power, and the 21st century's greatest dilemma. mustafa suleyman, they do so much for being on the show this morning, we appreciate it. >> that does it for, us we're back on monday, six a.m., and bright and early. have a great weekend. a great weekend >> this is the katie phang show live from miami florida. we have lots of news to cover and lots of questions to answer, it's what he started. >> deadly earthquake. more than 800 people killed as a powerful quake rocks morocco, toppling buildings, and sending panic residents into the streets. we will have a live report on this mounting disaster, ahead. biden, abroad, the president is in india at the g20 summit for the first time since winning the white house. his plan to counter china's rise as an economic superpower.

and bombshell revelations. a judge denies mark meadows request to move his georgia election interference case to federal court. while the fulton county federal georgia -- releases its report, which recommends charges for united states senator lindsey graham, and former united states senator david perdue and kelly loeffler among many others. for trying to help the twice impeached, one-term president cling to power. we're gonna take a deeper dive into this new information, and what it all means for donald trump's legal troubles. all of that and more, coming up. we begin this morning with breaking news out of morocco, where rescue efforts are underway after a rare and powerful 6.8 magnitude earthquake overnight claimed hundreds of lives, and damaged historic buildings and sites.

morocco's interior ministry saying at least 820 people are now dead, and more than 600 others are injured. with both of those figures expected to rise as the search for survivors continues in the more remote areas, near the quake's epicenter. nbc news foreign correspondent matt bradley joins us now live from turkey. matt thank you for getting us started this morning. what is the latest that you can tell us about the rescue efforts? >> yes, the rescue effort is continuing in place, where local authorities in the military are doing their best to dig survivors out of wreckage and rubble. this truck in the high atlas mountains, about 50 miles away from the historic city of marrakech. where the city itself, the old town, did get some damage, though this earthquakes those tremors were felt all across the countries. this was a 6.8 magnitude earthquake as you mentioned. according to the u.s. geological survey, that would make it the most powerful earthquake to obstruct morocco in the last 123 years.

now also according to the u.s. geological survey, a lot of the homes in this area are really just inadequate to face things like this tremor. you mentioned how this is a rare event. there are earthquakes in this region. but this is a particularly powerful one. but most of the population lives in homes that are made of -- blocks, or unenforce concrete. that's why you mentioned, those numbers will probably go up. but right now, yes, it's about 620 dead. and those numbers, as i said, are expected to increase probably throughout the day. maybe throughout the week, as this rescue effort continues. but the rescue effort, that we heard from the government, and finally we heard it from the prime minister, and the king himself, this was hours after the initial earthquake, finally saying that we will be helping. we haven't heard anything from the government, and so far, the moroccan government has an asked for international assistance. though the red cross, and world health organization, along with governments of the united states and france have all pledged to pitch in if they are asked to. and now local health

authorities in morocco are asking people to donate blood, to help those injured survivors. and again, i think this is probably going to be getting a lot worse as we start to see a rescue efforts continue, and we see more bodies pulled out of the rubble. katie. >> matt, tragically, already that number is exceeding 800, as you and i have this conversation right now. matt bradley, thank you so much for getting us started on the latest out of morocco. we appreciate it. now we're gonna turn to president biden, who's overseas with other world leaders in india for the start of the g20 summit. today biden another leaders are expected to announce plans for a rail and shipping project, linking india to the middle east and europe. this comes as the president is hoping to use the summit to tout the u.s. to the world as a better economic and security product, partner than china. joining me now is nbc news white house correspondent mike meadow who is live from new delhi with more. mike, good morning, it is good to see. what is on the agenda for president biden today. this being the first day of two

day summit? >> well hey there katie. who as we are now in the evening hours, there has been a quite packed agenda for the g20 members today. now every g20 summit in some ways takes on a course determined by its host. in india, you have a country that really sees itself as something of a gateway between the world's major economies. the g20 is, by definition, representing the largest economies in the world. and as well as the developing world. especially, we're talking about africa, and southeast asia. these developing economies. so the course has been said by india, and with largely a consensus on the part of the united states, and biden administration, has been about ways in which they can use major economic forum, and institutions like the g20, as well as the world bank, to support, better support these developing economies. and primarily as a way of the united states exerting more of its own influence in the process, versus china, which has been accused of some predatory practices in terms of lending to nations. we're also seeing major

initiatives like climate. there will be a greater effort to finance efforts on part of the developing world to reach climate goals, while not sacrificing their own economic development. you mentioned, what we expect to see, potentially this hour, as the g20 is reconvening as we speak. a major announcement about infrastructure project that would further integrate india with our european, as well as african economies as well. now a large storyline here at the g20 has also been who is not here. we do not see russian president vladimir putin. we do not see china's president, xi jinping. white house officials have both been saying that is a disappointed, a disappointment. they wanted to see those leaders at the table, but using this as an example to prove the emphasis of president biden's foreign policy. which is that democracy is not autocracy like china, and are the best means for delivering on the part of not just their individual countries, but for the world as a whole, katie. >> mike, thank you so much for getting us started as well. i appreciate that. and back in the united states,

friday, a huge news day in fulton county as a federal judge denied mark meadows attempts to remove the georgia state case against him to federal court. judge steve jones saying in his ruling, quote, there is no federal jurisdiction over the case. the outcome of this case will before a fulton county judge, and a -- to ultimately decide. this is a major setback for donald trump's former chief of staff, who was hoping for a more favorable jury pool in federal court. it is also a signal to former president trump, and 17 other codefendants, that it will be an uphill battle to get their case removed at a state court should they choose to do so. meadows in the meantime as already filed his appeal, or notice of appeal, and another major piece of news out of fulton county. a newly unveiled report shows the special grand jury recommended indictments for more than three dozen people in the georgia election interference probe. that includes the names of 21 people who were not indicted in a separate criminal grand jury last month. notable mentions include

senator lindsey graham of south carolina. floor mare -- david perdue and kelly loeffler. also michael flynn and boris epstein. joining me now is msnbc legal analyst, and one of the co-host of the hasse sisters in law podcast. barbara, good morning, we'll start with this new order from mark meadows federal judge who said, that's not gonna work, or not taking your case in federal court. putting aside that meadows has already filed his notice of appeal. i want to get your top line fall thoughts barb on whether not you think this new ruling, from judge jones will act as a deterrent for other codefendants in fulton county from trying to remove their cases. >> yes, katie, i do not see anybody else succeeding. mark went first, and really, it is not a surprise to me that the judge ruled the way he did. the real question is, when these individuals were acting in the kind described in the indictment, were they acting within the scope of their federal employment. the reason they get paid by the

taxpayers. or were they instead acting in a political capacity. on behalf of the trump campaign. what the judge found here is that the bulk of the conduct by mark meadows was political, and not governmental execution of the law. so for that reason, it belongs in state court. i don't think any of the other defendants who are federal officers are going to fare any better. maybe they will try. but it really is the same analysis, the same kind of conduct. we will see what happens on appeal, but i do not see this case leaving fulton county. >> barbara, let's talk about that. when it goes on appeal, because it came from a federal district court, it goes to the 11th circuit court of appeals. which we know said has a little conservative leaning these days. do you reasonably anticipated going as far as scotus? >> it could. you know, i don't, because i think it's a pretty clear, correct answer. i think the 11th circuit will affirm this. i think they will do so fairly swiftly. because of the need to move this case along.

but why not? i think mark meadows is likely to appeal to the supreme court. i think under most circumstances, i would expect that this not be the kind of issue the court would take up. you know, the court typically only takes up issues where there is an open question of law or circuit split. here the judge is applying law. there's no question about the law. it's just about whether these facts fit the law. under normal circumstances, i'd say no. the supreme court would not take this case up. but in light of some of the things we've seen from the court in recent years, in terms of dogs, bruin, other things, i've sort of lost my confidence in my ability to predict what the supreme court might do. >> so barbara, let's actually get into the mind of mark meadows and his counsel for a second. it was a pretty calculated move, yet unnecessary one for mark meadows to have to testify in his own defense at the evidentiary hearing in front of judge jones. he had to show what his state of mind was as a federal officer at the time he undertook the actions that he did on behalf of donald trump. table to establish that he was

acting under the collar of his federal office. do you think it backfired, putting aside the obvious loss he just sustained by the revamped a state court? he now has sworn testimony, under oath, under policies of perjury, and any defendant that tries to remove would have to do the same thing to carry that burden, right? >> i do, i think, i agree with you number one. anyone who tries to do, this probably has to testify, it is their burden, they have to show why they were acting within the scope of their federal employment. what mark meadows confessed to hear, i think it's going to be very damaging to him. he essentially said he did all these things because donald trump told him to. he's my boss. what, why did you stop, he said i didn't want to be eldon. i think, it really shows that they were blindly obeying whatever donald trump asked them to do. and you know, these were involving themselves in political activities. calling the secretary of state. he admitted to doing that. showing up matching signatures to ballots.

he admitted to that. it does not go all the way to confessing to the crimes. but he is now locked into many admissions that will help the prosecution advance this case against him. >> quickly barb, i was in court with judge mcafee a few days ago. that feels like a lifetime ago based upon this news cycle. during that hearing, the judge was dealing with whether or not he was gonna have all 19 defendants go to trial together, or just have kenneth -- the speedy trial defendant start their trial on october 24th third. the state has to turn in briefing on thursday addressing it. but one of the things the judge, asked which i thought was so one point, was the issue of double jeopardy. he raised the removal issue. the fact that perhaps could be in the process from windsor losses in federal court, that could maybe effect to the timing when you swear in a jury, thereby having jeopardy attached. any thoughts about that? i know you and i are gonna spitball this a little legally. but i thought it was a really compelling point that he brought up to the state. >> it is interesting. i think we expected a fairly swift decision from justice

jones, so that would all be decided before this case in georgia ever went to trial. it raises a good point about appeals. and so what you don't want to do, even the prosecutor doesn't want to do this, but start this trial in georgia, only to find out that it has to go to federal court, based on what the 11th circuit does, or like you said, even the supreme court does. once that jury is sworn in georgia, double jeopardy would recoup them from being charged in federal court. and so there is some risk there. i think what they could do is set a trial date, wait and see, and if the appeal is still pending, they could kick it down the road at that point. i think if i were a judge, i'm not, but if i were the judge, i think that's what i would do. >> i think maybe you should be. barb mcquade is gonna stick around so we can continue this important conversation after the break. and still to come on the katie phang show, denied and disqualified. how a group of colorado voters are using a section of the 14th amendment of the u.s. constitution to try and boot donald trump off the ballot ahead of 2024. will other states follow suit? plus, trump's rally in south

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anything like it. that means if i win, and somebody wants to run against me, i call my attorney general, i say listen. indict him. well he hasn't done anything wrong. they go, i don't know, invite, indicted on income tax and ration. you'll figure it out. >> former president trump eschewing a familiar message at a campaign rally in south dakota last night. if you come for me, i'm coming for you. and as expected, trump also secured of major enforcement from south dakota governor kristi noem, who's widely speck speculated to be a potential vice president choice should

trump win the nomination. i'm back with msnbc legal analyst barbara mcquade. you know barr, putting aside trump's, just, ridiculous, repetitive nature of saying everything is a political witch hunt. he did keep on saying to the people at this rally, i am being indicted for you. but i want to switch gears, now and talk about that special grand jury report that came out of fulton county, the other big news out of atlanta, there were 21 people that were recommended for criminal charges by the special grand jurors who sat unserved. they were not indicted by that second grand jury, that return to bills against donald, trump in the 18 other defendants that are currently pending trial. so, it just kind of goes to show, the process works, meaning the criminal justice system is blind. it's not just politically prosecuting people. but, barb i wanted to ask you, the fact that there were 21 people recommended by that special grand jury, but we're not indicted, does that mean that fani willis did not actually present evidence concerning those 21? >> you, know it's difficult to know that katie.

i think there are a number of reasons why she could have made this ultimate decision. it may be that the grand jury chose not to indict. that she sought indictments against some of, them in the grand jury disagreed with that. it is also possible that she was exercising some prosecutorial discretion. just because you can indict someone, based on probable cause, it doesn't always mean that a prosecutor should indict. that's where prosecutor really earns their chops. spending some time analyzing the evidence, and the law, and deciding whether it's worth a candle to indict that person. it might be with regard to some of these people, she thought the evidence was not sufficient to secure a conviction beyond reasonable doubt. it may be that she thought there were legal defenses that would just mock things up with regard to the senators, it could be they would try and rely on the speech or debate clause to slow things down. that may be the reason. or interestingly katie, i think one thing that intrigues me, some of these may be cooperating. there are unindicted coconspirators in the indictment, so from the time of

january, when the issue the report, this was december when they issued the report, until she filed that indictment in august, there is a lot of activity happening, a lot of investigation. it seems impossible to me that she's secured the cooperation of release some of those fake electors, if not others. barb, to that point, we know that at least eight of the fake electors, there were 16 of them in georgia, who received immunity deals. that maybe that is the reason we did see them as codefendants in that indictment that came out. the status indicated they have 150 witnesses. i was said yesterday we are certainly seeing some of those witnesses in the special grand jury report in terms of those names. do they appear voluntary when this case goes to trial? october 23rd, kenya's president know, sydney powell, they go to trial. these witnesses, someone like whitney graham, what he'd come to a subpoena, what would happen to have him testify in a case like someone against kenneth chesebro in sydney powell? >> he may want to invoke his fifth amendment right against self incrimination. the fact that this special grand jury recommended that he

be indicted, it does indicate that he has some criminal exposure here. so it could be that his lawyer requests immunity for him to testify. if that is not received, then he may refused to testify. and then when you've got these two different cases pending, the federal, case and stay case, you have to worry about, even if fani willis isn't going to charge you, there is a possibility he'd be charged federally. so because of that exposure. it may be some of these witnesses demand immunity before they agreed to testify and waved their fifth amendment rights against self incrimination. so in other words, they may not all be done yet. right? barbara mcquade. i am sure it's not done yet. i appreciate your time today, we will have you back so we can break it all down. thank you for being here. >> thank you katie. >> and still to come on the katie phang show. coming up, rogue behavior. alabama's brazen defiance of a supreme court order, striking down the races gerrymandered voting apps, maps, and the

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it cannot be as -- to enact a compliant map, but failed to do so. joining me now, joel ross, the deputy director of litigation from the and a double cpa legal defense fund. -- the aforementioned voting case in before the united states supreme court. i think the language from that panel was pretty kind and polite. we're both lawyers, no way we would have the nerve to flagrantly defying a court order. let alone one from the united states supreme court. so is this just further evidence that alabama republicans think that there is another standard for them? as they continue to pursue disenfranchisement of the black vote in their state? >> i think this is a brazen example of why the voting right acts was first created. you know, states passing discriminatory laws, striking them down, and then states passing laws that do the exact

same thing all over again. and so this is unprecedented in the modern era. it is not something that alabama and other states haven't done before, in terms of trying to disenfranchise voters with the different variations on old discriminatory laws. >> lawmakers for instance didn't even have to create an additional district with a majority black population. just one that came close. so why this is such an issue? why does it continue to be such an issue? >> i think alabama is trying to go back to the supreme court. they've been pretty blatant that they think that the supreme court is going to change its mind, even the court was very clear just two months ago that the voting rights act, it still was needed. it's constitutional. and that what alabama, that they were in play in violation of it. black voters, like all voters, haven't deserve the opportunity -- and what alabama's doing is lately defying the courts order in a way that is really, you

know, surprising. to say the least. >> so i want to go back for a second no. i think this is a really important point. people complained about how there really is an equal application of the law. how certain people get away with more because of their skin color, or maybe their wealth. in this instance, how is it that something more akin to maybe a contempt finding, in violation of an order, or something that has more teeth, hasn't actually applied to the republicans that are doing it right now the state legislature? >> you know, what happened here is that essentially, finding alabama is in violation of the courts order. and a court has taken a way to sort of engage in this process. they are two opportunities to draw a district in black voters and has twice rejected the opportunity to be fair to all voters. and so the court has taken away the ability to draw a new. mathis put in place a special -- that's going to comply with a

court of order, and it's under the direction to do so. >> but state republicans, as you know, plan to appeal a court's decision to a supreme court. asking for the panels order to be put on hold. but we are hurtling towards another pivotal major election year. so what is the impact of the timing of appeal to this report here? >> i think it's really unlikely that this report is going to reverse itself, just two months ago the supreme court affirmed a ruling in which it said the panel had said that alabama had to draw two districts amongst black voters had a bigger opportunity -- instead of complying with that court order as you noted, they ignored it into a map in which black voters candidates when none of the elections. and so, -- we don't know what would happen

in any court decision. >> joel, what should the special master's map look like if it wants to be compliant with the orders of the supreme court? >> the supreme court and the trial court looked at 11 maps that our experts had drawn, that create new additional minority districts. and the trial court says -- of what the special master, and what alabama could've done to provide its voters with a bigger opportunity. as you noted, those districts don't have to be majority black. just where the they can elect a candidate of their choice. >> joel ross. i don't know if you'll have to end up arguing once again. maybe the supreme court doesn't take up this appeal. but if they do, we'll be watching you. thanks for joining us this morning and explaining this important issue. frankly, i'm still stunned how flagrantly violent, violated and defiant they were. but i appreciate you being here. >> thank you for having me. >> sure. coming up after the break,

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january six, in attempt to overthrow the results of the 2020 election, and his interference with the peaceful transfer of power, constitutionally disqualifies him from holding public office again. that's the argument being made this week in colorado. where group of voters, four republican, and to unaffiliated, filed a lawsuit to keep the twice impeached, quadruple indicted, disgraced, one-term president off the ballot. -- no person should hold any office, if they quote, engage an insurrection or rebellion after taking an oath to support the constitution. while colorado may be the first state to test trump's constitutional eligibility, it certainly will be the last. colorado secretary of state, janet griswold says she's been talking to other secretaries of state about it. telling politico that quote, we can expect a lot of lawsuits filed on this issue across the nation. joining me now is donald sherman, executive vice president and chief counsel of citizens for responsibility and ethics in washington.

which filed a lawsuit in colorado on behalf of the plaintiffs. donald, it is nice to have you here to kind of break this down a little bit more for our viewers. i just cited to the language of the 14th amendment section three. it's explicitly korea clear. if you construe that language, trump and others are barred from holding public office again. has this theory been tested before in courts? >> thank you so much for having me on. it has been tested in courts. in fact, my organization last year represented three new mexico residents who successfully utilized section three, of the 14th amendment, to remove blake griffin, a new mexico official from office based on his role in engaging in the january six insurrection. the court found a number of things, including that the first time in 150 years that a person who engages in insurrection, after taking an

oath to defend the constitution is barred from office. mr. griffin recruited people to come to d.c., to go to battle for president trump to stop the steal. the court also found that you don't need to be convicted of a crime to be disqualified under section three. nor do you have to be filing yourself to be disqualified. there is a lot of parallels between donald trump and coy griffin. we believe there is a very strong case, and this has been confirmed by legal experts across the ideological spectrum, that donald trump is also disqualified. >> so donald, seeing you had success in new mexico, you have this litigation in colorado that's currently pending, we know donald trump is trying to remove it to federal court. as lawyers, i'm sure we never thought we'd actually be dealing with removal as much as we have been dealing with removal lately. is this litigation strategy, section three of the 14th amendment, is a truly a one

size fits all strategy? a blueprint for any and all states that want to deploy it? >> now. it's certainly, the constitution obviously applies to every state. and it applies across the country. but not every state has the state law mechanisms to afford voters, look at our clients and colorado, to get into court to sue to remove a constitutionally disqualified official from the ballot. that's one of the reasons, in addition to the fact that we had six brave plaintiffs who are willing to put their names forward under colorado law. they have the right to sue to, to enforce former president trump's disqualification under state law. >> and let's just say that your colorado case survives a motion to dismiss by trump, putting aside the movement in federal court brought back to state court. what will it take to win.

meaning, do you need to prove trump's actions leading up to january six and thereafter? >> yes, we are prepared to present evidence and witnesses, a they're witnesses to prove donald trump was disqualified because he engaged in an insurrection against the constitution of the united states after taking an oath to slip and, to support and defend the constitution. it's also important to remember, this laws of public evidence of this already. there's by partisan votes of the house and senate, showing donald trump incited an insurrection. a bipartisan report from the january six committee that found donald trump was the central cause of the insurrection. and recommended that section three be used to ensure the insurrectionists don't, once again, get the keys to the government. so, we are prepared to go to court to prove our case. but there is also, there's also

been a public case, already proven. and we plan to present that evidence, and other evidence as well. >> so donald, there is an op-ed that just came out. just a couple days ago. on september 7th from michael mookie casey. former attorney general, former president prosecutor. unknown republican. that's interesting, right? two of the leading scholars that are kind of pushing this concept of section 3:14 of the amendments are republican. so just a party affiliation intern of itself is not any disqualifier. but michael says the following. he claims that, this is farfetched in my opinion, but i wanted to ask you this. donald trump was not an officer of the united states when he took his oath on january 20th, 2016. so because he wasn't an officer of the united states, because he was an elected official, he cannot be barred by the 14th amendment from seeking

reelection. what is your retort councillor? >> he's wrong. you know, there's a lot of people with opinions about section three. but there's actually not a lot of experts in section three. i think professor laurence tribe or mention this in an interview earlier this week. but there is not a lot of debate among the scholars that a study section three of the 14th amendment for any length of time. as you mentioned, there were, there is 126-page article released last month, by two conservative legal scholars, who studied this issue for a year. and they concluded that donald trump is disqualified. that the president of the united states is an office under the united states. and in direct -- former attorney general concluded. >> donald, i have to let you go, i ran out of time, which makes me sad, because they really

want to dive more into this. but i want to note, those two law professors, both members of the federalist society. so to your point, again, it's not part affiliation, is the law, and how the law is construed. in my opinion, it looks pretty black lettered. donald sherman, keep us posted on how this litigation is going, not only in colorado, but other states. we appreciate you. and coming up next, rise to the runway. the harvard grad who transformed her trauma into triumph. bringing it to new york fashion week. one of time existence 2022 women of the year. a man to win on how she's using fashion to fight for survivors of sexual violence worldwide. ual violence worldwide j.p. morgan wealth management knows it's easy to get lost in investment research. get help with j.p morgan personal advisors. hey, david! ready to get started? work with advisors who create a plan with you,

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the show, which gives survivors and their allies a chance to walk the runway and reclaim their power, returns on monday for a third year. joining me now is amanda nguyen the founder of rise, and one of times 2022 women of the year. and in 2019 nobel peace prize nominee. amanda, if i had to read all your accomplishments, we would not have enough time. i will tell my viewers, i say this publicly, i want my little girl to grow up to be just like you. that's why i want you to tell our viewers right now why this survivors fashion show on monday is so important to empower, not only survivors, but allow their allies to have a chance to show support as well. >> absolutely, and i didn't realize you would say all of that. more than just the show. so, i'm really tearing up. thank you so much. the survivor fashion show centers around a question that people often get asked at fashion shows on the red carpet. which is, i love your outfit, what were you wearing to that

show. i love fashion, and i remember the show, at a show being asked this. i had this light bulb moment. what were you wearing, also the exact words that i was asked after my rape. and one context it's celebrating you for your creativity, your agency, what you choose to put on you. in the other is the polar opposite. it is shaming you for the violence that happened to you. in that moment, i actually felt really healed at that show. when somebody asked me that question. i could feel those words echoing through my history. i wanted all survivors to feel that moment of healing to. and so, this show is a celebration of survivors and allies. rebuking that stigma, and reclaiming our power. survivors walked the runway. they are paired with designers. so that they are dressed in wonderful outfits they feel great in. and then allies walked the runway as well to feel just

celebrating with the survivors. so often survivors are put on a glass pedestal, a glass box. and asked to perform our trauma over and over. we are not allowed to heal and thrive. and so this is a situation where we're dealing with something that is heavy, but also we want to give survivors their chance of opportunity to speak of this process also. >> amanda, the genesis story in some way was the work that you did at the united nations, your efforts to get a global resolution passed to provide some protection. albeit, even in countries where masaji is still so rampant and dominant, to victims of sexual assault, and the survivors of those really kind of levels of violence. keller viewers briefly about the exhibition you did at the united nations building. >> thank you. during the pandemic there were very strict rules for --

to enter the united station's headquarters. we were fighting for the world's first united nations general assembly solution that would solely focused on rape and peacetime. that had you have been passed. so after we drafted it for six years, we were fighting for this. but after being. essentially locked out of the building, how our voices would still be hard. so what we did, he split up into five regional groups of the year. were made up of a coalition of survival's around the world. i said okay, if we can't be in the building, we will still have our stories told. what we did is we took these mannequins, dress forms, and we put the outfits that we were assaulted in on those draft forms. five of them, from each five of us around the world. and the exhibit was in the lobby. diplomats, the president of the general assembly, deputy secretary general. they ran into this piece. from far looks like a fashion exhibit. when you come up close, you read what it's about, where the

outfits are from, and why we were fighting for this resolution, it really moved them. that our exhibit worked wonders. i really grateful that it did. we ended up passing unanimously the united nations general assembly resolution last september. >> and amanda, we're coming up on a seven year anniversary, on october 7th of the bipartisan sexual salts survivors bill here in the united states. talk about why, the fact we're hitting that seven year anniversary marcus so important to you. >> you know, i look back, and i still remember the moment that it passed. i couldn't imagine what empowerment felt like, and what justice felt like until that moment. i feel like sometimes we wake, up it seems like it's a garbage dumpster fire. but i want people to know that it's possible to pen your own civil rights into existence. that you can act absolutely be

from a place of trauma and pain and transform that. you know, i wish that for everyone, struggling with anything, to all survivors. not only do i believe you, but i also know that if you feel like this system isn't made for you, and yeah, the law has a gender, and it's not female. you can do something to change that. you do have agency in this democracy that we live in. >> i mandela, spending time with you is not always, it's always inspiration to me. that's why i say i want my daughter to grow up like you. for those of you watching, amanda is training to be an astronaut. why not trent conquer space as well? i will see you on monday. i'm honored to be walking the rise fashion show on monday, amanda nguyen thank you for joining us. thank you to all of you for joining me this morning. i'm getting choked up. i'll be here tomorrow, where i will welcome the ceo of the anti defamation league,

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