your tremendous leadership. and with that it's my honor to bring up the colonel of the pennsylvania state police, colonel christopher paris. >> thank you, governor, i would like to make a few brief comments. i'd like to dedicate those comments to the victims of cavalcante and their families. at the end of the day, all of the people behind me here work for justice and for the victims. a close second to the people of chester county, we appreciate your support, and we appreciate the dedication that you have shown us and the generosity that you have shown us. we are in your debt. this was a major operation. we know that it has affected your lives and we're very much appreciative of that support. i'd like to thank the governor and his support of us not only with his physical presence but his work in harrisburg on a daily basis. i'd like to thank the border

patrol, customs, the fbi, the marshals, the atf, our federal partners, the chester county district attorney, deb ryan and her chief county detective, dave sassa, our municipal partners too numerous to mention here in chester, montgomery, delaware, and bucks counties, we could not have done this without everyone. i would like to thank from the bottom of our hearts the members of the pomar lynn fire company. i know the media has been in and out of here, the hospitality that they have shown us, the logistics that you need to bring to bear in an operation like this, we would have been hard pressed to do that without them being good hosts to us. lastly but certainly not least in any way, shape, or form, to the women and men of the pennsylvania state police, thank you. thank you for your hard work and your diligence. this is my third manhunt with

lieutenant colonel george bivens. it's not lost on me it was nine years to the day yesterday for the blooming grove ambush, and in all of those operational cycles, there is no person who enjoys more of my trust and confidence. he was tasked with standing this operation up. my confidence in him is marrow deep. he is the consummate professional. i would now like to turn it over to lieutenant colonel bivens to give you the operational rundown of the capture of cavalcante. lieutenant colonel bivens. >> thank you, governor, thank you, colonel. it is a true pleasure to stand here this morning and talk to all of you about bringing this manhunt to a successful conclusion, and without getting anyone else hurt most

importantly. none of this would be possible without the support of this team represented by members of various agencies standing with us up here by others standing throughout this fire hall and still more who are out there throughout the field. let me give you a few details about how this unfolded. as you know, we have been working most recently in a perimeter established in northern chester county. last night shortly after midnight a series of events started to unfold. first we had a burglar alarm at a residence near prizer road within the perimeter. our people investigated that, did not -- did not find cavalcante there or anyone else, but it brought -- it started to

bring some of our people into that area. we had been searching an area not far from there already with some tactical teams that night. there was an aircraft overhead utilizing fleer technology and close to 1:00 a.m. picked up a heat signal that they began to track, was west of p.a. 100 and north of prizer road. tactical teams began to converge on that location where the heat source was moving. unfortunately we had a weather system that also came in and we had lightning flashing and it caused the aircraft to depart the area. tactical teams made a decision to secure that area, that smaller area as best they could, and hold it through the storm

and until we could bring dental resources in and bring aircraft back overhead to ensure that we did not have an issue with an escape. that resumed early this morning, and shortly after 8:00 a.m., tactical teams converged on the area where the heat source was. they were able to move in very quietly. they had the element of surprise. cavalcante did not realize he was surrounded until that had occurred. that did not stop him from trying to escape. he began to crawl through thick underbrush taking his rifle with him as he went. one of the customs and border control teams bortac had a dog with them. they released the dog. some of our ps cert members were also there had him surrounded. the dogs subdued him and team members from both teams

immediately moved in. he continued to resist, but was forcibly taken into custody. no one was injured as a result of that -- excuse me. he did sustain a minor bite wound. we had medical personnel at the scene, and they took a look at that. cavalcante was, as i said, taken into custody. he was transported to our avondale station for further processing and interview, and he will ultimately be transferred to a state correctional institute where he will be housed and begin to serve his life sentence. in just a few minutes, i'll open this up to some questions, but i -- before i do that i want to turn this over to one of our close partners, district attorney deb ryan. i know she would like to say a few words. we'll be happy to take your questions following that. >> thank you, lieutenant colonel bivens. today is a great day here in chester county. our nightmare is finally over

and the good guys won. we owe a debt of gratitude to all of the first responders for their tireless and dedicated efforts in bringing this fugitive to justice. they worked around the clock, and we are deeply grateful to all of them. our community can finally regain its normalcy and breathe a collective sigh of relief. this would not have happened without the collaboration and efforts on behalf of the multitude of agencies. i need to thank the governor, colonel paris, lieutenant colonel bivens for his unflappable and dedicated leadership. the u.s. marshals, the chester county detectives, the fbi, the u.s. customs and border patrol, the department of emergency services, the sheriff's department, and every single person who went out into the field in the most horrendous

conditions. we had weather problems. we had terrain problems and a ton of obstacles that prevented our capture from occurring as expediently as we wanted. we had the best people in the business, and we never lost faith that this capture would occur. we knew that it was just a matter of time. the scope of this manhunt was extremely impressive. the brave men and women who went out there every single day are our heroes, and i am proud to be a part of this collective team of people who worked around the clock to bring this man to justice during this monumental challenge. they utilized every piece of advanced technology, dogs, drones, helicopters, every asset available was put out for this capture. i can't express our gratitude deep enough to all of them and to the community for their support. we received dozens and dozens of

donations, well wishes, and kind support from everyone in the community, and we thank this firehouse for housing us. we know we disrupted their lives for a while. one of the first calls we made upon learning about this capture was to the brandow family who had been living in a complete nightmare. they are so grateful to the men and women who helped with this capture. they can now finally sleep again. i can't thank law enforcement enough for their efforts. thank you. with that we're happy to take your questions. >> with the helicopter, we saw the arrest taking place. there was some criticism about the photo op that was taken with the fugitive. can you explain how that's actually a standard procedure or what's the reasoning behind the photo op? >> i'm aware that there was a photo op that was taken out there. those men and women worked

amazingly hard through some very trying circumstances. they're proud of their work. i'm not bothered at all by the fact that they took a photograph with him in custody. again, they're proud of their work. they kept the community safe. i say thanks to them and good job. >> sir, did he say anything in the moment that he was captured? have you released the name of the k-9 officer who bit him during his capture? >> we will probably not be releasing the name, and in terms of anything that he said, we need to use an interpreter, and he has been taken back to the station and at that point, we will attempt to interview him at the avondale station. >> he didn't say anything upon capture, anything at all? >> i'm not aware of it, if he did, i don't have that information. >> your officers were authorized to use lethal force if he didn't actively surrender. was the goal always to take him in alive? >> that's always our first choice and preference. again, that option is only to prevent the escape of a very

dangerous individual. had they not been able to contain him, that would have remained an option. >> who made the arrest, which organization? >> it was a combination. it was a combined group of the border patrol and psp. >> when he went into the van, he had his tattoos photographed. is that normal procedure? >> yes. >> thermal imaging happened, was he in the same location he found you -- >> i'm sorry, you asked -- >> was he asleep when you found him? >> he was proned out. i have not been told that he had been asleep. i was told he was proned out trying to hide and began to crawl away. >> was it the same location? >> it was in that close proximity to that. >> was anyone helping him? >> no one was assisting him at that point. >> sir, what was the agency that was flying the helicopters that

first spotted the heat? >> that was the d.e.a. and a fixed wing aircraft. >> were you worried as law enforcement that you had to down the plane and there could be another chance for escape? i mean, obviously the plane had to land, but what kind of risk did that -- did you have to populate? >> as i've told you throughout this investigation, there are always things we have to contend with. everything isn't scripted and doesn't go perfectly. it's just another challenge, worried i don't think is the word i would use. we simply had to adapt, and so we secured that inner perimeter while always keeping our outer perimeter secure so that if he did manage to get out of that inner we would box him in once again. >> how tough an adversary was he compared to some of the others? >> i don't know that he was particularly skilled, he was desperate. and i've said that all along. you have an individual whose choice is go back to prison and spend the rest of your life in a place you don't want to be or continue to try and evade

capture. he chose the evade capture. he was in good shape, obviously, able to climb as you saw to get out of prison, but ultimately as i said all along, we had an amazing team assembled here. capabilities that are just very formidable, and i was confident all along that he would eventually be captured and ultimately this team, and i credit all of them for bringing together their collective experience, the resources and being able to apply that and capture him. it's never easy to find someone who doesn't want to be found in a very large area. >> previously you said you were reserving comment on anybody who was helping throughout the search. i know you said no one helped him this morning. you say now that he's in custody whether he received help these last 13 days? >> there were people who were intent and intended to assist him. we had been successful to the best of my knowledge, we had

been successful in preventing that assistance from reaching him. >> there had been some frustration, some criticism from the public as this was stretching on. now that it's over, do you consider this anything other than a success? >> no, it was absolutely a success. and i got to tell you, i think by and large the public stayed amazingly supportive. i had some third grade students stop by yesterday and drop off letters and notes of support for all of these responders. we put them out for them to see at briefing time and things. that's the kind of support we saw from this community. there will always be criticism. there will always be people who think they can do this job better, and they're entitled to that opinion. what i would tell you is, again, i put my faith in this group of experts, this group of seasoned law enforcement professionals, the dedicated men and women, not only of the pennsylvania state police but of all of the other partner agencies who went out there every day. i'll put my money on them any day of the week and i believe the community supported them and

continues to. >> will he be charged with escape? >> we'll be discussing with the district attorney what, if any charges will be filed, but for right now, again, there is commitment, and he is going to begin serving his life sentence at a state correctional institution. >> she is in the deportation proceedings. that will proceed as had been initiated. >> cavalcante got the -- >> i'm sorry. >> do you know where cavalcante got the eagles hoodie from? >> i do not. >> other than the rifle, what did he have with him, did he have anything else? >> just the clothing the and things he was wearing. >> did he attempt to shoot? did he attempt to try to engage? >> he did not have an opportunity to. >> how many officers were on the ground? >> i don't have the exact number, but looking a the teams we were sending in there in the immediate vicinity was probably 20 to 25. >> and can you tell us more about what those 25 looked like?

did they have specific armor? >> yes, they were a tactical team. you would expect camouflage, full armor, long rifles, that kind of thing. >> customs and border patrol, it was their bortac team out of el paso and pennsylvania state police cert, it's our special emergency response team. >> once on the ground, they now pinpointed him, right. >> yes. >> they were on the ground and quietly moving in place. length of time? >> from that point probably five minute minutes. it played out fairly quickly once they had identified him and moved in. he detected them at that point once they were already in position, and again, he started to crawl away and it played out quickly. >> what is your greatest lesson from this 14-day manhunt? >> you know, i don't know that there's any single lesson. i will tell you that i learned something from all of these, and as i told you before, i bring that experience to the next one,

and so i just go back, it's all about the team. it's about assembling the right group of people, the right technology, the people with can do attitudes who will stick with you through the investigation, and that's what we did, and it's worked well for us in the past, and i'm sure will work well for us in the future. >> colonel, intending to help -- get a little more detail from you did mention, you did confirm a sister was intending to help. who also might have been attempting to help? >> and the reason i'm not going to talk about that, again, as i mentioned, we will be discussing with the district attorney whether there will be any additional charges. i don't expect that there will be in that aspect, but we want to have that discussion before we -- before we disclose anything else. >> was he stopped -- >> no, i think he stopped because his normal pattern was to travel in the late evening,

earlier overnight hours, whether he got tired or whatever normally, he typically didn't travel later at night and typically did not travel during the day unless we pushed him. we did have several instances of that where he was pushed and had to move. he doesn't have night vision or anything like that, the type of technology that many of our operators had out there, and so traversing rugged terrain is difficult to do. i believe it was just easier for him to do in the late evening hours and late afternoon. >> pictures that -- >> i believe that's what caused it. it was a scalp wound and they bleed pretty significantly. i was told there was not any significant injury. >> do you have -- >> just one -- ma'am. >> a vehicle and a gun during this two-week period, was that surprising? >> no, all along we asked people to secure as best they could.

unfortunately, he was still able to acquire some of those things. again, those are just some of the challenges we deal with in an investigation like this. our people rise to those challenges and ultimately, again, he was successfully captured. >> i know that you led the effort also in july earlier this year when that person escaped using bed sheets. it was a chocolate lab that ultimately led to his arrest, and now here we are again, you're talking about a k-9 moving in and basically disabling cavalcante. can you just kind of talk about having k-9s and their use and how much of an asset they are when you're trying to navigate tough terrain and track down dangerous people. >> sure, in the case of tucker, he was kind of a civilian -- i would say we deputized and brought him in. he's now an honorary member of psp. >> what kind of dog was tucker? >> a lab. he was not involved in this.

that was in warren. >> what type of dog was the dog in this case? >> i believe it was a shepherd or belgian malinois. >> just one minute if i can come back to this gentleman, i apologize. in any event, k-9s play a very important role not only for tracking but also for just in a circumstance like this, safely capturing someone far better than we're able to release a patrol dog like this and have them subdue the individual than have to use lethal force, and so again, our preference is always to use other means, k-9s play a very important role. >> for those of us who aren't familiar with the area, can you tell us a little bit more about where he was in front of a commercial building? was he hiding within that building? >> he was in the wooded area, again, west of p.a. 100 there. >> i'm sorry, west of? >> p.a. 100. >> were you aware of how he was

getting nourishment and, you know, liquids? >> no, that all will be part of the interview we'll attempt to do, whether he'll talk to us or not that's obviously entirely up to him. but that will be something that we'll be asking. >> sir, at this juncture, can you release where he worked in chester county prior to his 2021 arrest for homicide? >> unfortunately i don't have that -- the list of those locations. i know that he did a variety of jobs installing flooring, but i don't have the specific list of work locations. >> how long will he be at the barracks. >> long enough for us to process him and however long an interview lasts with him. i don't expect it to be for a very extended period of time. and again, at that point he'll be transferred to an fci. >> is there any concern he would team up with another small man to step into a trench coat little rascal style? >> the dog tackle him? bite him?

>> you know, again, i didn't see the specific capture. what i would tell you is the way those dogs were trained is to simply go to the person. they will grab whatever is closest for them to grab, and then they are trained to detain that individual. they don't just keep biting and releasing or trying to cause additional injury. they simply grab on to and try and hold that person in place until officers can get there. so that's why they're never released. you know, at some great distance or unsupervised. there are officers close by who can then move in. the handler can pull the dog back off, give a command, pull the dog back off and officers take over. >> he did. >> you mentioned -- >> i don't have the name right now. >> was there any body cam footage or doggie cam footage in this situation of anything happening? >> not that i'm aware of. >> secondly, border patrol, are

they here? >> yes. >> when we talk about the expertise of border patrol being here to make that arrest? what your experience played in how that made -- if you could step up. >> sure. >> border patrol is trained in tracking and pursuing. from the time that an agent comes on duty assigned to the southwest border, they get lots of experience tracking and trailing people, and then with our technology and other resources, it just aids in the searches like this one. >> different terrain than you're normally working on. >> border patrol is assigned to the northern and southwest border, we've got training and experience in all types of terrain. >> tell us specifically what you did here. what did you do here to capture this man? >> we assisted the state and federal, state, and local partners with our resources whether performing observation

at night, searches during the day, searches during the night, and obviously we had our tactical teams here. >> question for governor shapiro, do you mind? governor, yesterday you described 24 house that you were calm and that your commanders over this operation were also calm. in hindsight, how did you balance the obvious pressures from outside that were forever saying find him yesterday? >> look, we had a job to do, and that was to capture cavalcante. and i had the absolute best team working on this. i'm proud to be associated with the pennsylvania state police and all the law enforcement leaders who were behind me, federal, state, and local. we knew we had the best, and we knew as colonel bivens said multiple times, he was desperate, and it was just a matter of time. i couldn't be more proud of them. i want to come back to two questions over here that are related to mr. holden's

question. one was about the assets that we deployed beyond the people. i hope that the public takes great pride in the technology and in the k-9s and all of the assets. we asked the public to support the police, to support law enforcement at every level, and they got a front row seat here in chester county and across pennsylvania to see the extraordinary work not only these individuals do but the great technology we're able to bring to bear to ultimately capture dangerous suspects like this. the public should take great pride in that, and then to the gentleman's question there in the suit, folks, whoever had their eagles hoodie stolen, if you could let us know, i'll do my best to get you one of those new kelly green ones, okay. >> governor, can i just ask you, two escapes, two different individuals from the same prison in the same year. what do you say to people who live in this area who say what is happening at the chester

county prison, and what are you guys going to do moving forward to try and prevent this kind of thing from ever happening again. >> here in pennsylvania, our system may be a little different from other states. we have state correctional institutions, and then we have county jails. in this case the chester county jail is run by chester county officials. they'll answer those questions as to what occurred and what changes are ultimately going to be made. certainly the state department of corrections will be here to assist in any reviews or in any other work that they need done to make sure that that facility is secured. they obviously have a lot of work to do there, and i'm confident in the leadership of chairwoman moscowitz and district attorney ryan and other leaders in the county, they'll get that done. >> is it estimated that the cost -- is it estimated that the cost of the manhunt is about a million a day? >> i can't, you know, put a price tag on it. we'll do our best to make sure that whatever can be tallied up is and is shared with the public. at the state level. i can't speak for our local or

federal partners. >> you mentioned the pattern of what time of day he would travel. were there any other patterns that you picked up on that were key in tracking him? >> there were a number of things that we picked up on, and he didn't follow the same pattern every single time. seemed to like to travel via creek beds. he liked other paths of less resistance, wood lines, power lines, gas lines, that type of thing, and that's actually fairly normal. nobody wants to have to force their way through very heavy underbrush and things, and again, i mentioned the time of day, but all of that combined with some outstanding work and technology is really what brought this to a successful conclusion. >> people in chester county were

grateful for your efforts. i know you mentioned on friday you were asked about containment and capture ultimately that tactic was successful. anyone that you would like to thank at this time? wawa a big help with lunch, any small businesses you would like to thank and the people of chester county? >> i will tell you that we have been compiling a list, and i don't want to stand here right now because i will absolutely miss many. some of those that you mentioned have been outstanding supporters of us, and i thank them. we will publish a list of all who'd helped us out because we are very, very appreciative. that level of support is really one of the things that allows our people to focus on the task at hand and to, you know, try and be successful even quicker than we might otherwise have to be. when i gave you all a tour of the facility here, i talked a lot about logistics and the support that's required to field a team of three, four, five or more 100 law enforcement

officers out there, it takes a lot to put it out there, and so the help of all of those folks, the help of the average person who stopped by and dropped off a case of water was very much appreciated. not only for the case of water, but also just for the kind thoughts and words of support that they always included when they dropped that off. >> contain the capture so the tactic was the way to go? >> yes, as i said, we always take a multifaceted approach, and so depending on the circumstances, there's always a contingency, and we're always prepared to move in whatever direction need to. >> were officers wearing body cameras and when will that footage be released? >> i don't believe any officers on the tactical team had that on. >> with the heat seeking -- is that -- [ inaudible question ]

it was a dea fixed wing aircraft. i believe that's south covington. it was north of prizer and west of p.a. 100. >> where were you when this all happened, and do you have a personal feeling of satisfaction for 14 days and very long, hard work, how's this feel for you this morning? >> i was here in the command post when the capture occurred, and yes, i'm very happy that this occurred and that no one was injured. you know, it brought a new level of danger for all of our people out here in the field when we knew that he obtained a firearm. and so for me the biggest sense of relief is that no one in the community was harmed and no law enforcement officer was harmed either. so that's really -- that's the win. >> set up a base camp? >> no, i believe he was more mobile the whole time.

>> it is going to be a state correctional facility and once he is secure there, i believe they will release where he is being housed. >> you said that multiple people attempted to help him. did he have any means of communication to reach out to those people and coordinate where he was? >> he did no at the time that we captured him. yes, ma'am. >> authorized -- did he try to -- also what about the decision not to -- [ inaudible question ] >> as i addressed a few minutes ago, yes, he had the firearm with him. yes, he was a threat. he did not have an opportunity. i believe he was taken by surprise. and i believe the k-9 played a large role in him not being able to utilize that full-time. what i would tell you is, again, that it our last choice, our last preference to use lethal force, and so while there were other options, the team did the

responsible thing, did what they're trained and what we expect, and they used other options, and again, lethal force is always the last option. >> going in for questioning, what kinds of information are you going to be trying to get from him? what kinds of questions will you be asking? >> you know, we have the criminal investigators that have been involved in this, everything from the escape up through the time that he has been on the run. i'm sure all of that will be included in their list of questions, whether he'll choose to talk i have no idea, and that will be his choice. >> can you guarantee the public that this man will not escape again? because clearly he has the ability to do that. >> i can assure you he will not escape while he is in our custody. he will be turned over to a state correctional institution. i have every confidence that they will be able to safely and securely house him as well. >> lieutenant colonel, was he in the perimeter you had outlined yet? >> he was. >> he was. >> yes, sir. >> how close to the edge of the

perimeter was he? >> it was within the perimeter, and he would have been within a few hundred yards of the eastern edge of the perimeter. >> colonel, in terms of the public being involved, there's video surfacing of vigilantes in chester county trying to get involved with this case. moving forward, if something like this happens, what would you tell the public in regards to getting involved in a case like this? >> i would ask them the same thing i asked this time, and that is please don't come out and try to become involved like that. you take away or potentially take away resources that would otherwise be spent on the search trying to deal with those individuals, and we don't want one of them to get hurt unintentionally. >> how far was the capture from where the burglary happened last night? >> within a quarter mile. >> colonel -- >> it wasn't a burglary. it was an alarm, by the way. >> any idea even ballpark time until transfer? >> it depends on whether he is cooperative in his interview.

that could take minutes to hours, but i don't have the answer yet whether he's -- >> does he have a lawyer do you know? >> i'm not aware of that. >> sir, do we know if his sister and mother entered the country via puerto rico as well? >> i don't believe his mother is here. >> okay. >> i don't have that information immediately available here about where they entered. as i said, his sister, though, is in the process of being deported now. >> lieutenant colonel, after everything you've been through, seeing cavalcante, once that interpreter is there do you plan on having a conversation with him, asking him anything about all this? >> new york city the investigators with quite competent. they'll gather the information that we believe is important if they're able to, and i'm confident that everything we need will be gathered in that way. there's no reason for me to have a personal discussion with him. >> anybody else about -- >> i think it's a very bad idea obviously, and we will be here should something like this occur

again. we'll put the team back together, and we'll be right back out after them. okay. thank you, all. >> thank you, everybody. [ applause ] good morning, and if you're just joining us, we're picking up the coverage of this morning's breaking news. i'm ana cabrera, and we just learned escaped killer danelo cavalcante has been captured. authorities revealing moments ago that he was taken into custody after a 14-day manhunt without a single shot being fired. i want to go to nbc's trymaine lee in chester county, pennsylvania, and also standing by with us, clint watts and frank figliuzzi and atf special agent jim kavanaugh. walk us through all we just learned about how cavalcante was finally captured. >> reporter: ana, i tell you what, i think you kind of mentioned one of the big headlines here that cavalcante was taken into custody and no shots were fired. the big concern was this could have gone any number of ways. but the true beginning of the end for cavalcante began shortly

after 1:00 a.m. where law enforcement using a fixed winged aircraft, using some pretty advanced technology called thermal imaging where they can see someone's heat signature. they were able to track him to a specific location within the broader perimeter. then some bad storms rolled through with lightning, so the airplane had to leave, but they were able to pick up that signal again shortly after 8:00 a.m. this morning where they were able to zoom in on a tractor supply company. and so using that technology from the sky but also using old school technology, feet on the ground and k-9s, they were actually able to encircle cavalcante before he realized they were on to him. once he did realize police were surrounding him, he tried to escape by crawling away. the police sent the dogs in. they detained him. here's lieutenant colonel bivens who has been the face of the law enforcement effort here. here he is describing those five minutes he said it took for law enforcement to bring cavalcante. take a listen. >> shortly after 8:00 a.m.

tactical teams converged on the area where the heat source was. they were able to move in very quietly. they had the element of surprise. cavalcante did not realize he was surrounded until that had occurred. that did not stop him from trying to escape. he began to crawl through thick underbrush taking his rifle with him as he went. >> reporter: it's really just amazing that this 14-day saga ended like this with no one hurt, not law enforcement, to some degree not cavalcante or any member of the public. now, police did say they used an interpreter to engage with cavalcante. they didn't discuss what he actually said. there were about 25 to 50 officers in that actual operation of detaining him, a combination of state troopers, pennsylvania state troopers, but also board patrol officers from el paso. now, one thing that has been questioned time and again is, you know, how did he survive

that long, and lieutenant colonel bivens said straight up he wasn't skilled. he was desperate. he wasn't skilled. he was desperate. so cavalcante has now been taken to a state police facility. soon thereafter he'll be taken to a state prison where they assured us that he will not escape there the way he escaped from the chester county jail. ana. >> a lot there, thank you, stay with me as i turn to clint and get your reaction, clint. prior to his capture, he was able to get his hands on a rifle. when law enforcement moved in, he even tried to crawl away still with that rifle. we know he's killed in the past. what's your reaction to how this all concluded without a single shot fired? >> ana, the situation changed dramatically there in the final hours once he had the rifle. you're talking about a convicted murderer who's escaped, who now has a weapon, the level of danger goes much, much higher.

you would have expected a very dangerous situation. what i thought was remarkable from that press conference is how they were able to build a perimeter, and use a dog, they used a dog very successfully to close in on the suspect. i think it's across the board when you look at the techniques they use, this is going to be a textbook method for closing in on a subject. they used everything from the d.e.a. mentioned with aircraft and forward looking infrared radar and then you look at the team that came from el paso, combine that with pennsylvania law enforcement and then using a dog. every single method that they brought to bear on the subject was used and all of it combined in his capture. >> jim, the image they painted at that press conference of how this all went down, the burglar alarm that they responded to, and then the thermal imaging picking up the heat signature, and then the storm, lightning having to pull back, just jr. thoughts on how this all ended? >> well, ana, you know it was the old yankee manager branch

ricky who said, luck is the residue of design, and what you try to do in these situations is design a situation that you can exploit the information, the tip from the public, the sighting, in this case the alarm. so the alarm goes off. they have the money marbles and chalk there. they have the resources, all these state and federal and local officers. they dispatch a d.e.a. plane fixed wing that has flir to the area where the burglar alarm is. they also investigate the alarm. they don't find anything, but the aircraft picks up, you know, a heat signature of a human. and then they're pulled back by a storm. they rush in the tactical teams. bortac is the s.w.a.t. team for the border patrol. we all have different names for these teams. the state police calls theirs srt. atf calls their srt, fbi calls them s.w.a.t. they're all basically the same thing, they're tactical s.w.a.t. teams that have long rifles, negotiators, gas, bear cat

armored vehicles, and they can deal with all these situations. they're basically the same kind of units. they rush a couple of them in there. they rush in the state police team and the boar tack team and they're right immediately in the area, and they've got a dog, they go towards the field where the aircraft directs them. he moves, the dog spots them. they release threlease the dog, he probably bites his arm, which is better than shooting him. good work all around, because they shaped the battlefield -- and i would just close with this, ana -- this is a lesson always for law enforcement around the country. i spoke to 500 law enforcement officers last week at a conference. your agency needs the help of your fellow agencies. the state police in pennsylvania is 4,700 troopers, and yet they still needed all this help, so we always got to work together when we get these violent criminal situations. >> it was a situation where there was teamwork. we heard a lot of praise from

the governor about all of the different law enforcement personnel who helped, and he also, you know, gave a shoutout to the public who he said was instrumental in allowing them to track the movements along the way over the course of these past 14 days. frank, based on what we just heard, what stands out most to you? >> so first, this is a win, not only for the whole law enforcement team deployed here, but also for the community that's very much involved. i too am struck by the stark contrast in techniques here. we have state of the art thermal imaging, which over the years has really become extremely adept and more affordable for law enforcement to purchase smaller devices as well. i remember back in the day when there was confusion about whether it was reading a deer or a raccoon, and we couldn't tell the difference, and it now takes -- it can read a million temperature readings per second so that you can imagine how helpful that is if you've got a subject on the move, and it can

certainly differentiate now clearly between human and animal. so that's deployed. and on the other end of the spectrum, we have the old fashioned dog that helped to actually detain the subject. and then i'm also struck by the entire panoply of local, county, state law enforcement. as we've heard the d.e.a. plane, the fbi, the marshals and then bortac. people might be scratching their heads, it's all hands on deck when you have something like this. you're looking for that skill set, bortac trained to search and even rescue humans, migrants as they come across rough terrain. that's what they're trained to do. also, we may forget that pennsylvania is a border state. the border with canada is within lake erie. that gives them immediate jurisdiction if they're looking for it, and then lastly, citizens writ large, we saw ring cameras, you know, doorbell cams being used but we also saw

screwups essentially where citizens didn't deny cavalcante resources where he got a gun where he got a vehicle. so we can see the good and the bad of how citizens play into a crowd sourcing of crime solving. >> we keep playing all these images of cavalcante. we're looking at one that was on one of those ring cameras, i believe, that you had referenced. but when we saw him taken into custody, we showed a picture of him wearing an eagles sweatshirt, which we heard the governor joke, you know, if that's yours, let me know. we'll get you a new one. we know authorities ended up cutting that sweatshirt off of cavalcante after they took him into custody. why do you think they cut off his clothes, frank? >> yeah, look, you do not want to take a risk with this guy who is clearly adept at escape, so whether he has a rock, a stick, a knife, you don't know what he's acquired from residences

and vehicles along the way. you can't risk it. you've got to strip the guy down. you do not want somebody getting hurt. you don't know what he has, and they are certainly not going to risk that with this individual. >> clint, what sort of security is he likely to be under now that he's back in custody? we know initially he was taken to sort of a local precinct it sounded like will ultimately be taken to what we're told is the state correctional institution, although they didn't specify which one for security purposes i'm sure, but he's managed to escape not once but actually twice based on the reporting that he had escaped back in brazil as well, prior to the charges and then his arrest in the u.s. related to the murder of his ex-girlfriend. >> i'm confident, ana, in the state penitentiary system here that he will not be anywhere near escape, he'll be watched around the clock and will be in the most hardened jail cell. jim had mentioned it in earlier

hours when we were discussing. he's going to be in the most remote place of the toughest prison that pennsylvania has, and i am certain that they won't let this happen again. they're going to be around the clock watching it, and at the same point they're still going to be running investigative leads. you heard it during the press conference where they were talking about was there anybody aiding and assisting him, they did a lot of preemptive effort to try and block that from happening, but at the same point they're going to be investigating that thoroughly. at this point forward i am certain pennsylvania law enforcement will make sure he has no way of ever escaping again. >> we know he was already facing life in prison because of the murder and the conviction involved in that, but -- and we've now learned from the pennsylvania attorney general he's expected to be arraigned on a felony escape charge as well here in the near future. i have some sound i want to play that we just got our hands on of some of the police chatter happening during the course of

this search. let's listen. >> chester county government and the various other agencies working on the prisoner escape are proud to announce the subject is in custody. repeating, subject is in custody. >> pretty calm there really when you think about what that meant, what that moment meant after all of these days and even weeks of searching. trymaine, i want to ask you you about what this means to the community there. it had to be incredibly scary to be a resident anywhere in that vicinity. >> reporter: ana, all morning since the news broke we've been using words like the nightmare has ended and folks are exhaling and they're sighing in relief. it's hard to actually overstate what this apprehension means for this community. all day long since the news broke again, folks have been driving by honking their horns and pumping their fist. it's the beginning of the school year. imagine being a parent and you get one of these reverse 911

calls that says, you know, schools are closed. stay inside, don't let the kids go out and play. so it means a lot, and we know folks all around the country are watching this saga unfold. for the people in this community dealing with an escaped murderer who was accused of another murder back in his home country of brazil who now has a firearm. and so tensions were already high, but to have the weather this morning break literally or figuratively, the heat has dissipated. the storms have passed and in so many ways for this community in this moment the storm has passed, ana. >> jim, just going back to what we learned in terms of his movement, he didn't have night vision so that obviously would slow him down in the night. he wasn't necessarily going all the way through heavy brush. he was following creek beds. he was following power lines. what are your thoughts about that? >> you know, that's a natural thing really. i mean, even when you're in the woods, you know, animals do follow the path of least

resistance. they will walk along a tree line or down a path. even animals do that naturally. the human on the run will do it as well. if he hears a car come by, he'll duck into the wood line, but it's a lot easier to walk along the path through the power line, down by the pipeline through a culvert. this guy was not a suvivalist or anything like that. but he was a person who grew up in a ranching area of brazil. he lived afternoon barns and horses and cows. he was not a person from an urban center. so he had some skills where he could move around the country, sleep in the woods, you know, and feel comfortable. that's what he did in brazil, and that's what he did here. that enabled him to stay away, but you know, i'm just struck, ana, by the dichotomy of the news yesterday of the five memphis officers charged in the civil rights case, which was the worst of law enforcement, the worst of law enforcement. today, which we have the best of

law enforcement. i mean, this is absolute epitome of what the citizens want their police and agents to do. they did today. so this is a great day for law enforcement, for the citizens. nobody else hurt, like clint said, this guy is going in the dungeon. the last cell block in the basement cell block of a max security prison and his last best chance to ever see the sunshine regularly was yesterday. because he's not going to see it much anymore because the state is not going to let him. he's been sentenced to life with no patrol. so, you know, the d.a. -- they could charge burglary, theft of a firearm and felony in possession of the firearm. they have charges they can levy against him. but they may do that in the coming months. but, nevertheless, pennsylvania and america is safe from this guy, and, you know, he's got -- he can't really do his sentence here.

he's going to have to die in the prison here because he's got life with no patrol. i guess he'll never stand for the charge in brazil unless the government makes a different decision. >> let me get to some sound we're hearing now from a witness who watched this capture go down or was nearby and saw some of it. let's take a listen. >> so we were watching from the loading dock and we basically just saw them storming the -- checking the tree lines, checking the stream. and out of nowhere, everybody started congregate back by the shed. and here they were, already bringing him out. and then we watched him basically walk him up one camouflaged trooper had his gun, rifle, they were walking him up. and they basically -- emss worked on him in the parking lot and they loaded him up.

>> the things that strikes me about that, it sounds like in some ways law enforcement wore him down. that patience was really important here as they continued to search for him diligently, throwing everything they had at it. it was the d.a. from chester county who said, all the assets available were thrown at this. he mentioned drones and obviously the thermal imaging, the helicopters, the dogs, the hundreds of law enforcement personnel from all of these different agencies and ultimately ended in this peaceful resolution where he eventually gave up and surrendered. now they're going to try to interview cavalcante and if you're doing that interview, frank, how do you go about it? what are the most important answers you're trying to get? >> yeah, indeed. you're dealing with someone who is obviously lacking food, nutrition, water, how he got this, i don't know. but it's going to impact the interview today. and they're likely to try to feed him, give him some food,

water, and try to just win him over in terms of, look, you really -- you want to play up to his ego. this is how i would approach it and say, look, you've evaded us for two weeks. you got to teach us how did this. what happened? you don't want to get in his face on this. he's not going to talk. if you want to learn something, you're going to tell him, i'm going to learn from you. tell me how this worked. and you want to focus on the prison. you want to find out if he had assistance. it appears from the video he had a lookout, that's what it looks like to me who might have been signaling to him as to whether someone was approaching. you got to address that first because you have to correct whatever went wrong inside that corrections facility, but you want to find out the how did he get any food, water, and whom may have assisted him, and what was his decision-making as to whether to approach this friend's house, how did he remember all that. you want to do that and you want to do it in a civil setting and

you got to read him his miranda rights again because he really is facing new charges, as jim said, potentially. so it will be interesting. he might clam up. you got to have that portuguese translator in place, which i'm sure they've got ready to go. because they've been working with family and friends that speak portuguese. but that's the approach. and that's how it's going to go. he may just say, no, i want a lawyer. >> talking more about this important piece of the puzzle of the escape. police and prison officials faced a lot of hard questions about how he got away, especially knowing that there was another person who had escaped this same jail. this is the chester county jail. and that was a few months prior to cavalcante's escape. of course, then it took two weeks to get him back in custody. how significant from the fallout of all this be, do you think?

>> quite significant. and i -- the after-action review, it just seems like they already knew there were some deficiencies and they weren't corrected. the state has said earlier today that they've got consultants out there, they're working to try and shore up any weaknesses with this prison. but at the same time as you saw with the video, this wasn't particularly an elaborate escape. he watched what others did, probably, he thought through his plan and executed it. and look at the cost in many different ways. one is financially. some of the questions were, how much did this cost the state and federal government? that will be one part of it. but what is the cost to the county -- chester county and all the citizens around it of having someone on the loose that is a convicted murderer. that had a weapon eventually and it was breaking into people's houses in order to survive. we're fortunate there was no additional harm to life when we get to the end of this.

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good morning to you. it is 11:00 a.m. in the east, 8:00 a.m. pacific. i'm in for jose diaz-balart. we want to begin with the breaking news that we've been following out of pennsylvania. officials confirming danelo cavalcante, the convicted murderer who led police on a two-week man hunt after escaping from prison has been captured. >> chester county government and the various other agencies working on the prisoner escape, i'm proud to announce the subject is in