they're trying to also deal with the demands from the union. >> the clock is ticking, jesse kirsch, thank you so much. that is going to do it for us this hour. make sure to join us for "chris jansing reports" every weekday 1:00 to 3:00 p.m. eastern right here on msnbc. our coverage continues with "katy tur reports" right now. ♪♪ good to be with you. i'm katy tur. what good did it do? yesterday speaker mccarthy called for an impeachment inquiry into president biden and now today he's delaying a rule vote on a relatively easy spending bill. the $826 billion defense bill as "politico" puts it is full of culture war that won't fly with president biden. this has become collateral damage as they hold out in the absence of steeper cuts in the overall government funding

process. in other words, hard liners in the house seem to be saying not good enough to mccarthy's attempt to woo them with a move against president biden. quote, i just find it very convenient that it comes out now in the very week that we return to washington, d.c., said republican matt rosendale to "politico." where does that leave speaker mccarthy and where does it leave the impeachment inquiry. after all, support for it isn't universal, among the gop conference, at least not yet. but most importantly, with ten working days left to fund the government or at the very least pass a continuing resolution, what exactly is the house doing, and under speaker mccarthy, what can they get done? joining us now is nbc news senior capitol hill correspondent garrett haake and punch bowl news cofounder and msnbc political contributor, jake sherman. i know there's so much talk about impeachment today, and it does obviously dove tail into this discussion about funding, but there are ten days left to keep the government lights on

and by the sound of what we're hearing from some people in the republican conference, garrett, it doesn't sound like there's a lot of urgency to keep them on. >> no, there's not, katy. i think your analysis there is spot on. but look, this funding bill that was going to go to the floor today is not going to be really a big piece of what actually does keep the government lights on. it was more of a marker that house republicans make to prove to senate democrats and republicans that they can pass anything without passing any appropriations bills. they are going to have a much weaker hand to play in the negotiations that will ultimately take place, either to keep the government funded for a few weeks, to hash out a longer term plan or the longer term plan itself. how many times have we been on this merry go round here. it's highly unlikely we're going to see the kind of urgency you might expect until we get closer to the deadline, and folks understand there are real consequences at play here. we are still very much in the position of posturing in these

discussions, at least in the house. >> jake, what do you think about what mccarthy is able to do here? >> nothing. he said in a closed conference meeting, a closed meeting of house republicans that republicans won't let him pass a short-term funding bill. they won't let him pass individual spending bills and they won't let him pass an omnibus, which is a bull that encapsulates 10 or 12 appropriations bills. he said, what do you want me to do. the answer is they don't want you to do anything besides shut down the government. this impeachment thing is widely seen among the thoughtful republicans as a complete waste of time. most republicans will freely admit that they don't have the evidence they say they do, and even if they did, of course, the senate would immediately dispense with this, and we would be back, you know, to normal business in, i guess, normal business, within due time. so here's the reality, katy, the government is going to probably, you know, i would give it 75 to

95% shut down the at end of the month. why do we know that, mccarthy can't do a thing. can't do anything, he's completely paralyzed by his conference and then where do you go. this entire fall he'll be wrestling with the question. not only does government funding run out. the faa needs to be reauthorized and the farm bill which seems hoeky, it's not. a huge thing for congress to do. that expires at the end of the month. pandemic policy, we just got out of a pandemic. it would be cool to have pandemic policy in this country, expires at the end of the month. it is a complete and utter mess, here with ten legislative days, now 16 and change days until the government shuts down, and by the way, mccarthy has no idea how he's going to get out of this. here's ham strung by the right wing of his conference, which basically wants him out and doesn't want him to do anything. >> let's go back to what enabled

him to get that position, which was the negotiation, garrett, to allow one person in the house to say i don't want you there any longer, and because of that, it's not as if he can easily go to democrats, and say, hey, let's find some resolution here, let's work like they do in the senate to get the lights on. if he does that, tell me if i'm wrong about this, he's going to have not just one but a host of republicans who say we're done with him. >> it's a series of decisions that have put mccarthy in this place, including the one you mentioned, the motion to get rid of him, one when he was running for speaker and the deal he made on the debt ceiling, which lost him a lot of trust he had built with the far right. members like chip roy who were in the room for the early conversations and realized mccarthy was going much further with the white house than they were willing to go. ultimately they backed away from the deal. he lost the trust. he doesn't have a big net here. and there's an immediate

opportunity to remove him. all of those things are working against him. the one thing that's working for mccarthy in all of this, and it's kind of a ridiculous situation to be in, there's not really another option. mccarthy could, you know, you could argue they could oust mccarthy if he works with democrats, and doesn't get the job done. the rebels, the far right republicans who don't like mccarthy don't have another consensus option, who can get 2018 votes in the house. other members of leadership who have different issues with factions in the party. there's not a free caucus member who could do it. if you got rid of mccarthy, you could find yourself into a situation where you back into a speaker jeffries by a mathematical accident or the house equivalent of dissolving parliament. you don't have a house because they're not able to agree on something. that fact alone helps recollect mccarthy because it's sort of widely understood there's not somebody else who could step into the job and come up with

solutions that have alluded this speaker until now. >> we have been having this conversation over and over again in different scenarios, the conversation about the debt ceiling, and mccarthy was able to wiggle out of that, just the same as he was able to wiggle his way into the speakership. is there wiggle room that we're going to see at the 11th hour? does this time feel different, jake? >> it doesn't feel different. there probably is wiggle room at the 11th hour, and that is let's pass a short-term funding bill that allows us to keep going and keep negotiating to the extent they are negotiating until november 15th. here's the reality that mccarthy faces, katy, the right believes and they say this, if you only hold out for long enough, you will get the other side to cave. we have years of evidence, now, that that's complete nonsense. there's no reason that joe biden is going to accept a whole host of republican provisions, especially when he has house democrats, senate democrats and

senate republicans on his side. mccarthy and house republicans are on an island, and if they don't see that by now, they're not operating in reality. now, all of that being said, if they were smart here, there is a deal they could have that includes a border security element with a full-year funding package. there are democrats who tell us all the time we want to do more on the border. that is something that's doable. unfortunately what the far right and freedom caucus, they're not conservatives necessarily, but what the freedom caucus wants is capitulation from democrats and things that are not achievable. if you want something that's not achievable, you're wasting our time. the scary thing, katy, one more thing, if the government shuts down, there's one discreet item that everybody wants that will get them out of the shutdown. i don't know what that item is. it used took obamacare and the border wall. i don't know what that is. it changes every day.

this is not heading for a good space if you want a september and october free of drama. >> let's talk about the other big news on the hill, and that is the news that senator mitt romney is not going to seek a second term. in his announcement, he talked about how he's going to be up there in age, and it's time to pass on the baton to new leadership, and pointedly called out both former president donald trump and current president joe biden. >> that's right. romney is 76. he says in his video message here announcing this decision that he doesn't want to be in his mid-80s when he retires, and he thinks it's time for new leadership. he goes on to say he doesn't think biden has the willingness and trump the willingness and ability to make some of the big decisions that need to be made in the future to protect the future for his children, grandchildren, and so forth. he talks about having, you know had a very productive term in the senate. certainly he was a pivotal figure on every major issue that came through the senate as kind of a swing vote between the

parties. the only republican to have voted for both of donald trump's impeachments. he became kind of the conscientious of the old school republican pre-trump party in his term at the senate, and now he's going to go home, and i suspect get very bored for the first time in a long time, not with a major public service job or seeking one. >> who replaces, him, garrett? >> there's a primary underway in utah. a maga candidate who's a mayor of a town in utah, trying to scare up the support of donald trump and his allies. the speaker of the house indicating he might get into the race if romney decided not to seek election. i expect that will be the start of the contours there. utah, a safe republican state obviously. it was very safe if romney had made his way through the primary. i don't know if democrats would have fielded a serious candidate against him. the primary will be the show to watch in utah going forward. >> garrett haake, jake sherman, gentlemen, thank you very much. turning now to fulton

county, d.a. fani willis reiterated again that she does want to try all 19 codefendants at the same time. in a new filing, she argued that breaking the case up would create, quote, enormous strain on her office. with october 23rd, the trial courage scheduled with two codefendants out there, and it's coming up fast, what is judge mcafee going to do? joining us now is nbc news legal analyst and former federal prosecutor paul butler. she wants all 19 there. judge mcafee has said in a televised hearing, we all watched him, that logistically that sounds insane. he didn't use the word insane, but his tone of voice seemed to imply it. is there any way that fani willis is going to get this, and if not, why is she still continuing to say this is what she needs. >> he didn't say, but the judge meant insane. it's unlikely that all 19 defendants would be tried this

year or even next year. the case is too complicated and the defendants would have legitimate claims about lack of due process or ineffective assistance of con sol. if they're forced to go to trial until the next few months. i think willis has strategic and efficiency concerns about too many trial dates, just the witnesses and the evidence are going to be the same at all the trials. the d.a. says people who get later trial dates will have an unfair advantage. they will have seen all of the evidence from the early trials. >> october 23rd, are you anticipating we just see sidney powell and kenneth chesebro there or are you thinking we're going to get a couple of other defendants. donald trump has made a motion to sever, saying he's waving his right for a speedy trial. mark meadows said the exact same thing. >> yeah, so probably just those two, chesebro and powell in late

october. the judge will try to get defendants who don't want to go to trial this year to waive their right to a speedy trial, and the defendants, though, as a matter of strategy will seek different trial dates to try to force the prosecutors to hold several different trials. it's a difficult courtroom management issue for the judge. and it's a predictable problem in a case with 19 defendants. >> 19 defendants. the judge said just think of all of the side bars. just think of all the objections that would get raised with 19 different lawyers. just consider the jury selection. he said four months to do all of that was probably not realistic. thank you so much, paul butler, for joining us. i appreciate it as always. we're going to talk about this many many more times in the future. coming up next, thermal heat technology and a border patrol

dog, what it took to capture escaped killer, danelo cavalcante after two weeks on the run. plus, you got a 40% raise so we should get a 40% raise, what the uaw is demanding and what the big three auto makers might concede and what could be be one of the biggest and most costly strikes in u.s. auto history. and the biggest names in tech spent the day meeting with senators on capitol hill. what were they staying that needed to be behind closed doors? we're back in 60 seconds. back is from vicks. just sinex, breathe, ahhhh! what is — wow! sinex. breathe. ahhhhhh!

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immediately moved in. >> pennsylvania police described a series of events that led to the recapture of escaped murderer danelo cavalcante. cavalcante who was convicted to life for killing his ex-girlfriend in front of her children. joining us from south coventry township where cavalcante was captured, nbc news correspondent trymaine lee. that part of the news conference caught my attention. who did they believe was trying to help him, and how were they able to stop that person? >> reporter: katy, they haven't given much details about who actually tried to render some aid to cavalcante. we have seen from some of the video released via ring cameras, they captured cavalcante, his sister is also now facing deportation, contacted by i.c.e. over the weekend, after her

refusal to help him. it's unclear if he was trying to aid in the continued escape. she does face deportation. that's one of the big questions. we know someone was willing to give him aid. authorities were able to stop them before it happened. it's not clear who those people were. >> so what happens to him now? >> reporter: right now he's been in a state facility. he has been questioned. they brought an interpreter to engage with him. soon after he'll be transported to a state facility, that will be much more secure than the county jail he escaped from two weeks ago. >> this was a 12-day affair where he was on the run. police were looking for him. 500 officers and search teams, assisted by dhs and the fbi, what sort of reckoning does this department say it's going to be doing, not just of the escape itself but the ability to track the man down in what they believe was not a cordoned off section but they had an idea of

where he was, are they going to be doing a little soul searching about their abilities? >> reporter: you know what's interesting, when law enforcement was questioned about that today, they stayed and remained pretty resolute. this was the outcome they were after all along. people certainly in this community and all over the country felt that the pace of the actual capture was taking too long for comfort, they said all along we're going to wear them out. and lieutenant colonel bivens said he wasn't necessarily skilled. he was desperate. it's easy to be hyperbolic and talk about the nightmare being over and a community having a sigh of relief. there's one family in particular feeling extremely relieved, the family of his murdered ex-girlfriend who live in this community, who say they feared for their lives as this killer who is suspected of murdering someone in brazil is still on the loose. the chester county district attorney said the very first call they made was to that

family. let's take a listen. >> one of the first calls we made upon learning about this capture was to the brandough family who had been living in a complete nightmare. they are so grateful to the men and women who helped with the capture. they can now finally sleep again. i can't thank law enforcement enough for their efforts. >> reporter: certainly there are a number of institutions that will have to put that mirror in front of their face to check out how they might have helped things go wrong, and shimmying up a wall and escaping and for two weeks, evading capture, this moment right now, this community and that family, they are finally waking up from a nightmare. >> trymaine lee, thank you very much. and still ahead, what kim jong un stands to gain if he provides military support in his war with ukraine. first up, though, what the auto workers are demanding and what the car makers can actually

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tell you, there's a new day in this union, and it's time to end corporate greed. >> courtesy of the daily yesterday, that is shaun feign, the first democratically elected president of the united auto workers, laying down his union's line, if you make more money we should too, he's saying. you big three ceos got a 40% raise, so we the workers should get a 40% raise. the uaw's demands are high and as of now, it does not look like there will be a deal with ford, stellantis and gm. the negotiations are stalled, and if something doesn't happen before midnight tomorrow, 146,000 auto workers will go on strike. joining us now from dearborn, michigan, is nbc news correspondent jesse kirsch. you're with a number of the united auto workers, getting ready clearly, making signs, talk to me about what some of the big three auto makers are saying. >> yeah, and by the way, katy, what we're looking at here is

signs that say uaw on strike. this is preparations for a potential strike, looking at the big 3, gm, stellantis, and ford. this is something that is just about 30 plus hours away at this point. about 33 hours from now is the deadline between the union and the three auto makers, that's when the contract expires. the latest we have in terms of auto makers offers is from ford. we spoke with the ceo last night at an event where they were debuting a new truck. a lot of buzz is about what's going on behind the scenes with the company right now, and the ceo called this, quote, the most generous offer in 80 years of the uaw and ford. this is going to include pay increases, five weeks of vacation. obviously that is not enough because negotiations are ongoing. we haven't heard more today from gm or stellantis on their latest offers and we're expecting an update from the union later today but something that we know

is a place that ford, at least, is drawing a line in the sand is the union's demand for a 32 hour workweek, but with 40 hours of pay. here's part of what the ceo said last night when he was discussing that. >> a four-day workweek was not containable. we're fighting for the future of automotive manufacturing in the country, but we're optimistic we'll find a way forward. we have 48 hours to go. but we're not going to support a four-day workweek. >> reporter: jim farley talking about fighting for the future of the industry, referring to the fact that everything is moving toward electric vehicles and the big three have talked about wanting to spend money on investing in that future, building things like battery plants, the new technology, figuring out how they can make that a profitable type of vehicle as well. so that put pressure on the companies. the other thing to keep in mind is u.s. auto makers have union

labor. there are other competitors, including tesla and foreign automakers do not. they pay less per hour for u.s. auto makers, a lot of pressure on the company and the union as well. we're waiting to see what would happen if something would happen. >> and they have history to say last time we were competing with non-unionized employees and paying a ton in labor, because union employees were making so much. we were having a big problem, weren't coming up with anything good, we were on the verge of bankruptcy. that's their argument. i want to get the worker's argument. jesse kirsch, thank you so much. joining us is brian rothenberg, so the union is saying, if i have it right, and you can tell me if i'm wrong, 15 years ago, the union workers conceded a whole lot to the big three auto makers to keep them afloat. they said, we will give you back a lot of these things that we had in our contracts, a lot of promises we had. health care, et cetera, in our contracts, in order to make sure

you still survive. now, 15 years later after record profits, the union is saying we want a piece of that. we feel like we should be rewarded for working, number one, and two, supporting the companies when they needed it most. >> absolutely, and, you know, what happened is when the downturn happened when the bankruptcy happens, and they had to come out of bankruptcy, during the 2011 negotiations under former president bob king, there were a lot of concessions, there's where two tier came from. >> two tier saying that basically the veteran auto workers, union workers were making, what $28 an hour, and then the newcomers were coming in at 15. >> at 15, and when i started at the uaw as spokesperson, i was there eight years, there was no path. you were at that $15 increment, and you had no way to get to $28. in the 2015 contract, it started to inch up and there was a path for those people who were

full-time workers to be able to get up to the same wage as those other workers that had been pre-2008, and then in the 29 contract, they had a grow-in period for most temps, not all, to be able to move into a full-time pay, but that would take seven years. so these are a lot of old wounds they're trying to work through. >> and the current uaw president, first democratically elected, is the first one who has been super combative, he's got a populist argument, making a ton of money, we've got 40% wage increases, now they're asking for 36%. there's a note that with all the record profits, you have stock buybacks for at least two of the major companies, gm, $3.3 billion, ford, $484 million. stellantis, just announced their first buy back of 1.6 billion to

be bought back this year. they do argue that a lot of the money that they need right now has to go to development. they have to compete with tesla and other electric vehicle makers. the technology is rapid, and it's going to cost a lot of money to stay in front of that. the workers are going to look at that and say, listen, that's also padding a lot of your wallets, the shareholders. what about us? >> the profits, katy, definitely so, that they're doing things in a profitable way. and, yes, the situation here is one in which they're already moving because this has been such a public negotiation. there will be -- it was always going to be a better pay, better situation in terms of closing that gap. the question is, because of this profit if there's ever that time to really catch up, it would be right now. now, the difference that you're seeing right now is that the

administration is bargaining publicly. that's a new type of bargaining strategy. the teamsters did it too, and, you know, it's like when you have a pot of soup and it boils early, you got to keep it from boiling over, and both the companies started responding the same way, and bargaining publicly, so it sounds more heated. that stuff always went on behind the scenes at the table. we're just seeing it now, you know. and you're seeing how that soup and all the ingredients are coming in there. >> where do you think auto makers can make concessions? >> so i think the auto makers are going to, no matter what, make concessions on the grow-in period, they're going to have to. right now, i think ford has already gone down a couple of years. but i think they're probably going to make even more concessions there. the question because of the way inflation is are they going to do it by a formula or a one-time thing. you know, the sticking points

that are going to be hard are going to a traditional pension plan, which absolutely, i totally think the brothers and sisters that work in these plants are really suffering compared to people pre-2008 when it comes to retirement. i think they might put more money into it. i don't know that they're going to go to a defined benefit retirement system. the 32-hour workweek is aspirational. that's kind of what walter ruther did. it's what the uaw always has done. if it doesn't happen now, you don't know when it will happen. walter ruther came up with profit sharing, and people laughed at him, now people get profit sharing. >> that 32-hour workweek, four-day workweek is aspirational for us all. i would like that as well. thank you so much for joining us, i appreciate it. we're going to watch this again, strike tomorrow midnight if a deal is not reached.

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armored train after meeting with vladimir putin overnight. the meeting surrounded putin's need for weapons support. what exactly did kim jong un get out of it. joining us now is chief foreign correspondent richard engel. should i take it that kim jong un wants to go to the moon? >> reporter: i don't think he wants to go to the moon, but i think he definitely wants help his intercontinental ballistic missiles because space program is really code for missile program. if you can launch a satellite accurately up into space without damaging t well, then you can also deliver a nuclear payload around the world. so this cooperation that vladimir putin was offering today, saying, hey, i can help you with your space program, while touring him around the russian latest and greatest space port, is certainly something appealing for kim jong un who has had two unsuccessful launches of satellites on very

large intercontinental ballistic missiles recently, so this is a potential big boost. but you also can't just look at this as a strictly quid pro quo relationship between russia and north korea. china is a major factor in all of this, so what we're seeing is a three-way relationship with russia becoming increasingly dependent on china for economic support, increasingly dependent on north korea, to china, and china able to manage this role and potentially benefit from both with north korea dependent on it, and russia increasingly dependent on china. we're seeing a three-way alliance with, i think, china emerging as the strongest partner. >> the u.s. has said outloud, dear, north korea, we don't think this is a good idea you working with russia, beyond that, what sort of leverage do they have over kim jong un

saying don't work with vladimir putin, and then frankly, if this is about intercontinental ballistic missiles, do we have any negotiating moves with russia to say this is not a great idea to give them that sort of power? >> reporter: well, north korea already has intercontinental ballistic missiles. intercontinental ballistic missiles which can reach anywhere currently in the continental united states. the idea is to make them smaller, better, faster, more effective, and russia has hyper sonic missiles, which are extraordinarily fast, although some have been shot down over ukraine. so, no, to answer your question, in a simple way, the u.s. does not have a lot of leverage over north korea. north korea has already sanctioned pretty much as far as you can go. so is russia. so the two countries are finding each other, and many finding each other are finding ways out of sanctions and particularly when they have china right next door at the center of all of

this, you have this three-way military political and economic block in asia that we haven't seen historically because china and the soviet union were traditionally allies but really more rivals than anything else. >> some might worry, pushed together. richard engel, thank you very much. coming up next, anger, frustration, and desperation, what residents in morocco's villages, decimated by the earthquake are feeling as relief efforts slowly come in. s relief efforts slowly come in but it does so much more. this thing shows you your fico® score, you can get your credit card recommendations, and it shows you ways to save money. do so much more than get your fico® score. download the experian app now.

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quote, bodies are everywhere. they're inside houses, in the streets, at sea, wherever you go, you find dead men, women and children. that is what an aide worker told the associated press about the scope of the devastation n derna, libya, a town all but washed away after two dams broke during a big mediterranean storm. communications networks are coming back online in the area, which is giving us our first real look at how bad it is, and it is bad. officials say at least 6,000 people are presumed dead. tens of thousands have been displaced, and it's unclear how much help can actually get there. as libya's decades long political divisions are complicating efforts and rescue and aid efforts. joining us now is nbc news foreign correspondent, josh

lederman. can we start there? i know there have been a lot of countries that have offered help. are they all able to do so? >> reporter: well, it's been about three days since the storm hit libya, and some of that aid and rescue effort is now getting to libya, but not all of it is makes it way quickly to the areas that are the most affected. a lot of these regional nations like qatar where i am, are sending it to benghazi, a city that most of us remember from that 2012 attack that killed four americans. benghazi is about 150 miles from derna, the hardest hit city, and it's in the eastern part of the country, controlled by a government and armed force that the u.s. and the u.n. don't even recognize. and so that is really complicating efforts to coordinate the fast delivery of body bags, of nurses and doctors, of food and hygiene supplies that are so direly needed, and the more aid that

gets in there, and the more workers who arrive, the more we are learning just about the scope of this catastrophe. we heard from one person who said that 50 members of his family are now gone, either dead or missing. it is a crisis that is growing by the day. katy. >> the imagesmissing. >> the images are so incredible and awful to watch and look at. josh, thank you very much. staying in north africa, rescue operations are ongoing in morocco in the aftermath of the 6.8 earthquake. at least 5,530 have been injured. search teams from britain, spain and qatar are now on the ground helping the moroccan military in the mountain where is they have to hike up mountainsides.

supplies are being delivered by hand. >> our friends and family, we lost everything. we don't have a place to live anymore. we need help. >> matt, what is it like there? >> reporter: yeah, even up in the mountains over the past several days, the situation there is very bad and seems to be getting worse. hope is dwindling for the survivors. the focus is turning to the survivors who are living in tents, and there is a lot of palpable anger at the lack of a government presence. these are remote villages. a lot of them now are wondering where is the military and where is the aid. we spoke with one man and here is what he had to say.

each one has four families? >> four families. >> where do the tents come from? >> just the people. organizations. >> reporter: just organizations, not from the government. >> no. this is one. four families. >> reporter: four families in the tent. there is no privacy. >> no. you have no place. no toilets. >> reporter: no place to sleep. as you can see the situation is bad and could be getting worse as the rains fall. my colleague josh lederman who was just talking about what is

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be jumping into the deep end and making the rules. it starts with the insight -- >> elon musk and bill gates and mark zuckerberg are on capitol hill to give senators insight on artificial intelligence and part of action to regulate ai. not in the room the researchers and watch dogs who are outspoken on the dangers and also in the room, you or me as neither reporters or the public were inside after the initial picture taking. joining us now is jacob ward. why did it have to be behind closed-doors? >> presumably was a condition that all of the ceos wanted met in order to be there. this is an extremely sensitive

topic and we don't see folks of this level gathering together. i would assume it has to do with that. i found it interesting how quickly tech ceos seemed to be getting their feelings across to lawmakers. we heard from chuck schumer saying he felt if regulation moved too quickly it could ruin things. >> if you go too fast you can ruin things. the eu went too fast. on a timeline, it can't be days or weeks nor should be it be years but in the general category of months. >> they want to maximize profit. but it tends to be short-term profit. maybe a year. if we wanted to do good by

people and social good and do things well we have to look at long-term horizons. >> it seems that the tech ceos would like to be able to move fast and that regulation should not slow them down. >> that will do it for me today. "deadline white house" starts right now. ♪ ♪ hi everyone. it is 4:00 in new york. the fulton county d.a. is representing an unprecedented set of facts, plot to overturn a presidential election and group of defendants including an ex defendant, chief of staff and prominent allies and