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>> and as she always does, saying to her. >> and as fate would have it. on this september 11th 2023. just after six pm tonight, the most extraordinary rainbow appeared over our new york city. our hearts are all with those who are affected by the attacks on that tragic day tonight. we are so sorry for your loss. and as always, we are amazed by your strength. on that note, i wish you all the very good night. from all of our colleagues across the networks of nbc news, thanks for staying up late with me. we'll see you again tomorrow. n tomorrow >> thanks for joining us this. how are happy to have you here with. us four years ago, 2019, late
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august. it was a sunny, day and i stay tibia side at lunchtime. lots of people were. in germany, central berlin, there is a nice park, a nice big urban park. quite near the german version of the white house. it is near the federal chancellery, where the german chancellor lives and has office. the park is called the garden park. it is very fancy, it is lovely. a lot of, trees anti buskers, sculpture. there is a big children's playground. it's big, about 17 acres. right in the heart of central berlin. four years ago, on august 23rd, 2019, a man road into the park on this black mountain bike. the man had long walk, sort of a neat beard. he was wearing rainbands and a gray hoodie. he had a backpack on. he cycled over by the swing set
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in the park. he reached into his backpack, pulled out a glock 26. which is a nine millimeter pistol. it had a silencer screwed on to the end of the model. from his mountain bike, he then used that gun to shoot a man. who was walking in the park. shot the man in the back, the man fell to the ground. the man on the bike then got off his bike, walk over to the man who he had just shot, was crumpled on the ground. that's the man lay there on the ground, in the park, the man from the bike shot him two more times, one, two, both shots into the man said. she very professional hitman kind of hit. right next to the swing set in that park. right at midday, on a sunny friday in august, in a packed city park, in front of all of the kids at the playground. shot the guy wants the, back he fell, got off his bike, sean
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twice in the head. just down the block from the german chancellor's office. with his target laying dead on the ground, shot three times, the man with the gun got back on the black mountain bike and rode away. here is how the wall street journal described what he did next. quote, with his target lying dead near the children's playground. these hasn't hopped on his bike and peddled away. he stopped at the nearby river, changed out of his clothes and peeled off a wig, revealing a baltic. he held his disguise and bicycle, and pistol, and silencer into the water. into the river. then, he shaved off part of his beard with an electric razor. they're on the side of the river he did that. so he has been wearing a wig, he's got a change of clothes with him, has the electric razor with him to change the look of his beard.
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takes off the week, changes his clothes, uses the razor. then puts the gun and silencer and the bike in the river. okay but, way that is his transportation. once he threw the bike in the river, how will he hit moving? for the plan, he had also snatched and electric scooter nearby on the riverbank. and it was while he was trying to get away, in this new discuss, with the trimmed beard on the scooter, that the police actually were able to get him. the unprofessional part of this otherwise very professional hit, is that apparently the guy did not notice that to people, to passersby had seen him in this part of this operation. seeing him take up the, way through the gun and the bike and discuss. saw him change of clothes. most people thought that was weird enough that even though they had not witnessed a shooting, they called police about this bizarre behavior by
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the riverbank. and that is how police got him. but then once police had him in custody, there started a saga. because they had no idea who he was. this guy had no idea. all he would tell them over and over again, wasn't obviously. kept saying he was just a tourist, had nothing to do with any of the. the wall street journal describes how finally after two years, investigators were able to piece together his identity. and what brought him to that park on that sunny friday in august. we're able to piece together his identity, thanks to his russian special forces tattoos. thanks to his fake passport. thanks to investigators tracing his movements. ultimately in court, german prosecutors made their case that this guy, the guy on the mountain bike, was fsb. fsb, what used to be the kgb.
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russian security services. specifically making the case that he was in the part of the fsb that sends trained russian government hitmen over the world to other countries. to carry out assassinations on orders from the kremlin. in court they presented a video of this guy killing someone else. the exact same way. riding up to a guy on a bike, shooting the guy in the back and in the head. a different killing from years earlier. the german court ultimately ruled in 2021, that the bicycle riding hitman had committed that murder. in the park in berlin, the court ruled that the murder had been commissioned and had been ordered by the russian government. the victim in this case, in the park in berlin, was a chechnya man who had applied for asylum in germany. saying he needed to leave the former soviet sphere because
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the russians security services had made multiple attempts on his life. he feared for his life. so he needed asylum in germany. turns out, he was right about the russian government wanting to assassinate him. and that being a real risk. what he was wrong about, was the idea that germany, being in germany could protect him from that. and whether or not you remember this exact broad daylight kids playground swing set kremlin assassination in a western capital in 2019. you probably remember some of the other things like this. they start to blend together after there's been a bunch of them. the year before, a german park mountain bike hitman, there was the assassination attempt, the nerve agent assassination attempt by russian agents in salisbury england. the russian agents in that one
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missed killing their target and his daughter. but they did kill a random british citizen in the wrong place at the wrong time. before that, it was the radioactive polonium poison plot. a fatal those in the teapot in london. you might remember in june, this summer, the new york times reported on a plot by russian agents to try to assassinate a guy in the united states. in miami. that plot was disrupted. but the justice department explicitly named the russian government as directing that operation. and the biden administration kicked out russian diplomats from the country in retaliation. there is so many of these things that they blended together. apparently they have a whole section of the espy for sending russian government hitmen to countries around the world to korea kremlin ordered assassinations. because a man in many accomplishments of the putin government in russia, one of the things that you all the
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time is send professional hitmen all over the world to assassinate people in broad daylight. in city parks, streets, department stores and parking lots. and then, when their hitman get caught, the russian government takes hostages. they take foreign hostages in russia. which is why the 2019 swing set assassination in berlin is back in the news today. back in the pages of the wall street journal today. because the latest american hostage, the latest innocent american civilian hostage taking by the russian government is a wall street journal reporter. a young man, 31 years old. his name is evan gershkovich. as the wall street journal puts in his headline now, quote, putin wants his hitman back. meaning, the kremlin is now signaling that if the united states wants to ever get evident gershkovich, if the united states wants to get this innocent american reporter
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hostage out of russia, where maybe some other western hostages that they're holding. maybe u.s. marine veteran paul whelan. if the u.s. wants those people back, the kremlin is now signaling that they want some kind of trade that will give them back the swing set mountain bike assassin from berlin. they want their russian special forces fsb hitman out of prison in germany. not because he did not assassinate a guy in broad daylight in a public park in germany, but because they asked him to do it. he was just doing his job for the russian government. and now they would like him back. so they will take american hostages to get him back. it's not even like dealing with a country, it's like dealing with a cartel drug. some statistic low level mob boss. this is how they do things. we've got the berlin assassin from 2019 back in the news
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right now. because maybe russia wants to trade him for the american reporter that they took hostage in march. somebody ending up with cement shoes here or swimming with the fishes? i was checking each other for switchblades in our boots? this is international relations. this is diplomacy, this is how we do it? we also have viktor bout back in the news. at the same time, the russian international gun runner who is known internationally for his mustache and his nickname, the merchant of death. to get him back, russia took wnba star brittney griner hostage. february of last year, held britney griner imprisoned in russia for ten months. releasing her in december for the exchange of viktor bout being let out a federal prison in the united states and shipped back to russia. now that they're hostage maneuver with the young
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american woman, that american athlete. now that it worked to spring viktor bout from prison, victor bout is now going to go into politics in russia. we learned this weekend in the new york times that viktor bout will be a real star in russian politics, making him a real asset to putin's dictatorship. the rogue terrorist state group. that's the kind of hero needs. it is just like an acute toxicity. . there are a lot of bad governments in the world, lots of bad leaders. lots of bad governments. this is like the difference between a scratch and a stabbing. what putin is doing is something special. something acutely deliberately talk. it's not a stomach ache, it's food poisoning.
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in russia, ten days ago, putin's government decided to declared the winner of the nobel peace prize, dimitri neuro talk, the winner of the nobel peace prize in 2021. putin declared him a foreign agent. making it illegal for anyone to work with him in russia. making it a crime to work with him. what is foreign agent about him? what's so evil and criminal about him? he's a newspaper editor. this newspaper has been chased out of russia under threat of imprisonment. or worse. but why wouldn't he? why would a nobel peace prize stop him as putin is on a doctor evil high at the moment. pumped after what appears to be the plane crash assassination of the warlord he cultivated to force russian prisoners to fight against their will in ukraine. and then who at the time of his death, was under federal indictment in the united states for his alleged role in helping
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carry out the kremlin's attack on our 2016 presidential election. to mess with american democracy and try to make americans hate and distrust each other more than we already do. and not incidentally to get a particularly pro putin republican candidate in the u.s. white house. he is on a high from that assassination, that apparently assassination. today putin is preparing to host the leader of a neighboring country who is going to start supplying russia with a whole new stream of weapons and munitions to use against the people of ukraine. the armoured train with pyongyang. putin hosting in russia, the autocratic cult dictator of nuclear arms north korea. because the north korean dictator is the kind of guy who frankly really speaks his language these days. i really, what better ally could you look for? when you are looking to scale up the largest land war in europe since hitler started invading his numbers and kicked off world war ii 84 years ago.
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who would make you better ally when you're looking to scale up the terror against the civilian population in your unprovoked invasion of a neighboring sovereign democratic state you invaded punish their grave crime of existing. what better alliance could you imagine assembling to scale up that war? and to take sides together against the country putin most hates in the whole world. which of course is this. the united states. that is kind of the smell of things in russia right now. that is the vibe from that particular government. from that particular leader. and so, what is elon musk doing with them? >> the walter isaacson, much hyped biography of elon musk that comes out tomorrow, includes a story about the ukrainian military planning to launch an attack on russian
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navy ships. report in crimea. and per mr. isaacson's account, elon musk personally took action to make sure the ukrainian military would not be able to do that. mr. musk making sure that the ukrainian military could not use his starlink satellite internet network. which is what ukraine uses for connectivity on the battlefield to advance the operation. you have personally involved, to ensure ukraine had its hands tied in battle. >> that was reported in mr. isaacson's biography, first reported by the economist in october. and then last month in the new yorker reporter ronan farrell reported more detail about how elon musk has been stopping ukrainian forces from using the crucial supply line. i'm using starlink in kherson and appalachia and kharkiv and onions. and luhansk. musk has been geofencing the
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places in ukraine. fence in those places off from the cell unsettling network. deliberately to hamstring ukraine's military. deliberately to stop ukraine defending its territory in the war against russia after russia invaded them. so not to get too simple here, but mr. musk is american. he's an american citizen. and it is the explicit out loud, not at all hidden, totally overt, totally emphatic policy of the united states government, to support ukraine in its war against russia. after russia invaded them. we provide ukraine our ally, lots of military aid and training and intelligence and all sorts of other assistance. they are our ally in the war. but, there is one american private citizen who is
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intervening to try to stop ukraine from winning the war. to stop from defending itself against this russian invasion. trying to stop it and in fact stopping it. by turning their communication lines on and off that will as he sees fit. or is somebody sees fit. because here is the crucial thing, in mr. isaacson's new book and in mr. ferrell's reporting for the new yorker, the thing that stands out here is this, here is the quote from walter assistance book about mr. musk intervening in the war. to stop ukraine from its attack on russian ships. when mr. musk made the decision quote, he had just spoken to the russian ambassador. . just spoke to the russian ambassador and then made the decision to cut ukraine's supply lines, so that they could not fight russia. >> here is how most their pharaoh describes musk's own description of who he was talking to.
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when the pentagon intervened to fix the problem, tried to get him to stop messing with ukraine's supply lines. tried to get him to stop messing with ukraine's ability to fight off the russian military. this is from the new yorker. to the dismay pentagon officials, mr. musk volunteered that he had spoken with putin personally. in other individual telling me, meaning towed feral that musk maintained the assertion that he had spoken with putin in the weeks before he tweeted his pro russia peace plan. musk saying that his consultations with the kremlin were regular. musk later denied having spoken with putin about ukraine. on the phone, mosques and he was looking at his laptop and could see the entire war unfolding through a map of starlink activity. this was three minutes before he said, i have had this great conversation with putin, a senior defense official told me. and we were like oh dear, this
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is not good. >> it is important that this one middle aged, red pill, right wing billionaire has taken one of the world's major social networks and turning into a fire hose of totally toxic anti-semitic and pro not see content. now publicly blaming the jews for the financial woes of his company while personally using his power and public profile to boost invalidate self-declared antisemites and white nationalists. who are now the loudest influences on the network. that is an important thing in the world. it also seems important that the u.s. space program in its infinite wisdom decided to make itself dependent on this guy for its important going work. a space becomes more and more important to make a national security.
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but given the role of russia in the world today, given who they are and how they are conducting themselves these days, given the place russia has in relation to america's place in the world today, how is it possible it is the russian government reportedly advising this one american private citizen? advising him about turning on and turning off the single most crucial supply line for the military in the country rushes fighting. the country russia has invaded. the country rushes invaded that is our ally. this is an american citizen reportedly taking advice from the russian government about how to make sure america's ally loses the war against russia how is this happening and how is it possible united states government is a bystander here
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on this sunny day. >> joining us now is pulitzer prize-winning journalist my friend ronan farrow. mr. perez published on the subject, called elon musk's shadow rule. i appreciate. >> thanks for having me. let me see if i've characterize your reporting correctly. report for the economist. some of the people. what i see is sort of the same story that i characterize your reporting accurately in this. you see in the way i presented? respect you give viewers the timeline of everyone who contributed to our understanding. so the outages. the ukrainian front lines. ukrainian soldiers on the
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ground. as they tended to advance these cripple areas. we russia was attempting to patrol and lose the ability for commanders to communicate on the frontlines with troops. there are varying opinions about how that contributed to potential loss of life, but everyone around us seems to agree that what happened as you rendered it, a grievous consequence for people on the ground. >> want to talk about mr. musk's communications with the russian government. there's nothing illegal about a citizen talking to a foreign government. to conduct their own foreign policy to the state of u.s. foreign policy. with everyone in those bounds.
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see mr. musk post-pro russian propaganda after these. you conduct that communication. mr. isaacson in time for musk's decision to cut off the crucial communications assets for the military. what do you understand about his communication. ? with russia. >> the time of straightforward here and we have abundant evidence about it. you almost often leads to identify problems in the world and swoop in and try to solve them. there is a lot about side to that. nasa's reliance on him as an antidote to a situation where we literally had no way to launch american astronauts into space. a lot of the russians launch for us. so there are positives to. however, what we saw on the ukraine case was almost swoop in, was tweeting with officials, saying starlink is on the way. then over the ensuing months, he clocked the price tag of
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this. there was a pragmatic concern. and that appears to have been an ideological shift. i conferences and in other settings, and as you say eventually on twitter, he started for instance putting a public piece plans that according to what the russians wanted. we referendums. i mean the areas around ukraine's borders. we see all of this public facing. and then we have the facts for multiple people now that he was in many conversations with russia officials. and with my put him self. that does seem to be the case. unnamed officials saying i would point out, there are also on the record people saying that. very respected, on the record
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in this piece talking about the conversation you mentioned your mom was watching that map and said i talked about may put. not enough on the time, not about an unrelated thing. clearly implying about this timeframe. >> the other thing that is honoring about the section of the reporting is just the idea of what mr. marc describes. mr. musk said he was looking at his laptop and could see quote the entire war unfold through a map of starlight activity. so the if you've anybody in the, world i don't care what nationality. saying direct conversations with vladimir putin. talking to the russian government. senior officials in the russian government. simultaneously has access to information. unfolding in what the ukraine government is doing.
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what the units are doing all over the activism. that's a potential thing just conduit. in terms of the conduct of the war. that is the biggest intelligence work you can match in terms of whether ukraine will win this thing. >> needless to say rachel this is of grave concern to ukrainians and american defense officials watching the conflict and trying to advance the region. regardless of the legal lines, is a unique phenomenon. does have power of state now. he goes on diplomatic, missions poses awkward handshake photos with foreign officials that include chinese officials uso seats with. treating him like an elected official. how is unavoidable. there's a lot of good he does.
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you see right baby. as you mentioned, the radicalism displayed on twitter. delivering water for new views that he did not espouse previously. very rapidly, an individual was buffeted by headwinds of incentives around his business. that are not always aligned with american interests. for instance, half of tesla vehicles are produced in shanghai factories. and he has to be in diplomatic conversations with beijing. and he is a fairly transparent guy in some ways. it's not clear that all of his statements around this have been accurate. like the putin comments. however, he talks about it a lot. goes in interviews with the financial times and comes and says, i've talked to the chinese. they are mad about me giving inner access in ukraine. because remember, chinese have backed russians in this conflict. they are fearful that free
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technology become and given to their own people. so he has dealt with pull back because of his unique geopolitical position. and that does underscore how dangerous it is to concentrate all of this power in the hands of. private billionaires with their own interests. >> and it raises the questions if he's been pressured antibodies by the russians. what's the relationship with the u.s. government to him? particularly when he is conducting effectively foreign policy against the interest. pulitzer prize-winning journalist one apparel, thank you for this, reporting thank you talking with us about, it's good to see. >> thanks for all you do. rachel's run, and much more ahead here tonight, stay with us. us get help reaching your goals with j.p. morgan wealth plan, a digital money coach in the chase mobile® app. use it to set and track your goals, big and small... and see how changes you make today... could help put them within reach.
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gerrymandering projects. ray freeman. in they look at political maps around the country. district lines for congress and state legislature. they look at the maps for how well the map creates competitive elections. whether they give one side an unfair advantage over the other. they look at the maps for fairness, and then give them a
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letter grade like the grade you get in school. the great state of wisconsin, where districts were juron by the republican legislature, the state house maps get an f. same for the wisconsin state senate maps. those also get an f. for failure. the failure for wisconsin democracy in those maps, translates into a win for wisconsin republicans. a bottom line even one way more people in wisconsin vote for democrats, republicans win most of the seats anyway. it is a nice trick. wisconsin voters appear to be about fed up with us. consider what happened this year when they voted for a new state supreme court justice. liberal candidate janet told voters that the wisconsin maps are all. she called the maps rigged, saying that they do not reflect the people in the state. voters heard the message and picked janet by a margin of 11 points. a resounding margin. her victory creating a liberal
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majority on the wisconsin supreme court for the first time in 15 years. with a huge win. >> and so, wisconsin republicans freaked out. before she hears a single case on the supreme court, republicans are threatening to impeach or. where they would need a majority vote in the house to impeach or. they have that. they would need a two thirds majority in the senate to remove her, a two thirds majority which they also have. wisconsin democrats are now launching a 4 million dollar ad campaign, to elect wisconsin voters, formula campaign to lure voters to with the republicans are doing. to what the plan is for this new justice that the voters in the state elected by such a resounding margin. the chair of the democratic party told the national press this week that the longer they push this forward, the more political price we want to build but the legislature. and the gop machinery. this could become a fireball
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that eats them up through 2024. joining us is the chair of the wisconsin democratic party. mr. wood, quarter good to see you. thanks for being. >> thank you rachel. >> even if you don't know anything about wisconsin, politics you think shocking from the outside is the size of her victory in the statewide election. the immediate move to remove her anyways. even before she's done anything as a judge. how is this being viewed inside the state? >> there is no more fundamental american values and the freedom to choose our own leaders. so one wisconsinites find out that a group of politicians, led by the republican speaker of our state assembly is threatening to overturn the last election, just to lock in their own power and prevent the public from choosing who needs the state, they are outraged. we have been flooded with calls, people donate left to right. more critical, calling
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republicans in the state legislature to tell them not to do this. not to cross the line and throw out a race. nine votes that took place a few months ago. it is shocking. this is a moment where everyone needs to weigh in. to stop the gop from essentially undermining the entire system of democracy in our state. and creating a precedent that could spread. >> as i mentioned, the republicans do on paper have the votes to do this. certainly have a majority in the house and house to thursday senate. basically exactly as far as i understand. so they have the votes to do it but with zero margin. if there are any defectors it will not work. are any republicans visibly getting nervous or wobbly about this? >> yes indeed. now that the public is finding out about this clock and the democratic republic of wisconsin set up a website at defend justice.com. if you go there, and we have
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our first republican state representative. who publicly came out and said that he would vote against impeachment. we have a few who've told constituents that they are against, though they have not said so publicly. we have a whole bunch saying nothing about the position. our sense is they realize they have a total disaster for them. successfully impeaching a court justice to lock in, there's never been a political impeachment. even if they did, that both voters would have the final say. they have a pretty good exit ramp. they can just say they looked at it, doesn't meet the standards of the constitution, they are dumb. they don't do that, there are going to have to answer the voters for the rest of their political lives. >> ben wikler, chair of wisconsin democratic party.
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fda approved an updated covid-19 booster shot. just in time for the uptick in covid cases we are experiencing. just in time for the rollout of the seasonal excellence, the shot you get for the flu or the rv vaccine they have not invincible over age 60. tomorrow, the expert advisory committee will meet tomorrow to give the final step on who qualifies for the new covid booster. but the fda has approved it as of tonight. that's gonna do it for us for now. now, it's time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. good evening, lawrence. >> good evening, rachel. and, you know, you know what i miss? i miss not knowing or caring about who was the democratic party chairman of the state of wisconsin. those were the days when you didn't have to know that stuff. you only knew who the