tv Ana Cabrera Reports MSNBC September 15, 2023 7:00am-8:01am PDT
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right now on "ana cabrera reports" a historic strike breaking out overnight. for the first time in history, autoworkers taking on detroit's big three all at the same time. president biden set to address the nation on this strike today. also, another first, hunter biden now the first child of a sitting president to be indicted. the charges he's facing and their political impact. later, nbc's "meet the press" sits down with former president trump, what he says about deleting security footage
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at mar-a-lago and whether he'd take the stand. plus, we're tracking hurricane lee as it zeros in on the east coast. the extreme weather baring down right now. happy friday, thanks so much for being here. it's 10:00 eastern, i'm ana cabrera reporting from new york. let's begin with that breaking news that could have big implications for our economy. for the first time in history, the united autoworkers union is striking against all big three automakers at once. the strike became official overnight when that midnight deadline hit without a deal. the white house announcing this morning that the president will give remarks about this from washington sometime today. nbc's shaquille brewster is in toledo, ohio, and also with us, roben farzad host of public radio's "full disclosure."
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shaq, remind us what the workers want, and has there been any movement on these negotiations since the strike was announced overnight? >> reporter: good morning. there has not been any movement. that is why the workers are out here. ahead of the deadline, the uaw president said you can't expect this to be resolved quickly. you have the workers out here, they're saying they're in this for the long haul. what are they asking for? the big demand that you know is that wage increase. they came in asking for that 46% increase in wages over four years. there are plenty of other measures, though, things that address their cost of living, more vacation time, more time to spend with their family and more flexibility with the scheduling and then also retirement are key demands for these workers out here. i'll tell you, this is a historic strike in the sense that you have all three big automakers being targeted, at least one assembly plant from each of those automakers have scenes like the ones you're seeing here where workers are --
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have walked out, where there's picketing for those benefits. i want you to listen to some of my conversations, some of the conversations our team has been having with these workers specifically about what they're looking for and what they're sarifiing by walking out of their jobs and now going on strike. >> actually, a lot of our benefits ended as of midnight last night. our pay changes from our normal, we work six, seven days a week. i work 11 to 12 hours a day. now it's down to just normal strike wages, so it's going to be hard to make ends meet. it's going to be hard for a lot of us. >> reporter: now, automakers have said they are disappointed by this strike. we know ford, for example, they offered a 20% wage increase. in terms of an offer they described as historic. they said what the union has been demanding, what the union leadership has been demanding wouldn't be sustainable for their company. they say they would have to end up in bankruptcy after a couple of years because they just can't
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absorb those labor costs. but again, workers out here are saying that they feel empowered right now. they feel supported. they want to see better -- a better contract, and they're willing to stay out here, they say, for as long as necessary to make that happen, ana. >> so the uaw keeps pointing to inflation and the company's profits to argue that a 40% pay increase is not unreasonable, and the companies have a lot to lose, right, by not meeting those demands. goldman sachs estimated gm and ford stand to lose 2.5 to $3 billion in revenue every week a widespread strike lasts. by comparison, agreeing to a 40% wage bump by uaw members would cost somewhere around 4 to $6 billion over four years. so how long can the big three weather the economic hit from this? >> i think that the elephant in the room right here is tesla and electrify occasion and how
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little the big three make on electric cars. their profit center is big pickup trucks, suv guzzlers, and tesla is not a union shop. if you take apart a tesla, a model s, a model 3, far fewer parts than your median gas fired gm or stellantis, chrysler, ford vehicle, so there's dueling clout. the unions know they can shut everything down, even with one esoteric parts supplier shut down, they can bring down the entire big three, big two and a half domestic supply chain. tesla is much more autonomous. automation is another thing here. i understand if you're the union at a time with what we saw with u.p.s. kind of getting the demands, the drivers there and the workers, with hollywood and the writers up against disruption in automation and ai, this is like a battle for the soul of where this entire industry is headed.
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>> so it sounds like you believe the union workers in this case have some leverage here, but what about the potential broader economic hit we could all feel? what does that look like? what's the threat to the bigger economy and consumers? >> it would have been much bigger back in like the '70s, '80s, heydey of the big three, before the japanese disrupted this. look, now you have non-unionized japanese, korean, european automakers in the sun belt in the south. gm went through its bankruptcy, chrysler had many near death experiences, they can go back and say, look, yes, we understand the austerity of 2008 and 2009 was brutal. we have to take back a lot. we nearly died. do you want that to happen again? and the union you have to understand their perspective, inflation is crippling. what happened in the pandemic with another near death experience when they had to shut everything down in a week, so there's always an information
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asymmetry there. people that are just playing for time, the big three are playing for time against disruption in the day of reckoning against electrification. >> but, of course these workers still need to pay the bills. shaq, the uaw is reported to have an $825 million strike fund. how long is the union and these workers prepared to strike? >> reporter: the phrase that you continue to hear is as long as necessary. yes, they have a sizable strike fund, and the way that they did this strike, which is unique, which is they're not having their whole union, the 146,000 people leave and walk off. instead they have about 13,000 over the three companies walking off the job. what that means is fewer employees that need to tap into that strike fund, and that could potentially lead to a longer
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strike. you know, this is a big sacrifice. when you talk to these workers, they're going to be getting about $500 a week. they have families. they have kids. they know they're going to be sacrificing. we just left kokomo, indiana, that was a concern they had, they were not one of the targeted plants. in that area where you have one in ten members of that community are members of the union, you can imagine what kind of impact that can have oaf entire communities, and unions have been preparing for this. we know and you can see behind me, they have their supplies here. they have firewood that's being dropped off. we know that some plants have porta-potties that have been here. one worker told me he thought he was going to work and saw instead he was going to have to walk out and go on strike. because of the secrecy about which plants were being targeted -- we heard a lot of that surprise from the autoworker side as well. >> shaq brewster keep us posted.
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roben farzad, i appreciate you helping us understand the depth and widespread impact this could have. joining us now is michigan congresswoman haley stevens. she served on former president obama's auto task force, and of course is from michigan, and that's a state very impacted by all of this. thanks for being here, congresswoman. this is a first, all of the big three striking at the same time. what's your biggest concern? >> well, you can file it in the air how historic this is and the energy, and i'll tell you, my concerns are for the workers. i don't think the american people understand how difficult it is to stan on a picket line, the courage that it takes. you just heard from one uaw member that your reporter on the ground interviewed, they are making sacrifices, but they are making sacrifices for the greater good. so the concern here is are workers going to finally get dealt in. we are so proud that the auto industry, because of the hard work of uaw members has
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rebounded from the great recession period. there's certainly record profits, there's incredible innovation. we saw our way through a pandemic, and now workers deserve their fair share. that's why and how i want to see this strike conclusion. >> some people might look at this and say, wow, 40%, though, that sounds like a huge pay raise. is that unrealistic. of course the union highlights how much the execs are making in the range of 20 to $30 million a year, and the big three say that they have already agreed to raise workers' wages, but that they also need to save enough money to invest in this shift to electric vehicles to be competitive globally like we were just discussing with roben farzad. what do you make of that argument? >> mr. farzad had great analysis. the industry is going through an incredible transformation now. as a federal lawmaker who voted to pass the inflation reduction
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act alongside my democratic colleagues in the house and senate, as a member of congress who voted for the infrastructure law almost two years ago now, we have made record federal investments in these companies. the d.o.e., the department of energy at the -- just the very end of last month announced another ten of billions of dollars that are going to go to the big three for retooling their factories for this energy revolution. there is a public, private partnership underway, and that's why it's so important in these negotiations to understand that with the workers and the companies, that end result has got to be for worker justice. it's got to be for worker fairness, and we're not just talking about wage increases. we're talking about ending the tiered wage system that leaves some on the line making one wage, someone else making another, folks coming in and not getting their pension right
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away, not vesting right away. this is hard work. you can't be on your cell phone when you're on the line. think about how you take care of your family. these are all realities for hardworking men and women who make our manufacturing sector go round. >> you talk about realities, you're part of the artificial intelligence caucus, as well as the automotive caucus, what are the realities with ai and other technological advances? are autoworkers right to be worried about job security? >> well, that is such a great question as it relates to another ongoing strike with the writers and actors guild, the sag-aftra strike, and i'll say this, ai does have ramifications on a multitude of sectors. what we're going to see coming out of the sag-aftra strike is going to be absolutely critical -- >> i'm talking about the auto workers strike specifically to this -- >> i understand that but that has nothing to do right now with why they're striking. i mean, it's automation, all
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those realities are here. i've been in michigan for the last month. no one has mentioned ai to me. right now that's an elite washington conversation. it needs to be dealt with. it's hitting another union that will have ramifications to other unions, which is what i was trying to communicate to you. >> no, i just -- i appreciate that. i just was thinking, you know as our viewers are probably asking at home when we talk about the changes in the industry and the technological advances that could have that impact on an individual worker that is currently fighting so hard for the wages, for pension, for some of these other benefits right now, i'm talking bigger picture here. i understand -- >> it's always a concern, yeah. it's always a concern, and certainly we've seen that play out over decades, and you're right to mention it, and it will be hitting our manufacturing sector. frankly, we also need ai workers that's a job shortage in america
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right now, so when this technology hits, we don't even have people who know how to work with it, and so it's something that we're grappling with in congress as we manage the benefits and risks of ai. >> sure, it's a big world of the unknown for so many of us. michigan congresswoman, haley stevens, i appreciate your insights. coming up on "ana cabrera reports," what donald trump is saying about testifying under oath in a new exclusive interview with nbc news. and we're also tracking hunter biden indicted, the charges unveiled against the president's son and how it could impact his father. also, the wind, rain, and potential destruction churning towards the east coast. we're on the ground and tracking relentless hurricane lee. and later, the new study that helps us understand what happens to the human brain when a person who has almost died is resuscitated. we're back in 60 seconds. itated we're back in 60 seconds e-free. 48-hour hydration.
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a white house first, a federal indictment of a president's son, special counsel david weiss indicting hunter biden yesterday on gun charges. this comes after a plea deal fell through in july. now, hunter biden's lawyer calling the charges political and unwarranted. let's bring in nbc news investigative correspondent tom winter along with former federal prosecutor kristy greenberg and "new york times" white house correspondent katie rogers. tell us about these charges, what's next, the potential prison time hunter biden could be facing. >> there's three charges centered around really the one conduct or one particular act, and so when hunter biden, according to federal prosecutors, went is and purchased a weapon, he needed to fill out a federal form, and they allege that he lied on that form by saying he wasn't using drugs at the time. so that's charge number one. charge number two, they say in the course of doing that he lied to the gun dealer. that's in violation of federal law, and the third thing is he
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was then in possession of this weapon while using narcotics. so it really all centers around the same exact type of conduct, but it's three charges tied to it. the maximum penalty here is ten years. i don't think there's any attorney on the planet that believes that that's at all what he would be looking for if convicted of this because typically this charge is used -- we have to point out that it's very rarely charged in and of itself no matter whether it's the son of the president of the united states or anybody else who is in the audience. it's very rarely charged on its own. that's number one. number two, it's typically used as an add-on charge in other drug cases, violent crime type cases so the idea that he would get the maximum of ten years here is probably not at all possible. it would be something dramatically less than that is typically what we see. >> so kristy, the attorney for hunter biden, abby lowell said he had this gun for 11 days. was unloaded.
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are you surprised to see these charges? is it unusual? >> it's incredibly unusual. when i was a deputy chief of the criminal division at the u.s. attorney's office for the southern district of new york, i would oversee our violent crime unit and i never saw any charges like that to approve in the 12 years i was in that office. i didn't know of anybody else who was bringing those kinds of charges. they're very unusual, and if those charges were somebody's a drug addict or drug user and not using it in furtherance of drug trafficking or in a robbery or a felon in possession of a gun charge. those are the kinds of typical charges you see. this is he's an addict and usually in those situations, the result is you want to get that person into a drug addiction program. you want to make sure that person is getting help, and so the diversion agreement that they originally had where he would enter into a program, that's typically what you see, and it's interesting there's public reporting that before he was special counsel, you know, mr. weiss had said we don't want
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to treat hunter biden differently than we would treat anybody else, so what changed? well, it seems like there's a lot of political pressure, and that's the change. it's the facts are still the facts. it's very unusual, and there's certainly going to be a lot of defense challenges to this. >> the other thing we keep hearing from hunter biden's attorney is that there is a legal challenge right now working its way through the court system related to this specific gun law. can you explain about that? >> yeah, so i think this is related really to that third charge of being knowingly possessing the gun while you are a drug addict. there are a lot of supreme court cases right now that are currently under consideration about whether or not that infringes on gun rights and the expectation in this conservative supreme court is that will come out in the way of, you know, in favor of gun rights as opposed to these kinds of restrictions. so it's a real open question as to whether or not the statute is
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institutional. it's a real gamble for these charges to have been brought. >> the white house has not released a comment. you have some reporting on how hunter's charges are impacting the president behind the scenes, his mood, his worries. what are you learning? >> yeah, in the week since the plea deal fell apart, the president who has always been really optimistic about his son's future and the legal outcomes for him, after that plea deal fell apart, he sort of plunged into sadness and frustration, and he has told confidants that he does not see how this -- you know, how this kind of saga has an easy ending. so he's sort of talking to people with a resignation he hasn't had before, but also on the same -- in the same vein he has also never been somebody who has discussed his family's approximate with his aides or even extended family members. so as one of his confidants told
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me, the situation has always caused him to sort of throw himself into the work of being president, into traveling, into holding events, into sort of being really resigned in ramping up this 2024 campaign. >> you're right that at times in the past during hunter biden's tribulations over the years, quote, the elder mr. biden has seemed at a loss to respond and worried about pushing hunter away. does the president want to say more but staying quiet because of, you know, his position as president, or is it more complicated than that? >> i think what is the overriding decision maker here is that his justice department or the justice department is overseeing an investigation into his son, and he is not going to comment on ongoing investigations involving anybody and that includes his son.
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i think that those are -- that is the prevailing decision maker here regardless of how he feels personally about his son, he's made it very clear how he feels about hunter. >> gop lawmakers have made it very clear that they don't like what they're seeing, that this isn't enough. we heard them complain at one point that they thought there should be a special counsel. then weiss was appointed special counsel, they weren't happy about who it was, even though weiss as we've discussed is somebody who was nominated by president trump, opened this investigation during the trump administration. now they're complaining about the specific charges that were brought, that that's not enough, not good enough. it doesn't implicate the president. kristy, what's your reaction to that? >> it's -- i mean, i can't imagine they're familiar with the evidence. this has been a five-year investigation. if there was evidence into foreign lobbying crimes, i would think we would know it by now, and it's very bizarre that they had had this initial agreement
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to the tax charges and the diversion on the gun charges, and there was this question about whether there was immunity for the foreign lobbying. that's something you iron out pretty clearly in these plea agreements. you say here is what you are being immunized for. the language there was pretty vague in what they agreed to, and it seemed like it fell apart at the transcript when the judge actually asked questions about it. and then after the agreement, you know, mr. weiss put out a statement saying, well, our investigation is ongoing, even though defense counsel for hunter biden had said, well, it's been resolved. there didn't seem to be a meeting of the minds here. and again, i think after five years, you know, put up or shut up, if you don't have it, what other steps do you need to make? >> do we expect more charges? >> i think so. well, look, you look at the tax component of this. clearly there's been an investigation going into that. i talked to the person who opened that investigation, and he said -- and i'm talking about
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joseph zeigler -- this investigation wasn't started. i asked him was it information from rudy giuliani, did donald trump pick up the phone and call him, i'm being somewhat facetious, he was looking into he says a prostitution ring. and in the course of that examination and that investigation, he came across bank records pertaining to hunter biden generated by his financial institution. at that point, he then uncovered some additional information and some public press reports that allowed him to push forward. it's very clear that the irs criminal division believes and ziegler certainly believed before he was removed from the case that there was something to do here on the tax front. and we know to kristy's point there was an investigation and that there was going to be an agreement on some of the tax charges, on misdemeanor tax charges. now the question is whether or not weiss, given the opportunity to charge here and now the fact he's asked for special counsel status, he's been granted that by attorney general merrick garland, whether or not he decides to file felony tax charges likely in california,
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because those are really the two tax years left that don't have statute of limitations issues, hunter biden was living in california at the time, and so that's probably where he's going to bring those charges. so yes, it's still out there. it's still a question mark, but certainly if they were willing to do a plea deal, you would expect perhaps those charges to be filed. >> and we should note that the taxes that weren't paid have since been paid back. >> that's exactly correct. >> that's where we are, thank you, both, kristy, tom, good to see you, katie rogers, appreciate you as well. thanks so much for joining us. up next here on "ana cabrera reports," nbc's exclusive new interview with donald trump, what he says about security footage at mar-a-lago and whether he would testify about it under oath. plus, we are on the ground at a summit where the front runner and other gop candidates are set to speak this afternoon. . that starts working in 30 minutes, while other allergy sprays take hours. with astepro's unbeatably fast allergy relief you can astepro and go! hi, i'm john and i'm from dallas, texas. my wife's name is joy.
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is. welcome back. this morning a new preview of former president trump's defense in one of the many legal cases against him. trump denying an alleged scheme to delete security footage at the center of that mar-a-lago classified documents investigation and saying that he would testify to that under oath. in an exclusive new interview with nbc's kristen welker. >> i want to ask you about the case related to mar-a-lago. a new charge suggests you asked a staffer to delete security camera footage so it wouldn't get into the hands of investigators. did you do that? >> that's false. totally false. >> you'll testify to that under
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oath? >> yeah. it's a fake charge but this deranged lunatic prosecutor who lost in the supreme court 9-0, and he tried to destroy lots of lives. he's a lunatic. so it's a fake charge, but more importantly, the tapes weren't deleted. in other words, there was nothing done to them. and they were my tapes. i could have fought them. i didn't even have to give them the tapes, i don't think. i think i would have won in court. when they asked for the tapes, i said, sure, they're my tapes. could have fought them. in even have to give them. we didn't delete anything. nothing was deleted. >> so that's false, the people who testified -- >> number one, the statement is false. much more importantly, when the tapes came and everybody says this, they weren't deleted. we gave them 100%. >> joining us now msnbc legal analyst, melissa red moan, a former fulton county deputy district attorney and msnbc
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justice correspondent, great to have you both here with us. how significant would it be if trump takes stand and do you think that's something his lawyers would advise against especially given how he answered those questions from kristen welker? >> i think his lawyers would plead with him not to take the stand. of course we know it is his decision, it's the defendant's decision as to whether or not they testify after consulting with their attorneys. i would imagine if you have someone who has trouble answering a question clearly without going off into tangents is someone you would not want on the witness stand. it will be interesting to see. he's pretty much drawn a line in the sand of what happened versus what the government's witness is going to testify happened. >> anything that you heard in that clip that you think prosecutors will jump on? >> well, i think he focused on the fact that the tapes weren't deleted as opposed to the charge of asking his employee to delete the tapes and whether that
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actually occurred. i think if i'm the prosecutor, he still -- clearly denied asking this person to delete the tape. >> anthony, trump has said before that he would testify, but then as we saw in the case of e. jean carroll, the civil case she brought, he had the chance to take the stand. he didn't. is it different, do you think, when it comes to criminal charges? >> i think it's absolutely different. the most important thing to me, ana, that i heard in this interview with kristen welker is that he refused to say that he would not pardon himself if he was reelected again, and what that tells me -- >> and we have a clip of that, actually. let's play that clip specifically. >> mr. president, if you were reelected, would you pardon yourself? >> i could have pardoned myself. do you know what? i was given an option to pardon myself. i could have pardoned myself when i left. people said would you like to pardon yourself. i had a couple of attorneys who said you can do it if you want.
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i had some people who said it would look bad if you do. because i think it would look terrible. i said here's the story, these people are thugs, horrible people, fascists, sick people. they've been after me since the day i came down the escalator with melania. i did a great job as president, great economy, great this, great that, rebuilt the military, space force, everything. i could go on forever. i said the last thing i'd ever do is give myself a pardon. i could have given myself a pardon. don't ask me about what i would do. i could have -- the last day i could have had a pardon done that would have saved me all of these lawyers and all of this -- these fake charges, these biden indictments. they're all biden indictments, political. they indicted, they want to arrest their political opponents, only third world countries do that, banana republics. so ready? i never said this to anybody. i was given the option. i could have done a pardon of myself. you know what i said?
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i have no interest in even thinking about it. i never even wanted to think about it. and i could have done it, and all of these questions you're asking me about, the fake charges you wouldn't be asking me because it's a very power. -- it's a very powerful thing for a president. i was told by some people that these are sick lunatics that i'm dealing with. give yourself a pardon, your life will be a lot easier. i said i would never give yself a pardon. >> even if you were reelected in this moment? >> i think it's very unlike loi. what did i do wrong? you mean because i challenged an election they want to put me in jail. >> that was the clip. you said that one really stood out to you. >> you heard him say don't ask me what i would do is what he said. the reality is he essentially confirmed what we already know to be true. his whole play in this particular case is to delay, delay, delay. all with the hopes that he can get reelected and eventually pardon himself or have the case dismissed.
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and he's doing that, ana, because the facts and the evidence just are not on his side. we'll just take this documents case, for instance. we have -- the evidence is not just overwhelming, but the evidence comes from his own employees. people who are on his payroll. we have text messages between employees that has these photographs of classified material. we have surveillance tapes of people moving boxes and the list goes on and on and on. the other thing that he told megyn kelly that stood out to me yesterday was that simply by possessing classified documents they were unclassified. that is a boldfaced lie. he knows that is not how it works, and that is why he is facing these charges. it's not because the weaponization of the justice department. he brought all of these things on himself, and that's why he's facing justice in a court of law. >> he's doing a lot of talking. perhaps he thinks he can talk his way out of this, at least in
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the court of public opinion. i want to pivot to the fulton county case where you have so much experience obviously. the judge ruled yesterday that all 19 co-defendants won't be tried together, and the first trial now for kenneth chesebro and sidney powell is set to start in just over a month, and more cases could be severed. so how many trials would you expect to see? >> it's impossible to say how many, but i think as we get closer to that october 23rd date, it will become more clear. the judge has said that those who have not waived their right to speedy trial coming up in a few days, i think the 29th, would -- if they filed a motion for a speedy trial, they would join chesebro and powell on the 23rd. and if they haven't filed their waiver of speedy trial, then he'll determine how those cases may be grouped together. we do have several that have filed motions to sever from each other, and the judge has yet to rule on those motions. so i do expect it will be broken
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down further from the 17 that are left. i think it would make sense to handle those who have a possibility of removal, depending on how long that delays the state proceedings or if that delays the state proceedings, they may get severed out. there's some thought as to whether or not those who are acting in concert together more closely, although we have this over arching conspiracy, maybe they may have a good chance. but if we take judge mcafee's ruling in the powell, chesebro case, just the fact that they don't know each other. they didn't really have any intimate dealings with each other, it's not going to be enough for him to sever the case. it seems that his thinking is along the lines of logistics. so we'll have to wait and see as we get closer to that october 23rd date. >> we'll be watching closely. thank you both so much. happy friday. appreciate you being here.
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more now on the republican race for the 2024 presidential nomination. today several gop candidates are in the nation's capital gearing up for a doubleheader of events. we have the concerned women for america summit and the pray vote stand summit, and two leading candidates donald trump and florida governor ron desantis are slated to speak at both those two events with vivek ramaswamy and mike pence also set to take the stage at that latter summit. let's bring in nbc news correspondent vaughn hillyard to cover it all for us. what are we expecting today, vaughn? >> reporter: hey, good morning, ana, i think when we're talking about for donald trump here, it's much more dangerous to go before a jury and testify under oath than it is to come to events like these two events he'll be partaking in in washington, d.c. one is in front of the family research council. that's where we are now. it's led by evangelical tony perkins. this is a social conservative
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group. to give you an idea of what these two groups are. when you look at polling among evangelical workers in iowa and in south carolina and fox news polling from july, donald trump has more than 50% of support among white evangelicals. just a few moments ago, josh hawley, the senator from missouri got off stage in which he talked about masculinity and the importance for men to marry and to have children. you had the likes of jody hice, the former congressman from georgia talk about how this administration is undermining marriage in his words. from tony perkins, the emphasis on the importance of marriage between one man and one woman, and abortion has been a key focus point. tony perkins who is the leader of this organization validating donald trump that none of this would have happened, meaning the overturning of roe v. wade and the ability of states to ban abortion rights if it were not for donald trump appointing three conservatives to the supreme court. ron desantis will be here as well, and ron desantis signed in april a six-week abortion ban in
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the state of florida. so far he has not committed to signing a federal ban, nor has donald trump. but mike pence who is a former vice president, he will be here just about two hours from now. and of course he has suggested that there should be a six-week abortion ban federally. so to try to appeal and win over some of this evangelical crowd is important. >> it could provide some divergence in terms of where the republican candidates stand. vaughn hillyard, thanks so much. up next here on "ana cabrera reports," storm threat, hurricane lee has maine under its first hurricane watch in 15 years. >> i feel like it's been -- people are taking it more seriously than other storms we've had. plus, unlocking the age old mystery of death, the new study about how long your brain could still be active even after your heart stops. heart stops.
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this morning, maine is under its first hurricane watch in 15 years. hurricane lee is churning towards northern new england and canada packing strong winds, rain, and bringing the threat of coastal flooding, and those impacts expected early this weekend. nbc's kathy park is standing by for us in portland, maine. let's get right to nbc meteorologist angie lassman. it feels like we've been talking about hurricane lee for weeks, maybe not weeks but over a week at least, right? what's the path here? >> it feels like an eternity. i'm with you. we've been watching this system as it slowly moved across parts of the atlantic. now we're going to start to eventually feel those impacts here in the short-term in parts of new england and eventually canada as well. here's the deal as far as the tropical alerts are concerned. that is a tropical storm warning. that means tropical storm conditions are likely in the next 24 hours. and they are likely for the southern portions of this area that you see highlighted, probably by the later parts of
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today, maybe late afternoon, early evening we'll start to see those tropical storm conditions working into parts of massachusetts. where you see that brighter pink along coastal areas of maine, that is a hurricane watch. it's been a while since we've seen one of those there. either way we're going to see strong wind, potentially heavy rainfall, and some storm surge. let's talk about the latest details with hurricane lee, a category 1 hurricane, still well off the coast. notice that cloud cover that's starting to work into parts of new england, even the northeast, places like new york, if you go outside, you're going to notice those clouds working their way in. we'll see some gusty conditions as far south as new york, but it's really north of that that we're going to start to see the really strong winds and potentially storm surge. notice how expansive this storm is. we've got winds that are extending well out from the core of it. even though it's going to be well offshore for the next 24 hours at least and eventually make its way inland for folks in atlantic canada, we're still going to see those impacts especially considering the tropical storm force winds across basically massachusetts to maine.
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those are the areas that we'll see the stronger wind gusts. so what will those be? anywhere 30, 40, 50, even 60 miles per hour, downed trees, downed power lines, we're going to see likely interior areas, dealing with these downed trees. we'll see some storm surge maybe 1 to 3 feet across that region as well. >> you're there in the already drenched new england area. how are people there getting ready? >> reporter: hey, ana, good morning to you. you can probably see it's a beautiful day. the sun is starting to peek through, it's starting to get a little breezy in the area, but we are here at the spring point marina. if you take a look behind me, there are no boats in the water. in fact, typically on a good day, there should be about 450 vessels in the water. obviously ahead of the storm because the storm was headed this way here, the dock master was telling me they pulled all of the boats out early this week, and of course they are here now on dry land, and we have seen some owners coming through here.
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they're kind of checking their boats, their property, making sure things are tied down. so that is kind of what we anticipate will play out throughout the course of the day today. but according to the dock master, the biggest issue is basically what will happen after the storm. he is more concerned about potential damage to infrastructure and the repair that they'll have to do after the fact, and obviously they didn't want to take any chances. and that's why they started the work really early, sunday into monday they brought all their teams out to pull these boats out, and now they're on land. here's a little bit more from my conversation with the dock master earlier this morning. take a listen. >> we decided to pull all vessels out of these two facilities, top to bottom from accounting to maintenance, we all pitched in monday and tuesday to get all these boats out of the water. in my 11 years down hre we've had a fall haul out like this once. >> reporter: so ana, forecasters
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here are saying that this will likely be a bad nor'easter when it comes through on saturday. so several inches of rain, powerful winds, and officials here are saying, look, don't want to take any chances. you have the day today, please take the opportunity to get prepared, bring that outdoor furniture in, clean out the gutters, get those things ready just in case, obviously there's still a state of emergency here, this is kind of a precaution just in case things got worse. it sounds like based on the models and the track of the storm, it's heading east. once again, a bad nor'easter. it looks like it's going to be just a nasty day on saturday for folks here in maine. >> okay, hunker down. everybody stay safe, kathy park, angie lassman, thanks, ladies. up next on "ana cabrera reports," cracks in his caucus, the juggling act speaker mccarthy is facing, avoiding a government shutdown and keeping his hold on power. government shutdown and keeping his hold on power.
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days after he said he would open an impeachment inquiry into president biden, house speaker kevin mccarthy is confronting challenges to his own seat. mccarthy telling republican members threatening his speakership to, quote, file the f'ing motion. this was reportedly during a closed meeting yesterday, according to sources in the room. and this tense moment unfolding as spending negotiations have appeared to have stalled in the house with two weeks to avoid a government shutdown. let's go to the hill. garrett haake is there in d.c. in this moment it sounds like mccarthy lost his cool. what more do we know about this party infighting happening behind closed doors? >> yeah. he admitted that's the case saying he was confronted by his own members. right now we have mccarthy versus the far right. and they're struggling onner
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front. they were supposed to pass a defense bill that is largely popular with house republicans. but that far right faction held it up because they want to have further fights all across the government. you could argue the time for those fights was earlier in the year because the deadline is coming up at the end of this month. and you are staring down having to do a short term extension as house far right members fight for all the things you see on your screen that won't get through the senate and are having a hard time getting through the house. mccarthy may have hoped that impeachment inquiry would placate some of those folks, but that far right conference, like the impeachment inquiry, they want more. they want more on that front. mccarthy is having a hard time getting it to him and the math doesn't work any other way. >> garrett haake, thank you. happy friday. up next, we have gotten closer to understanding what
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what happens after we die? it's the existential question that's faced philosophers and religious leaders throughout human history. now scientists say they may have an idea. anne thompson explains. >> reporter: the moments after death. >> you know where you are, don't you? >> reporter: hollywood imagined warren beaty in "heaven can wait." kiefer sutherland and kevin bacon revisited their sins in "flatliners." mary experienced none of those things. >> it was like almost going home, and there was nothing to be afraid of. >> the cincinnati writer's heart stopped for several minutes in the hospital in 2004.
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>> and i could see everything, feel everything, hear everything, even though i know now i was medically dying. i felt an overwhelming rush and almost a pressure being pulled, almost like a force field being pulled back into my body and then i woke up and saw the doctors that i had been seeing working on me. >> reporter: it is part of a new scientific study that found people that went into cardiac arrest and were brought back to life by cpr almost 40% had a recollection of dying. nyu's doctor sam parnia is the lead researcher. >> we found science of normal brain electrical activity that's consistent with the types of things we have when they're fully conscious. >> reporter: what happens to the brain after the heart stops? >> after the heart stops, the brain does not die. it hibernates and it shows the ability to recover even an hour longer afterwards.
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>> reporter: they are working on a book. parnia hopes it will spur new innovation. >> if you talk about how you're going to die or what's going to happen when you die, it frames how you are going to live. what could be more impactful? >> reporter: as science trying to unlock the history of death. that does it for us today. see you next time. same time, same place. jose diaz-balart picks up our coverage right now. good morning. it is 11:00 a.m. eastern, 8:00 a.m. pacific. i'm jose diaz-balart. thousands of auto workers in three states are on the picket lines, walking off the job overnight. what the big three auto makers failed to come to a deal. we'll talk to one of those strikers, a second generation union member. plus, kristin kel kerr in
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