>> and jay-z did say, bleek, i never cry, if i did i would cry ice. there's the rice. >> it's a fact. >> it's a fact, jason. >> i like this duo, i like this collab. i appreciate both of you so much. both of you have contributed to our culture, our understanding. thanks, you guys. >> thank you for having us. johnson, my guy. >> respect. my guy. shout out to them and babs. that does it for us. "the reidout" starts now. tonight on "the reidout" -- >> well, there's no question but the republican party today is in the shadow of donald trump. he is the leader of the greatest portion of the republican party. it's a populist, i believe, demagogue portion of the party. >> if you don't have a maga

loyalty card, you are soon thon outside looking in. mitt romney just the latest old school republican to announce he's had enough. he says a very large portion of his caucus doesn't even believe in the constitution. i'll talk to former longtime republican presidential strategist steve schmidt in just a moment. also tonight, the fulton county judge agrees to sever two of the 19 codefendants' cases, as the number of violent threats grows against officials in that county, and against federal law enforcement. plus, the politics of impeachment. kevin mccarthy is doing what he thinks he has to do to hang on to his flailing speakership. as president biden goes about his business, looking like the only adult in the room. and we begin tonight with one of the oldest established rights in american law. the right to a speedy trial. it is the first right listed in the sixth amendment, but its

origins go back to the magna carta, one of the most important documents in the history of democracy, written by a group of 13th century barrens to protect their rights and property against a tyrannical king. the magna carta declared in english spelled a little differently than today, we shall not deny or delay justice and right neither the end, which is justice nor the mean, whereby we may attain to the end, and that is the law. there been protecting the right of all free men to speedy disposition of trials. the right is a cornerstone of the judicial system, meaning a person cannot be held for an unreasonable amount of time awaiting trial. it's a fundamental constitutional right that impacts a modern day criminal case that could help preserve the very principles the magna carta established more than 800 years ago. and that is the georgia election interference case. today, fulton county judge scott mcafee ruled that donald trump

and 16 other codefendants will be tried separately from trump's former attorneys, sidney powell and kenneth chesebro. chesebro and powell requested speedy trials, while their other codefendants did not. they are set to be tried starting october 23rd. the ruling handed a defeat to fulton county d.a. fani willis, who argued for trying all 19 defendants together, and who said she was ready to begin next month. it also means trump likely will not face trial until next year. trump has waived his right to a speedy trial, choosing instead to benefit from delaying his day in court. as d.a. willis has noted, multiple drawn-out trials will create an enormous strain on the courts and her office, and give defendants who wait an advantage, and let's be clear, trump doesn't want to speed this up or simply create strategic delays. he never wants to go to trial at all. he wants to become president again, and fully execute his

autocratic dreams by maybe firing the federal prosecutors and pardoning himself or otherwise extinguishing the legal cases against him, even the state ones that he can't pardon his way out of, using intimidation and power of the presidency. donald trump is not a normal politician. he is a wanna be autocrat who is attacking american democracy at its core. he is not, however, the honey threat we face because his party, the maga faction, as well as the normies, even the ones running against him for president, are wholly consumed by his authoritarian outlook or too cowardly to do anything other than give in. while those who are not onboard are forced out and expelled. one of trump's obsessions besides overturning the will of american voters is ousting any official who dares to defend their oath to the constitution. trump sought revenge for republican liz cheney's vote to impeach him, and her work on the house committee investigating

him. leading to her losing her primary in wyoming to a trump-backed challenger. he sought revenge against those who dared to run a fair election, like republican rusty bowers, the arizona house speaker who stood up to trump's demand that he overturn arizona's election result. he paid the price, too. losing a bid for state senate seat to a trump-backed opponent. and today in wisconsin, the republican controlled senate voted to fire the state's elections chief, just months before the battleground state's presidential primary. this is republican extremism in the age of trump. as house speaker kevin mccarthy had to once again take the knee to maga lawmakers threatening to cast him out of the speakership. in a meeting that divolved into diraid of f-bombs and taunts. the disarray among house republicans is one reason utah senator mitt romney will not seek re-election. a sign of just how far his party

has fallen. mitt romney, the 2012 republican presidential standard bearer, the senator who voted twice to convict trump on impeachment charges, is now a part of the exodus. but not before spilling some serious tea and torching his party for pursuing power over the people. a very large portion of my party really doesn't believe in the constitution, romney told a writer. along with a chilling warning that authoritarianism is like a gargoyle lurking over the cathedral, ready to pounce. joining me now is steve schmidt, former republican strategist and founder of the warning newsletter podcast and youtube channel to which i subscribe. i recommend you do too. steve, good to see you. it's been too long, my friend. thank you so much for coming on. >> good to see you. >> so i feel like you're the perfect person to talk about this watching the people, the mitt romneys of the world sort

of walk away. this mckay coppins article is fascinating. romney talked about what shocked him when he got to the senate, that so many people there, all they care about is remaining in office and only secondarily about ideas and policy. is that the republican party you were familiar when you were working actively in it? >> no, of course not. but it is the republican party today. every single person i worked with in republican politics, with very, very few exceptions, all of them have taken a pass on the u.s. constitution. they have become faithless for it, those that remain in politics are part of the maga project, part of the trump project. and what the moment required were people to say no, never, never ever. i'm one of those people.

mitt romney was one of those people. it's a very small group of people. and at the end of the day, the most important thing about this moment to understand is the american way of life. forget politics. the american way of life, our civilization, is entirely dependent on an elections process. it is built around the election process. when you look at the civil rights movement, martin luther king was not someone from the french revolution. he wasn't trying to burn down the society to take from the oppressor. his proposition was very simple. the american way of life is dependent on this, right? the right to vote. this is how we apportion political power, temporarily

with tremendous constraints, with forever protections around the rights of the individual. there's no place to meet in the middle. there's no compromise route. if this collapses. and it has been a national emergency since 2015, the first time donald trump said he would not honor the results of a federal election. and as a result, seven years on, we have a whole society crisis because the way of life that is sustained by elections is the american system. it's the american way of life. so it's not possible to overstate the severity of this moment. >> you know, and january 6th was such a chilling moment i think for everyone, hopefully everyone, not everyone, some people kind of trying to justify it, but it really did sort of veer us into the kind of society

in which elections are maybe decided in the streets, which some people in this country seem to want it to be. i have to read you this text. a text from mitt romney to mitch mcconnell. he sent this on january 2nd, about his concerns that angus king, his fellow senator, had asked please call me. he calls him and then he sends this text, romney does to mitch mcconnell. in case you have not heard this, i got a call from angus king who said he had spoken with a senior official at the pentagon who reports they're seeing disturbing social media traffic regarding the protest on the 6th. they're planning to burn your home to storm the capitol. i hope sufficient security plans are in place, but i'm concerned the instigator, the president, is the one who commands the re-enforcements the d.c. and capitol police might require. mcconnell never responds. we have some video of what happened with mitt romney on that day, when he was saved by

capitol police as they helped him run out of there. i think we have that video. what do you make of the fact that the leader of the senate at the time, mitch mcconnell, who appears a lot in this article, seemed completely unwilling to respond to the threat of trump, even when it meant a threat to his own members? >> historically, he will be remembered as a repugnant figure. the abduigation of his duty, the responsibility and the obligations are epic. so he received that email, which is chilling, from mitt romney. what did he do? he did what he has done for seven years. he did nothing. like a turtle, he tried to put his head in the sand. he's the living embodiment of john kennedy's admonition from his inaugural about those who seek power by trying to ride the back of the tiger only to wind

up inside. what mitch mcconnell's legacy is substantially is he is the man who broke the united states senate, which was once considered the greatest deliberative body in the world. you have a storm system of cynicism, of cowardice, of racial malice, that all combines to form under donald trump and has now threatened the cornerstone of the whole society, which is who gets to decide who's in power in the country. is it something that's bestowed by the american people, or is it something that is taken? or something that is taken by the richest, the strongest, and the most powerful? this is an existential question. >> you know, i'm struck, you know, just reading, not just

mitt romney, but other republicans who talk about what people tell them when no one is around, and how many republicans actually despise donald trump, but they'll whisper to mitt romney, boy, you're lucky. you come from a state where you can get re-elected. and i think about the fact they had a chance to end this nightmare for themselves twice, with two impeachments. the first impeachment only mitt romney was willing to vote to convict donald trump in the impeachment for trying to strong arm ukraine. the second time, seven republicans voted, burr, cassidy, collins, murkowski, sasse and toomey. three did their vote and then they retired. they weren't willing to stay and fight. you have been -- i'm sure you're still in touch with some members of your party. if they can't get rid of him after he does an insurrection, if they can't stop him from being president again, how does the republican party get rescued or does it? >> it doesn't get rescued, and it's a much broader question

right now. and the crisis is worsened. and joe scarborough addressed this the other day on msnbc's air. it's both parties on a fundamental question, which is this. there are no people in the republican party who when the cameras were off formany years praised donald trump. that's for tv. that's for the show. now, democrats, there's not a one of them who you have a private conversation with who is not extremely worried bordering on panic about president biden's ability to make it through this election and to win in the election. and as soon as the cameras go on, they sing a different tune. so the american people see this. there's a conversation that's held by the elites of the country that projects over the whole of the media that they're not in the room for.

they're not part of, but they get it completely. how does that cynicism that results from that, who benefits from that? the people who benefit from that are the demagogues and the autocrats. it's the trump movement that flourishes in the bs environment. so the republican party is lock, stock, and barrel controlled by the greatest threat to freedom in america since the confederate states of america. and seven years on, the pro-democracy party in the country has been unable to put it down. unable to do it. so right now, give them a break in '22 or '21 or '20, but in 2023, if this election were held tomorrow, it's a jump ball. all over the country. and nobody should underestimate

the capacity of donald trump to win a general election in 2024. and everybody should understand the plans are laid down in writing and are openly talked about, about how to dismantle the federal government within five to six months. the clairemont institute is at the center of it. there are extremist groups who are planning for it. and when you look at this in the totality, the removal of a supreme court justice by impeachment in wisconsin is part of january 6th. the impeachment that is being orchestrated without any evidence whatsoever by donald trump is part of january 6th. each action is part of a greater whole. and the greater whole is a sustained attack on the american way of life, elections process,

and democracy by a malevolence that has always existed in the country but has manifested itself wholly inside the republican party. and the only institution in this country that has the ability to defeat it, that can defeat it, that exists to oppose this, is the democratic party. and any fair evaluation of how the party is doing as an institution confronting this, my judgment is not good. because the extremism and the threat of it has grown with each successive year. and the next election stands a chance to be america's last election if the ball bounces the wrong way. anybody who thinks that donald trump and this extremist movement will be an easy campaign to win is completely

deluded. the idea that you occasionally read from anonymous white house sources that in fact they want trump to be the republican nominee because they assess him as the easiest candidate to beat is immoral in my estimation. and a sign of judgment that is so epically bad, i don't have a word for it. >> well, i hope that you will make more time to come back. we're out of time, but i would love for you to come back so we can dig into this more. the clairemont institute piece is really important. we talked about it a bit on the show, but we're going to talk about it a lot more. steve schmidt, good to see you. thank you for making the time. up next on "the reidout," the fbi investigates more violent threats against georgia officials, as trump supporters try in vain to derail these lawful prosecutions. "the reidout" continues after this. inues after this d older. it's not just a cold.

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today, hunter biden was indicted on three counts related to lying about his drug use while buying a gun. just look at how outraged the nra and all the other second amendment gun loving republicans are about these charges. roll the tapes. wait, we don't -- sorry? oh, what's that? oh, right. okay. there aren't any tapes. they don't exist. well, i'm sure they'll come rushing to his defense any moment now. >> in the meantime, new reporting today from nbc news

shows that prosecutors and fbi agents involved in the hunter biden investigation have been the targets of threats and harassment by people who think they haven't been tough enough on the president's son to the point where the fbi is creating a stand-alone unit to investigate and mitigate those threats. it's the latest example of a trend we have seen for years but this abuse is typically aimed at any prosecutor, fbi agent, or judge who dares to participate in holding the ex-president accountable. fani willis, for example, has been candid about the vile and racist harassment she received ahead of her decision to bring charges against trump, as has the sheriff who booked him. today, the fbi confirmed they're responding to threats made against fulton county officials. joining me is our friend glenn kirschner, msnbc legal analyst and host of the justice matters podcast. talk about these threats. i suppose at some level that is

not atypical for people in the law enforcement world, but or is it? because it seems like it's really extreme when it comes to trump. >> you know, joy, i think it is somewhat atypical. yes, prosecutors, police officers, fbi agents are the subject of threats from time to time. but given the reporting about the increase, the acceleration of these threats, it seems pretty clear that there is a cause and effect. if you don't like the fact that donald trump is being investigated for his crimes, you investigate the investigators. you threaten the investigators. you go after the prosecutors, the judges, the witnesses, or the jurors, or grand jurors. and you know, when the republicans, you know, are engaged in these ridiculous cries to defund the fbi, their claims that the department of

justice is being weaponized, i don't know if joe biden has weaponized the department of justice against his own son. feels a little odd. but you know, they know, they know, joy, that their supporters will respond in almost pavlovian fashion, they will salivate, they will lash out. they will threaten the fbi and the prosecutors and others. and i think at its core, the reason we see this, and the reason it's on the rise is because nobody has tried to hold the republicans accountable for these dangerous lies. these lies that are clearly likely to incite violence, and unless and until law enforcement begins to hold them accountable, then you're not going to be able to tamp down what their supporters are doing. >> and let me roll back a little bit. i'm doing to reel back the tape to part of what you said, biden has not weaponized the justice

department against his own son. i think that's obvious, but it strikes me, everything i have read tells me what's happening with hunter biden is unusual. let me read you a couple things. this is from "the washington post." about lying on a form when you buy a gun. according to justice department records, the odds of being charged for lying on this form are virtually nonexistent. in the 2019 fiscal year when hunter biden purchased his gun, federal prosecutors received 478 referrals for lying on the form. and filed just 298 cases. that's out of approximately 27 million background checks undertaken in a 12-month period. the particular gun charge the feds broad against biden is rarely brought as a stand-alone crime. when the feds bring this type of case, they come down hard, but it's usually a tool they use to bring down tough to prosecute. >> have you ever brought a

charge like this for someone saying they didn't use drugs and it turns out they used drugs? >> never, i had a hard time convincing my superiors to bring even more significant firearms charges. let me use an example. when a felon is in unlawful possession of a firearm, it's what we call a 922-g crime. it is a more significant crime that somebody who misrepresents on a firearms purchase form that they are a user or addicted to a narcotic stimul nlt or other drug. how many times do you think people fudged their answers on those firearms purchase forms? i had a hard time even persuading my superiors at the department of justice to bring more serious gun charges. we see these kind of relatively minor crimes when it comes to misreporting on firearms purchase forms only when they're tacked on to more significant

crimes like somebody who did this then went out and used that firearm and shot somebody. maybe they would batch a series of crimes together, including a violation of 4373 form. but you know, we do not typically bring these in stand-alone fashion. i have said before, if hunter's last name wasn't biden, i think it very unlikely these charges would have been brought. >> yeah, that seems likely. let's talk about this split case. so now, you're going to have chesebro and powell separate. what are the implications of having them have a trial first? i'm kind of glad their trials are going to happen this year because people will be able to see what is the case against trump. what do you think? >> there's an upside and a downside. trump and all of the other codefendants will have an opportunity to preview d.a. willis' case. i have been involved in a series of rico prosecutions against one gang, but so many defendants we had to break it up into three

trials. i saw the defense attorney sitting in the courtroom watching us present our case so they could take advantage of the weak spots. so that is on the upside for trump and the rest of the defendants. but there's a huge downside, joy. there will only be two defendants in there, and defense attorneys representing those two defendants, chesebro and powell, and you know what those defense attorneys will do? they will attack the evidence only as it implicated, directly implicated chesebro and powell, but fani willis will represent the entire case, including the crimes against donald trump. but that evidence will go unanswered because donald trump will not have a voice in the proceeding. so all of that incriminating evidence against donald trump and rudy giuliani and mark meadows and jeffrey clark and the others will pour in, and it will be largely unchallenged, and because the trial is being televised and livestreamed, this is one where the court of public opinion will not be won by donald trump. >> and you know who is watching it? me, and a lot of other people. i'm definitely going to watch.

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i call it the incredibly shrinking speakership. at some point you have to say, why do i want to be speaker? if your members have the confidence you are the person to do the job, then at some point, there's a decision that has to be made. the decision was made in favor of the fringe, and that's what we're living with now. >> speaker emeritus nancy pelosi on the disaster that is speaker kevin mccarthy's republican caucus just days after he gave in to the maga fringe bine opening an impeachment inquiry into president biden. it got mccarthy a whole lot of nothing since he's now in a slap fight with matt gaetz who threatened him with a daily attempt to remove him a speaker, known as a motion to vacate. two sources told nbc news in a closed door meeting of house republicans this morning, mccarthy said, file the f'ing motion if they want him out as speaker. in the midst of all the fighting, congress still has to

fund the government. they'll leave for a holiday break without doing that. in the meantime, the drama re-enforces that president biden is the actual adult in the room. he addressed the impeachment inquiry for the first time on wednesday, shrugging off the republicans' evidence-free impeachment, saying quote, i have a job do. adding, they just knew they wanted to impeach now. now, the best i can tell, they want to impeach me because they want to shut down the government. joining me is jen psaki, host of inside with jen psaki, which will follow this show on monday nights beginning september 25th. in addition to her current time slot on sundays at noon. and cornell belcher, democratic pollster, strategist, and msnbc analyst. congratulations. >> thank you. >> we're going to be neighbors. >> we are neighbors. >> now we're on air as well. congratulations. let me read you, this is fun. let me read you -- >> so much to read and show. >> this is their first day of their impeachment inquiry. the house republicans made no

new requests for documents. issued no new subpoenas, demanded no new testimony, and laid out no articles of impeachment. instead, they flocked to the cameras. they're just saying the word impeachment a lot. what is happening? >> what was very telling to me was the elise stefanik press conference because elise stefanik has become a strong maga advocate supporter, lots of ways to describe her. she's been talking to donald trump and giving him updates on the impeachment process. when she gave a press conference, she said, we expect to find -- they have been investigating for nine months. they have found nothing. because they're looking for things like joe biden's role in hunter biden's actions, which they have not found. and they expect that if they open this, they will find something more. that's not how an impeachment inquiry is supposed to work. it's quite telling on the purpose here. >> i think about the clinton impeachment. they wanted to impeach bill

clinton from the time he got into office. there were threats of doing it, a georgia congressman saying we're going to get him. they had the white water deal, but they didn't open the inquiry until they had a thing where they could say we're going to make you say did you have this affair, and then you have a thing. in this case, they're looking for the thing, which is like the opwrt. strategically for the biden administration, they're responding to it the same way, saying we have to do our jobs here. what do you make of the fact it's so thin it's not even an inquiry. >> it's really problematic for republicans. i look at it and say have they given up any hope they're going to retain the house? this is not how you retain the house. look, they ran on last time i checked, they ran on inflation was too high, something has to be done about inflation, and crime is out of control. joy, i haven't seen you cover any of their bills and their legislation about crime and inflation. >> what is crime andflation? >> because they haven't done it. they have done none of the

things the american people are most focused on and they're opening up an impeachment inquiry. that's not how you hold the house, especially with 12 or 13 republican members right now who sit in biden seats. >> you have a certain movement in the polls of people, they don't know anything about it, but they think somehow joe biden is involved in hunter biden's business. that's increased. >> the same thing they played out with fraud in the election. you say it enough times, so this is the theater. they will spend the next month saying fraud and ethics problems, and then at some point in a month or so, you'll look and people will say, well, i think there's fraud and ethics problems because they have been talking about it. >> like her emails, her emails. >> this is how they drive the conversation. when you ask them, there's no fraud or problems with the biden campaign. they'll say oh, well, lots of people think there's fraud with the biden campaign. this is how it plays out.

but agai -- >> i think comer led the committee that investigated biden. they know there's nothing, but i mean, i do think they're trying to her emails on biden. if they can trick us who do tv shows into having to say impeachment, impeachment, impeachment, they win. >> right, and as you were just saying, as cornell was saying, if you look at the recent polls and the white house is well aware of this, 48% in a recent poll of the american people think joe biden is corrupt. that is crazy. it's not that much higher. i think it's like 58% or a little higher depending who think donald trump is corrupt. he has been indicted in four different cases. >> found guilty for sexual abuse. >> a lot of this is create the confusion and smoky mirrors. this is, by the way, what authoritarian dictators do in countries like russia where they say we're just going to throw a lot of stuff out there and create confusion so it just evens it out and everybody is corrupt. that is where we need to pay

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. senator mitt romney said the modern republican party is a populist party led by a demagogue. he decided to exit the senate and see what happens next year. the choice in 2024 remains clear, between democracy and demagoguery. while the choice was clear for romney, it's not so clear for joe mention, according to "the washington post," manchin is struggling with his political future and considering three options. running for re-election in west virginia as an independent, running for president as a no labeled candidate like anybody is asking for that, and retiring from politics altogether. no labels of course being the shadowy nonprofit backed by conservative donors like clarence thomas' pal harlan crow and allen keen. they're selling themselves as a centrist party in a deeply tribalized party and they have hired a who's who to deliver

their message. no third party candidate has ever come close to winning, including theodore roosevelt. none has won a single elctoral vote since 1968. they would join cornel west and robert kennedy jr. in challenging biden. yesterday, kennedy threatened to run as an independent. back with me are jen psaki and cornell belcher. impact of these third party races? >> this is the only way donald trump wins. donald trump wins by substraction. we have seen now back to back cases, we know what his ceiling is, it's roughly 47%. go back to 2016. donald trump and most of the major battleground states except for maybe ohio, michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania, there's only 1.5 points difference between his performance winning and mitt romney's performance losing.

take a state like wisconsin when you have hillary clinton dramatically underperforming among younger voters. younger voters voting third party is almost exactly the margin she lost that state. that's true in wisconsin, also michigan, pennsylvania. this is how donald trump gets back into office with 47%. >> and i wonder how seriously the white house is taking his. you have people who are just mad at biden for being older. they want something younger. they want choices and alternatives. here a bunch of people are saying they're going to run and then you have no labels saying here we are too. how concerned should the white house be? >> you have to be concerned about everything if you're the white house, right? including the reality of how close this election is likely to be next november. that may bend a lot of people's brains. how could it be close with a guy who has been indicted four times? it's going to be close. it's a divided country. they have to take any element of any one or anything that is going to impact that seriously, including these third party candidates. even though they're unlikely to

get an electoral vote and ublikely to win, they have been spoilers in the past. there are people who wouldn't have been president without a third party candidate in the race, and that could be the case this time. >> talk to me about david ignatius. he's like a foreign policy writer but he comes out with a column saying biden should step aside and kick kamala harris off what is outlined and that comment, the right already, the conversation happening sometimes at dinner parties and places like washington and new york and l.a., san francisco. that's not an important. they are important people of those conversations. but those are not the competitions happening on college campuses and at kitchen tables across the country. and those are the people who are going to elect the next president. not the -- parties. if you talk to anybody, and cornell does focus groups all the time. working in the biden world's, the dnc, campaigns. the concern about kamala harris being on the ticket is not a real thing that comes up and

these focus groups. it's not in poland. it is a concern in the right wing and one that is repeated because, you know, democrats can often be concerned -- >> can i say one thing -- >> i think some of the soft bigotry is showing. i really do. i think you look at the way they've come after people of color. women always have to work harder than men, i don't have to tell you to that. but women of color and power, i think she is threatening. i think some of the soft bigotry, even -- >> i think in the critical point. i've had a lot of people text me this morning, hey, interesting, there is conflict is not taken. her house however folks -- listen to what a couple of actual young voters. >> are you concerned about voting for him at 80? >> i think that you have to look at it as the better of the two evils, honestly. i mean, considering right now with anybody that's and the

positions to make decisions and run, they are older. with him being older, just having someone as young and vibrant and passionate as madam vice president, she needs to be there. >> i completely agree. >> when real people get to talk -- >> that's my point. i hadn't even seen that clip. those young woman are talking about how when you go out and spend time on campaigns, that is how people talk. that's how people think about the choice you are facing. i also think, because this whole argument, and i'm not saying this is where they got it from, but at can in some ways from right-wing circles. and while they're saying when they say joe biden, if you elect joe biden, you're electing kamala harris. they are saying, he's senile, she's a black woman. that's what they are saying and that's what they're trying to get a certain part of the population to hear. >> by the way, shout out to hampton university. beautiful campus. i'm from right next door. >> a little bit of bias. >> a little bit of bias.

but this isn't by accident, right? when you look at what the biden harris ticket has got to do, she is the perfect person to start going out there. i think she's going to be out there with the entire month. >> yeah she's out in -- wisconsin -- >> -- 24 points last time. he's nowhere near that right now in the polls. if he comes there in the polls right now, he's going to be fine. this is very strategic. she's the best person out there. because you know, what look at young america, millennials, gen z. they are the most diverse group of americans ever. they connect with this woman of color. >> they do. >> they connect with this mixed race woman. and she's a young, powerful voice who they need to go other more. >> -- >> she did, she -- >> i was there. i don't know why -- okay, thank you friends. appreciate you. coming up, united auto workers prepare to strike his contract negotiations continue ahead of

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raise of us continue to get left further and further behind at the big three and beyond. >> that was united auto workers president sean faint making it clear of auto companies don't come to a fair agreement with workers by midnight tonight, unit members will go on strike. the first ever simultaneous strike against the big three automakers, general motors, for, and chrysler's parent company cilantro. the union is seeking a 46% wage hike over the next six years as well as cost of living increases and threat to do our work weeks. the company has countered with 20% wage pumps, and juneteenth as a paid holiday. this comes as their executives got dependency of prices. for example, gm ceo pay increased by 32.5% from 20 18 to 20 substitute, will hurt median employees paid rib eye to put a percent. also a massive pay discrepancy with the ceo of stellantis, getting 455 times as much as

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