"andrea mitchell reports" starts now. right now on "andrea mitchell reports," captured. the convicted murderer who escaped a pennsylvania prison two weeks ago is finally back in police custody. >> it's a huge relief for residents in three states. >> we recognize this has been a concerning and trying time for each and every one of you in the region. we want to thank you for your support of law enforcement and for your support of this effort that led to this capture. this hour, house speaker kevin mccarthy giving in to right wing demands for an impeachment inquiry into the president and his family. still facing threats to his job if he compromises and agrees to fund the government.

>> do these things or face a motion to vacate the chair. let me alert the country, a motion to vacate might not pass at first, but it might before the 15th vote. mark zuckerberg, elon musk and bill gates called to a meeting to talk about how to deal with the risk of artificial intelligence. i will be joined by walter isaacson on his new biography on musk. vladimir putin and kim jong-un getting together for the first time in years. ♪♪ good day, everyone. i'm andrea mitchell in washington. the massive two-week manhunt for

a convicted murderer in pennsylvania comes to a dramatic close today. danelo cavalcante captured shortly after 8:00 this morning in northern chester county, pennsylvania, by state police and other federal law enforcement. thermal imagery found him. he was taken into custody without a shot fired. the lieutenant colonel of pennsylvania state police providing details on the moment of capture. >> shortly after 8:00 a.m., pack -- tactical teams converged on the area where the heat source was. they were able to move in quietly. they had the element of surprise. cavalcante did not realize he was surrounded until that occurred. that did not stop him from trying to escape. he began to crawl through thick underbrush, taking his rifle with him as he went. they released a dog.

some of our members were there. had him surrounded. the dog subdued him. he did sustain a minor bite wound. >> joining me now, george selice and william serukas. george, to you. this manhunt had the attention of the nation. bring us up to speed on how they got him. >> good afternoon. sigh of relief in this community. the beginning of the end for danelo cavalcante appearing to occur around midnight, when the lieutenant colonel said they got an alert that a burglar alarm went on they had been searching. at that point, they put that bird in the air with the thermal imaging. nothing in the investigation has been easy.

they had weather to contend with. that plane has to leave, but the critical tactical teams on the ground, 20 to 25. they stayed throughout the night. they pick up the movement again this morning. they move in. they surrounded danelo cavalcante. you heard, they unleashed the canine on him. we asked if it was the same canine that came earlier last week. he said, no. regardless, the canine takes a bite out of cavalcante. able to get subdued. the tactical teams take him in bringing this two-week ordeal to an end. a little while ago, i spoke with the lieutenant colonel about that moment. you heard the radio call signaling to all the agencies, 500 law enforcement officers from state, local and federal, that have been here scouring this densely-wooded area, searching for this convicted killer. it goes out saying, he is in custody. i had to ask the lieutenant

colonel what his reaction was when he heard that message. take a listen. >> relief, i think, summarizes my thoughts. i have been concerned throughout this that he might take some action that would harm a member of the public or a member of law enforcement involved in the search. i was very happy to know that that had not occurred, that everyone was safe that had been involved in his capture and that he was finally no longer a menace to this community. >> the lieutenant colonel unflappable. i pressed him hard asking what went wrong after he slipped through the initial perimeter, changed his appearance, stole a van, was reaching out to people, stole a rifle. he remained confident they would get their man. >> we watched you pressing him. he was keeping his composure and saying that they were going to get him. well done to all of them and to you, too, george.

great coverage. william, your reaction to the details that we learned from the police today? this was very tough, obviously. a lot of interactions. this man went into people's homes. this was terrifying for people in three states. >> good afternoon. i think it's a great example of how the system is supposed to work within law enforcement. these partnerships that are developed or that you see in cases like this are developed way ahead of time. the u.s. marshall service and the fugitive task forces across pennsylvania and the united states have been working with state and local agencies for decades to apprehend the most dangerous of fugitives out there. this is a perfect example. it's a about t better example o dynamics that exist since "america's most wanted" about how the public, law enforcement and the media can partner together to find these individuals quickly and without anybody being injured.

>> william, did we learn about the prison procedures at all that should prevent something like this happening? obviously, this guy was a survivalist. he handled himself, from his perspective as a fugitive, he did very well for escaping for -- keeping everyone at bay for two weeks. he never should have gotten out. >> as is the case with any escape -- escapes occur across the country virtually every day, whether a walk away from a halfway facility or going over an 18-foot wall at an institution, they occur every day. facilities are constantly upgrading their security measures, their policies, procedures. inmates have a lot of time to sit around the facility and look for vulnerabilities. i guarantee that cavalcante is considering his next escape attempt. when he gets to an institution in pennsylvania, it will only be a matter of time before he

starts planning that next attempt. >> they will try to make sure it doesn't. there was one light-hearted moment with the governor, governor shapiro. let's play what he had to say about what he was wearing when he was caught. >> folks, whoever had their eagles hoody stolen, let us know. i will do my best to get you one of the new kelly green ones. >> the eagles have changed -- they changed their uniform. he was wearing an old eagles hoody. somebody lost a hoody in this process. george, william, thanks to both of you. well done. a narrow path. house speaker kevin mccarthy trying to navigate how to keep up the pressure on the biden administration while holding back the threats from the right wing of his own caucus, that's next, when "andrea mitchell reports" is back in 60 seconds. stay with us. you are watching msnbc. bcsn

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despite the concessions he made to the far right to win the speaker's gavel in the first place -- remember the 15 roll calls -- kevin mccarthy can't seem to satisfy a critical wing of his caucus. one hour after his announcement of an impeachment and his famil members, and without calling for a vote to approve that inquiry, a reveral from what he said he would do a week ago, most likely because he couldn't get the votes, his position was threatened on the house floor by a major trump supporter over the upcominglegislative battles. >> you are out of compliance with the agreement that allowed you to assume this role. the path forward for the house of representatives is to either bring you into immediate, total

compliance or remove you. >> joining me now, garrett haake and former obama white house press secretary robert gibbs. garrett, the latest state of play, let's go over that. i want to play what republican congressman ken buck said to me yesterday. >> i still want to look at the evidence. i'm going to get a briefing on what evidence links president -- at the time vice president joe biden to hunter biden's activities. i haven't seen that link yesterday. i'm reluctant to agree with speaker mccarthy. >> he hasn't seen the evidence on impeachment. garrett, on the other side of the coin, as we saw with matt gaetz, the speaker is juggling a lot, because as ken buck was saying to us yesterday right here, the reason he agreed to this was to try to get them to back off on the confrontation over the short-term spending

extension. >> this is political horse trading for kevin mccarthy. he has few horses to show for it. that's part of the problem. he is dealing with folks who always want more from him than he is able to give them in one step. he gives away some of the power, some of the authority that he has. he gives away things like starting an impeachment inquiry to try to keep everybody rowing in the same direction in the republican conference. it doesn't look like that's going to be the case. the first order of business now for these committees is to try to come up with evidence, any evidence that might help them eventually hold a vote, like democrats did in 2019, to formalize this process. mccarthy was asked about this today saying, where is the evidence? he pointed to the direction he wants this probe to go. listen to what he told reporters this morning. >> we don't have any of the credit card statements from the credit cards from the shell companies. we don't have the president's bank statements. we don't have hunter biden's bank statements. providing information like that would answer the question.

all we are looking at is answering the questions. >> reporter: you could argue the just asking questions phase of this shouldn't overlap with the impeachment inquiry phase. but this is where we are. this is what the house oversight committee is going to focus on next. they will go of bank records from hunter biden and james biden and see if that moves them closer to get information to formalize the start of the process, much less actually impeach joe biden. >> robert gibbs, is an impeachment inquiry a political gift for the white house if house republicans find no wrongdoing by the president? they will have to acquit him, exonerate him. how do they message that, even though along the way it's going to be a drip, drip, drip of trumped up accusations, so far? so far, no evidence. a lot of amplification on social media. >> i would say this could be a

political gift for some democrats in congress and the white house. democrats who are hoping to control congress. mark murray wrote a piece for nbc news that showed the approval ratings of donald trump and bill clinton were at their apex during impeachment proceedings. right? this may well be a gift to joe biden in locking in and energy -- giving energy to them. if we get to that vote that you and garrett have talked about, it's going to put a lot of people in those districts in a vice grip of having to decide what they're going to do here. this is a fishing expedition, as you heard kevin mccarthy essentially say. it's one with, i think, great political peril for republicans. >> as newt gingrich, one of the people who saw the consequences of going for impeachment against bill clinton, as he is warning

them now. garrett, the senate will block any possible impeachment. some republican senators are being critical of the decision of the house. so that's a whole issue. you have the spending and a potential government shutdown. what do we know? are they starting to move on any of the appropriation bills? they are way behind in the senate. they haven't done, in fact. >> reporter: that's right. the senate is doing this the old-fashion way, republicans and democrats have complained about for as long as i covered congress, they want to see the appropriations bills tackled in committee on a bipartisan basis, none in an omnibus method. the house were hoping to move on the first of their appropriations bills, defense appropriations that was done down the line on a partisan basis just republican votes along the process. that looks to be on life support as we speak, even in the rules

committee. that bill, with republican votes alone, may not be able to get to the floor. the clock is ticking. if republicans don't get something to show they are starting negotiating, kevin mccarthy risks getting rolled on this despite his efforts to placate conservatives on other issues. >> garrett haake, robert gibbs, thanks to both of you. friends like these. kim jong-un gives weapons to vladimir putin as moscow's supply is wearing out in ukraine. what that means coming up. shots in arms. the new covid boosters ready to go. who should get them and what will they do for you? that's also ahead. you are watching "andrea mitchell reports." this is msnbc. msnbc. shelves. shelves that know what taste buds want. shelves smart enough to see, sense, react, restock. ♪

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in russia today, kim jong-un vowed full and unconditional support for putin. north korea launched more short-range missiles overnight. russia expanded their missile making. joining me now, richard engel. the u.s. and its allies were watching this closely.

there's this alliance and there's weapons that could be helpful to putin in the war. china is back seat driving this. >> reporter: absolutely. unholy. i thought you were going to say axis of evil. this is very bad news for ukraine. it's very bad news for the people supporting ukraine. as we reported on many time, the united states and other nato countries are struggling to keep up with the supply of ammunition. they are burning through thousands of rounds of artillery every single day. they are doing that because we are very much at a conventional-style warfare. we haven't seen anything like this since world war ii where the ukrainians are trying to breach russian lines, a 600 mile long defensive line, with about 500-yard deep mine fields along this 600-mile long defensive line. the ukrainians are trying to

push through this. they are expending a lot of ammunition. now with kim jong-un in russia, he is wrapping up his trip. russian officials say he will spend more time before he heads out of the country on his slow armored train visiting other sites. it's very bad news. china has said that whatever ammunition that the north gives to russia in order to continue the war here, they will backfill and help the north koreans replenish their stock. we very much have this three-way alliance with china, russia and north korea, each using what they have to effectively support this ongoing war effort. >> speaking to the war effort, we have the u.n. meetings next week, of course. everyone gathered in new york. a lot of talk about what's happen on the hill. just now, even on the house

side, the u.s. defense appropriation bill is in trouble on a lot of levels, tied up in a lot of other politics. ukraine money is even in jeopardy here. >> reporter: look at the interviews that president zelenskyy has been giving. there was a security conference in kyiv. president zelenskyy did quite a few interviews, including with the economists. he said he is worried that because of the nature of the battle right now, because the ukrainians are not showing the kind of results they were showing early in the war, that people who want to stop funding this war are going to capitalize on that and try and force ukraine into some sort of settlement, which vladimir putin he feels will view as capitulation. the administration isn't taking that line. i spoke with secretary of state blinken a short while ago. he said, we're in this for a long haul.

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more than 20 big tech tycoons are on capitol hill right now briefing senators about artificial intelligence and taking questions, part of schumer's push to try to pass legislation regulating ai. musk, zuckerberg, gates and another tech mogul gaining attention and power, sam altman, ceo of chatgpt. >> this is an urgent and unprecedented moment. >> the forum is being criticized for excluding watchdogs and including the billionaires benefitting from ai. joining me is jacob ward and walter isaacson with his new bombshell biography titled "elon

musk." it is making huge waves. jake, to you. it is almost as possible as who is there today as who is not there. talk to me about the whole ai closed door meeting on the hill. >> the people there today recognize themselves as sort of the power structure of ai. this is the very small group of people. many of the people have worked with one another over the years, and they now are the only people pretty much in the united states if not the world -- >> right now. excuse me. let me interrupt you. elon musk is speaking outside the capitol. >> i can't read their mind. judging by the fact that they put their hands up when asked if they believe that some regulation is in order, i think -- i think it's clear there's a strong consensus that there should be some ai regulation. it would be in the best interest

of the people to do so. i think we will probably see something happen. i don't know on what time frame or how it will manifest itself. >> that's the question. what are they going to do? >> i don't know. we have created regulatory agencies before. just recently, the point that while our regulatory agencies are not perfect, and i deal with regulators on a frequent basis with automotive communications and then faa with rockets, so i have had interaction with regulators for a couple decades at least. while regulators not perfect, there's no regulatory agency that i'm aware of that i think we should -- >> unfortunately --

>> i think the probability of being an ai regulatory agency that stands on its own similar to the faa or fcc is likely. >> you think so? >> i think so. the reason that i have been -- i think the consequences of ai going wrong are severe. we have to be proactive rather than reactive. in the past -- if you take -- i'm being late for speaking to regulators. >> i don't want to hold you up. >> if you take the example of seat belts. seat belts were opposed by the auto industry for a long time. data was clear they are safe. they radically improve deaths and injuries. we don't want to be in the situation where we fight regulations even though there's

a safety thing. we can't wait for millions of people to die in auto accidents. it's important to elevate the question here. the question is really one of civilizational risk. it's very important to understand. i gotta go. >> do you think congress is ready to regulate ai? >> the sequence of events will not be jumping into the deep end and making rules. it starts with insight. this is how all of the regulatory bodies have been formed, i believe. you start with a group formed to create insight to understand the situation. then you have proposed rule making. you get some objection from industry. then you get a consensus on rule making. that then becomes law or regulation.

i saw little disagreement. >> thank you. >> that was our colleague from cnbc who caught up with elon musk and was the first to get some comments from him. jake, i interrupted you. i think for a good reason. pick it up there from what he seemed to be saying is that there is a need to first have this discussion and then discuss what proposals would come in terms of regulation. >> i think it's very interesting to listen to elon musk talk about not jumping into the deep end with regulation until we have had a chance to talk it through. in theory, that is how the industry says it wants regulation to work. what's so interesting is that speaking of jumping into the deep end, that's what these big companies have been doing. they are creating vast foundational models, trained on language all across the internet on all of the ugliness and goodness of human behavior and

releasing it into the wild. openai is on track reportedly to earn more than $1 billion selling these models right now. they are moving so fast. the idea that regulators should somehow wait and find out what goes on, do a bunch of research before we start thinking about regulation does not make a lot of sense to the people i have been speaking with. i want to get a little perspective from somebody i spoke to yesterday, someone fired from google in order to -- in response to criticism she had as an ethics researchers. i asked her, what's wrong with having a bunch of ceos talking to senators behind closed doors. >> they are incentivized to the shareholders. they want to maximize profit. it will push schumer in a direction where research on critical aspects of more ethical ai will be de-prioritized. that's a problem in the long run. >> the criticism from so many

academics has been this is much more -- not so much a serious regulatory discussion behind closed doors, closed to the public, closed to the media, more of a selfie opportunity. that's the criticism we are hearing about today's events. >> understood. jake ward, thank you for the perspective and from san francisco where this is booming. walter, another extraordinary book. you have had the access to -- you have done steve jobs, kissinger, albert einstein. your range is amazing. congratulations. you had unprecedented access to elon musk, spending nearly two years following him about ai. you write, quote, ai was the biggest storm brewing and there was no one more attracted to a storm than musk. you expressed major concerns about ai -- or he did, from the beginning. talk to me about that.

then we will get into some of the other -- >> that was from a few months ago as i was finishing the reporting on the book. he said, i have to talk to you in person. he felt that there was a storm -- a safety storm on ai. he wanted to jump in. ever since he was a kid and he was reading robot stories, he has been worried that the robots would turn against us. that's why he formed openai with sam altman, who was at the hearing with him. they had a falling out because he felt sam altman was closing it a bit. musk is now starting his own ai company. what he believes -- you heard him say, but we lost a little of that with the sound, is that there has to be a regulatory agency. he is not somebody who loves regulations, but he deals with the faa, fcc, the highway transportation safety board. he feels there should be an agency that's of experts that

tries to regulate ai in the future. >> at one point you write musk told you that he should be focused on ai instead of buying twitter, now called x, telling you, quote, i don't know why i did it. the judge basically said that i have to buy twitter or else, and now i'm like, okay, expletive. he wanted to help democracy and free speech. you suggest it was more personal. >> yeah. did he want to buy twitter? he does it on an impulse. he is on vacation, sort of, or in hawaii, and he just sort of blusters into this, because he loves the product. people said, does he want to do it? well, some mornings he did. other days, he was really upset and tried to fight having to go through with the deal. in the end, there were multiple reasons that he got excited about owning twitter. one is that 20 years ago he started x ai, which was something that morphed into

paypal. he also had moved his politics a bit. he had a daughter who had transitioned. he felt she had become marxist. he felt twitter had gone to the left. you be the judge of that. there were many reasons at the time he decided he had to go through with the twitter deal. but to get back to ai, one of the things that twitter has is one of the biggest data flows of the high mind of humanity, a billion tweets a week that can be used to train the ai systems, what do people think, all of that is, as he put it, something extra he got when he bought twitter, it's a training ground for ai systems. >> also from your book you wrote

twitter has many of the attributes of a schoolyard. if you are the richest and cleverist, you can decide, unlike when you were a kid, to become kid of the schoolyard. that gives you a perspective on the personality and the psyche. right? >> i think he was bullied on the schoolyard. so many people around him say, in some ways when something bad happens to him, it takes him back to the horrible days on the schoolyard. in some ways, this is the biggest playground around. it's a global playground. he has turned it into a more contentious place, a place with a lot more speech that's on the fringe and unfettered. that's the type of person he is. >> walter, yesterday vladimir putin was praising elon musk as a talented businessman and

outstanding person. musk's ties to putin have certainly raised concerns in washington and other capitals, right? >> yeah. when russia invaded ukraine, all the communication systems were knocked out. the only one that existed was starlink. he rushed in because he sort of has this, i'm going to be a savior complex, in support of the ukrainians. they would have been wiped out if they wouldn't have been able to communicate with their troops. he rushed in on that side. at a certain point, they were conducting a secret attack on crimea, and he decided not to enable starlink, which it had been disabled, he cut it off and it had been disabled. he decided not to do it. he has had this strange relationship. but he is not talking to putin.

he did it through the russian ambassador. >> some of the things -- the conspiracy theories, there's so much more in the book. it's extraordinary. >> thank you so much. >> because of elon musk speaking, we lost a little of our time. will you come back? >> i'm always available. >> thank you. the book is "elon musk." another great walter isaacson coup. a provocative question, one that many people, even many democrats, have been reflecting on, whether joe biden should be running. we will have that when we come back. you are watching "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. mitchell reports" on msnbc

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old on inauguration day, 2025, comes from "washington post" columnist david ignatius in an opinion piece writing, i don't think biden and vice president harris should run for re-election. it is painful to say that, he writes, given my admiration for what they have accomplished. if they campaign together in 2024, i think biden risks undoing his greatest achievement, which was stopping trump. david ignatius joins me now. david, how are the phone calls this morning? >> andrea, basically, what i tried to say this morning is what you summarized in your introduction. this was not an easy column to write. i admire many of the things that president biden has done in domestic policy and in his foreign policy. i did come to feel over the summer that the basic goal he set himself when he ran for president in 2019 of stopping donald trump was at risk, and

that this needed to be discussed. i haven't been anywhere in conversations with democrats, people who follow politics, where this has not been an issue that's something that absorbs people, fills dinner conversations. it hasn't been discussed in public. i thought it was appropriate that that discussion begin. i think we are running out of time for there to be a meaningful process of looking at alternative candidates. in a month or two, it will be done. i think this is the time to have that conversation. i hope the democrats will join in this. in the end, this is joe biden's decision. if he decides he is the person who can beat donald trump and the beat the republican candidate, he is going to run. but i think he needs to search his soul and think carefully about it. i hope he does that. >> i want to read another excerpt from your piece. biden has never been good at

saying no. he should have resisted the choice of kamala harris, who was a colleague of his beloved son when they were state attorneys general. he should have blocked then house speaker nancy pelosi's visit to taiwan, which has done damage to the island's security. he should have stopped his son hunter from joining the board of a ukrainian gas company and representing companies in china. he should havehunter's attempting to impress them by getting dad on the phone. you raise a lot of issues there. >> there are a lot of issues. i'm expressing the judgment that i have come to watching biden through his presidency, over many years. i think he has been a good president. i think he has made strategic decisions. i think he has executed carefully and well. i think that there is a sphere, when it comes to saying no to people, especially people in a personal sense, he is not good

at it. i think the visit to taiwan by pelosi. that did damage. it's his responsible to tell the house speaker, as close as he is to her, as much as she wanted to make this trip, this is not a good idea. all of the advisors felt that way. he didn't do it. i do wish he had been more forthright with his son hunter. not that joe biden himself did anything corrupt. he should have said, this just isn't a good idea for you. again, it's not something that he is good at. what i say in the column is, he has a moment now where he should think about whether he should say no to himself about this question of running again. there's strong feeling in the country, it's bipartisan, that when he takes office at 82, he is too old to serve a four-year term. 77% of people in an ap poll said that. 69% of democrats said that. the president needs to think

about that. if he decides they are wrong, that he wants to go forward, be clear in his own mind and clear with the country in saying it straight up. >> i want to play what former senator claire mccaskill asked earlier today for our viewers on "morning joe" "morning joe" about the criticism of kamala harris. >> i've started a little exercise. every time somebody says something negative to me about kamala harris, i go, well, what is it specifically about her you don't like? what has she done that is so offensive to you? and you know, i get -- nobody has an answer. >> so what is the answer to that? >> so my answer is that the poll numbers show she's a little bit more unpopular, roughly the same unpopularity as the president. my impression from talking to people in washington, around the country is that she has not been

successful in the way that she would want in getting traction as vice president. the key question with somebody who's as old as vice president -- excuse me -- president biden will be is whether people see the vice president as a strong successor, so far i don't think these shaed -- she's made that case to the country. if she's going to make it, now is the time. >> david ignatius, a very controversial column today, certainly among democrats, but thank you very much. thanks for bringing it to us. and the new covid vaccine, the shots are being rolled out to the general public today and tomorrow they say after getting the green light from the cdc yesterday. some in new york city already getting their dose. it's recommended for anyone over the age of 6 months. joining us now is dr. kavita patel. dr. patel, they say this is not a booster, this is a regular shot you should just get

annually. >> yeah, that's the distinction here, andrea. we're going to have an annual shot like the flu shot. i think what's key is that unless for a small group of people, basically children under the age of 5, if you have been or never been vaccinated, this is the only shot you need, and as you mentioned, it's already being rolled out. i've been telling patients most pharmacies will carry this in clinic by next week, and one shot is all it takes. mix and match, didn't matter which shots you had previous. >> consumer awareness just here in d.c., i went to a major chain, got an appointment after the last booster, the booster shot, and appointment accepted, all that jazz, went to get it, and when i went, they said, oh, no, we don't have it yet. so there are hangups in these rollouts at the consumer level. >> yeah, that's right, andrea, and i think we've been learning from it, and the hangouts have been low to be honest, only about one in five americans got that booster before. i think some of the rollout is

going to be timing. you can do this with the flu shot. you can get all your immunizations at the same time. people have been asking me that, even in the same arm. be kind of painful, that's why i like to put them in different arms. i also recommend if you've recently had covid, hold off on getting the new immunization, maybe wait until right before the holiday season when you might be likely to see more people. >> kavita patel, thank you so much. it's great to see you. so happy about a new shot. more than a month after the devastating maui wildfires, state officials will soon start allowing supervised visits for residents to see what remains of their homes and businesses. amid so much grief and loss, there are incredible stories of communities coming together and support also pouring in. hawaii native and singer song writer jack johnson is helping the best way he knows how, with music.

>> the multiplatinum musician and environmentalist is releasing a live benefit album songs from maui, followed by a soldout benefit concert in honolulu on monday. the album includes songs recorded during his 2012 show in maui featuring hawaii's own john cruz. jack johnson joins me now live from oahu. thank you for everybody who's been wanting to do things, some people have sent help, but this is such a tangible way to help the place you love. >> yeah, appreciate it. thanks for having me on. >> well, like you said, you know, after we learned about it, i just want to start by sending all of my love, all of our friends and family love to the lahaina community. it's just -- as everybody's seen the images on the news, it's just been a really hard time for

that community, and we're a couple islands away, but hawaii is a really close place, you know, we're all connected and just trying to listen and kind of communicate with the people who are in that community to learn the best ways we can support, the best ways that me and my friends know how to support is to put music out is and to try to use the attention that's on us to shine it on things more important. and so we're talking about a live show, and then the idea of putting out a live album came about because we thought that would be a good way that year after year after year we could keep bringing in funds to help this community because it's going to be a really long road ahead. you know, there's a lot of rebuilding to be done. right now it's about feeding people and sheltering, and then it's going to be about the rebuild and making sure it's done in the way that that community wants to rebuild. that's where we're at right now. >> speaking of rebuilding, some residents say they've been targeted already with offers to buy their real estate, and many of these people have generational homes. it's the only place they know and love. the governor says he wants to keep the land in the hands of

local people. how would it reversibly change the island culture to lose all of that to outsiders? >> yeah, hawaii has a very complicated history, you know, and it's a place that i think a lot of people who live there maybe already felt a little bit like on the outside of the community, and so i think during this time, it's really important that we focus on those cultural, the hawaiian cultural aspects that are there. there's one group that we want to support through this, it's a hawaiian voyaging club. it's a group that's there that has one of the oldest existing hawaiian vessels or hawaiian sailing canoes in the world, but it burnt during the fires. one of them survived, and then one of the canoes burned. rebuilding things like that are going to be so important for the community. making sure they rally around cultural things that keep the heart of that community right there. and like you said, making sure

that families that lost everything have the chance to rebuild because it is unfortunately a time where people come in and see opportunity. >> a lot of experts and you've been an environmentalist, of course, so experts are warning they're raising red flags about the long-term environmental impact of the destroyed vegetation, the ash, the toxins in the water, even fighting ocean pollution for years. what are you most concerned about environmentally? >> there's so many things that i'm sure we could dig into. i think if i try to focus on the positive and the conversations that are happening about replanting what was there before the sugar cane industry, you know, all these -- all this beautiful agriforestry was burned down to make room for the sugar cane industry. so replanting bread fruit will be one of the main ways to get the soil back to a place your it is flourishing. so i know there's a lot of talks

about trying to revegetate with native trees, canoe plants, the traditional plants of the place and trying to do that as much as possible because it's a place that once was known, the name used to reflect that. it used to be known as the shade of the ulu tree and the hawaiian -- i don't want to mess it up on national tv, but it's -- i think it's ka ma lieu -- >> it sounds good to me. in terms of the actual damage, though, is it reversible in terms of all the -- i mean, there's been huge loss in terms of the vegetation. >> yeah, with time, i think, but like you said, it's -- i mean, that's -- we're all -- in listening to the community, we're also having to listen to what the experts are saying on the time line with that stuff, and it's not my expertise by in means. i think with time, yes, i think we can three heal. it's a resilient community that

wants to heal, so it's just giving the support, you know, just making sure we listen. and i think that speaking for the land, it would be the same thing, just giving it time, and then the community coming together to make sure to support the soil in a way of just replanting and doing that. but yeah, it will be time like you're mentioning. could be two years from now, but i think there's a lot of, you know, starting seeds and getting the plants ready to go on the ground will take years too, so i think that's part of it. >> we just have a few seconds, but tell me about the album. >> oh, it's ten songs, john cruz and paula fuga, a couple of my best friends, john cruz who's on the cover there, he lives on maui, paula spends a lot of time there as well. we all love maui, so came together to put this out. >> well, it's a wonderful, wonderful contribution, jack johnson. i'm sure that maui loves you and we thank you so much for being with us today. at least this is a positive way

of responding. thank you. and that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports" follow the show on social media @mitchellreports. "chris jansing reports" starts right now. good day, i'm chris jansing live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. the climactic end to an intense ly dramatic 14-day long manhunt, and the moment an entire community had been waiting and praying for. >> shortly after 8:00 a.m., our suspect was captured. >> our nightmare is finally over, and the good guys won. >> the words of the chester county d.a. this morning as residents there can finally exhale after a tactical team in camo armed with long guns and highly trained dogs captured escaped killer danelo cavalcante. we'll dig deep into those movie worthy details in just a minute.