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>> reporter: they are working on a book. parnia hopes it will spur new innovation. >> if you talk about how you're going to die or what's going to happen when you die, it frames how you are going to live. what could be more impactful? >> reporter: as science trying to unlock the history of death. that does it for us today. see you next time. same time, same place. jose diaz-balart picks up our coverage right now. good morning. it is 11:00 a.m. eastern, 8:00 a.m. pacific. i'm jose diaz-balart. thousands of auto workers in three states are on the picket lines, walking off the job overnight. what the big three auto makers failed to come to a deal. we'll talk to one of those strikers, a second generation union member. plus, kristin kel kerr in
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her debut as moderator of "meet the press" sits down with donald trump. we'll play for you what he said when asked if he told a staffer to delete camera footage. later, hundreds of thousands of immigrants brought here as children could be in limbo now that a judge ruled a program to protect them is unlawful. we'll talk to beto o'rourke about that and more. and remembering the life of renowned artist fernando who has died at 91. in this hour, with our breaking news overnight, right now nearly 13,000 auto workers are on strike after their union failed to reach a deal on a new contract late last night. this is a live look at striking workers at g m's plant in missouri. strikes are taking place at three different plants. but the uaw union says there is
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potential for more if a deal is not reached. some demands includes a 40% hourly pay increase. reduced weekly hours and pension reform among other issues. one of the auto makers made a statement saying we are extremely disappointed by the uaw leadership's refusal to engage in a responsible manner to reach a fair agreement in the best interest of our employees, their families and our customers. president biden is expected to deliver remarks about the strike. we will bring you those remarks when they occur. joining us from outside a stellantis plant, shaquille brewster with us. shaq, you are at one of the factories where workers are striking. what are they saying? >> reporter: that's right, jose. 6,000 workers walked off the job here in toledo, ohio. look, what you are hearing from these auto workers is that, one, they did not want to strike.
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they don't want to be in this position. they know strikes are hard. but what they want is a fair contract in their words and a strong contract in their words. 46% wage increase. they know they will be eventually some flexibility on that. but they want to get higher pay. they feel like they have been losing out because of factors like inflation. if you look at the average pay, their increase in pay has been trending the average american worker. that has been a big sticking point not only for these workers but also a sticking point in the negotiations. i want you to listen to one of my conversations i had with a shift leader just this morning about that point, about why the pay aspect is so important to her. >> the new people coming in are ses, they call, supplemental employees. they're coming in at the same price mcdonald's is hiring. that's not a good living for them.
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if you got in at jeep or gm or ford, you were going to make a good living. >> reporter: of course, there are other sticking issues. there is retirement. there is your lifestyle essentially. they want more time off, for example. and what you are hearing from auto makers is that that's just not sustainable. that labor costs are going high. that means for their business that wouldn't be sustainable. they meet the union demands and run a profitable business. that's the argument you're hearing from auto makers. we hear offers were exchanged as early as yesterday. no negotiations, which means the strike will extend, jose, into the weekend. >> so help us understand how things got to this point. >> so, jose, it got to this point because both sides don't even appear to be close in their expectations for this deal. so, shaq, you mentioned both this 40%, 46% cumulative pay raise. the reduction to 32 hours of
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work, restoration of traditional pension benefits instead of 401(k) or traditional defined compensation plans, these are all key components of the uaw's position. the counter offers that have been made, as shaq points out, just happening in the last 48 hours or so. general motors out just yesterday putting forth a proposal in line with key parts of the offer already made by ford as well. g m's frame work involves just a 20% bump in pay over the next four years. 20% seems like a lot, but it is not 40% to 46%. they twauk about this quicker path towards getting towards upper tiers of wages. they have also offered unspecified cost of living adjustments. and this is a big one. they promised not to shut down any u.s. manufacturing plants or warehouse facilities. they have offered up to five weeks of paid vacation, alongside two weeks of parental
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leave. the uaw is taking that firmer line on those points, not just the 40% pay bump. we mentioned the 32 hour workweek. they also want an end overall to that tiered wage system. so those are the bigger points of contention. now, this is the interesting part here for stellantis, which is unique in this situation. they could be more contentious here because a slate of other car brands already indicated it could be looking to close down nearly half of the 35 factories and parts depots it has across america because it already has way more production capacity around the world than it needs to produce the cars that customers demand. job losses at stellantis could be much more of an issue during that process, jose. this is the reason why things are so complex. when you are dealing with all three at the same time, it is hard to find some real consensus because each company has
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different situations that they're in economically, jose. >> you were mentioning today there will be no negotiations. what is going forward, the schedule? >> reporter: well, that remains to be seen. we expect negotiations to pick up tomorrow once we get into the weekend, but how long this strike could last is a big question the workers are asking. they're saying they're willing to stay out here as long as necessary. they have been preparing for it. not just these plants. but all the uaw workers have essentially been put on standby. so we know this is a rolling strike. it is called a stand-up strike. it is three plants right now. it could be six on monday, nine on tuesday. you don't know when they will call in more workers for this strike. we could tell you if there is a sign of how long people expect to be outside this plant in toledo. there is a sense that people are getting that this may be an
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extended strike. the benefit for the union of having this stand-up strike where it goes plant by plant is that that means their strike fund will last a little bit longer. so they're prepared, they say, to have this go into the long haul. >> thank you. joining us now is tiffany simmons who works at ford as a production team leader. thank you so much for being with us, tiffany. just wondering, what was it like? >> it was a very overwhelming experience. we were prepared -- well, we have been preparing for this. normally we start the contract as soon as contract year getting here. so we have been prepping and going through all the emotions of preparing for a possible strike since negotiations began. was it something that we thought would happen? it was something that we prayed
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would not happen. but here we are. emotions were high last night. everyone was on guard. we walked peacefully out of the facility. everyone immediately took post at our local, which is directly across the street from our plant. there was excitement. there was adrenaline. it's the beginning of a fight. it is the beginning of a fight we have been prepping for for a very long time as uaw members. >> yeah. the ceo of general motors, which is one of the three companies you are negotiating with. here is part of what mary had to say on cnbc. listen to this. >> i think we have a very generous offer on the table. it is historic. from a wayne even crease perspective, it is the most productive offer in our 115-year
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history. >> what do you think of that? >> it is very insulting for someone that makes my wages, along with probably my entire plant's wages with the entire salary to say that it's a generous offer for what we're -- what they have given us. costs of living has gone up. but our wages haven't. what used to be a job that my father could provide for our entire family for is no longer that. so for her to say that that's generous, that's almost laughable. >> tiffany simmons, i thank you for being with us. really appreciate your time. now to breaking news from alabama where supreme court justice ketanji brown jackson will mark the 65th anniversary of a bombing of a church to confront uncomfortable lessons about race. senior legal correspondent laura jarett joins us.
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>> it is her second year on the bench. and justice jackson is not holding back. she is going all in in a speech that's set to start very shortly there in alabama, as you mentioned, marking the 60th anniversary of that infamous church bombing. and she's talking about race. she's talking about race and education. she says, and this is according to some draft remarks. but she says, we have to confront these uncomfortable lessons that are often the ones that teach us the most about ourselves. we cannot learn from past mistakes that we do not know exist. it is a notably blunt set of remarks from a sitting supreme court justice on controversial, hot button cultural issues of the day, on the heels of a supreme court term that was nothing short of a blockbluster with gutting affirmative action and dealing with voting rights and gerrymandering. it is interesting for her to do this at this point in time as
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this is beginning her second year on the u.s. supreme court as the first black woman. >> thank you very much. really appreciate you. still ahead, chaos on capitol hill as house speaker kevin mccarthy fights off his gop critics. time is running out to avert a government shutdown. plus, what's next for hunter biden? we're back in 60 seconds. you are watching "jose diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. your thyroid eye disease could still change. restoration is still possible. learn how you could give your eyes a fresh start at tedhelp.com. my asthma felt anything but normal. ♪ ♪ it was time for a nunormal with nucala. nucala is a once-monthly add-on treatment for severe eosinophilic asthma that can mean less oral steroids.
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a charge like this against anybody. when they are bringing this charge, it is either because somebody had the gun in a commission of a crime, they have bought multiple guns, they are a straw purchaser for somebody else or they are a felony in possession. none of that is true about hunter biden. >> so, tom, what's the latest and what comes next on this case? >> procedurally, hunter biden will have to appear in a delaware courthouse, the same courthouse where this plea agreement went south in late july. so they will have to appear there again. they will combine his last appearance and his plea, which we presume to be not guilty. at that point, the legal fight on these specific charges begins, and there is a whole host of things that lisa is aware of and all our analysts are, the potential avenues that
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the legal team might want to attack this. >> the legal team was saying something like this has never happened with some exceptions. has something like this happened before? >> not to my knowledge. the representation is generally true. these aren't charges that are generally brought in isolation. they are usually brought in circumstances far different from this one. there are three charges against hunter biden. two have to do with making false statements in connection with his purchase of a firearm. the third is possession of a firearm while using drugs or being addicted to drugs. that's the representation you make on the form. >> is there anything to the timing of this? tom was saying, this was as a consequence of that plea deal they had agreed to falling apart. >> there is something to the timing. but we still have a little time left. the statutes under which he's being charged have a five-year statute of limitation. the facts leading to these
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charges stem from an incident in 2018. so we have a little time left but not more than two to three weeks. >> interesting that of the things that were included in that plea deal that fell apart, this is probably the only one that the weapons, the gun charge, that has a beginning, middle and end to it as far as investigations because this is an incident that occurred, it finished and it wasn't repeated. the other issues of the taxes are probably more prone to further investigation. >> that's right. so the gun charges and the conduct, it is really three charges centered around one thing. that was an 11-day period of time. we have the tax investigation, which was a five-year investigation. i spoke earlier this week with the person that opened this investigation which they found in the course of another crime or potential crime they were looking at. so their work is done. the irs' work was done.
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the team that was working on that, as we have reported, as others reported, are pushed off of that case. at some point, there is a discussion about a potential plea. as you said, we haven't seen those charges yet. it is likely they will be filed. but the window of conduct that they can look at as pointed out on the gun case, there is a statute of limitations concern. the same are the case on the tax charges and a charge that was going to be pleaded guilty to this summer, a misdemeanor tax charge, the statute of limitations for that will come up in october. it is possible we will see movement on that front soon if they decide to charge. one thing that hunter biden's representatives always point out is those taxes have been paid. but legal analysts will say just because you have paid back those taxes doesn't mean it wipes you clean from any potential criminal liability. but how that all takes shape, what will happen there still
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remains a little bit of an unknown. we expect because of where the conduct is alleged to have occurred it will probably be filed in los angeles. >> thinking back on this gun charge issue, what is the likelihood we will see this case go to trial? pretty strong? >> it is hard to say. there was a pretrial diversion agreement about the gun charges. that's separate and apart from the plea deal on the tax charges that fell apart. that deal was signed by the u.s. attorney's office in delaware. it was signed by hunter biden's then lawyers. correct, in july. and the position now is he said in court filings is that that agreement is still enforceable. when you talk about potential legal defenses on the gun charges, one of them and perhaps the foremost among them will be you are not eligible to bring these. why? because we have an agreement that already agrees that we will not prosecute these charges. and the only person that didn't sign as a representative of the u.s. probation office, hunter biden's lawyers will say that's
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gretchen whitmer. >> well, these three men accused of being part of this 2020 plot to kidnap the michigan governor have all been acquitted an all counts. they were part of this militia group, and they were accused by the government of being part of this plot in taking part in drills and surveillance of gretchen whitmer's properties. two of the three testified they took part in these drills but did not know the plot until the end. they weren't the central players here. some of those folks are already convicted. they are facing up to 20 years in prison. but these three men, two of whom are brothers, are off on all charges. for anyone that hasn't paid much attention to this case recently, this was a big deal. back in 2020 it was part of the story of the rising extremism, a closer look at some of the
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militia groups that have been organizing and at times put both voters and politicians' lives at risk here. while these three men have been acquitted, and this is the last of the trial, they're one piece of a larger story. >> thank you so much. for the first time since being indicted in a series of investigations, former president trump sat down with nbc news and discussed his ongoing legal challenges. in an interview with kristin welker, the former president said he would testify under oath that he did not order mar-a-lago security footage to be deleted. it is key in the classified documents case. >> i want to ask you about the case related to mar-a-lago. a new charge suggests you asked a staffer to delete security camera footage. >> that's false. >> would you testify to that under oath. >> i'll testify to that. >> you'll testify to that under oath? okay. >> it is a fake charge by this
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deranged lunatic prosecutor who lost in the supreme court 9-0, and he tried to destroy lots of lives. he's a lunatic. so it is a fake charge. but more importantly, the tapes weren't deleted. in other words, there was nothing done to him. and they were my tapes. i could afford them. i think i would have won in court. when they asked for the tapes, i said sure. they're my tapes. i could afford them. i didn't have to give them. just so you understand, though, we didn't delete anything. nothing was deleted. >> so that's false. the people who testified to that -- >> number one, the statement was false. much more importantly, when the tapes came and everybody says this, they weren't deleted. we gave them 100%. >> the full and exclusive interview will air this sunday on her first day as moderator of "meet the press." the invitation has been extended to president biden. joining us now with more is nbc's vaughn hillyard who joins
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us from a conservative summit in washington, d.c. and peter baker, an msnbc political analyst. he is the co-author of "the divider." vaughn, what's being the reaction from trump world and trump's primary rivals from what we just heard? >> reporter: right. much more of kristin's interview will be coming out in the days ahead and on "meet the press" on sunday. there was one part of her interview that he said he would be unlikely to pardon himself if he were to get back in the white house. the word "unlikely" is important because will herd responding saying that donald trump, the reason he is running is because he wants to be able to pardon himself. i think that's an important distinction. it was the use of the word "unlikely." but the other part of that clip you just heard is him saying he
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would testify under oath in the classified documents case that he did not order the delusion of the tapes. now, donald trump saying he will testify is a departure from his past proceedings. he did not testify or meet with investigators. he did not testify in front of the january 6th select committee. he did not go in front of a jury in civil suit. for donald trump, the commitment to go and testify would be outside of the norms for him as a defendant to go and ultimately make his case before a jury here. i think for donald trump, it is an important distinction because he would potentially be putting himself in legal peril. a defiant stand would be to go before the jury and make his own defense. >> what do you make of what we heard in that interview?
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>> i think vaughn is right. these are not meaningful commitments on his part. he seems very unlikely to testify. he seems very unlikely to rule out a pardon if it were to come to that. if he's ruling out a pardon, he's arguing he won't be convicted in the first place and that the prosecutions are illegitimate. if he gets into office, he could have the power to try to unravel the federal cases because it would be the justice department. so i wouldn't read too much into that. obviously, a show of defiance on his part. he is trying, of course, to convince his base that this is nothing but partisan prosecution against him. but he's not really denying most of the salient facts in there. when he said he didn't delete the tapes, that doesn't mean it's not a crime. the prosecutors are saying the act of ordering people to delete
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it is the crime. whether it takes place following that is not relevant to their investigation. >> i'm sorry. go ahead. >> i'm good. >> president biden is facing some political headwinds. i mean, there is that impeachment inquiry they're talking about on capitol hill. the charges against his son, a major union strike. what's his campaign's plan to tackle all of these issues? >> yeah. hasn't been a great win for him in that sense. a lot of facts that are problematic. more discussion about whether he should run again as we talked about on "morning joe" this week. but, you know, they -- the white house, they try to take the long view and say, we get it. washington is full of hang wringing. yes, there are issues here we have to confront, but in the end, we are the only candidate that beat donald trump and we will beat him again. in terms of the impeachment, they actually see that, while not anything anybody would welcome, as potentially a
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political plus, that that will put republican moderates in a bad place and rally democrats back to them. they consider it a baseless inquiry. the charges against hunter are harder because they're more personal. the president of the united states feels strongly about his son, loves his son, hates to see him go through this and knows it is a political problem, but one he doesn't want to make about politics because he doesn't want to do anything to -- you know, that will be seen as hurting his son. so that's a harder one. the strike, you're right, it could challenge the economy. they're hoping it could be resolved relatively quickly and not do lasting damage, but they don't know where it's going to go. >> that major conservative summit. you have talked to voters on a daily basis. what do you think these political battles are doing for what seems to be the two standard bearers of the parties, biden and trump? >> right.
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i think for donald trump specifically, jose, is the fact that his polling numbers have not taken a hit from the indictments or any of the perils or criticisms that he has received from his republican to -- opponents at this time. donald trump, you know, there is a serious question of whether he has to placate any of these groups like these social conservative family research council. this is a group that has been founded and is on the forefront of arguing for marriage is between a man and a woman, arguing for federal abortion bans, arguing for their idea of religious freedom. for donald trump, he will be coming into a room like this. but tony perkins was just on stage with missouri senator josh hawley, both men legitimizing donald trump because they say he kept his word. that donald trump campaigned on
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appointing conservative supreme court justices. he did that. while mike pence will be here in about an hour, it is making the case to republican voters that they have an opportunity to sign a federal abortion ban into law. you haven't heard that from ron desantis or donald trump. when he sees more than 50% of evangelicals supporting him, the question is does he have to move further to the right on any of these positions, despite the urgings of groups like this and some acknowledgment that donald trump is worth cozying up to because he may be the republican nominee. >> thank you both very much for being with us this morning. up next, texas' use of aggressive measures to keep migrants from crossing into the u.s. whether enough is being done to stop what he calls the cruelty at the border. it is good to see you. we'll see you in just a minute. e
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37 passed the hour. we're following the impact of a ruling that could put hundreds of thousands of people in deportation. a federal jung declared that the daca program is illegal despite recent changes. joining us now, beto o'rourke. let's just start with the basic. legal status for dreamers is
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supported by democrats, conservatives and liberals. why can't this get done? >> we should credit president biden for trying to make these changes to remove the uncertainty from hundreds of thousands of our fellow americans who have only known this country as their own. they speak english as their primary or perhaps only language, are contributing far more to our economy and to the life of our communities than they could ever take back. he did his best to make sure they would have the certainty to stay here, but this judge has ruled to the contrary. now it is up to congress, especially for those that stood in the way of legalizing pressure for dreamers to do the right thing. so we applaud president biden and now we ask congress to do their job. >> but, you know, odds are congress won't. let's be honest.
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>> that's right. here's the other opportunity from president biden. as your previous segment just highlighted, he's had a tough week politically. and the waters look pretty rough over the next year in terms of his re-election. one way to steady that and to increase excitement within the base of the democratic party is to really take bold leadership on the issue of immigration. as you and i have discussed before, we have a real challenge at the texas/mexico border where the governor has deployed these floating buoys which are really drowning devices that contributed to the deaths and drownings of dozens of migrants including children when you take into account the razor wire and militarization he presided over. president biden could step in right now and save lives and provide the kind of order, certainty and legal pathways that both those migrants and the american people want. i think that could be a great
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first step in setting the stage for his second term where, jose, he leads on not just daca but comprehensive immigration reform. no president has used their political capital sufficient enough to get this done. that's why ronald reagan was the last to pro side over immigration reform. it will excite those democrats currently on the fence or unexcited about the president right now. >> what do you see is the first step that you think the president could take now. what steps are you asking for? >> a couple of things. as we know, given the situation in new york city and new york state, one of the great challenges is a lack of work authorization for migrants and asylum seekers already here. they're dependent on public generosity, on public housing in new york, and they're unable to earn an income. the president could make it legal to work, earn an income,
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pay back and no longer be a demand on the public purse. secondly, he could improve access to the application process for asylum seekers right now. it is so bottlenecked that you have people crossing in between ports of entry, creating or contributing to the chaos we're seeing right now. again, the president could lead on that and provide a safe, legal, orderly path for people to come here. and, third, he must stand up to greg abbott. this cruelty that we're seeing at the u.s./mexico border, which in addition to the deaths i have described has done nothing to improve our safety and security. "the wall street journal" said after $4 billion spent, we are not more secure at our border. we're seeing more crossings, not less. these are three things the president could do right now that would set the stage not only for his own re-election but for a successful second term that begins with comprehensive immigration reform. >> and do you have any faith that any comprehensive
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immigration reform could -- i'm not talking about come to reality, but even a process start on capitol hill, which is a place where it seems like there is no possibility of bipartisan work or even conversations? >> i do believe it can happen. and i was on capitol hill for six years. i was there in 2014 with the last best chance that we had to move forward on comprehensive immigration reform under president obama. what we need is for a president at the very beginning of their term to use the political capital they had after that election to move forward on this issue. it's that big, that challenging and will require that kind of power to move forward, the same power that president obama used in 2009 and 2010 to expand health care access to millions of our fellow of americans. he could only do it in that political window. that's the window that will be
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open to a re-elected president biden if he chooses to use it. but the best way to get there, to get to that second term is to start leading on this issue. all of us want that. democrats, independents, many republicans alike, and the president has a chance to step up and live up to the campaign promises that he made back in 2020. >> former congressman, it is a pleasure to see you. up next, what house speaker kevin mccarthy did that could pus the u.s. government closer to a shutdown. you are watching "jose diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. a.
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joining us with more is allie vitali. >> reporter: we're certainly not any further from that possibility. yesterday when lawmakers left town, mccarthy promised this would be their last moment leaving town before solving this funding crisis. but really it seems like no one has a plan forward here. we're starting to see several people talk about various different pathways. but one of the ways that gets them shy is actually having to figure out this funding deal in the time they have left would be passing something called a continuing resolution. this is often what we have seen when congress kicks the can down the road to avoid government shutdowns. but the difference here is that many members who are already agitating against mccarthy are saying they will not fund and they will not support a continuing resolution. so that means that until they see the things that are on your screen, lower spending levels chief among them but also other things like against funding -- against future funding for
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ukraine and addressing what they're calling the weaponization of the doj. you can see here that this is a conversation about spending for some of these conservative members, but it is also about much more than that, which is why mccarthy is having a problem finding a path forward. >> meanwhile, a smaller spending bill progressing through the senate. >> exactly. i think that was our question here, too. because you know there is a problem when republicans are stopping themselves from voting on funding for the military. that's exactly what happened yesterday in the senate. several republican senators holding up a process for what we call up here a mini bus, which is basically a smaller cluster of funding bills all trying to be funneled through the senate and the house together. in this instance, they thought they had the votes to do that. but now republican senators including rand paul are saying the reason they don't want to move forward on funding the military is because they feel like by chopping this up and leaving other government funding sectors to other negotiations,
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they feel like they lose leverage on taking down total spending overall. so house conservatives getting a boost from the other side of congress here. republican senators basically allowing them to continue holding these negotiations hostage until they see the spending cuts they need. it is a complicated and utterly messy process up here on capitol hill. >> thank you so much. in libya, more than 11,000 people are dead from the massive flooding there. plus, let's look back at the life of an extraordinary artist. fernando botero, some of his works you may have seen. i mean, the impact that this artist has had on the world of art has been huge. we'll talk about him in just a minute. when better money habits® content first started coming out, it expanded what i could do for special olympics athletes with developmental needs.
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foundations, but once was a nine-story building. i can walk up the steps to basically nowhere. sorry, jake. there are groups of people, health workers, those in hazmat suits, trying to -- all trying to -- very good, thank you. the civilians are stoic. they have been incredibly friendly. a lot of them asking where the international help is, why there isn't more help on the ground. they're doing it for themselves. not very much of them, it has to be said. we have been here all morning. more and more are turning up. still, incredibly small numbers for the massive scale of the challenge in front of them. they are going into these buildings dressed like that, with masks on, because the weather has been extremely hot.
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it is absolutely steaming hot. we're now coming up to nearly a week since this disaster happened. the corpses they are finding, many of them in bits, are putrid from a week of decomposing. it's a horrible, horrifying, terrible, grim task that they have. look at the state of the buildings. those were once homes. those were once where people lived. now they are a search and recovery team going through them building by building, trying to find the remains of thousans and thousands of people who are as yet unaccounted for. a lot of questions. a lot of questions about what led to this. the u.n. saying that this could have been prevented. that's very much what the
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message is from the civilians on the ground. i spoke to one of derna's residents who is a structural engineer who said as recently as last year that there were many warnings about the state of the two dams and how inadequate they were, as far back as 2008, before the libyan revolution. there were reports calling for another ten to be built along this stretch to hold back all the water. the revolution happened. 2010, 2011, part of the arab spring, the topping of the leader. the instability, the two rival authorities which have split libya in two, the instability, the civil war, the corruption, the people smuggling rings, the mafia-style politics has conspired to nothing being done. this structural engineer was among a number who said this was due to negligence. storm daniel was predicted. we saw it ripping through other
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countries before it hit this one. the people of derna are saying, why do some many thousands need to die? why wasn't something done earlier? >> thanks to alex crawford for that. the other story, we are awaiting remarks from president biden on the historic decision by the united auto workers union to go on strike after they did not reach an agreement with automakers on a contract. joining us from the white house is mike memoli. good morning. what can we expect to hear from the president? >> reporter: i think what you will see from president biden is that he will be walking a bit of a tightrope as he addresses this major work stoppage. the president, of course, has styled himself as the most pro-labor president in u.s. history. he will no doubt stand firmly behind the workers as they make these demands for higher pay and better working conditions. one of the issues at the heart of the strike has to do with the transition that president biden's administration has championed to a clean energy future. that includes electric vehicles,
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which potentially down the road would reduce the labor force overall in the auto worker industry. that's one of the tightrope issues, the president is concerned about. the other is also the state of the economy. he is hoping to run on a spate of good economic news and improving economic climate. this has a potential to did he a disruption. typically -- we have been waiting for the president to deliver these remarks. we know the white house likes to put the president out in public when he has something to announce. likely that would be perhaps some fresh outreach to both parties in this strike at the moment. the president has spoken with the head of the united auto workers once in person notice -- once in office in the oval office. we will be getting more from the president in terms of an update potentially shortly. >> mike memoli from the white house, thank you very much. before we go, sad news to bring you this morning.
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fernando botero has died at the age of 91 from pneumonia complications. he was a giant. he is recognized by many as probably the most famous columbian artist in history. his paintings and sculptures have been displayed in some of the world's most famous museums, parks, plazas. he was known for his distinct artistic style where he depicted oversized figures with a satirical edge. among the many things that he did is he established a museum in his hometown where he actually donated about $2 billion worth of art to the museums. this is a gentleman who lived the life of art, represented in so many different ways.
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i don't know if you can see some of the paintings. i'm sure you have seen them. he established a new style of art. he died this morning at 91. that wraps up the hour for me. see you tomorrow night. you can always reach me on social media. you can watch highlights from today's show online. thank you for the privilege of your time. andrea mitchell picks up with more news right now. right now on "andrea mitchell reports," an historic auto workers strike against detroit's big three could cause major disruptions in the economy and to consumers. it could become a big political problem for the most pro-union president in american history as he describes himself. weighing in on the white house ahead of an election year, the indictment of president biden's son hunter on federal gun charges with an anticipated indictment on tax charges also likely to come.

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