thank you very much. what you can expect for the fall tv season as hollywood writers and actors are still on strike. what are we all going to watch? what are we all going to watch (ella) fashion moves fast. setting trends is our business. we need to scale with customer demand... ...in real time. (jen) so we partner with verizon to take our operations to the next level. (marquis) with a custom private 5g network. (ella) with verizon business, we get more control of production, efficiencies, and greater agility. (marquis) so our customers get what they want, when they want it. (jen) it's not just a network. it's enterprise intelligence. (vo) learn more. it's your vision,
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peak tv season is upon us. so savor it now because it may be the last of the fresh content you'll get for a while. with the writers strike now in its fourth strike and actors strike closing in on month two, there are very real concerns that any more delay will up end future release schedules, leaving us with nothing but reruns. joining us now is julia boorstin. you'll also get fresh news content. that's the good news here. you can watch the news. it is new every day. what are we expecting? >> yes, there will always be news and sports. that will be fresh and new. the fall tv season is when the networks debut their brand-new content, their new scripted shows. but this year it is going to look a lot like the summer. there will be a couple of new shows, shows that have been shot long ago and are in the can, but it will be a lot of reality tv
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and game shows. the hollywood reporter calculates there will be 38 hours of reality tv and game show programming at the start of the season. and that's up 81% from last year. we're also going to be seeing some reruns, for instance, cbs is airing "yellowstone." they're also airing reruns of its show "ghost" with the original british version of the show as a companion. but interestingly we're not seeing a surge in production of reality tv programming that many people expected. unscripted tv orders actually declined from 509 in the first quarter to 444, that's way down from a peak of 615 orders at the start of last year. that decline is partially because of consolidation, we had the merger of warner bros. and discovery. there has been broad cost cutting across the industry. and a backlog of shows because there was so much production last year. >> yeah. there is a lot of turmoil within the media industry. i got to say, i love "ghost" and
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"yellowstone." i'm not upset about the reruns. talk to me about the stand still between the writers and the actors and the media companies. is there any progress, any whispers of some sort of deal that could be made in the future or is it as ugly as it seems from the outside? >> they started talking a couple of weeks ago and then the talking stopped. so i know that there is still a lot of conversation and negotiation is ongoing, but there is this question of what is it going to take to get the two sides to compromise. a couple of key issues here. one is this compensation, the writers guild and that's the guild that is at the forefront of negotiations now because they have been on strike for longer. there is this expectation the writers guild will figure it out first and the screen actors guild will follow. they want greater conversation more broadly and greater conversation for streaming. they want to be compensated if their shows are a success on streamers. and they want protections around artificial intelligence, which is a very complicated issue.
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>> they want to be paid. i think anyone can understand that. julia boorstin, thank you very much for joining us. appreciate it. that's going to do it for me today on this tuesday. "deadline: white house" starts right now. hi there, everyone. 4:00 in new york. there is brand-new reporting out today that shows that special council jack smith still is assembling a timeline. a potential criminal acts that took place in those crucial days after the 2020 election and that he may still be in the thick of it in the investigation into trump's accomplices and seeking to overturn the will of the voters. citing multiple sources
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