good morning to you. it is 11:00 a.m. in the east, 8:00 a.m. pacific. i'm in for jose diaz-balart. we want to begin with the breaking news that we've been following out of pennsylvania. officials confirming danelo cavalcante, the convicted murderer who led police on a two-week man hunt after escaping from prison has been captured. >> chester county government and the various other agencies working on the prisoner escape, i'm proud to announce the subject is in custody.

>> the subject is in custody. i want to bring in trymaine lee along with frank. start us off. walk us through what we heard from officials there in the performance happening just a couple of minutes ago and how they were able to capture cavalcante. >> reporter: let's get the one big headline out of the way first. he was taken into custody without shots being fired by cavalcante or police. that's a wonderful thing for people who were concerned that this could go badly. but the beginning of the end, really, incorporates some old school police technology and new-school police technology. shortly after 1:00 a.m. last night, a fixed wing aircraft spotted a heat significant within the police investigation area. but the lightning pushed the

aircraft back. shortly after 8:00 a.m. this morning, the aircraft was able to pick up that heat signature once again inside a tractor supply spot. when police were able to kind of cordon off the area, surround that location, they were able to get into that space without cavalcante even knowing they were there. but once he noticed that they were onto him, he kind of tried to escape. they sent the dog after him which was able to apprehend him without incident. let's listen to the lieutenant colonel bivens describing the five minutes it took to bring cavalcante into custody. take a listen. >> shortly after 8:00 a.m., tactical teams converged on the area where the heat source was. they were able to move in very quietly. they had the element of surprise. cavalcante did not realize he was surrounded until that had occurred. that did not stop him from trying to escape.

he began to crawl through thick underbrush, taking his rifle with him as he went. one of the customs and border control teams had a dog with them. they released the dog. some of our members were there, had him surrounded. the dog subdued him and team members from both of these teams moved in. he continued to resist but was forcefully taken into custody. no one was injured as a result of that. >> reporter: all together, police say there were 50 officers involved in the apprehension. a combination of state police, but also border patrol agents off el paso. he's been taken to a police state facility. at some point later today or in the coming days, he'll be taken to a state prison where he'll begin to serve out the reminder of his life sentence and assured the public he will not escape this time. >> frank, 50 officers involved,

400 from what i'm being told overall throughout this last two-week process. we've heard from lieutenant colonel bivens being transparent over the last couple weeks. tell me what stood out to you as you listened to that press conference. >> there's three takeaways that strike me. the stark contrast in the law enforcement techniques and tools that were used. we have state-of-the-art thermal imaging. imagine the value of that as someone is moving through the woods or a building. and we have on the other end of the spectrum, the old-fashioned k-9, the dog, that isolated the fugitive and made sure he didn't go anywhere. that struck me. secondly, the entire panoply of state, local, and county law

enforcement that comes together like this. they're not asking questions like, well, i'm not sure if i have jurisdiction. they ask, how can i help? and the team that came from border patrol and you may be asking why? one, is skill sets are there from tracking and rescuing people in very rough terrain on the american/mexican border. believe it or not, pennsylvania is considered a border state in the form of lake eerie and the border of canada. so they have venue there. lastly, the entire crowdsourcing, what i call the crowdsourcing of crime solving. the degree to which citizens played a role with their doorbell cameras by helping the police and some people not helping the police. we have this rifle that was

gained through access of an open garage with a rifle stored in it. the crowd can help, and the crowd can hurt. but today it's a win for everybody. and the community is safe. >> yeah, you said a lot of stuff that i want to dig into. i was surprised to here that border patrol was present in the apprehension of cavalcante. would you suppose they were using thermal imaging or this was something new they added to his capture? >> it's interesting because i have not -- if i got this right -- i think this was the first time i heard the use of thermal imaging. it's possible that it was brought in more recently. i don't know. i know that the technology has greatly improved over the years. back in the day, we couldn't tell whether we were looking at a deer or a opossum, but today it is precise you're looking at a human being. it's gotten smaller and more

affordable. but it's typical now to be used in a wooded area. it's even typical in urban environments. when the s.w.a.t. team needs to clear a building, they deploy these. >> i wonder if they have added it recently because he had been running for two weeks and was armed. do you know if they just added the thermal images to their search? >> that's a great question. you would wonder why wouldn't they have used it earlier. from my knowledge -- one of those questions that i guess we have to wait in the coming days to get answers for. >> exactly. we'll get more answers in the coming days. i want to bring in jim kavanaugh. i'm sure you were taking a listen to the press conference as well and the apprehension of danelo cavalcante. before we dig into the details of it all, give me kind of your first reactions when you were

hearing it. >> i thought it was great news. great news for pennsylvania. great news no officers were hurt. frank said he was carrying a gun and he had a scope on that rifle. it's progressed. but we've used that a lot on cases and i would say they had that technology there early. but what happens is, the canopy -- a man can get in that canopy it's so thick. they can get glimpses of the heat signatures sometimes, but the canopy can be so thick. remember, the plane can't go up and look over a 30-mile circumference of woods. it's not effective in the daytime because there's a lot of people moving around anyway. you can get a heat signature of people moving around in the daytime, but who are they? they're people on their farm and property and normal activities. it's most valuable at night when most of the residents are not, you know, walking around the fields or the roads.

they're at home late in the night and then you pick up a heat signature. and the reason it became so effective here was because of the alarm. because that plane could have been flying a giant circumference looking for someone, but when that alarm came in, they can narrow that area to right around the tractor supply and being flying a large circle. they fly so high, you can't hear that fixed wing. you don't hear it or notice it because they can -- they can drop down closer, but they can also get up pretty high. once they got a lock on that heat signature, they called the tactical teams in, the pennsylvania state police s.w.a.t. and they backed the aircraft out for the thunderstorm and came back in early in the morning and picked the signature back up and pin pointed the teams right on him. like the lieutenant colonel said, it was five minutes, the dog is released and he's captured. i would say they had the assets, but what they didn't have was that piece of intelligence that they got from the alarm and that

sent them right through the spot -- >> is that why, jim, you suspect cavalcante was unaware that he was being surveilled at that moment and was about to be apprehended? because he didn't necessarily see the aircraft above tracking him? >> right. probably not. he probably didn't know it was up there. you know, helicopters make more noise and they're great police tools for a lot of things. but the fixed wings are great on surveillance. and we used them extensively on surveillance and they can loiter up there very high. they have one engine. daytime, you don't know they're there. maybe in the dead of night, you can notice it. depends on how high they are. and ambient noise in the area. he might not even picked up on that airport -- airplane until the last few minutes. he tried to lay low. if he tried to shoot it out, he wasn't going to win that gun

battle with two tactical teams who all have police rifles. he wasn't going to win that gun battle with his .22 rifle and he knew that. >> both you and jim just mentioned it, right, that he was now armed with this.22-caliber rifle that he was able to obtain in a home that he had broken into. considering that, law enforcement knew he was armed. how much more urgent did his apprehension become? >> you know, interestingly, as the lieutenant colonel said in the press conference, the guy was treated as a and d, armed and dangerous, from day one. he's pinned to two murders. i don't think it actually changed the gravity of the search, but it absolutely ratcheted up the sense in the community that we need to help too, we need to be extra

vigilant and take seriously the all admonitions from law enforcement to lock up, shelter in place. i think law enforcement treated this properly at all times and urgent and grave. i think it did change a strategy for confrontation. i heard the lieutenant colonel say that he had kind of changed the deadly force policy approach to this man. and i -- you know, jim and i kind of -- i'm guessing jim cringes when we hear the change deadly force policy. that gets very, very fraught with peril. but that's the change i saw happening was, hey, they -- they are going -- they're to treat this guy as a deadly threat immediately. that was interesting to me. and then the last thought i have here, look, i heard a lot of people inpatient with how long this took. it took two weeks. what's going on? i think that's our culture. we watch a lot of movies and tv series where the manhunt is wrapped up in an hour or two hours and we get impatient when

in real life it doesn't work that way. but this is how it it looks in real life. >> i know you've got to go, but as we think about this community, right, chester county, they have been on high alert for the last two weeks or so. lock your doors, don't keep your keys in your car, lock your cars as well. stay inside. keep on the lookout. watch for your ring cameras. so on and so forth. contact us if you hear anything. how is the community reacting today now that he's back in custody? >> reporter: yasmin, it's hard not to find poetry in the fact that the last 48 hours the heat had been ratcheted up with news that cavalcante had actually got a weapon. the community was dealing with excessive heat and torrential downpours. law enforcement was dealing with all of these issues. this morning, the weather breaks and it cools down. and now the emotions for this moment can cool down. think about his ex-girlfriend, her family skill lives in the

community. school kids, not able to go to school. for this man to be captured today, saw a school bus drive by, a sign of normalcy. the folks are driving by and honking their horns and pumping their fists. we talk about the nightmare being over, this community is finally able to settle down after 14 harrowing, dramatic days. it's one thing to watch from afar and follow all the nuances and details of this case. it's another thing for the folks who actually live in this community to experience this. for this community, this day, two long weeks, they finally get to breathe. >> thank you. i appreciate it. frank, this guy is going back to prison for life for murdering his girlfriend. he was able to shimmy up a wall in the exercise yard, make it over the roof to escape that prison. if you are in charge of that prison, you're the warden,

you're thinking about how to increase security is there. and we know officials confirming this morning that the prison that he escaped from is going to undergo major security. we heard they made some immediate changes to bolster security and they added they're going to improve communication of residents who live close to the prison. but how worried should folks be that he was seemingly able to escape so easily as we watch this video. just astounding. >> yeah, too easily. and this will be, by the way, a focus when they sit cavalcante down and attempt to interview him. i say attempt. he's going to be read his miranda rights and he may choose not to talk. they're going to want to focus on, how did this happen? did you have a lookout? did you plan it? was it opportunistic? how long had you been thinking about this? what other things did you think about in terms of

vulnerabilities in this constructional facility? there's been reports that a personnel action has been taken against one of the constructions facility employees regarding this event. bringing in a third party, a consulting firm, helps a lot. because they come in with a fresh set of eyes. they test it, they do all kinds of things to make sure the place is as tight as it can be. if it seems to the public that there's more escapes we're talking about these days, it's because there are more escapes these days. and that gets into a much larger area. >> why is that? >> third party corrections facilities. staff cuts. >> when you're an escape risk and you're sent back to a corrections facility like he is being sent right now, what happens to you once you reach that facility? >> you're going to maximum lockup. you're going to the most secure part of the pennsylvania state correctional facilities.

they have a maximum lockup, each state does, the federal government does. when you get into those, you're not breaking out of those. too many doors, too many guards, too many locks, there's no way out. when you're in general population, like he was in this county facility, he gets to go to the yard. you can see the weakness in that yard as soon as you look at the picture. inmates can go in a cubby hole that the tower is not looking at. they shouldn't have any of that. we have the greatest architects, america does, we can design these facilities, and legislators and taxpayers have to look at it, this is a case, you can pay me now or you can pay me later. you can build the facility so it's more secure and you don't have to spend millions and millions of dollars in police overtime and fuel for all of these vehicles and helicopters and airplanes, to try to catch one guy. so you got to keep him in there.

i was dismayed to hear that somebody said they're going to rebuild these facilities with roofs over the exercise yards for the inmates. i think that's a mistake. i mean, we're not a nation that should be -- you should be incarcerated for your crimes. that's the punishment. but we don't have to put you in a place where you can never go out in a yard and see this weather and see the sun and get some fresh air. that's just too draconian for me. design the yard so it's secure but it is outside. i think americans have loved ones who are incarcerated and they don't want to see them mistreated. we want to see them kept in there safely. everybody wants them in there safely. design it right, spend the money up front and we went have to deal with this in the end. >> you brought this up, part of the process here with cavalcante's intake is going to be interviewing him about how it was he was actually able to escape and his time on the road as well over the last two weeks.

what would you be targeting, focusing in on and also why would he be transparent about that? what does he really have to lose at this point? >> you know, quite honestly, this is about a hungry, very hungry, very thirsty, very tired individual who just wants to meet the basic human needs right now, and i would use that in the interview process. my training is to try to not upset this guy, that i need to learn from. i need to find out what happened in that corrections facility. i need to find out how he got food, water or not and why he chose this person to approach and this home or not and who is out there outstanding that may have been in the plan, perhaps, to help him. i need to win this guy over. i know that sounds odd with a murderer who has escaped and you're upset with him. i give him food and water. i become his temporary friend and i would say i need to learn from you. and the first thing i have to

focus on is the corrections facility. where do we have problems. how did this happen? and get him thinking i'm his source of food and water and he needs to teach me something, play up to that. i'll explain to them, you're going in the hole. you're going into segregation in a state facility. this is your chance to help. and i have to read him his myrrh miranda rights. he may say, i got food and water and this is the last chance i have for real human discussion. so we'll see where this goes. there's a complication with portuguese translation that has to happen. i'm sure the state of pennsylvania has law enforcement officers who speak portuguese. i prefer it not to go through the translator and have the translator directly interview him if the translator is skilled enough to do that. we'll see how long he's in this facility. if we see him in there for hours today, he's talking. if we see him transported back out after processing, he's not talking.

>> if you will, jim, talk about what frank touched on a little bit earlier which is the lack of resource that many of these correctional facilities that they have in place, personnel, funding and why that could lead to more prison escapes as we have seen recently. >> yasmin, it's an excellent point. i like to say that our tax dollars often are the price of freedom. they bring us this service, look at this great law enforcement service to keep pennsylvania safe. and we have to pay for that. and area all have to pay for that. we want to pay the less taxes we legally can, but we have to pay for the services and that includes jails and correction facilities. i would like to see our corrections officers higher paid across the country. are they understaffed? do they not have enough corrections officers in that facility? not enough training, pay?

usually across the board you see that. and communities are well served by, you know, making those jobs a little higher pay, a little more training, giving them a little more money for their facilities. it's one of the toughest jobs in america. give them help, we want to see the bad criminal arrested and turn our heads and let the sheriff and warden take care of them. but when they come to the county commission and the state legislature and say i need more funds for my facilities and for my -- to protect my inmate population and pay my corrections officers and deputies, don't turn a blind eye and start talking about, you know, we don't have any money. we don't have any money. this is an important facility for a great democracy. an important function, i'm sorry, of a great democracy to have secure facilities where people are safely incarcerated and we're all protected from them until they complete their sentence and get out. we got to think of that as important to the function of the

nation and we don't -- you know, some nations, they can't keep anybody locked up. the jails are a joke and criminals are running around. we have to have our system where when someone is convicted and incarcerated they stay there. >> thank you so you both. appreciate it, guys. we're also following the day's other big stories, including new reaction to house speaker kevin mccarthy reversal to open an impeachment inquiry into president biden without holding a vote. that conversation is coming up next. oming up next but we help you shape your financial story. ♪♪ we're not an airline, but our network connects global businesses across nearly 160 markets. ♪♪ we're not a startup, but our innovation labs use new technologies to help keep your information secure. ♪♪ we're not architects, but we help build stronger communities. ♪♪ we're not just any bank. we are citi. ♪♪

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i want to turn to capitol hill where reaction is pouring in to speaker mccarthy's move to open an impeachment inquiry into president biden all without holding a formal vote which is something he promised to do just days ago. joining me now is julie tsirkin from the capitol. give us the latest that we're hearing out of the capitol in the wake of this move from speaker mccarthy. >> reporter: he boxed himself in here. less than two weeks ago, he said he would hold a vote if he was going to open an impeachment inquiry, highlighting the fact that the american people need to be represented on the floor, contrasting the moves of then speaker nancy pelosi during the two impeachment inquiries into the former president, when she had opened them after the first one, she did hold a vote five

weeks in to conduct the impeachment. mccarthy defending the flip-flop. take a listen to what he told reporters just a couple of minutes ago. >> how do you justify this impeachment inquiry without holding a full house vote? >> easily because nancy pelosi changed the rules in precedence. let's walk through why and walk through what an impeachment inquiry is. an impeachment inquiry is simply empowering the house to a greater level to get the documents they need to answer questions. >> reporter: now certainly facing pressure for some of the more conservative members of his party, especially when it comes to the government funding deadline. i'm told in the first meeting with house republicans this morning the impeachment issue largely didn't come up. instead the focus was on how to pass a short-term government funding bill. he proposed some dates to members i'm told, but did not settle on anything except to say that the senate is going to jam them if the house doesn't act first, including passing the

appropriations bills. both of these issues are becoming tied together as he works to appease one faction of his party against the other. we're hearing from the white house who put out a statement saying, quote, that republicans in the house had nine months to investigate the president. they turned up, quote, no evidence of wrongdoing. they continue to say that mccarthy had vowed to hold a vote, now he flip-flopped because he doesn't have support. this is extreme politics at its worse. the votes are not there right now to open the impeachment inquiry. he's directing the house oversight committee to do so in any case. >> thank you. appreciate it. >> it's interesting, you hear because nancy pelosi did it as justification from kevin mccarthy, if true, if that's justification he's using, that was the same story 11 days ago when he said he how old hold an official vote. he doesn't have the votes within his own caucus, within his own party, hence the reason he didn't hold an official vote.

there are some republicans within the house that are on board with this. especially surprisingly in biden-held areas. you have mike garcia who says i think we have enough substantiation to move forward. we have critical mass. a fresh who represents a district that biden took said he's eager to dig into the allegations. how might this impact house republicans in this upcoming election? >> well, the 18 house republicans who represent districts that joe biden won, i would have to think that most of those members do not want to go down the road of impeachment. someone once said that impeachment inquiry is kind of like skydiving. once you jump out of the plane, there's really no going back. but these more moderate members, these guys in these swing districts, they're getting calls right now in their offices from

maga republicans saying you're a rhino, you're afraid to vote for impeachment and they're getting calls from democrats saying you're just a maga republican. these guys are in a horrible situation. this was done for the hard-liners who many of them are not going to fund the government in a few weeks. and i don't think this impeachment inquiry is going to pick up any votes for the funding bill. i don't see any reason why this was launched at this time. i think it makes life difficult for marginal members and basically and the hard-liners get what they want. >> placating the marjorie taylor greenes of the world now to gain house speaker as well. 15 votes in as we remember pretty vividly. why would democrats play ball as republicans did back in 2019? if they're subpoenaed for anything, why even play ball?

there's no official vote here. and they can just take a page out of the playbook from republicans from a couple years ago. >> i suspect what will happen is, republicans will be forced to actually take a vote on the impeachment inquiry at some point, just for that reason. and because the white house will likely stone wall just as the republican white house did when trump was in. you may remember, then the house democrat in 2019 did have a vote on the impeachment inquiry after pelosi opened it without one. same thing could happen again here. so there's really no -- i just don't see the benefit -- the republicans right now with this inquiry. i just don't see how it helps them going forward politically. i don't think it makes any sense at all. >> does it help them or kevin mccarthy stay in power. that's the question. thank you. appreciate it. more on the republicans push to impeach and the house democrats' fight ahead with robert garcia of california later on this hour. still ahead, big medical

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welcome back. we've got a lot going on this hour. we're following more breaking news in georgia's election interference case. a federal judge has denied a request for mark meadows for an emergency stay while he appeals a decision denying his bid to move the case to federal court. this is coming after we got a

new brief to press for all 19 co-defendants to be tried together. i want to bring in joyce vance that talk more about this. first weigh in on this breaking news on the latest decision from the judge here on mark meadows. >> i don't think this is anything that legal analysts weren't expecting. the way the law is written in this area, the state court is entitled to continue with its proceedings while the removal petition is pending. meadows will appeal the district judge to the 11th circuit, and i would expect that they will give the same response to meadows that the state court proceedings can continue. but it's important to note that the 11th circuit has set a tight briefing schedule and we're now expecting to get a ruling on them on the issue by the week's end. >> i want to talk about the brief filed by fani willis last

night defending her -- or making the case for her decision to want to try all 19 co-defendants together. saying this, essentially, i would impair the efficiency and fairness of the criminal justice center. you said this is a strong, strategic move from willis. talk more about that, joyce. >> we're back in state court where willis is fighting over how these defendants get tried. there are 19 of them. two have asked to go early. they must go early. so that's written in stone. the fate of the other 17 remains uncertain. and what willis has done, she has showed her mastery of state procedure in georgia. the point that she made with the court yesterday, it's not really that she wants to try all 19 together. it's the risk that the remaining 17, if they are severed from

these first two, will then file their own speedy trial requests. and the court could end up in a scenario where this case, which is expected to take four months and a lot of resources, could be tried two, three, four times simultaneously with different groups whose cases are required to go to trial under the speedy trial act by a date certain and you can imagine what a disaster that would be. willis has said, if you're going to sever the 17, make them give up their right to demand a speedy trial. tell them that you will sever their cases, you can set them for months out after this first case is concluded, but don't put the court or prosecutors in the position of trying this case multiple times that overlap. >> you talk about the georgia rules. it's a lot about that. how much of this is also about the rico charge as well and how they kind of play this out at trial, really a story.

as we heard from the state a couple weeks ago, they have 150-plus witnesses they would like to present here. i mean, could we be looking at three to four, as you mentioned, trials here, happening over years time with these repeated witnesses coming for testimony? >> yes. that's exactly right. and that's what willis said in the hearing last week. each defendant is not being charged on the overt acts or the predicate acts that they committed. they're being charged for the entire rico conspiracy. and so each trial will look very much the same. there's some individual charges against certain defendants that will be included at their trials. but the overriding rico conspiracy must be proved in each trial and that's why the government's time estimate for trial is so long this, this months long estimate that we've seen. >> as always, my friend, we thank you. after the break, everybody, preparing to fight.

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of california who is a member of the oversight committee joining us now to talk more about this. congressman, thanks for joining us on this. appreciate it. i think as we're thinking about this impeachment inquiry, one of the major questions is how do democrats respond, but also as you're thinking to senate republicans, many of them not necessarily on board, i know senator murkowski has been critical of this, another said it was a fool's errand. can democrats take advantage of this possible fracture that is coming between house republicans and senate republicans? >> i mean, absolutely. first, let's be very clear. the house republicans are in complete disarray over this impeachment. kevin mccarthy has flip-flopped back and forth. there's folks, even so-called moderates in this caucus which have made statements about an impeachment and how it's a joke. and, of course, senate

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opinion said that the house subpoenas did not carry the extra weight betowed by an impeachment inquiry. axios pointing out that that could quickly become a problem for today's republicans. jim jordan stressed that a resolution is what allows the courts to understand that the house is engaged in a fundamental constitutional activity. what do you make of this? >> first, we know that republicans, of course, are huge hypocrites in the house. they're going to go back and forth all the time. they don't even have a message around impeachment. let's be very clear about what happened then and what's happening now. this is a political stunt, literally, the republicans have made this clear, versus a former president who has been now indicted multiple times for very serious crimes that are making their way through the legal system. you just can't compare one to the other. the truth is that joe biden has delivered for the american

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covid-19 in the rearview mirror. we know it's here with us and still causing harm. certainly, the most harm to those who are over 65 and folks over 65 should make a plan right now to get their updated covid-19 vaccine. this is still really impacting everyone at all ages. even though we are seeing it impact kids less, it's still impacting them. we are still seeing kids in the hospital, unfortunately. this is why we made the universal recommendation yesterday. we know this vaccine is effective at preventing the worst harms that this virus can bring to us, and it is safe. we are recommending it for everybody. >> i want to talk about possible resistance here. it's the first time the federal government is not going to pick up the tab for the vaccine. in the last round of shots, only 70% of those who were eligible got it. are you worried the cost is prohibitive to people, it could discourage them from getting the

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remember, even if you have had covid before or you have been vaccinated, that protection does decrease over time. this will help you have the highest level of protection you can going into fall and winter, and it is matched to the changes in the virus that we have been seeing. >> i know the recommendation right now is getting one annual shot for most people. for some, they will need multiple shots. who are those individuals? >> first, make sure you are talking to your doctor. folks who are immunocompromised and others who haven't been vaccinated, there may be a different schedule for you. for most, it's a one shot doze of this updated covid vaccine. remember, you can also get your flu shot on the same day. we want to protect ourselves from both covid, flu and if you are an older adult, rsv as well. >> thank you. >> thank you. that does it for me. catch me every saturday and sunday right here on msnbc.

"andrea mitchell reports" starts now. right now on "andrea mitchell reports," captured. the convicted murderer who escaped a pennsylvania prison two weeks ago is finally back in police custody. >> it's a huge relief for residents in three states. >> we recognize this has been a concerning and trying time for each and every one of you in the region. we want to thank you for your support of law enforcement and for your support of this effort that led to this capture. this hour, house speaker kevin mccarthy giving in to right wing demands for an impeachment inquiry into the president and his family. still facing threats to his job if he compromises and agrees to

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