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right now on "ana cabrera reports," a warning to the georgia prosecutors putting donald trump on trial, why the judge thinks the sprawling case will take longer than they expect and might be unrealistic to get started next month. so what happens now in this already complicated case? plus, the hunch for a killer enters week two. new video showing it only took seconds -- look at this -- for this escaped pennsylvania murderer to scale those two prison walls. and later the potentially dangerous hurricane lee intensifying this morning, projected to become a category 4. we're tracking where it's headed next. good morning. thanks so much for joining us. it is 10:00 eastern. i'm ana cabrera reporting from new york, and we begin with new skepticism from a judge in georgia that donald trump and his 18 co-defendants can be
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tried together next month. now, the fulton county district attorney's office revealing that they expect this trial to last four months with some 150 witnesses, and they're still eyeing an october 23rd start date to try all 19. here was judge scott mcafee's reaction during a televised hearing that played out in georgia. >> it just seems a bit unrealistic to think that we can handle all 19 in 40 something days. that's my initial reaction. >> the judge also denied a request from kenneth chesebro and sidney powell to sever their cases. our legal analyst joyce vance and charles coleman are standing by. let's go right to nbc's katie phang who was in the courtroom and is joining us now from atlanta. march was the original start date proposed by the district attorney, but that bumped up to october when chesebro and powell asked for a speedy trial.
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as of now, does this october 23rd trial start still stand? >> reporter: oh, absolutely, ana, under georgia state law when a demand for speedy trial is made by a criminal defendant, it has to be honored by the court. there's a very tight window of time in which the trial can commence. trial commencing means we bring the jury in. we go through the process of jury selection. this isn't just let me set the date and maybe get to it later on. the real challenge for scott mcafee is going to be the balance of those defendants. let's be clear, it's not going to take a lot of tea leaf reading to say you're not going to see all 19 defendants going to trial on october 23rd. it's let's get the kenneth chesebro, sidney powell trial started, but what do you do with the remaining 17? and the concerns you heard and that you played for your audience during that clip from yesterday's hearing was he only has maybe 40 something days to be able to handle multiple motions, pretrial motions, substantive motions to su are
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press that we know are going to be filed. this case was brought through an indictment from a grand jury, ana. because of that, there's a lot more complications versus just a street arrest, for example, with law enforcement. so because of all the different moving parts in this instance, judge mcafee telling the state by next tuesday, please brief and file what you think it's going to take to be able to handle a 19 defendant trial considering a number of legal issues that the state did not address yesterday during that hearing. >> okay. so next tuesday is when we can expect at the very least some more movement potentially, at least more information. katie phang, thank you for that update. >> joyce, the prosecution estimates a trial for all 19 defendants would take four months with at least 150 witnesses. what's your reaction to learning this and the judge calling it a bit unrealistic? >> well, to katie's point, the judge is simply assessing the playing field here and realizing that with all of these different defendants, each of them asserting different kinds of
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claims and pretrial motions it's not realistic to start trial with all 19 of them by october 23rd. but as katie points out, those who make speedy trial demands must go to trial on this expedited schedule. otherwise under georgia law, the cases against them would be dismissed. so we can expect to see this bifurcated system. insofar as the estimates about trial time goes, prosecutors are really good at doing this. they know what evidence they have to put on in their case. this is a complicated indictment with lots of moving parts, so it seems realistic, but as far as the 150 witnesses go, it's important to understand that not all of them will be substantive. some of them will be witnesses who will -- the government is required to include for technical legal reasons to show the chain of custody on evidence or to introduce the sorts of information that might have been obtained by the grand jury, and so although it's likely that if the government says it has 150
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witnesses, they, in fact, do, they will be of varying lengths and different importance as the trial plays out. >> we were all able to be flies in that courtroom, charles, on the wall because it was televised yesterday. what was your takeaway from what we saw, and what are you watching for next? >> well, ana, i think one of the things that people have to understand is that there's a certain thing called prosecutorial initiative. what that basically refers to is that when you are a prosecutor and you're going forward with a case, it's your job so make sure you answer ready every time that case comes up. what i mean by answer ready is you're saying, look, we're ready to go to trial. and so fani willis and defense attorneys are enfwajd in a little bit of a battle, basically playing chicken with one another and it's who blinks first. it's because chesebro and powell have put in these speedy trial motions, it's on fani willis, they are essentially calling her
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bluff. she has prepared for this and she understands there are going to be multiple adjustments and maneuvers she's going to have to make as counter moves. please believe she does have a backup plan and she is ready to make the appropriate adjustments that are necessary in order to try some of these defendants who have put in their speedy trial motions while others have not. so this is not necessarily something that's going to catch her on her heels. she understands what the law says about needing to be ready to go forward, and she's going to be prepared to do that. >> i'll note there's another rico case happening in that same courthouse right now, and it's taken seven months just for jury selection. mark that in your mind for now. d.a. fani willis also asked the judge to keep future jurors' names secret because of the potential for harassment, even threats like she herself has received. how important could that be for seating a fair and impartial jury? >> it's going to be a very big deal. i think that when you talk about a case like this, any case that's going to go on for as
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long as this is, is going to be a very difficult jury selection, just to start with because you're talking about people who are going to have to take off time from work, take time away from their families and be in this space where they can focus on the evidence that's being presented to them. that in and of itself is a challenge. very few people enjoy the responsibility of jury duty. getting past that hurdle, is one thing. when you're talking about a case like this, a prosecution of a former president of the united states of america, that ups the level to an unbelievable degree. the jurors' safety, to ensuring a very impartial trial to all of the 19 defendants that they are entitled to by law without prejudicing the prosecution from what they seek to do. i expect a lot of attention to be paid to the jury selection process. that's another thing that i was thinking about as i watched the proceedings yesterday, just the idea that there were so many different things that had to go
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into selecting a jury. this is not going to be easy, and it will happen with pain staking detail in terms of the different precautions that are taken to make sure that you have a fair and impartial jury. >> i wonder does that mean that the jury selection wouldn't be on camera, or how would that work? >> so what fani willis has asked for is that the jurors' video not be included of them so they can be identified. in a situation like this where there are good reasons to protect the jury, it would be possible for the judge to impanel an anonymous jury in this case. they would be referred to only by number throughout the process, although the parties would know their identities, so that they could engage in voir dire, but every possible step would be taken to ensure that they were anonymous, that jury selection itself was only limited viewing. >> let's take a listen to what
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donald trump had to say. >> so if you have to go to trial, will you testify in your own defense? >> oh, yes, absolutely. >> you'll take the stand? >> that i look forward to. >> joyce, he didn't specify which trial, but trump saying he would absolutely testify, is that a good idea? >> he will absolutely not testify because it would virtually be malpractice for any of his lawyers to permit him to take the witness stand and testify under oath. he would expose himself to additional charges, most certainly, and of course trump has a track record of saying that he intends to testify and then failing to do so. i think we can expect to see that trend continue here. >> charles, there was an interesting development in colorado yesterday, six voters filing suit to remove trump from that state's 2024 ballot. they point to the constitution
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which states that no person shall hold any office if they engage in insurrection. do you see that going anywhere? >> honestly, i don't at this point. i think people have to understand what donald trump has been charged with and what he hasn't been charged with. without substantive legal charges against him at the federal or even state level to think about donald trump being charged with insurrection or charged with seditious conspiracy or charged with any of the other things we've seen, some of the january 6th defendants, for example, charged with, they're going to have a difficult case making that out and establishing that. i think that's the biggest hurdle. however, if there is a judge that's willing to consider that evidence and willing to find that insurrection was something that donald trump participated in from a legal perspective without criminal charges against him from the department of
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justice and jack smith, then that may have some legs and you may see similar suits sprout in different jurisdictions. as of right now, because he has not been formally charged with it, i suspect this is going nowhere fast. >> charles coleman, i appreciate you. we're following another trial this morning with closing arguments getting underway right now in the case against former trump adviser peter navarro. navarro is facing contempt of congress charges for his refusal to comply with a house january 6th subpoena. his trial moved very quickly. opening statements were just about this time yesterday, despite the severity of the charge, navarro's defense lawyers rested their case without presenting any witnesses or evidence. nbc's ken dilanian has been following this one for us. so ken, it seems odd the defense had no witnesses? so what does the jury have to work with? >> well, the issues, there's not
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much fact in dispute here. the prosecutor said peter navarro made a choice, he chose not to comply with the congressional subpoena. our government only works when people play by the rules. that's essentially what the prosecution has shown here. the only defense, navarro's real defense he wanted to argue was that donald trump had prohibited him from doing this pursuant to executive privilege. a judge did not let him argue that, so it really does appear that he's throwing this to the appeals court. he expected to be convicted. they did get in front of the jury an email where he cited his reason for not complying as executive privilege. the jury did see that but they're given no reason to acquit. the facts are the fact, he didn't comply with the subpoena. >> so if he is convicted, what happens? >> he's subject to penalty up to a year in jail on each count, and $100,000 fine on each count. he's going to appeal and argue that executive privilege
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applied. the judge ruled it didn't meet any of the tests. there was no evidence that donald trump invoked executive privilege. he's got a tough road ahead of him. >> ken dilanian, keep us posted. thank you. coming up, prison break, the search for a killer enters week two as video shows him crab walking. watch this. he crab walks between these two walls to escape in just a matter of seconds. plus, the special counsel investigating hunter biden says he intends to seek an indictment this month. we'll break down the latest in that case. also ahead, one of the most complex and largest cave rescues in the world is happening right now involving an american trapped thousands of feet underground in turkey. and later, glory days delayed, the outpouring of love for bruce springsteen after he was forced to postpone some concerts this month. we're back in 60 seconds.
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welcome back. an indictment appears imminent for hunter biden. the special counsel nfgting the president's son says the justice department will seek an indictment against hunter biden related to gun charges before the end of the month. all this after that plea deal fell through in july. nbc news senior legal correspondent laura jarrett has the details for us. >> good morning, the federal investigation into president biden's son has stretched on for nearly five years. it's now on the verge of a critical new stage with republicans demanding more action while prosecutors race against a ticking clock. this morning a criminal case against the president's son moving full steam ahead, newly tapped special counsel david weiss revealing prosecutors intend to seek federal charges against hunter biden by the enof this month, potentially setting the stage for a trial in the
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midst of his father's re-election bid. the precise charges are unclear, but this comes after hunter biden's legal team and the justice department failed to close a plea deal over the summer that would have allowed him to avoid prison time. >> the government was up against a clock. it had to charge within a certain amount of time. >> reporter: prosecutors had accused hunter biden of illegally buying a gun while using drugs and paying taxes on time. biden pled not guilty. >> it's possible now since the plea agreement has collapsed that mr. biden could be charged with more serious offenses. >> reporter: he is upholding his end of the teal to avoid prison at least on the gun charge. the agreement prevents any additional charges from being filed. >> if two parties make an agreement and sign the agreement and submit the agreement and in open court say they have an agreement, then they have an agreement. >> reporter: the president has tried to distance himself from the criminal allegations against hunter, but has also defended
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his son when asked. >> my son has done nothing wrong. >> reporter: republicans on capitol hill meanwhile, underwhelmed by news of an indictment. >> it's just going to get a slap on the wrist from the judge. >> reporter: and so the gop investigations press on focused on hunter biden's foreign business dealings, trying to connect the president to some alleged wrongdoing by his son. >> investigating the bidens is like tracking a bleeding bear through a snowstorm. >> reporter: a former business associate said he believed hunter provided an illusion of access to his father. now that prosecutors have submitted their update to the judge, the case could soon be in the hands of a grand jury if it isn't already. back to you. >> laura jarrett, thanks so much. let's bring back former u.s. attorney joyce vance. are you expecting sort of a deja vu moment here, a possible gun charge and the tax charges from that original plea deal, or do
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you think we might see other charges if there's an indictment? >> we don't know for sure what to expect. this filing by david weiss yesterday said they were seeking charges related to the failed gun charge that was brought previously. we know weiss has also said that he has been investigating charges that the younger biden was acting as an unregistered agent for a foreign country, not sure what precisely they'll ask the grand jury to return an indictment on at this point in time. >> on that potential gun charge, hunter biden's attorney abby lowell spoke about that last night right here on msnbc. take a listen. >> hunter had a gun for 11 days. it was never loaded. it was never used. there's never been a stand-alone gun charge like this and brought by this office ever. they decided to made sense to do a diversion because of hunter's condition at the time, and now they're talking about that.
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what's changed, not the facts. the only law that's changed has been a court of appeals in the federal system that has called that statute unconstitutional. >> so joyce, what do you make of that argument? >> well, abby's actually making two good arguments here. one is that prosecutors almost never bring this charge, that someone is a drug user in possession of a firearm, and it's not tough to understand why. the courts would be swamped if federal prosecutors tried every individual who touched a gun and was also a drug user. this statute is very rarely used in serious cases involving someone who presents real harm to the community. lowell is also correct when he says that some charges related to this are under special scrutiny in the courts right now. there has been an increasing interest in determining whether
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the statute, which prohibits certain classes of people, not just drug users, but for instance people with felony convictions or people under domestic violence restraining orders from possessing firearms, as the supreme court has pushed out new laws making it easier for people to have firearms both in home and public. there's been renewed scrutiny on this particular law, whether it survives that, whether the supreme court says it's still okay or says all or parts of it are unconstitutional is likely to be determined next term. >> and obviously there could be an impact here on this particular case. joyce vance, i appreciate your expertise. thanks very much. up next here on "ana cabrera reports" on the loose, again, such crazy video showing the mere seconds it took for a convicted murderer to escape a pennsylvania prison. plus, tracking the tropics, the latest on hurricane lee and where it could be heading. and why is the water glowing neon blue in california?
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wire and he's gone. authorities now confirm a whole hour passed before anyone sounded the alarm. cavalcante remains on the run this morning and the search for him is now entering week two. nbc news correspondent george solis joins us from chester county, pennsylvania. this escape appeared to happen remarkably fast, george. by our count it took just five seconds for him to creep up those walls. how's the prison defending that it took about an hour before anyone even noticed? >> reporter: yeah, ana, that video is certainly remarkable to watch. one thing that's important to note, the officials yesterday during the news conference said there was a guard in that security tower during the time of this escape. that guard has now been placed on administrative leave, and obviously there's video, right? that means there were cameras there. they likely just missed it because of how fast cavalcante was able to scale up that wall, crab walking and bypass that razor wire. let's look at this time line. it's very critical to understand how this played out.
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officials saying at 8:33 cavalcante entered this exercise yard. at 8:51 he escaped. by 9:45, the officers flagged that he was missing and they did a recount. 9:50 the prison was locked down, and at 10:01, that's when that escape alarm sounded that he was missing. almost basically an hour before they realized he was gone. there's a lot of questions here about how this all played out. we pressed officials about why it took so long to release this video. they said this was now part of the state attorney general's office investigation. the manhunt for him, as you said, now entering week two. >> officials are also defending the security there at the prison, even after we learned there was another escape just a few months ago. what are they saying? >> reporter: yeah, that's why that razor wire was there. this was the exact place where another inmate escaped from. they brought in consultants. they said we need to put razor
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wire here, and somehow cavalcante was able to bypass that. the new plan is to close off this exercise area. here's how the acting warden described the failure of security. >> we did have a consulting firm come out and identify how they were able to escape, and we thought we took appropriate measures to prevent that with the razor wire. the one thing we didn't take into account, we only focused on the physical structure and not necessarily human element. >> reporter: now that they're looking at putting this entire exercise yard in a cage, they're going to have more personnel looking at those cameras and they're physically going to have officers there in that area and monor monitoring how the inmates are behaving. they know they have to ramp up security to prevent this from happening. this is the second prison escape in just a few months. meanwhile, this community remains on edge wondering if this guy is ever going to get caught. >> the guy who could do some serious harm to people as he already has.
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thank you, george solis. we're tracking one-two punch of extreme weather, september scorcher still baking much of the country with intense heat, closing schools that just opened for the new school year. meanwhile, we're also following a new threat in the tropics, lee is now a hurricane and expected to intensify over the next few days. nbc news meteorologist angie lassman has it all covered. angie, let's start with hurricane lee. what's the latest forecast at this hour? >> we're expecting it to continue to rapidly intensify. it was in a bit of a lull as far as intensification is considered. that's not going to last. we're going to continue to see kind of a little better, well, more defined eye starting to show through, and it's going to enter some really warm water. while it's a category 1 right now with winds at 80 miles per hour, that is going to increase and we'll likely see a category 4 down the line. it is right now moving northwest
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at 13 miles per hour, and it's just under a thousand miles to the east of the northern leeward islands. those are some areas we're going to watch here. here's why i say indirect. as it becomes a category 4, it's fwog stay north of these islands. that doesn't mean we couldn't see some impacts as far as some outer rain bands or tropical storm force winds. the track error with the national hurricane center cone is about 90 miles. tropical storm force winds extend about 90 miles. we're going to see most models taking this at least offshore of the united states in the short-term. that will be something that we watch hear down the line. >> so fingers crossed that stays far away from land. let's talk about the heat. july and august were the hottest on record. september doesn't want to let it go. how much longer do we have to put our pumpkin spice lattes on hold? >> am i going to get canceled if
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i say i don't like pumpkin spice lay tas very much? we're going to get a little relief. by friday things will start to dial back. in the meantime, we've got nearly 70 million people under these heat alerts. if you live in the south, i am so sorry to report it doesn't look like you're going to get a lot of relief from this cold front the folks on the east are going to start to see get in play. 90s up and down the east coast, feeling like the triple digits. i know it was a problem at the u.s. open today -- yesterday rather, it will likely be a problem today too. dallas could see feels-like temperatures of 107 degrees. there's the cold front that's making a big difference across parts of the great lakes as we get into tomorrow. not much change else. look what happens behind that system. we'll start to see cooler conditions settling in and sure, 70s in places like chicago, go get your psl, ana. >> it's going to get cold before we know it. let's hold on tight.
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we're back with a new twist in the legal fight over that barrier made of buoys floating in the rio grand. a federal judge yesterday ordering texas to remove the buoys ruling the state violated federal law by installing them without federal approval. nbc's guad venegas is following the latest. guad, the judge says these buoys have got to go by september 15th, so is this the end of the fight? >> ana, it is not the end of the fight. texas already indicated that they plan to appeal this decision. the governor tweeted yesterday indicating that texas will
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appeal. they also accused the biden administration of not doing their job, as you can see here, the fight ain't over. he says that the court decision nearly prolongs president biden's willful refusal to acknowledge that texas is rightfully stepping had in to do the job he should be doing. so the next step would be for this to end up in an appeals court before it goes further, but the governor has already indicated that he plans to take this to the supreme court if necessary. now, ana, this is part of the lone star operation where texas is using state resources to patrol the border. they're using the national guard, state troopers, and now they've installed these buoys. this is costing so much money that they have, in fact, asked for donations to continue with this lone star operation where they're using these state resources to essentially do the job that should be done by the federal government. as of now, this latest court decision does ask them to remove those buoys by september 15th indicaing that the federal government is in charge of that
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part of the river because that's federal land and the texas government should have asked the army corps of engineers before installing these buoys. the next step would be to have this go to that appeals court and see what happens next. >> what's the latest anyway in terms of border crossings? what's happening? >> it's too early to tell. these buoys were installed in july. cbp, customs and border protection releases numbers of the whole southwest borders and they could be releasing numbers on the sector where this is located, which would have the number of encounters that both border parole officers and field officers have with cbt with undocumented immigrants. i had a conversation with the sheriff from this area earlier this month asking him if he saw a change in the number of undocumented migrants crossing. he said he didn't really see a notable change because a lot of the families that were crossing were just going around the buoys
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anyway. so what he did see was a symbol of the buoys being there, of course, and of course a danger that these buoys created. the numbers don't indicate that these buoys actually stopped the number of migrants that have crossed into the u.s., ana. >> thank you for your reporting. this morning students in the largest school district in the country are headed back to the classroom, teachers and familie big increase in enrolling students from migrant families as the busing of asylum seekers to cities all over the country contributes to a growing humanitarian crisis. nbc news correspondent antonia hylton has been talking to parents and kids, at least at one school in manhattan. antonia, what have you been hearing from these families about whether schools are ready to handle these challenges?
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>> reporter: hey, ana, most of the families i've spoken to this morning are really excited. there have been big smiles on lots of the kids's faces. even though there are all these pressures bearing down on the new york city school system, many of these kids, especially the little ones heading to elementary, they are pandemic babies. they are excited about the socialization. there's a lot of language skills they're still eagle to learn. the parents are very aware of what's going on, not only the uptick in cases and the schools have masks and rapid test kits on hand for them, but also the fact that their kids are going to be coming into classrooms with a lot of students who may be learning english for the first time and who come from all over the world here. according to the city, about 20,000 families of kids coming out of the shelter system over the last year have been enrolled in the school system, many of them come from migrant families who were bussed from the border up here to new york city and have been trying to find their way here in the united states. but everyone i've talked to this morning has had a very welcoming attitude. they say this is new york city.
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they've always had kids who have been in dual language classes, who have had neighbors from all over the world, neighbors who speak spanish with their kids. they're not too worried about it. they're excited for their kids to meet others. take a listen to a conversation i had with one dad. >> i'm actually glad he's going. he was born before the pandemic started, so his speech was a little bit delayed. we got him some help with some tutors. just ready for him to interact with other kids and see how he does with that. >> reporter: i also had a conversation with mike mullgrew, who is the uft president here. he oversees and fights on behalf of all the teachers here in new york city, and he told me that one of the misconceptions here is that it's just the language barrier that's a concern for families, and while that is an issue and we're seeing the city spend over $100 million to bring new teachers, to get people who are certified into the right
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positions in the classroom, there's also the question of just the trauma these children have been through. after this harrowing journey up from the border, what kind of resources, counselors need to be in place hear. that is in some ways the bigger challenge right now. >> thank you, antonia hylton for that. up next on "ana cabrera reports," thousands of fight underground, the urgent race against time to save a sick american trapped in one of turkey's deepest caves. n moves . setting trends is our business. we need to scale with customer demand... ...in real time. (jen) so we partner with verizon to take our operations to the next level. (marquis) with a custom private 5g network. (ella) with verizon business, we get more control of production, efficiencies, and greater agility. (marquis) so our customers get what they want, when they want it. (jen) it's not just a network. it's enterprise intelligence. (vo) learn more. it's your vision, it's your verizon.
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. we're back now with an nbc news exclusive, our own richard engel just had a one-on-one interview with secretary of state antony blinken during his surprise trip to ukraine. secretary blinken renewed the u.s. commitment in helping the war-torn country in its counteroffensive against russia, including pledging an additional billion dollars in support. the secretary spoke with richard about the state of u.s. diplomacy there in ukraine. >> now that we're in more of this slow, incremental, very costly in terms of lives phase os of this war, do you think it's harder to keep the american public on board? >> look, it's always challenging to keep people's attention on any one issue for any period of time because so much is happening around the world. it will end at some point with diplomacy, but the russians have to get to a point where they
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acknowledge that they failed. they are not going to succeed. they've already failed at what they were trying to do, which was to erase ukraine from the map, to end its identity as an independent country, to submit to russia. that's failed. >> so would you say that it's up to russia right now to come to the table? what about ukraine? do you think ukraine needs to make some concessions as well? >> there's no one to go to the table with in the case of ukraine because putin right now shows no evidence that he's interested in meaningful diplomacy. >> and you can watch more of richard engel's interview with secretary blinken tonight on nbc "nightly news". this morning a desperate attempt to save an american trapped thousands of feet underground. mark dickey is suffering from gastrointestinal bleeding and has been stuck deep inside the cave in southern turkey since saturday. right now more than 150 cave rescue experts are rushing there
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to save dickey who is highly trained himself as a caver and even a cave rescuer himself. kelly cobiella is joining us with more on this. kelly. >> medical teams and rescuers are now working around the clock to help save an elite american cave explorer who suddenly became critically ill saturday more than half a mile down in one of turkey's deepest caves. overnight, a team of expert cave divers descending underground in a complex effort to rescue american mark dickey who is trapped deep inside a turkish cave. the 40-year-old joined an international caving expedition in southern turkey in late august but fell ill earlier this month 3,000 feet below the surface. that's more than half a mile. carl heitmeyer is an expert in these types of rescues and a long-time friend of dickey. >> he's got some type of internal hemorrhaging, and he was semiconscious for about
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three days unable to keep anything down, barely able to move or talk. >> reporter: a serious condition requiring several blood transfusions while inside the cave leaving him unable to climb out on his own. morc is over 4,000 feet in depth, turkey's third deepest cave, with base camps at several stages, it will take rescuers 15 hours to reach dickey's position. >> he needs to be helped out of the cave. that is a very challenging prospect in a cave because it is dark, it's cold, it's wet, there are very tight passages. >> reporter: 150 rescuers from turkey, europe and the u.s. are now involved in the difficult operation. setting up rope lines inside the cave to remove dickey on a stretcher, an effort expected to begin this morning. the rescue so complicated, dickey is not expected to make it back to the surface for
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another four to eight days. his family staying positive, telling nbc news in a statement, they're extremely grateful to the volunteers trying to rescue dickey, and for the others who are underground with him. adding mark is strong, but he needed his fellow cavers to allow a devastatingly scary situation to turn positive. how do you think he's dealing with this right now? >> he's in good spirits. he always has a great smile. >> reporter: the good news is his friends say he's getting stronger, he's able to eat, he's able to walk on his own. but he still needs to be evacuated because the climb out is simply too strenuous for him in his condition. talk about ironic, dickey is considered one of the best in the field. he's the guy who teaches how to explore caves safely and how to conduct these kinds of rescues. a lot of the rescuers are volunteers as well, and dickey's friends have set up a gofundme
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page to help support that effort. >> what a wild journey. kelly cobiella, thank you. up next on "ana cabrera reports," the boss on a break. why bruce springsteen is postponing the rest of his september concerts. plus, under pressure, the frenzied auction of freddie mercury's items, including the bohemian rhapsody piano. bohemian rhapsody piano. age is just a number, and mine's unlisted. try boost® high protein with 20 grams of protein for muscle health versus 16 grams in ensure® high protein. boost® high protein. now available in cinnabon® bakery-inspired flavor. learn more at boost.com/tv i was told my small business wouldn't qualify for an erc tax refund. you should get a second opinion from innovation refunds at no upfront cost. sometimes you need a second opinion. [coughs] good to go. yeah, i think i'll get a second opinion. all these walls gotta go! ah ah ah! i'd love a second opinion. no. i'm going to get a second opinion. with innovation refunds,
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rock star bruce springsteen was born to run, but he is slowing down this month. the boss postponing the rest of his concerts for september to be treated for symptoms of peptic ulcer disease. on the advice of his doctors, he rain checked his next eight shows across the northeast and the midwest. so let's bring in nbc news correspondent anne thompson for more details here. the boss, this isn't the first time he had to cancel some concerts, right? >> no. but it was a real shock because just sunday night he did a three-hour show, a marathon show at metlife stadium with a new set list, new encore list and just wowed the crowd. and then last night, we learned that even at 73 years old, the boss has his limits. after rocking out in his native new jersey just days ago -- ♪ baby, we were born to run ♪ bruce springsteen shared surprising news overnight, he's being treated for symptoms of peptic ulcer disease and his
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doctors advised him to postpone the remainder of his september shows. the 73-year-old rock 'n' roll legend adding in a statement, over here on e street, we're heart broken to have to postpone these shows. thank you for your understanding and support. we have been having a blast at our u.s. shows and we're looking forward to more great times. we'll be back soon. this isn't the first time the boss has had to reschedule shows this year, due to illness. in march, the born to run singer canceled performances in connecticut, ohio, and new york. and just a few weeks ago, he missed two shows in philadelphia, citing an unspecified illness. according to doctors, peptic ulcers are usually caused by bacterial stomach infections, symptoms can include burning stomach pain, bloating, heartburn, and nausea. during a may performance in amsterdam, springsteen fell on stage while climbing steps with a guitar. appearing unharmed, he continued
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to show. his worldwide tour this year has drawn big crowds and big names. former first lady michelle obama even joined the 22-time grammy winner on stage at a show in barcelona in april. fans who had been looking forward to the shows this month sending well wishes, and hoping for more glory days ahead. ♪ glory days ♪ there is springsteen and steve van zandt. he was supposed to take the month of october off. april -- or excuse me, the month of october off anyways. and then resume touring in vancouver in november. and that looks like the schedule now, ana, but between now and then, he's going to turn 74. so we'll see. >> so incredible. the energy he has. >> unbelievable. >> the clips, it's like, you'd think he's a young whipper snapper. >> how he still does three-hour shows is -- i don't think
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anybody can believe it at the age of 74 -- or 73, soon to be 74. >> i sure hope he recovers quickly. thanks, anne. before we go, there's another rock legend in the news today. have you ever wondered what it would be like to play on freddie mercury's piano? it just sold for over $2 million at sotheby's auction house. don't stop me now. it is just one part of a six-part auction, where hundreds of the star's personal possessions are up for sale. a ruby and diamond watch, with an estimate of about $10,000, a stage-worn costume for a cool 60,000 bucks. or the actual autographed manuscript of "bohemian rhapsody," all yours for a mere $1.5 million. or maybe if you're lucky you've got somebody to love who can buy it for you. that's going to do it for us today. thanks so much for joining us.
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we're back tomorrow, same time, same place. until then, reporting from new york, i'm ana cabrera. thank you for being here. jose diaz-balart picks up our coverage right now. good morning. it is 11:00 a.m. eastern, 8:00 a.m. pacific. i'm jose diaz-balart. four months and 150 witnesses, that's the prosecution's plan for the trial of former president donald trump and his 18 co-defendants in georgia's election interference case. but the judge isn't sold that it is a realistic plan. hunter biden could be facing new charges in a matter of weeks. potentially setting up a stage for a trial in the midst of his father's re-election bid. meanwhile, in pennsylvania, the manhunt for an escaped killer goes into its second week and we have got new video showing him, take a look at that, crab walking his way out of prison. in new york city, the mayor saying this about the lack of support he's getting from the federal government as migrants and asylum seekers arrive from the bde
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