well. that could be the case along the east coast as we go throughout next week or at least like week into next weekend. this is what we are looking at in terms of the atlantic, tropical storm marco formed. that will be a -- storm. hurricane lee, now a category three storm. we are looking at winds near 1:13 miles per hour. remember, it was a category five yesterday, it intensified, 85 miles per hour within 24 hours. today we're sitting the and the correct impacts. we are expecting it to stay north of the leeward islands of puerto rico. the virgin islands, that is good. news here at the stats. we are looking at the location, 350 miles east northeast of that northern leeward islands. the winds are at 115 miles an hour, making that category three storm, the hurricane category. we are moving quickly, we are going to see it halt as we go throughout the next couple of days. here is the forecast to track that latest updates. right around two, o'clock we are going to see it intensified to a category four. then we will make this track around here. we are seeing the intensity and

category four strength. look what happens, alex, it will curve towards the. right this is still to be determined. we have it area of high pressure, the jet stream will work together to stewart. we will watch it very closely. no, it is still thursday at 9:00, still out of the atlantic. back to. you >> thank you for all of, that, michele appreciated. in this, our denied, why a judge said no to mark met owes. also they made the list that nobody wanted to be. on but they could have made it even worse. why weren't they indicted? new theories found on. that the fist bump seen around the world, it might have eclipsed at the g20. i bid you all a good day from nbc news in los angeles. welcome everyone to alex witt reports. we begin with the breaking news out of morocco, where devastating 6.8 magnitude earthquake that struck friday night has killed more than 1000 people. it is the most powerful quake

to hit that area and over a century. the epicenters in the mountainous area outside the historic city of marrakech, where right now search and rescue teams are desperately working to find survivors. and bases, matt, bradley is following the story for us from overseas. matt, welcome back. what more can you tell us about the destruction and the rescue effort underway? >> alex, this is a frenzied rescue effort. turkey, at the moment, covering a different story. i'm on my way to morocco. in just a couple of hours, turkey was the site of another devastating earthquake back in february. we spoke about this a moment ago. that was an issue where there were people who were taken out from under the rubble after five, six, seven days. i'm hoping that that is going to be the case in morocco. this is a situation where people are having trouble reaching some of the more remote regions in the high atlas mountains. this is where a lot of the devastation is thought to be because that is where the epicenter, is about 50 miles outside of that historic city of marrakech that you

mentioned. so a lot of the streets, a lot of the roads that lead up into the mountains are of course damaged by the same earthquake that has damage so many homes and buildings and communities. so there is a delay in reaching them and finding a lot more victims. a lot more survivors. i think we are going to see, as the rescue efforts, and as the recovery effort from the dead picks up pace, we're going to see those numbers, as you mentioned earlier, already sky-high increasing even more in the coming days. possibly weeks, alex? >> it is extraordinary. keep your eye on things for, us we will get you once, again thank you so much, matt bradley. let's go now to some more breaking. news president biden is wrapping up a busy day one in the g20 summit in india. before departing for the, day the president announced plans to invest in a historic international rail system that would now like india, at the middle east, and europe. >> the world stands an

inflection point in history. a point where decisions we make to say we're going to affect the course of the future, all of our futures for decades to come. a point where our investments are more critical than ever. when we invest in low, middle income countries, all countries benefit. >> back here in the states, a judge is dealing a major blow to trump's former chief of staff and codefendant, mark meadows, meadows request to move his georgia election interference case to a federal court has been denied. the ruling is an early win for d.a., fani willis, who has made it clear she wants to try all 19 defendants at once. and that, of course, includes donald trump. a super pac is when pouring $13 million into a massive ad blitz across six battleground states in the hope of giving president biden a boost ahead of 2024. we have more on what this means for his campaign in a moment. this all comes as a colorado watch group is filing a lawsuit to keep donald trump off the states ballot.

this is from the 14th amendment. this morning on msnbc, colorado secretary of state, we weighed in on this legal challenge. >> section three of the 14th amendment clearly lays out in clear terms that if someone swears to uphold the constitution, they are disqualified from holding office. so if we see the litigation through, ultimately i think it's important for our court to weigh in to provide guidance. >> well, colorado is expected to be the first of many attempts to disqualify donald trump ahead of the primaries. similar efforts also unfolding in at least five other states right now. let's go to embassies, julie tsirkin, on the judges decision to deny mark meadows request to move his case to federal court. julie, how is this ruling complicating meadows and his codefendants legal strategies? >> alex, it is a major setback. not only for mark meadows case, but also for the other five codefendants who want to make a similar move and made a similar action. that includes former president,

trump, who this week said he was considering making that move, trying to throw his case out of the fulton county jurisdiction and into the federal court. that could impact his legal strategy moving forward. >> former trump chief of staff, mark meadows, dealt a major blow with the georgia election interference case. u.s. district judge, steve, jones denied his attempt to move the case to federal court. saying his alleged involvement in pressuring state officials to overturn the 2020 election result was not part of meadows work as a government official. jones writing meadows efforts to prove he was acting in his formal capacity as a white house employee and not on behalf of the trump campaign, quote, falls short. meadows lawyers hope to have the court heard in federal court where they can invoke special immunity protections. the judges decision for now is not impacting other defendants who have filed similar actions. that includes former president, donald trump. who, along with his 18

codefendants, pled not guilty. his lawyer said that he too may seek removal of his prosecution. with a final decision to be made by the end of the month. in the meantime, mr. trump's firing back. after the release of a special grand jury report on friday, showing the panel originally recommended prosecutors filed charges against 39 people in the georgia election interference case. trump, writing that the fulton county district attorney, quote, wanted to indict anybody who happened to be breathing at the time. among those named, three republican senators, including trump ally, lindsey graham, who made trump calls to investigate claims of voter fraud in november of 2020. graham, back, then defending his actions. >> why is a senator from south carolina calling a secretary of state anyway? >> the future of the country hangs in the balance. >> he was not ultimately charged. e alex, overnight, lawyers fort mark meadows made it clear that he will not file an appeal to try to reverse the decision. nonetheless, he did also

separately ask for all proceedings to be halted until a final decision can be made. >> all, right julie tsirkin on capitol hill. thank you so much for, that my friend. joining me right now is cameron mccord, or reporter for the wall street journal. karen's latest article covers the georgia special grand jury report as well as the judge's ruling on mark meadows. welcome, cameron, let's go first to what impact this ruling on meadows case has on the other codefendants, especially donald trump. his lawyers are considering filing to move this case to federal court. is this the presidents that would lean in his filing? >> i think a consider -- meadows came in first, we had this hearing in which he presented a detailed case about how he was a chief of staff for the president. who is doing presidential tasks. he happened to make these calls

as -- in the judge did not buy it. the judge said, you are not acting as a government official at that time. therefore this is not a federal issue. it goes back to the fulton county court. the other people who are considering making this transfer are going to have a difficult legal road ahead. >> what about the unsealing of the special grand jury report? it was the basis for the page -- georgia election case. 39 people were recommended for criminal charges. among the 21 who escaped, were two former georgia senators as well as to south -- south carolina senator, lindsey graham. lindsey graham responded to reporters. let's hear what he said. >> we cannot criminalize with senators doing their jobs when they have a constitutional requirement to fulfill. it would be irresponsible for me, and my opinion, of chairman of the committee, to not try

that. what i did was consistent with my job as being as united states senator, chairman of the judiciary committee. next election, if i have questions, i'll do the same thing. >> so what role are graham, loeffler, and perdue alleged to have played in the case against trump in georgia? is there any indication why they were not indicted? >> those are excellent questions that everybody is asking right now. the pressure they were part of this group of people who were pressuring georgia officials to look into alleged allegations of fraud in various ways. and why they weren't indicted is a great question that we fani willis can answer and she's not saying why. we are left with loeffler, perdue, and graham, they are left in this position of a special grand jury suggested

they be indicted but they're not. so they're in this limbo. we are in this political limbo, it's an odd place to be. normally we don't have a special grand juries. this is a unique thing. now their names are out there. we all know that they wanted them indicted. >> so, what about this? this potential cooperation? is it a reason the d.a. decided against indicting some of these 21 people? is there evidence that some of those who are indicted as well might flip and cooperate? >> i think that is another limbo period, where all the different 19 defendants are jockeying for a position. and there is going to be a point where people are going to flip. people are going to reach agreements with the prosecution and provide information. once that starts happening, obviously the prosecution's

goal is to have that go up the line. the defense argument is hey, we are all -- there is no grandson conspiracy. that's the legal war that is underway here. >> all, right in your article, david schaffer, kathy lee, him sean still, those are names we need to keep an eye on and what they're doing. in the meantime, as you, know prosecutors have until tuesday to submit a brief on why all 19 georgia defendants should be tried together. what can we expect in that? what is the judges attitude towards this whole idea been? >> the fulton county judge has been very specific on that. there is the argument of severance, which would be splitting the trials. that could happen. it is, as you can imagine, creating this logistical nightmare for -- if, for example, multiple groups were split into different trials, you are having the same trial over and

over again. we are talking months and months. now this is fulton county, disrupting downtown atlanta, massive security issues, jurors kept for months. when it is becoming a logistical nightmare that the judge is going to try to figure out. plus, there is the legality issues we. >> there is a lot to consider. cameron, thank you for joining. us we look forward to seeing you again. later on this, our we're going to talk more about the big names who escaped and indictment in georgia on the election interference case. why did they get a pass? i will speak with charles coleman, -- msnbc legal analyst and kristy greenberg, former federal prosecutor, about, this in so much more. in the meantime, we are back to the breaking news out of india, where president biden is preparing for day two of the g20 after a very busy for a state meeting world leaders. nbc,'s mike memoli, is joining us long distance. he is with the president in new delhi. mike, china was absent today. how are the countries reacted

to president xi jinping's decision not to attend? >> alex, it's interesting because when you talk to white house officials about, this on one hand they say they are disappointed. dealing with some of the complex economic challenges, all over the, world requires being able to work with not just our close allies but countries like china, who they call a strategic competitor. think of the big announcement we were just talking about in the last, hour that it was revolving around close partnerships with saudi arabia, mohammed bin salman, the crown prince there. somebody who has had a complicated relationship with president biden. today they were shaking hands after making progress on an important development. on the other, hand when you think about how president biden has framed his foreign policy about the importance of showing that democracies can work more effectively than autocratic governments like china. it is giving the president and his team an opportunity to say, we are here, we are showing up and we are proving that we are delivering while some other leaders are on the sidelines. this is exactly the point that

was made in a conversation i had here in new delhi with the new u.s. ambassador to india, eric garcetti. listen to part of that conversation. >> what does that mean for the success of the g20 summit here that while the president is coming you have president xi of china, president putin of china not attending this summit? i think it's very proud moment for the united states. a president is here. that speaks volumes, we are not disengaging from the world, we show up time and time again. this is a president who is traveling the world, a government that engages every single day. telling, folks this is not about geopolitics for us. this is about our values. >> and alice it's also vladimir putin of russia who did not attend the summit. he has worked trying to court some of the developing world. with the other countries that were here as well. there were presence here, even not at the presidential level, felt in the final communiqué issue today. one of the other headlines, today alex, there was a more

watered down, softer criticism of russia over its war in ukraine and what we saw in the g20 statement last year. >> interesting, time is marching on on that. one that is. richard thank you mike for that. retail politics in iowa. as, is anyone buying what gop candidates are selling, we're back in 60 seconds. back in 60 seconds. hey david. connect with an advisor to create your personalized plan. let's find the right investments for your goals okay, great. j.p. morgan wealth management. (ella) fashion moves fast. setting trends is our business. okay, great. we need to scale with customer demand... ...in real time. (jen) so we partner with verizon to take our operations to the next level. (marquis) with a custom private 5g network. (ella) with verizon business, we get more control of production, efficiencies, and greater agility. (marquis) so our customers get what they want, when they want it. (jen) it's not just a network. it's enterprise intelligence.

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what we're seeing here. in ames iowa. at this legendary rival game between iowa state and university of iowa. these thousands of people here, obviously to see that game. by the end of the day, we expect six gop presidential hopefuls to be here, not necessarily missing what's going on inside. but really to take part in the politicking that has become essentially a sport in and of itself here in iowa. this is the first time since the iowa state fair that we are going to see both former president trump and florida governor ron desantis here on the ground in iowa at the same time. trump coming here to iowa with the wind in his back after receiving the endorsement of the south dakota governor kristi noem last night. trump taking that opportunity to accept that nomination, but also taking some swings at ronda santas. who right now currently enjoys over 30% of a lead over in the polls. this is coming as you had

mentioned the exclusive reporting, by kathryn, doyle about concerns that trump allies have about his presence and engagement here in the hawkeye state. which is around four months to, go until caucus day. his allies are concerned that his presence here in the state it is not strong enough, he has not come here and engage with voters enough. this is, today it's going to be his seventh trip to iowa since launching his campaign, ten months ago. and that is compared to ten trips that he had made by this exact time back in 2016. so, the trump campaign for their, part their vehemently denying these concerns exist. they're arguing's campaign time, former president has not been able to -- the presence here, for the last two runs in the white house, because of the legal proceeding surrounding criminal indictments, so the question now comes down to we know what it takes here to win the iowa caucus, it hasn't changed since

the caucus began. this is a state that want to hand to handshake, face to face contact and we have seen the former president time and time again, in polls showing he can upend that tradition. the question comes down to whether iowa republicans are willing to sort of give him a pass as it comes to their traditions that they uphold for the caucus. or whether they're going to really hold him to the same standard as they are those other gop candidates, alex. >> yes, absolutely. can i just say anecdotally and looking at the cardinal gold iowa state cyclones fans behind you. just like my usc trojan, as i am just saying, putting that out there. thank you very much. a controversial handshake the g20 was all about oil? >> l twice. and this pro with the perfect slice. and if we profer it, we know america will too. what about spaniards? and i guess spain. mlb chooses t-mobile for business for 5g solutions...

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most powerful to hit the area, more than a century. right now, search and rescue teams are searching for survivors in both densely populated areas as well as mountainous remote villages. they're in the atlas mountains. here is, more from sky news. it struck on a busy friday >> morocco's tourism capital, marrakech, buzzed with people. this is the worst earthquake the region has seen in years. it was felt as far as portugal. we >> were surprised by an intense vibration. everything in the house was moving. we don't know what happened. >> i was in my house, i saw people going outside, i heard a lot of, noise i thought it was rain. it was the sound of the earthquake. >> the damage was felt in the heritage site of the medina. the worst hit areas where the villages of the atlas mountains. >> efforts began to pull bodies out of the rubble. first, residents moved rocks

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and msnbc political analyst, currently watching this unfold in new delhi. we couldn't be further apart my friend, we're at opposite ends of the planet. i'm here in l.a., but anyway it's good to see long distance there. give me a sense peter, which countries were not on board with the condemnation of russia? in which would the u.s. be satisfied with the declaration? >> we'll start of course the fact that russia itself is a member of the g20. vladimir putin is not here, he chose to skip this summit, as he did last years. not exactly welcome, not exactly eager to be with a lot of the other leaders here. but he did send a foreign minister. russia's to have a role in agreeing to whatever declaration the 20 members of the g20 are going to sign off on. and that, in that sense, clearly the final language to some extent that reality. the final language, it's not as strong as it was last year. condemning tory of russia's invasion of ukraine. it does reinforce the u.n.

resolutions, regarding the russian invasion. obviously, it does not take the same stance that ukrainians would have preferred, as it did last year. >> yes, let us talk about the president who is facing some backlash right now for his decision to participate in that meeting with saudi crown prince, mohammed bin salman. happening this afternoon, they shook hands, how is the white house justifying it to the white house? so the people? >> they didn't have a formal meeting with the crown prince. they didn't have formal meetings with any of the leaders here. president biden spent his day with the multilateral sessions with the leaders, like you see in the picture. jointly rather than having one-on-one meetings. but you are, right obviously, there is you no second guessing about his decision to shake ahmed. to agree with him on the economic order they're creating.

the americans position, is look, you know the saudis are an important ally. they have chosen to basically try and move on from tensions of the last years, in the middle of this rather remarkable negotiation, to try and bring the saudis together with the israelis, in open diplomatic relations for the first time. negotiations were successful, transforming the middle east. they are in a position right now where they are trying to make friends with the saudis, rather than enemies. that's what i think you're seeing right here. and in new delhi. >> so specifically though, peter, relative to saudi arabia. and mbs, how much is this about oil? >> well it's about oil, but it's also about saudis position in the region. right? israel, at the end of the trump administration made diplomatic relations with three of its arab neighbors. the only one that counts, the one that counts the most, anyway. it is saudi arabia. their custodian of the two mosques, that are still wholly in the islamic faith. they are one of the leaders, in

a way, of the city muslim world. a favor to recognize israel, establish normal relations. it would be a game-changer. that is why, in a lot of ways i see president biden focusing on them, and spending a lot of time wooing them towards this negotiation. doesn't mean they're gonna get, there it's a really daunting challenge they have. saudis would like some concessions, that the americans and israelis are reluctant to make. they're reluctant to make concessions that they may be reluctant to make. it's not necessarily going to, happen but it's a very big an ambitious project. that biden is embarking on. >> yes, let's take a look at the stateside, here there are several new developments in the presidential quest for a second term, biden, a super pac affiliate is spending $13 million on -- hearing and six major battleground states. and then you have california governor, gavin newsom officially shutting down any speculation he will challenge the president for the nomination, happening during an exclusive interview with nbc

meets the press. let's take a listen to that. >> i think the vice is naturally the one lined up. the deadlines are quickly coming to pass. i think we need to move past this notion, he's not going to run president biden is going to run. looking forward to getting reelected. >> so, the ad libs, gavin newsom throwing full support behind president biden. how significant is all of this for the biden campaign? >> well, it's an important signal, obviously there is a lot of unrest in the party right now. a lot of conservation, due to polls showing president biden's approval ratings are not moving. stuck in the low 40s. in fact, they are head to head matchups with donald trump. predecessor and challenger. in the very best, you know, statistical tie that's not where the democrats want to be. but basically, you know as gavin newsom just said, there's a realization among democrats, if they cannot convince the president not to run, there is no reason that they can, they

need to rally behind him. they need to do what they can to strengthen, him rather than question him. do what they can to strengthen his position. but it's a real challenge right, now because right now we see the electorate very polarized. very stuck where they are. no one is moving right now. and the white house is looking ahead, basically a long slog ahead, to 2024. >> okay, thank you for the chat, safe travels my friend. we will see you next weekend. coming up next, new insight into who didn't get indicted in georgia. giora. coarse hair thin skin when i'm shaving down there not just any razor will do venus for pubic hair and skin with a patented irritation defense bar for a smooth shave with blades that barely touch skin age is just a number, and mine's unlisted. try boost® high protein with 20 grams of protein for muscle health versus 16 grams in ensure® high protein. boost® high protein. now available in cinnabon® bakery-inspired flavor. learn more at boost.com/tv

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lindsey graham to news he escaped indictment in georgia election interference case. report unsealed yesterday named the republican along with 20 others, to the fulton county grand jury recommended charging, but who were ultimately not indicted. here is senator graham yesterday. >> i called around different states including georgia. as a sitting united states senator chairman and judiciary committee. i eventually certified the election in all states. including georgia. i did not find any evidence of mass voter fraud, but i did have concerns about the mail-in ballot systems. we cannot criminalize senators doing their job, when they have a constitutional requirement to fulfill. we are opening up pandora's box here. >> two former republican

senators, kelly loeffler and david perdue, both from georgia also escaped charges as did michael flynn, donald trump's former national security adviser, and prominent trump aligned lawyers, among others. joining me now, charles coleman former brooklyn new york prosecutor, i mustn't legal community analyst, and former federal prosecutor, and deputy chief of the southern district of new york criminal division. welcome to you both, ladies first year christy. what does this report tell you about how fani willis whittled down who got indicted? and why would she have decided not to take the grand jury's recommendation, to charge lindsey graham, or epstein for example? >> when i think this grand jury report tells you is fani willis was not acting based on political motivation here. if she were, she would have charged the three republican senators that the grand jury recommended she charged. instead, she merely exercised

restraint here. an independent judgment. she looks at the proposed recommendations for the grand jury, and then she assessed based on the evidence known to, her what she understood of the possible defenses. and she came up with her own charges in her own defendants. so i think it is a good report. as for why she would have charged, certainly, i think it's interesting if you look at the votes with respect to senators graham, purdue. senator graham there were 13 votes in favor of charging him, with the national effort to overturn the 2020 election. but there were also seven nose, and one abstain. similar numbers for the other two senators. when you have mixed votes like that, from the grand jury. it would certainly give any prosecutor some pause, and make them really look as to whether or not those are charges you want to bring against political officials, where those charges

are going to be really scrutinized. >> a very valid assessment there, thank you. charles, should these 21 be relieved? or could they still face charges in georgia, or elsewhere? or could it be that they know they are safe because they are cooperating with prosecutors? well, i do think it is difficult to assume either of those things might be true. i can tell you that, more likely than not, as far as fulton county, they will likely feel like they are in the clear. it is possible to jack smith, the special counsel's office and the doj have been taking a look at this from the very outset, if not before. the point of fani willis, given what we know from the january six commission what was turned over to the federal government. this is not, necessarily, going to be news to them, as well. in terms of the federal level and being in trouble there. at this, point if they are cooperating and they have not necessarily heard from the doj than they may be in the clear

as far as fulton county is concerned, more likely than not, this is an indication that they do not have charges pending as it relates to the current r.i.c.o. statute. again, it is difficult to assume. in some cases there may be some cooperation. it is safe to say that as far as fulton county concerned, they did not have to further the prosecution. >> good to know on that front. christine, donald trump posted on truth social that the release of the special grand jury report undermines the credibility of the findings and shows that they wanted to indict anybody who happen to be breathing at the time. how unique is it that, yes, we have actually learned the names of those who are considered her indictment but not. is it in the public's interest to know that information? >> well, usually when the grand jury votes to indict or not indict those decisions are subject to secrecy. however, there are lawsuits to

try to get that information. the information the defendants in this case and many of whom wanted to have -- it is not surprising that it is been released. the actual report itself does not go into the reasoning of the grand jury as to why they recommend charges against certain individuals and not others. it's simply states here the charges they considered. here was the vote. the one area that is very interesting that was substantive in that special report was that the grand jury made a finding. a unanimous vote. there was widespread election fraud. they also say that there was evidence presented on both sides from poll workers and investigators in experts as well as those who believe the election was stolen. the grand jury came to the unanimous vote that there was no election fraud. i thought that was, in terms of substance, and incredibly

damning findings by the special grand jury. >> absolutely. the unanimity on that, for sure. charles, what about judge scott mcafee? you know that he still weighing the prosecution's request to try all 19 codefendants together on october 23rd. that is the trial that that has been set for codefendant, sydney powell and kenneth chesebro. was yesterday's ruling denying mark meadows request to federal court factor into mcafee's decision? >> not necessarily. i do think, if you listen to mcafee as he announces his decision regarding to the motions to sever, with chesebro and powell, i think you have some insight into what he is thinking about regarding the viability of fani willis's desire to try all 19 defendants at one. it is important to remember that because a speedy trial what the law dictates, those two individuals in particular, meaning chesebro and powell, meaning those trials will be moved forward on around that october day that they received

requests for. that is what the law requires. that is what the law provides for. fani willis in her office is going to be ready to go. however, i do suspect that not only with respect to the judge but also phony willis's office overall, there is going to be something of a recalibration in terms of how to deal with the remaining 17 defendants. whether they are going to proceed in october. i imagine what we will ultimately see, alex, is going to be these defendants grouped in tried in clusters. that is what is often the case in regard cases that involve a large number of defendants. what will be most practical for the cases of this nature. despite what fani willis initially said at the press conference tonight, wanting to try all 19, it's just simply not practical. i think you get a sense of that from the judge at the hearing. trust and believe that powell in chesebro are going to be moving forward. >> let me ask you both the last question asked you answered quickly. the prosecution says it is going to present 150 witnesses

and unexpected for month-long trial. does that mean donald trump will be sitting in the courtroom and potentially off of the campaign trail for a full third of the year? kristie, you first. >> she said that there were 150 witnesses. the special grand jury report indicated that they heard from 75. it is unclear whether or not she actually is going to call 150. if she expects, for example, custodians of records and others may be a part of that. if the defense is not going to agree. to it it is hard to say how long that this will actually go. certainly as long as there is a trial, donald trump is required to be. there i do not think we will see a trial until sometime in the spring or summer, given the fact that he is unlikely to be part of this october trial date. >> do you concur with a, charles? >> generally speaking with one caveat. i do think the, as it contains to the paris custodial winds,

is those who are handling chain or custody in those other things, there could be requests from donald trump's attorneys that he doesn't have to appear in trial on those dates. the trial judge may or may not granted. his defense team may or may not be in favor of. it it is not going to be good for the jury to go look at that empty chair word on trump should be sitting. it will be interesting. it could be something that they asked the court for. under the circumstances, it is possible the judge may allow for certain witnesses. >> donald trump will somehow managed to work it into his agreement campaign, let's put it that way. charles and kristie, is good to see you both. thank you much. for 100 officers, one prison escapee, why police say it is just a matter of time before the convict is caught. r of time before the convict is caught. the convict is caught. ahhhh! [sniffs] what is — wow! baby: daddy. sinex. breathe. ahhhhhh! (ella) fashion moves fast.

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before we get to your book, this joint statement from presidential library says, among other things, here is the quote. democracy hold us together. civility and respect in political discourse, whether in an election year or otherwise, are essential. do you interpret this as a warning about a greater threat to democracy? who do you think that this is aimed at? >> and i wonder. i think it is pretty clear that we are heading into an election where the risk of returning to donald trump's evidently wheel in high. the consequences of a trump election, i think, would be incredibly consequential for our democracy, our society, and for all of those values that were just expressed in that statement. and is not explicit. it does not take much to read in between the lines. >> speaking of lines, looking at your book here, does this tie into the conclusions that

you made? how did you come up with the title? how does president biden fit into the struggle for america's future? >> we live in this era where they're -- our society, our culture, has a very negative attitude towards politics. two presidents who came before joe biden, both barack obama and donald trump, people who came from outside of the system and who expressed disdain for the traditional practice of politics. joe biden is someone who you can't mistake for anything other than a politician. it is what his career has been. it is his expertise he knows counting in a horse trading in dealmaking. he believes in his core in the persuading of people on the other side. all of the things have on so deeply out of fashion. there were moments in the first couple of years in his presidency where he seem like the only person in america who believed in those values.

>> i am curious the kind of level, i guess, of access you had with president biden in the white house. how did you get that? >> first of all, there has been a lot of books written about donald trump. donald trump is a character, sensationalist ick. joe biden has been around forever. one of the things that perplexed me about his presidency was the way in which the media does not look at him with any level of -- or, it tunes in chains out of the joe biden story but he is never the object of fascination with donald trump's. trump is over there sucking attention away from whatever the administration is doing. i just kept showing up early and often asking good faith questions and paying attention to the actual policy developments in the administration. one of the things that people

don't really understand about the biden administration is how each of these separate accomplishments heads up into a much bigger agenda. a really significant new direction in the way that our government interact with the economy. >> well, they will understand it if they read the book. speaking of the, the new york times article gave your book credit for best explaining the shift in economic policy under biden. saying that democrats concluded that they have not gone far enough to undo the revolution of the ronald reagan started in the 19 80s. a revolution that sparked the huge rise in inequality. has biden really accomplish this? >> biden has not done anything to turn back economic inequality over the long run. i think that one of mostly avigan accomplishments of the early covid relief bills, including the emergency rescue plan, was see significantly cut childhood property.

unfortunately let the foreground expire. what the biden administration has done is come up with a series of investments that are going to supercharge sectors of the american economy. not just to restore american manufacturing but to protect american interests and also steer the economy in a more progressive direction. one of the things that people do not appreciate is that the transition to alternative energy is happening so much faster than anybody anticipated. that is largely due to this huge shove that the inflation reduction act, terrible name by the way, gave to the alternative energy industry, electric vehicle industry. better charge industries, at center it's that around. it is going to shape american life or a generation >> it is. this is a book that really does a deep dive into joe biden. it is really compelling reading. thank you so much for joining me on this. so, inside joe biden's white

house and the struggle for america's future. franklin for, thank you so much for joining. me i'm gonna see you again from l.a. at two pm eastern. my friend, yasmin vossoughian, continues our coverage right now. right now. hey everybody, good afternoon to you. i am yasmin vossoughian. tragedy in morocco. a massive earthquake has killed more than 1000 people. so that just total may rise even higher as rescue workers dig through the rubble in a desperate search for survivors. >> we are on an intrepid tour. we went to bed, and then we didn't go to bed. the room started shaking. yes, the room started shaking. there was no other way. we were just going back with him for. lawrence everything was moving. pitchers started moving. we just