tv Jose Diaz- Balart Reports MSNBC September 12, 2023 8:00am-9:01am PDT
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good morning. it's 11:00 a.m. eastern, and 8:00 a.m. pacific. any moment on capitol hill mccarthy is expected to endorse an impeachment into hunter biden. police now say the killer is now armed and dangerous. oversees, rescuers in morocco use their barehands to help find those trapped from the earthquake. and then donald trump, how he is trying to get the judge presiding over his federal elections case removed. and then eastern mass is in the cone of uncertainty as we are tracking hurricane lee. we begin this hour with
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breaking news from capitol hill. any moment now house speaker kevin mccarthy is expected to hold a gaggle with reporters, and we will bring that to you when it begins. this comes as two sources confirm reports the speaker will formerly endorse an impeachment inquiry into president biden, and as the house returns today after a six week recess, lawmakers need to accomplish a lot before the end of the month. what more do we know about speaker mccarthy's plans to endorse an impeachment inquiry? >> well, we are standing out his office waiting for him to come and talk to bus this inflexion point, and the house is coming back to town with the government funding deadline, and the
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conversation of if there will be a shutdown is one i have been having with my colleagues, and this is meant to really allow mccarthy to placate some of the further right members of his conference that want to see the house majority use their gavel to be more aggressive on the impeachment front, and impeachment doesn't play especially in some of those biden one districts from 2020, and i am thinking about the majority makers, for example, in new york. my home district, for example, and people like mike lawler, and all of those folks would struggle if impeachment becomes the centerpiece of the house republican majority. nevertheless, that's what our sources are expected to do just shy of going for impeachment in full, and instead going for the impeachment inquiry. i think it's important to note that this is something where the speaker is boxed in here. it's not even clear that he has
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the votes to move forward with an impeachment inquiry, which is why it's possible he could come out and say he endorses this and drag his feet on the vote, and that's why we are playing the waiting game, because there are so many different pieces, and mccarthy has been in these tough positions before, and it's a reminder what it took for him to get this job in the first place, the lengthy speaker vote. a lot of different dynamics here all coming in the same thread as we play the waiting game for the speaker. >> as we wait and see what the speaker does say, and we're waiting for him to come out any minute now. there's a difference between impeachment and impeachment
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inquery. what is that? >> it's important to note, it's not clear that he has the votes to do the inquiry, and that's going to be an important thing as we look at it from a vote perspective, but the inquiry allows them to be more aggressive, and the republicans have the power of the gavel and with that comes the power of the subpoenas, and we have seen that exercised continuously as they look into things like the hunter biden probe, and now they will try and access things like bank records and they be able to be more aggressive in the information hunting, and this is something that democrats in our reporting are planning to highlight as well, that this is an inquiry being done into the idea of potential wrong doing. they have not found wrong doing
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on the part of president biden in any of the probes they have undertaken so far in the last eight months of having the majority, and people like comer and jordan have been leaders on that front but they have not found anything. in this instance, it's an impeachment inquiry where the negative is required to be proven. the goal is to muddy the waters go into 2024. we know former president trump has a ton of his own legal issues to worry about, both in fulton county and on the federal level with the two probes at the doj, and then the indictment in manhattan. now, this is republicans going on offense in an attempt to level the playing field from the investigations front in 2024. it's important that we look at it through that lens, too. >> this doesn't seem to be coming directly as a birth from the speaker's office.
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is it something that he was pressured into doing? >> yes, definitely. it's something we have heard from members of the conference for months now, that they want to move on impeachment from members of the cabinet, and mayorkas is somebody we have heard them talk about for the handling of the border. i think it's striking to see them, if they are moving forward on an impeachment inquiry, it's an escalation in the way they are trying to use the majority. for mccarthy, this is pressure he's getting from the far-right members of the conference, but also people like marjorie taylor greene who has had the interesting evolution of going from a flamethrower against mccarthy, and then also marched in lockstep with him in other various moments where the house
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freedom caucus, and this is a concession to people like marjorie taylor greene. yes, there are questions about if he has the votes to do this, but the other thing here is how this plays politically. impeachment is not something when you look at how republicans keep their majority in 2024, impeachment is not the thing that moderate republicans want to hang their hat on. this requires people in districts that are not overtly red to play defense and explain why instead of doing the things they rano like combating inflation, combating crime, and instead they are focussed on impeaching a president who they have not been able to find did anything wrong, so it's a search of a solution for republicans here, and that's something mccarthy will face pressure from the moderate side, and even if
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he is placating the right, he is still causing problems for himself. look, in my conversations with sources, this is yet another moment where mccarthy might be boxed in, and it's politically tough, and it's difficult from a math perspective because he has to have the majority, and this is a balancing act he has to do here. as we play the waiting game, he has been able to pull rabbits out of hats before, and we watched him do the debt ceiling, and then he had to strike a bipartisan deal with the white house, and democrats voting to avert a debt ceiling crisis over the summer, and that was a moment for mccarthy where his conservative flank is remembering they feel he sold them out, and that is at play right now, and all of these different dynamics where mccarthy is trying to find his way through the thorny maze, and
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now will he be able to do that on impeachment and government funding, which are coming to fruition at the same time. >> stay with us, if you would. we will bring you his remarks live when they occur, but i want to welcome to the conversation, florida congressman, debbie wasserman schultz who sits on the appropriation committee. always a pleasure to see you. first, your reaction to what seems to be now the speaker taking on this inquiry possibility? >> well, i think what has become very clear is mccarthy is the ceo of the holy owned subsidiary, and that has become the trump campaign. he finally succumbed to the pressure, not only from trump who desperately wanted an impeachment for president biden, so he could distract from the
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four indictments he's facing, and essentially the republicans are holding the speaker house -- hostage, and all he cares about is staying in power. they are going to hold the economy hostage and proceed with a maga extremist impeachment inquiry, and it remains to be seen if they will have enough votes, but it's outrageous when there's no -- they have been desperately trying to find some way to peg evidence on joe biden, and there's none, and even the so-called whistleblowers that testified to the committee and judiciary acknowledged joe biden had no involvement in his son's business proceedings at all. >> how do things get done in washington? >> well, this is just so
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incredibly frustrating and sad. we have 18 days that the house is in session until the fiscal year ends. that means if we don't make sure we pass the continuing resolution to keep the government functioning -- >> which is not a guarantee. >> which is not a guarantee. >> and crs are the way to go for members, and is that what we are looking at? >> i hope it's what we are looking at, because if the house doesn't vote for a cr that also includes vital disaster funding, like florida, that just got hit by idalia, and we have critical needs and we have to make sure we are continuing to help ukraine remain a sovereign nation and fight russia's onslaught, and continue to weaken the putin military regime. it's absolutely -- the maga extremist are going to hold all of this hostage in order to be able to continue to support donald trump and his outrageous
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extremist conduct that includes opposing abortion rights and allowing the state to control women's bodies, and additionally threat ying a government shutdown that will potentially have our military troops go without pay. >> this shutdown possibility is real. >> september 30th is when the fiscal year ends. the house has passed one appropriations bill. totally partisan, and only republicans voted for it. unlike the senate, which is working in a bipartisan way, they have passed multiple appropriations bills with overwhelming bipartisan support out of committee, and you will see them send us a bipartisan bill with a huge bipartisan vote. the contrast is stark. the -- even leader mcconnell made it clear we have to support
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for ukraine, and disaster relief funding, and pass a cr to make sure we keep the government open, and troops will continue to get paid. meanwhile, democrats under joe biden have been lowering prescription drug costs and trying to make sure we continue the huge boost our economy has taken from the job creation that we have been able to produce. >> congresswoman, i have been fortunate to speak with ali vitali, and i know you want to ask the congresswoman a question? >> i wonder as you talk to your colleagues, for example, from florida, matt gaetz, he is somebody we look at that could pull the motion to vacate, and do you think the chaos is the point for him? what is the political end game here to continuously endanger the speaker from his party? >> look, matt gaetz and others have clearly wanted to make sure that kevin mccarthy is as weak
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as possible, and that's why it took 15 rounds to make him speaker, and he wants to hold on to that power. when you are willing to put power over the people and politics over people, you get an outrageous impeachment inquiry, and you get the threat of a government shutdown, and risking our military troops, josé, who are quite possibly not going to get paid if the government shuts down, and social services and child care services being cut off. >> what is the end game for them? >> it's hard to see how this works out well for kevin mccarthy. we will get to the 30th. they have a defense appropriations bill they are trying to pass as a standalone bill this week, and they probably won't be able to do that. it's overwhelmingly likely that because of house republican extremism, starting an
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impeachment inquiry where there is no evidence whatsoever, only to protect donald trump, you know, that's what the maga extremist on the house side are all about right now that >> if the speaker comes out, i will ask for a quick pause from you, but i want to have this conversation because there are so many issues, and they are of vital importance to our country. one of them is the humanitarian crisis. by some estimates up to 5 million migrants may have entered the u.s. since 2021. and some of your colleagues are asking the biden administration to do more to help the newly arrived migrants. my question is why -- i think i know the answer, but why is it that you and congress, not you specifically, but you as a member of congress, cannot deal with immigration reform in a serious bipartisan and productive way? i mean, the last comprehensive
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immigration reform we saw was in 1986, congresswoman. >> right. >> what it is about congress that is not able to deal with something so vitally important? >> the bottom line is that we walked right up to the precipice of immigration reform multiple times in the 18 1/2 years i have been in congress, and republicans always, always cave on whether it is george w. bush that said he was committed to it, and he abandoned the ship because they care more about holding on to power than doing the right thing. our immigration system is broken and there are so many critical things we need to do to make sure people have a legal and regular pathway to citizenship, and make sure we can protect our dreamers and make sure we can have our farm workers come easily back and fort to the country they come from and come in to do the work that is that so necessary to help strengthen the backbone of our economy.
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meanwhile, ron desantis passed a law here in florida that is literally going to make it nearly impossible for us to get the vital workers that come in -- >> that is already enforced? >> yeah, he signed this bill into law that negates driver's license, and violates the full faith and credit that we commit to in our constitution that basically threatens people with arrest if they are driving someone around our state who is an undocumented immigrant. the fear, the culture of fear that maga extremist like ron desantis have created have not only made immigration reform impossible but made it so they are going to damage our economy and hurt people intentionally. the cruelty is the point, josé. >> the few sentences you just said, i mean, deal with the agricultural community, and get people to come out from the
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shadows, register, and be vetted, and be productive members of our economy, and of our society without fear, and why is that a partisan statement? >> because the maga extremist in the republican party have fed off of the success that they have had politically by fueling the fire. trump with his border wall, which the republicans put back in their budget. the razor wire that literally killed people off the coast of texas in the rio grande. these are people who are so embedded in their opposition and treating immigrants like they are america's enemy, instead of the backbone that helped to build the beauty of our country. >> my question, and i asked many people, and i would like your thoughts on it. 11 million people have been in this country for decades, and
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they are law-abiding since they have been here, and that group of people is now maybe looking at the newly arrived and hearing some calls for let's give them work authorization, and i am wondering, how does this crisis -- how does that -- how do you solve this when you have 11 million people who have been here, and they are seeing millions more arriving and the focus is on that? >> well, in a way -- we do it in a way where joe biden has done, where he adopted -- >> congresswoman, sorry to interrupt. here is speaker mccarthy. >> while we were gone in the last weeks, republicans have uncovered serious allegations into president biden's conduct. taken together, these allegations paint a picture of a culture of corruption. here's what we know so far. through our investigations we
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have found that president biden did lie to the american people about his own knowledge of his family's foreign business dealings. eyewitnesses have testified that the president joined on multiple phone calls and had multiple interactions, dinners, resulting in cars and millions of dollars into his son's business partners. we know that bank records show that nearly $20 million in payments were directed to the biden family members and associates through various shell companies. the treasury department alone has more than 150 transactions involving the biden family and other business associates that were flagged as suspicious activity by u.s. banks. even a trusted fbi informant has
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alleged a bribe to the biden family. biden used his official office to coordinate with hunter biden's business partners about hunter's role at bough raez ma, the ukrainian energy company. finally, despite the serious allegations, it appears that the president's family has been offered special treatment by biden's own administration, treatment that otherwise they would not have received if they were not related to the president. these are allegations that lead to abuse of power and corruption. they warrant further investigation by the house of representatives. that's why today i am directing our house committee to open a formal impeachment inquiry into
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president biden. this logical next step will give our committees the full power to gather all of the facts and answers for the american public. that's exactly what we want to know, the answers. i believe the president would want to answer these questions and allegations as well. this effort will be led by chairman james comer at the committee on oversight and in coordination with chairman jim jordan and jason smith. i do not make this decision lightly. regardless of your party or who you voted for, these facts should concern all americans. the american people deserve to know that the public offices are not for sale. and the federal government is not being used to cover up the actions of a politically associated family.
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i would encourage the president and his team to fully cooperate with this investigation in the interest of transparency. we are committed to getting the answers for the american public. nothing more, nothing less. we will go wherever the evidence takes us. thank you. >> so the speaker taking no questions, but i would like to continue having questions answered if possible with congresswoman debbie wasserman schultz and ali vitali. >> kevin mccarthy and house republicans, the extreme maga wing, and that's what this is about, they are succumbing to
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donald trump, and they are allowing donald trump to hold our economy hostage, and they are giving in to their extreme maga wing and they will potentially likely crash our economy, all while engaging in -- they are afraid. they know they have nothing there, that there has been no evidence. they are using this word inquiry. he just said they are going to move forward on impeachment. he's in the pocket of donald trump. >> what is the difference between an inquiry and impeachment? >> there is no difference. they have to vote whether or not to move forward to impeachment. that's what the vote is. when we voted on impeachment of donald trump, who we impeached twice because there was real credible evidence that came up publicly and was evident and obvious, not this hazy gray area that they are hanging their hat on. they have acknowledged there's no evidence against joe biden. they are going to vote -- the
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house has to vote to move forward on an impeachment, period. they are adding the word inquiry like they are doing investigations, and they have been investigating for months and months and have acknowledged they have no evidence, and they are giving into the extreme maga republicans, because kevin mccarthy knows one member can move to remove him, and he wants to hold on to power. >> what is the reaction to the statement? >> this is what we expected it to be. what is important, and as we are parsing through words if it's an impeachment or impeachment inquiry. the words mccarthy are important, and he said they were going to open an inquiry, and
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not that he was going to push for a vote on it. to open the inquiry, you have to have the vote and they don't have the votes right now, and that's what i overhear the congresswoman saying right now, and you have to vote to open the inquiry, and right now he is not saying they are going to vote, but he wants the chairmen to start the process of that. it's an important distinction because you can't move forward with it without voting on it, and i don't know if the speaker has the votes to open the impeachment inquiry, and we need to figure out if they are going to be voting to do this in the first place, because, yes, it's an attempt by mccarthy to placate people like matt gaetz and marjorie taylor greene, but without an actual vote on that it doesn't necessarily placate anybody, and this could lead mccarthy in a position where he is angering the right, because he doesn't have the vote, and
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then putting moderates in a difficult place because they are going to have to look at doing a vote on inquiry anyway. >> well, what action or possible action has the speaker been talking about? >> i have no idea. it's not an impeachment unless they bring it to the floor for a volt. impeachment inquiry, or impeachment, call it whatever you want, and those investigating found nothing whatsoever, and if he has come out and trying to say they are going to continue to investigate and call it an impeachment inquiry without the vote of the house, then they will have problem with matt gaetz and the maga extremists. he will not be able to get away with that. if they vote to proceed on an impeachment and call it an inquiry, it's a vote for
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impeachment, and that's because kevin mccarthy cares about holding on to power more than doing the right thing. >> the next question would be what is next for the speaker, right? he can announce anything he wants to, but what is the process that has to be followed in order for any of this to, i don't know, take steps to come to fruition? >> i think now the question is what does this mean to his chairman that has been opening an inquiry, which can't be opened until they vote to do an impeachment inquiry, and it's a chicken and egg situation here where they have to answer the question will they do the pressure campaign within their own party to get the votes to move on an impeachment inquiry, and as much as moderates are
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being quiet now, there are people like the congressman of colorado said there's an active lobbying campaign to try and get people to flip their vote to get the inquiry. that's one of the pieces that mccarthy can come out and say, but they are not able to do that unless they vote. that's a really important distinction. i know it seems silly to parse words, but because you direct somebody to open an inquiry doesn't mean you have done to vote to open the inquiry. >> congresswoman, you have been there, as you said, more than 15 years. is there any meat behind this? >> look at what he's saying. i heard nancy and others say they need an impeachment inquiry to get access to the president's bank records. they don't have the authority to do anything like that unless they vote -- unless they have a
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vote in the house to move forward with an impeachment. they can't just call a committee investigation an impeachment inquiry and get expanded access. they have to have a vote. they know they probably don't have the votes so he's trying to either play games with his maga extremist to hold on to a little more time, but i think he will run into a buzzsaw of maga extremist. >> joining us now is founder of punchbowl news and msnbc contributor, and jake, what is your take on this? there have been a lot of words and we are wondering what is next? >> mccarthy didn't have a choice here politically because he couldn't get anything done, unless he does this. debbie wasserman schultz is right, and when the house
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impeached donald trump, they had to vote to open an inquiry, and he probably does not have the votes to do this. they think and we will have to see whether it's right, it could end up in court whether or not they will get access to bank records and things they would not otherwise have access to if they call it an impeachment inquiry, and i am not sure if there's meat behind that, and i think it's legally dubious, but we will have to see how it all shakes out for mccarthy. i will say politically, and i think this is what the house republican leadership tells me, if they open the inquiry, whether official or not, they will have a tough time not moving towards impeachment. mccarthy is halfway down the path and will not abandon it now. i talked to the republicans on
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capitol hill, and they are salivating over this. to spend a lot of time impeaching the president is not -- especially without having a ton of evidence that he has done anything illegally, and certainly not high crimes and misdemeanors, it's politically dangerous. it's september 12th. there's not much time before the government runs out of money. at the end of the month, the government will run out of money, and the faa runs out of funds, and we have a lot of things going on on capitol hill, and you have to anticipate they are going to be less -- there's a lot of cross currents to consider here. >> jake, normally, and again,
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there is nothing normal about any of this, but normally when you move towards something, you include some even some small whipping to see if there's a possibility of what you are thinking about could have any roots to it, and is this a case where they are just going at it and have not even whipped it? >> whipped the vote, you mean? yeah, i would say if they whipped the vote they have come to the obvious conclusion they can't get it through the chamber, which is why he is directing house committees to start this process instead of putting it on the floor. i understand, congresswoman, you disagree with the basis of the investigation, and i think that's going to be something hotly contested over the next couple of weeks and months, and all indications are you are right. when donald trump was impeached, democrats voted to open an
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inquiry, and that's how is it typically done. i almost guarantee a lot of this will end up in court and there's a lot of dissension among republicans especially in the senate where they don't think impeachment by and large is the correct course of action. >> joining us now, monica alba. any reaction there from the white house? >> we are getting early reaction, josé, and over the last couple of weeks we know the white house has been bracing for this possibility. they set up a war room of sorts with two dozen lawyers, and staffers and aides who has been anticipating this and trying to aggressively mount a response. we are seeing that already this morning from somebody in the white house council's office, and that's spokesman ian sams who have already pointed out what you have been discussing, which is the announcing an impeachment inquiry without a
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vote, and in 2019 when speaker nancy pelosi did the same, then congressman mccarthy was quite outspoken about it. you can expect the white house to continue to point that out for now. again, this is something they had been actually preparing for since january or so of this year with the month of august being the ramp up to all of this. the white house is very keenly aware that this could become a collision course with this potential government shutdown, and that's something else they are really trying to link here and make the point that certain people in the gop, like congresswoman marjorie taylor greene, for instance, said, if you don't launch the impeachment inquiry we will force a government shutdown, and it will bring those two things together, and that's a political reality as well. we have known for sometime from the official white house podium, for instance, the white house
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press secretary said she doesn't want to focus on things like this, because that's not what president biden is focused on, and she is trying to deliver on the agenda, and i don't think we will hear much more from that part of it, and that's why they are able to stand up the other operation in the white house, and that will respond to and handle this. they have said for weeks they would like for republicans to be more specific with any kind of evidence that links the president to the alleged wrong doing here of his son, hunter biden, which we know, obviously all committees have been going through and probing now for sometime. they will continue to use that, i believe, as a major response and even some of the irs whistleblowers who were under oath and others who were asked about whether they could see any direct link between the president and his son's business
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dealings said there did not appear to be anything there. >> any reaction from capitol hill? >> we are aware how republicans on the house side will be parsing that, and marjorie taylor greene has been somebody pushing for this kind of inquiry, and on the senate side of the building, it could be met with a brick wall for senate republicans, and that's not what we are finding. several senators telling our team that they are open to the idea of an inquiry. lindsay graham saying the obvious here, and i don't know if they have the votes, but he said i would applaud the process where they have to vote. john kennedy of louisiana, a republican saying if they decide to do an inquiry like this, that will get them, in his words, a little more cooperation in terms of getting the facts and i will
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be supportive. there are members of the senate not saying this is full-throatedly wanting the house to do, but at the end of the day it comes back to the obvious, you can't get the facts without doing the vote and i don't know if they have the votes to do that, so this could be a lip service moment. and we are watching differences play out from the house and senate, and so far from rank and file members, we are seeing tepid support of an inquiry here. >> thank you all so much for being with us this morning. up next, we are just a few moments away from the information on the inmate that escaped prison, who is now armed and dangerous. you are watching "josé diaz-balart reports" on msnbc.
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indicating a short hispanic male, no shirt and wearing dark pants had entered his garage while the homeowner was in it and he grabbed a .22 rifle leaning in the corner of the garage. the homeowner drew a missal and fired at cavalcante. cavalcante is considered extremely dangerous. >> schools are even now closed today. joining us from glennmore, pennsylvania, lindsey reiser. we are 13 days in and what is the latest? >> reporter: there's a new phase of the new surge now that he is armed and considered extremely dangerous. phrf always considered him dangerous, but now confirmed he has a weapon. it started last night with a sighting of a man crouched in the world, and then there was an
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altercation, and he went in the open garage trying to hide and saw the rifle leaning against the garage, and he stole it. that homeowner shooting several rounds at cavalcante, and police don't have any reason to believe he's injured. we have a parameter set up of eight square miles, and residents are being asked to be on the lookout, and they can leave their homes if they have to go to work, but they are being told to lock their doors. it's hilly and a lot of cornfields and cow and horse pastures, and a lot of areas where cavalcante could be hiding. we know we have helicopters and k-9 units on it as well. this is what police said earlier this morning. >> we always considered him to be dangerous and i expressed that in every press conference and briefing i have given to our
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people out there searching. we consider him desperate and dangerous. >> is he desperate enough to use that weapon? >> he killed two people previously, and i suspect he's desperate enough to use that weapon. >> reporter: when asked if he has any help, police said no comment but they said they believe he is beyond assistance, and will potentially use that weapon, josé. >> thank you. turning now to the latest on the legal drama surrounding former president trump. attorneys for the former president moved to have tanya chutkan recuse herself. with us to talk more about this, intelligence correspondent, ken dilanian, and also an msnbc
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legal analyst. what kind of statements are trump's attorneys pointing to when it comes to them thinking tanya chutkan recusing herself. >> well, she has been known as a tough sentencer in the january 6th riots, and she made comments that seemed to elude to former president trump. in one case she told the defendant that the cap capitol rioters were pledged to one person, and what trump's lawyers are saying is that those comments seem to suggest that she believes donald trump was complicit in the capitol riots, and therefore can't be neutral.
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>> what can come into play when judges recuse themselves? >> they have to step down only when their impartialality. he requested why it was only the little fish being prosecuted for january 6th, and the judge said that was a good point but she doesn't have any influence over the charging decisions of the prosecutors. josé, i think trump's lawyers have to know this is a losing motion, but defense attorneys are always thinking ahead to an appeal if they lose at trial, and lawyers have to raise the issue at this point or it would be waived on appeal. and trump made it clear he does
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not want to be prosecuted in judge chutkan's courtroom. this is about trump's defense team, they have been doing a delicate dance of trying to play nice in court and treating judge chutkan like the well respected jooris she is, and at the same time, trump has attacked judge chutkan harshly, and this is also a performance by the defense team for their client. >> meanwhile, trump's attorneys in the georgia election interference case filed paperwork to get the charges there dismissed. what is that argument they are using? >> the kitchen sink argument, anything that might stick. in a rather brief motion, they are eluding to longer legal arguments against the structure of the racketeering indictment.
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too detailed to get into here. one is the conduct doesn't meet the test of a racketeering crime in georgia, and legal experts look at this and say they have a tough road ahead of them to win these, and into, in all of the cases, donald trump's lawyers will make every possible argument they can to delay, to dismiss, any motion that would stymie the prosecution. >> what do you see as far as those arguments being effective? >> i doubt that they will be. trump is piggybacking off the motions of his co-defendants ken chesebro and mark meadows and rudy giuliani. but the problem is, he is piggybacking off their losing arguments. chesebro is claiming the prosecution provides federal officials immunity from state prosecution. but there's no legal authority
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to support that. in fact, the law makes it clear that federal workers can be held accountable when they violate state law. jose, we should expect motions like this from all 19 co-defendants. that's why of the four prosecutions that trump -- >> we lost paul. i apologize. paul, i apologize. we lost your signal for a second. thank you both so much for being with us this morning. kim jong-un has arrived in russia for his meeting with vladimir putin. there you see him getting off his train. we will talk about what they are expecting to talk about when we come back. you are watching "jose diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. game today? (hero fan) uh, yea. i have to watch my neighbors' nfl sunday ticket. (josh allen) it's not your best plan. but you know what is? myplan from verizon. switch now
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breaking news out of the nfl following the scary moment for aaron rodgers. bruce beck has learned that rodgers has torn his left achilles tendon and is out for the rest of the year. the jets went on to win in overtime. the jets released a tweet wishing aaron rodgers well. kim jong-un is in russia ahead of what will be no doubt a closely watched meeting with vladimir putin. there you see him getting out of his special train that arrived in russia earlier today. kim arrived on his heavily armored train in the early morning hours. it is his first trip outside the country in four years. joining us now from ukraine is nbc's richard engel. it's good to see you. what more do we know about this meeting? >> reporter: russian media are
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reporting that it will take place tomorrow, that there will be a lunch. according to numerous u.s. offici officials, and russians officials aren't denying it, weapons will be at the center of their talks. the russians need weapons. vladimir putin needs weapons to continue this war here in ukraine. north korea has a lot of them. they have a lot of missiles. they have a lot of artillery. in exchange, it is expected that north korea will get food, some sort of business contracts, and will get help with its more sophisticated weapons program. this apparently is being approved also by chinese officials. because in july, all of this was set up ahead of time. it's unclear that putin and kim jong-un are going to have to reach any negotiations. it seems like the deal has been done. going back to july, you had the russian defense minister and a
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senior communist party official from china meeting in pyongyang apparently discussing a weapons deal in which north korea would send some of its stockpiles of ammunition, artillery and rockets, so that vladimir putin can fire them here at ukraine. >> richard engel in ukraine, thank you so very much. now to the latest on the humanitarian crisis at the southern border. the homeland security department's internal watchdog says the agency lost track of 177,000 migrants inside the u.s. a report says the agency only has a limited ability to track migrants once they are released inside the u.s. to await their asylum hearings. julia ainsley broke the story for us. good morning. what more can you tell us about this? >> we have been following this for some time, jose. if you can remember, around the time title 42 was set to lift in may, we expected big numbers on the border, we talked about
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border patrol considering a policy that would release migrants without court dates or the ability to track them. all they had to go on was this address box. dhs inspector general found between march of 2021 and february of -- and august of 2022, during that 17-month people, over 177,000 migrants left without an address in the box or giving out the address of a restaurant in michigan or a church in illinois, places that didn't exist and places that more than 15 migrants were using as that address. not only is this hard for dhs to track migrants, but for migrants who move, if they don't put down the right address or it isn't recorded by border patrol, they don't have a way to get updates on their cases. they could have a hard time claiming asylum or getting protections they might be eligible for in the united states. dhs -- the ig is asking dhs to
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do more. dhs said it's on the migrants to provide an address. >> we are talking about 177,000 cases. that's what the ig -- dhs ig was able to look at. do we have an idea of how many of those that have been paroled that have been given some process are still in the system? >> we know that 6 million migrants crossed the border over the past few years. it is hard to figure out exactly how many are tracked. a lot are releases because they can't hold them. i.c.e. has a way of keeping track of people, but that's not used in every case. even if they are given a court hearing, they are not always -- there's not a way to track them. >> thank you so very much. really appreciate it. that wraps the hour for me.
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you can watch highlights from today's show online. thank you for the privilege of your time. andrea mitchell picks up with more news right now. right now on "andrea mitchell reports," breaking news. under pressure from hard liners in his caucus, kevin mccarthy moves ahead to open an impeachment inquiry against president biden. >> today i am directing our house committee to open a formal impeachment inquiry into president joe biden. i do not make this decision lightly. regardless of your party or who you voted for, these facts should concern all americans. >> i will speak to republican congressman ken buck about that. he has said in the last few weeks, it's a bad idea. donald trump's attorneys try to remove the federal judge from presiding over his d.c. criminal case while trying to get the charges against him in georgia dismissed.
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