european regulations. they're saying this will mean less waste in the long run. >> morgan brennan, always great to have you on the show. thank you. that is going to do it for us this hour. make sure to join us for "chris jansing reports" every weekday here on msnbc. our coverage continues with "katy tur reports" right now. good to be with you. i'm katy tur. the house is back in session and the government shutdown just 11 working days away. speaker mccarthy has directed the house to start an impeachment inquiry into president biden. what evidence is he citing to justify the move and why now? vulnerable republicans don't sound thrilled and neither do some hardliners. we have what they are saying today. furthermore, impeachment inquiry doesn't exactly make the white house want to work with him which is a problem when you have

a government shutdown looming. it probably won't help among house democrats either whom they may need in a vote to remove him from leadership if he comes up with a funding compromise the freedom caucus doesn't like. again, why now? it may feel like debt ceiling deja vu. mccarthy's team says he's been counted out before, but is this fight really the same? or will hundreds of thousands of government employees find themselves without a paycheck next month? let's go to our much more plugged in reporters. joining us msnbc news senior capitol hill correspondent garrett haake and white house correspondent monica alba. garrett, are these two things linked, the impeachment into quiry and the government shutdown? >> reporter: they are in the minds of some house republicans. the challenge for kevin mccarthy is it may not be possible to go far enough to apiece those

members on either of these questions. a lot of folks who want to see impeachment want the whole enchilada. they want to see judiciary committee hearings and votes on articles they've already drawn. an impeachment inquiry really isn't a thing of any substance on its own. likewise, on spending, what the house freedom caucus and allied members want is a bridge too far, even separate from the impeachment element for the rest of their colleagues in the house, much less senate democrats and the white house. look, you laid it out in the intro, mccarthy has wriggled out of jams like this before. the bar keeps getting higher and higher and the trust in him gets lower and lower after what they feel like was in many cases him not holding up his end of the bargain in the debt seeming negotiations from the last time we were in a jam like this. >> what does the freedom caucus want? when it comes to the negotiations, the 12 appropriations bills, what are they asking for?

>> reporter: look, how much time do we have? broadly speaking, they want these things done individually and cleanly so they have a chance to go over them all. they want overall funding levels much lower than what was agreed to even in this debt ceiling deal. in some cases they want specific agencies or elements either defunded or with funding extended. chip roy yesterday was talking about changes he wants in border policy. that's one piece of a dhs bill, for example. other members want to see things like the fbi defunded or investigations into former president trump slowed down. there are policy pieces to this and fiscal spending pieces to this on individual bills. we are weeks away from a shutdown, and very few of these bills have even cleared committees. it's a dangerous position to be in with a laundry list of demands. members who by their nature like to dig in and have these fights in a way that we're not used to seeing when the margins are this close in the house. >> can we expect, monica, that

president biden might get involved in this funding fight or he might look at this and say, eh, doesn't feel like it's the right time for me? >> reporter: -- look to the debt ceiling standoff as a little bit of a preview, katy. we were doing this months ago, going round and round about how this was going to end up. remember, the white house was waiting before they waded in fully. they were letting this try to be resolved on capitol hill. i think we'll expect to see the same approach. you'll have the white house here say, look, the president had this handshake agreement on the spending back when they did avert that debt ceiling cliff calamity. they expect them to honor it. we all knew and we asked everybody at the time that this was a real possibility we'd find ourselves here again with deja vu though the stakes have shifted politically. i think the white house is going to wait and they're going to continue to say that this is something republicans can prevent from happening and

should prevent from happening. as you know, in any administration when we get this close to a potential or partial government shutdown, there are things the federal government has to do to start to prepare for that inevitability. so the white house will certainly have to answer to those potential questions in the coming days. they also have taken this totally in context with the other major topic you've been discussing in this impeachment inquiry, setting this on a collision course. they're the ones trying to make this linkage most clear. they're saying speaker mccarthy is being held hostage by some in his own party because they're trying to threaten the potential government shutdown. >> the freedom caucus is talking right now. we're monitoring it. i think chip roy is speaking at the moment. the white house is echoing what a number of republicans are saying. highlighted ken buck of colorado who said the time for impeachment is when there's time evidence linking president biden. if there's evidence linking

president biden to a high crime or misdemeanor, but that evidence doesn't exist right now. that's ken buck. dave joyce of ohio told forks he's not seeing facts or evidence that would merit an impeachment inquiry. dusty johnson said there's a constitutional and legal test you have to meet with evidence when it comes to impeachment and he has not seen that evidence. much of the same for don bacon, french hill, mike lawler who said with respect to impeachment we're not there yet. that's a smattering of republicans, both vulnerable republicans and hardliners saying they haven't seen the evidence. garrett, what is the evidence? >> reporter: it's been interesting to watch this today. even in his statement announcing the inquiry, kevin mccarthy said the house has uncovered allegations into president biden. he never unveiled the specific pieces of evidence his own members are asking for. i think it points you back to what we've talked to time and time again, the first rule of the house. when you have the votes, you take the votes. this house is not taking a vote

to formally open this impeachment inquiry. kevin mccarthy is saying it's because nancy pelosi changed the system in 2019. the reality is he could take the vote if he had the votes. lacking them right now, this is an opportunity to go forward and to try to propel these investigations into the spotlight in the hopes that if and perhaps when they uncover some of the evidence that he's lacking so far, more people will be paying attention. for right now, if he had the goods, he would have the vote. house republicans simply don't. as i stand here right now, in mid september. >> again, we're a year out from another big election. what could this mean for those front line republicans who won in biden districts, especially here in the state of new york. monica alba, garrett haake thank you very much. joining me now is former communications director, brent buck. does this feel like newt gingrich in the '90s to you?

>> it could be. if i'm joe biden, i'm learning the lesson. barack obama frankly did the same thing against us when i was working in the capitol, using over reach by house republicans to make the case that the opposition is frankly crazy and not a serious party. i think it's a real risk the house is running right now. obviously they've been making a case for that for quite a while, i guess. this certainly feels like overreach for all the reasons you've been discussing. i can find allegations everywhere. it's facts that matter. so far we haven't seen those. >> let me reach what grinning rich said back in 1998. it sounds similar. this is not about politics. i don't know and i don't care how this strategy polls. this has nothing to do with vendettas or witch hunts or partisan advantage. this is very simply about the rule of law and the survival of the american system of justice. this is what the constitution demands and what richard nixon had to resign over. going back to that moment with

what happened, the republicans set out to say that president clinton was a criminal, was involved in a criminal engagement. they never were able to prove that. then they went to the affair with monica lewinsky. without finding some concrete evidence that president biden was somehow involved in unseemly activity with his son with foreigners, do they run the risk of saying to voters, especially in this moment when we're talking about a government shutdown looming, that they're not serious? that's obviously what the white house wants them to think, voters. that's what the democrats want them to think. if you were advising krafrth right now, would you be advising that you do run the risk of putting off some of those moderate voters that we need to maintain a majority, maybe expand it, and also win the white house? >> i don't doubt that kevin mccarthy knows those risks. he understands politics really well. this is obviously an enormous risk with potential for big blowback. this could blow up in his face

entirely. you can't separate big-picture politics from the house republican conference politics. it's clear that's what's driving this. we've been talking about is this related to the shutdown. that may be confusing people. it may be related to the shutdown, none of the things wanted in the appropriations bill, none of them will work. give people something to be focused on so they're not upset about the appropriations process. i hate to say it. that is largely driving why we're talking about impeachment today. no facts have changed. >> is this his ticket out of it, what he's banking on to get him through this time. let me play ken buck about what this moment is like and what he thinks mccarthy is doing. >> i think there's a perform storm brewing in the house in the knee future in september.

on the one happened, we have to pass a continuing res luks. we also have the impeachment issue, and we also have members of the house led by my good friend chip roy who are concerned about policy issues. they want riders in the appropriations bills, amendments that guarantee some type of security on our southern border. you take those three things put together, and kevin mccarthy, the speaker, has made promises on each of those issues to different groups. now it's all coming due at the same time. >> i wonder does kevin mccarthy survive this. he has wiggled his way out of tough situations before, multiple times in the past year. is he able to do the same again, or does this moment feel different? >> it would potentially feel different. obviously this is a big day for removing people for office. matt gaetz went to the floor and basically threatened he was going to do that. i don't know if matt gaetz has anybody standing with him to do

that. it doesn't take a large number of house republicans to flip on kevin mccarthy and endanger his job. mccarthy has done a good job to stay one step ahead of all those numbers, similar to the way ken buck -- no relation, by the way -- laid out. he's made a lot of promises. that may be the difference between what's happening right now and his republican predecessors. all these promises were made at the beginning of his speakership. a lot of them were just not possible, not achievable. you can only buy time for so long. we're running up to the end of the fiscal year. there's going to be some type of outcome on how much we spend in the coming year. the promises he made back then are probably not going to be kept. whether or not that is enough to upset people enough to get them out of office, i don't know. whether democrats would be there to bail him out if they do that, i don't know. this is getting very real very soon and hoping that impeachment can distract enough people from that. whether that works, we'll have to see. >> it's coming fast.

we'll know one way or another. brendan buck, no relation to ken buck. up next, donald trump's attorneys want a new judge in d.c. what they are accusing judge tanya chutkan of doing. pennsylvania police now say the escaped convict now has a rifle. how cavalcante got the gun. charges in the death of tyree nichols. what five memphis police officers are now facing. we're back in 60 seconds. e backs i want to keep it real and talk about some risks. with type 2 diabetes you have up to 4 times greater risk of stroke, heart attack, or death. even at your a1c goal, you're still at risk ...which if ignored could bring you here... ...may put you in one of those... ...or even worse. too much? that's the point. get real about your risks and do something about it. talk to your health care provider about ways to lower your risk of stroke, heart attack, or death.

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a couple things she said during sentencing for january 6th defendants. what did she say and is that a qualified ground to get rid of her? >> let's start with what she said. in two separate sentencings they cite, she made comments. one was definitely about former president trump. in one situation she told the defendant she had unfettered loyalty or blind loyalty to one man who, by the way, has still not been charged. >> a blind loyalty who by the way remains free to this day. she said that during a 2022 sentencing. >> in another sentencing she was talking to a defendant who had invoked all the people who exhorted him to participate, who planned the january 6th events and basically said none of these people are being held accountable. her response was, you make a very good point and i might have

my own opinions, but that's not relevant here. your conduct is what's relevant here. notwithstanding that, trump's lawyers say she was unquestionably talking about donald trump in that moment. why? because the defendant themselves in their sentencing memo referred to former president trump as among the people who encouraged him to act on that day. >> when she said who, by the way, remains free to this day, and she's referring to donald trump, does that not show he shouldn't be free. does his team have an argument here? >> they have an argument that at a time when she did not understand donald trump to be under indictment she made a throw-away comment about him that might be reflective of her opinions about him. that having been said, that's usually not enough to warrant recusal. where you typically see recusal in federal cases like this is when somebody has, for example, a financial entanglement or where it involves a relative of theirs or where you really cross the line. they quote from two cases before

d.c. federal courts -- that's where this case is, either of which i think are remotely applicable or even analogous to this situation. one involves a guantanamo bay detainee whose judge was midway through applying for a job with the department of justice as the doj was appearing before them. you might remember the years old microsoft antitrust case. a judge in that case was giving secret interviews to members of the media in which he repeatedly excoriated executives with the company and on top of that made public comments outside his courtroom about those executives that was reflective of bias. here we have one comment and i think they have to show more. she has her opinions, as she said to this other defendant. whether or not she can set them aside is a different situation. judges are not row bots. they're human beings. >> is she the sole arbiter of

whether or not xi stays on? >> it's something for which they can seek appeal, but not for an interlocutory appeal. >> if he's convicted down the line, they can appeal and say this judge should not have been involved. >> that's correct. they can also seek a writ of mandamus saying you must direct this district court to do something now. that's very unlikely. >> that's a big risk. he could get convicted and it could get thrown out or appealed because of the judge. how does the prosecution feel about this? would the prosecution want somebody different just to take that off the table? >> my guess is that when we hear and more likely to hear from them by and on thursday in response to the recusal motion, they will say recusal is unjustified here. judge chutkan is not the only person in the district of d.c. who sentenced january 6th defenders who tried to blame

trump. the bench is rife with people appointed by presidents of both parties who have made similar comments and in many cases have gone further than where she's gone. >> lisa rubin, thank you very much. who knows what might happen? >> welcome to lawyering. we also have breaking news. the five former memphis police officers charged in the beating death of tyre nichols earlier this year are facing new federal civil rights charges. joining us is nbc news justice and intelligence correspondent ken dilanian. for our audience, please remind our audience what happened with tyre nichols earlier this year. >> reporter: tyre nichols was a fedex driver on his way home from work, stopped by a scorpion unit in what was later found to be an unfounded traffic stop. they chased him and beat him. we saw the horrific beatings on video later released in public. five officers were charged with

attempted murder. today we have a federal indictment accuing those officers of depriving nichols of his civil rights and conspiring to withhold medical treatment from nichols, charges that carry up to life in prison. justice department officials said there's a federal interest in upholding civil rights. take a listen to attorney general merrick garland speaking today. >> officers who violate the civil rights of those they're sworn to protect undermine public safety which depends on the community's trust in law enforcement. they dishonor their fellow officers. >> reporter: so this indictment alleges that not only did these officers beat nichols to death, but took extensive and elaborate steps to cover it up. >> ken dilanian, thank you very much. coming up, he was shot at several times by a homeowner, but he still made off with the

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coventry township. right now they have about 500 assets right now working on this, canines, choppers, a plane, all these officers here. some of them were gathered behind us for what appeared to be a shift change a little while ago. we have a timeline of events. 8:00 p.m. last night there was a sighting of a man crouched on the woodline. then two hours later a report from the resident that cavalcante went into the garage, stole a rifle and as he was running away, the homeowner fired several rounds on him. again, no reason to believe, they say, that he is injured at this point. they say while they always considered him to be very dangerous, now they are confirming he is armed and desperate. george solis asked at a press conference earlier this morning how did this happen? how does he keep evaevading? he stole a dairy vanover the weekend near the prison and that initial perimeter, about 27

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what do you do when you need to figure something out. directions, restaurants, history, the airspeed velocity of a swallow? i'm willing to bet you google it. google is so ubiquitous that it's literally another word for search. that is right the justice department says it is suing google, accusing the tech company of violating antitrust laws by illegally making deals to make it the near constant default search engine on your computer, your phone or your tablet. it is the biggest antitrust trial in decades. no one quite knows what will happen if the doj wins. joins us is host of the podcast on with kara swisher and pivot and "new york magazine" editor at large care are swisher. you're supposed to ask me if it's a european or african

swallow. >> google will use it -- their search on amazon, search all over the place. of course, chatgpt is a whole new version of search in an unusual way. this should have happened a long time ago when they were dominant and the government took a dive, especially during the obama administration of dealing with this because they were friendly. they were positive and tech forward and this and that. so i don't know. it's a bench trial, similar to the microsoft trial where thomas jackson called them a predatory monopoly and they didn't get broken up. i don't know. you can look at the microsoft

trial which i think this is probably akin to in some fashion. microsoft is now one of the most valuable companies in the world and, of course, is the biggest investor in chatgpt. >> a little startup is in here, the microsoft lawsuit, the startup with google. let me ask you, if they do lose and they're forced to resolve this issue, i know no one is quite there yet. is google looking at ways that they can potentially ameliorate the government, potentially break itself apart? do they make -- does search become a multi option on everyone's screen, like you can go to google or bing or whatever. >> which you don't. it's become a practice. google is now a verb. i think right now one of their economists, the father of google nomics, get everywhere, get off

apple safari on the iphones and ipads. it's a big expensive contract that very few other people can afford. nobody can afford it now that google owns the market. it's on phones, mozilla. all these deals where you ran into google everywhere and it was ubiquitous. google started as sort of the white label search on yahoo, and that's how it beat them. at the time yahoo thought it was getting a great deal. of course, it supplanted yahoo because yahoo didn't have its own search. a lot of this is past history. the question s will the judge say, okay, now today that's past history and they won back then, are they going to win now? if they do lose, i don't quite know what to say? will apple not do these deals. will they force apple to offer all the defaults or something? i don't know. i think people are used to using google. the water is under the bridge on

that. >> let me ask you about elon musk. the new book comes out i believe today. it's a big one. i'm curious, this news about ukraine. i know it's been walked back a bit about the geo fencing. it speaks to a certain presence of mind or mindset that elon musk has that this idea that he alone is in charge of saving the world. >> he is. i didn't know if you know that, but he is. he says that a lot actually. he said that when he was upset to about trump, he said to me, i can change his mind, i can change his thinking on all sorts of issues, immigration or whatever. i think i told you this. i had been approached by ukrainian officials about convincing him not to geofence. they were upset about it because they were highly dependent on it. the issue isn't so much his ignorance of geopolitics or

whether he's getting talking points from putin, the question is why is he involved? he's unelected, unaccountable, he gets to do whatever they want. why don't they have other options other than star link? here we put the power in the hands of a single person who based on his whims and whoever he's talking to gets to decide these things. i don't know what to say. i don't think one person that is unelected should have the ability to do this. others disagree but i don't. it seems problematic. >> is x going to be his downfall? it's not going well. advertisers are not coming back, he's blaming the avl. >> remember that meme on the internet? he's the richest man in the world. the stock is high. spacex is successful company.

it's like owning a weird mega yacht. he can do these things because he can afford it. i think it's a downfall from a reputational point of view. most people now, if you read that book especially, the walter isaacson book, he's kind of a jerk. i think he had a sterling reputation before that. he sort of trashed it a lot. i don't think it matters if you're the richest man in the world whether people like you or not. obviously he doesn't care. >> can you indulge me, because i was listening to your podcast and the response i got was just "huh" and i wanted a little more. you were talking to bury diller about save the media and the negotiations between the studios and the actors and the writers. they're at such a standstill. his idea is why are all the studios, the execs in bed with netflix? netflix doesn't have the same business model? i thought this was the most sound-minded assessment of the situation that i had yet heard. what was your sense of it?

>> i thought barry was right. he's sort of in the middle of it. he's been on all sides of this. >> he also would president answer whether or not he's had direct conversations about this. >> i think he has, obviously. he's an old mandarin of hollywood. they bring him in. i think he's right. i think netflix has a very different point of view than the studios. the studios are about to chase netflix into the streaming market. they certainly aren't doing as well as netflix. i think barry's point is these studios and writers and actors have been in business for 100 years. even if they argue, it's been a lucrative business. and now the economics have been knocked out of it in a new and different way. it's not just netflix. the tech companies and netflix have different interests and agendas than the major studios who are really -- when bob iger

who runs disney says the situation is unrealistic and everyone lost their minds over a very simple word, he's probably right from a financial point of view. look how many billions and billions of dollars they're losing. it's complex. i think barry made the really salient point, this is not a monolith anymore of the same interests. it's confusing, and this is not bad for netflix right now. eventually it will be. it's just you're in rooms with people with different agendas. >> they'll take the most extreme position and you'll never come to a deal. >> i recommended the conversation to about everybody i know. >> it's great. he's great. >> it was a very clear-minded assessment of what's happening right now. cara, thank you for coming on. >> thank you, katy. bye. up next, what the white house says iran can do with the $6 billion it will unlock in a prisoner swap and what iran says it can do with it. the nbc news exclusive with iran's president that is raising

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the president of iran tells nbc's lester holt in an exclusive interview that iran's definition of humanitarian need is very broad. here is a portion of that interview taped in tehran using a government translator. >> what is your expectation of its use? we're told it's for humanitarian purposes, food and medicine. do you believe you have the right to use that money in any way you see fit? >> translator: this money belongs to the islamic republic of iran, and naturally we will decide -- the islamic republic of iran will decide to spend it wherever we need it. how to spend our money, of course, it is under the authority of the islamic republic of iran. >> if i hear you clearly, it will be used for more than humanitarian purposes in your view. >> translator: humanitarian

means whatever the iranian people need. so this money will be budgeted for those needs. and the needs of the iranian people will be decided and determined by the iranian government. >> joining us now is nbc news senior executive editor on national security david rode. i guess this falls under the definition of humanitarian. the money is only available for humanitarian transaction, food, medicine, medical equipment and agricultural products. that's it. howe do they ensure that the money only goes to those things? >> the qataris have said they'll monitor the funds as they make these purchases. that's the problem. how do you really track what is the purchase, what's actually delivered to iran, how do you keep track of that? there's a second argument critics make, having this $6 billion come in to the covers of

the american government, spend it however they want if they want to aid hezbollah in yemen. >> or fund a nuclear program. >> that's true, too. i think the administration is hoping part of this will be some de facto agreement or a revival officially of the nuclear agreement. >> why would they believe that? is there conversations being had between intermediaries that suggest to them that they're open to that? >> i think, yes, and i think the sticking point was the iranians saying we want the 6 billion. this is money that they are owed. it's their money. it's money south korea paid to purchase iranian oil, but it's been sitting in a south korean bank under u.s. sanction for years now. i think the administration is taking a gamble. they're hoping this will create

some momentum and somehow get them to not go over the threshold when it comes to enrichment. >> if we find they start spending the money differently than they're supposed to, does the deal come to an end? do they suddenly not have access to that $6 billion and with we getting our detainees back before that? >> the u.s. said they have a mechanism through the bank that the bank in qatar will not release all of the money at one time. right now the families of the five americans are on pins and needles. the they are afraid something will happen in the next days and weeks to block the final release of all five of them. >> i imagine some of the money needs to be released in the few days and weeks before any of the detainees come home. but you are telling me there will be a mechanism in place to make sure it is not just a lump sum. >> there are mechanisms, but it

is impossible to have a complete accounting of where every dollar goes. >> how dire is the humanitarian need in iran? >> it is dire. lester did a great job and talked about the anniversary of the death of the young woman who was arrested and died because she was not wearing her head scarf. but the president expressed no regrets whatsoever with the crackdown there, and over 500 protesters were killed in the demonstrations. you know, we will see if it is over at this point. >> david, thank you for coming on. i appreciate it. you can see much more of lester's interview with the iranian president later tonight on nbc nightly news. it is an exclusive interview at 6:30 p.m. eastern. after the break we will take you to a mountain village in morocco

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for survivors is still underway, though the death toll continues to rise. friday's earthquake already claimed the lives of more than 3,000 people and more than 5,000 are injured. >> reporter: there is progress reaching the community cut off by the world by the earthquake. towns and villages that are entirely dependant on these hel capital -- helicopters for survival. the survivors will die without the relief supplies that are dropped off of the back of chinooks, but they need to be rescued and that will take time. it is desperate stuff. the damage is clear for everyone

to say. the problem for the relief effort is that it covers a huge area. even in towns that have been reached they still have to fend for themselves. they are doing it in the midst of buildings that are clearly unsafe and could collapse at any time. in a square men, women and children spend night and day in a town folding sheets. the big concern is the weather. so far there is no clue how they will be looked after. >> translator: the problem is the cold and the rain is coming. only god knows what will happen in the future and how long we will sleep in the street or if we can find someone to build us a room to stay out of the cold. the winters coming. it will rain. there will be lots of water on the ground. that's the problem.

>> reporter: she washes her family's clothes in the street. her arms and hands are bruised and swollen. she used her bare hands to dig through the rubble of the collapsed home to rescue her two children. she saved their lives. now what? >> i am anxious about the future because i have very small children. the house is gone and we find ourselves in the street. we don't have anywhere to go. the cold and the winters coming. we are homeless as you can see. >> reporter: this emergency is still ins it early days, but more problems are just around the corner. a street like this one, you can see most of the buildings are standing, but they are so badly damaged that they will need to be torn down and rebuilt. all of the people that used to live here are now on the street.

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