>> a very good day to all of you from msnbc world headquarters here in new york. welcome everyone to alex witt wear ports. we have this breaking news. texas state senator say they have finished deliberating in the impeachment trial for suspended attorney general, ken paxton, and soon they will each read their verdict out loud. one by one in full public view on whether paxson is innocent, or guilty, of 16 articles of impeachment levied against him by the states republican-led

house. accusing paxton of bribery, dereliction of duty, and abuse of public trust. all to help one of his donors. joining me right now, msnbc's priscilla thompson. priscilla welcome, what more can you tell us about what is going to happen now. and what all the senators had to consider? >> yeah alex, just a short while ago senators are going to walk into the chamber. that voting process well again, each of those 16 articles of impeachment are going to be red, and those senators will have an opportunity to vote on each one. it only takes a vote to impeach on one of those articles for ken paxton to ultimately be impeached, it will require a two thirds majority and over for that to happen. their authority senators that are going to be voting. 12 democrats, 18 republicans. that is what we are waiting to see, but as he mentioned, this comes after many days of testimony. people hearing from former,

some of paxton's former top staffers detailing this abuse of power that they say that they had witnessed and it ended yesterday with closing arguments, after rich folks. those centers were able to finish deliberating. i want to read some quotes from paxton's attorney first. and then -- take a listen. >> it's not about ken paxton. it is about whether or not you have a reasonable doubt. and i suspect he did some things that you probably did not like. i get that. i understand that. but that is not the issue. the issue is whether the proof is there that is so convincing that it convinces you beyond a reasonable doubt, the same standard of proof that is in the death penalty case, it is not. it is not. it is not. two words, two words, not guilty. >> they office of the attorney

general of the state of texas is mr. paxton's law firm. and he is the firms only client. he directs it to serve himself, not the people of texas, if you vote to condone that, then high office will simply be the most profitable choice for any self-serving crook. >> and as you mentioned, these senators are going to consider 16 articles. including bribery, conspiracy, dereliction of duty. all sitting from the staffers who say that paxton used his office to benefit a wealthy political donor, and accepted bribes. so we will ultimately see pretty soon here, likely, how these senators are going to vote on this issue. a reminder this is a gop-controlled legislature. alex? >> absolutely, again, 20 of those 30 senators must vote positive. only one of those 16 articles of impeachment will then remove him from office.

we will be very closely watching this with your help. thank you so much. we have another big breaking story for you. special counsel, jack smith, requesting a narrow gag order in donald trump's d.c. federal election fraud case. he is asking the drudge to limit what trump can say about that case. citing disparaging and -- and potential threats. trump is in d.c. tonight, here's how he responded. >> jack smith, sounds so nice doesn't it. he is a deranged individual. he wants to take away my first amendment rights. they went to court to get an order, that i can't speak. >> let's get a little bit more right now from nbc's ali vitali right now. >> special counsel jack smith asking a d.c. judge to narrowly limit former president trump's ability to talk about the 2020 election interference. if granted this would include statements mr. trump makes about the identity and

credibility of potential witnesses. as well as disparaging comments about them or jurors or attorneys. it's one of the actions trump has already taken, prosecutors say. including repeatedly and widely disseminated statements affecting citizens of the district of columbia, the, court prosecutors, and prospective witnesses. the special counsel's request adding that the former presidents remarks can be both quote, inflammatory, and intimidating. mr. trump reacting overnight here in d.c., at a campaign event. and on social media. attacking the special counsel, and the process. saying in part, they lead, lie, and sue, and they won't allow me to speak? also calling prosecutors incompetent. trump's team now has ten days to respond. judge tanya chutkan carroll anytime at the end of september, whether or not to impose this narrow gag order. but it could have thick implications on the state of the 2024 race, and the ways in which the front runner himself can actually talk about some of the indictments that he is facing going into voting season. meanwhile, on the campaign

trail, you've got most of the rest of the field out in ottawa. trump skipping the events, and skipping those cases. not going where the field is. instead, everyone is going to be in iowa, unto conservative gatherings. nikki haley, vivek ramaswamy, the rest of the field all trying to capitalize on the fact that they can introduce themselves, and continue to to voters. without the former president looming over it. >> okay, thank you ali for that. well i just will be joined right now very quickly with former lead attorney for the committee. timothy. i've got a big interview with you coming up. but i want to get a big prediction with this gag order. isn't an effort to have donald trump sparking violent reaction from some of his supporters? >> yes i think it is, but i think it's more directed at ensuring a speedy trial. the judges already said that the urgency of getting this case tried is fueled in part by rhetoric by the defendant.

so i think what the government is doing is saying, hey, he continues your honor to arguably violates the conditions of release. that is setting up a more compelling case to keep the trial date on march the 4th. whether or not judge chutkan does impose a gag order. this is evidence that will help the government keep that trial on pace. the quicker echoes, the last potential damage is done by his extrajudicial statements. >> okay, i said one quick question. i'm in a stick to that. but i am gonna happiest take a round because i want to ask you how this the gag order will be enforceable, what would happen to donald trump if he were to violate it. so stay there for that. in the meantime, we have this breaking news everyone, in just the last few minutes, gm and ford confirming to nbc their teams, that the united auto workers are back at the negotiating table this hour. these are some live pictures where you are from out the ford plan in wayne, michigan. 50,000 automatic or's walk off the job, demanding pay and

benefits from the big three automakers. we are outside the stellantis plant in toledo, ohio. welcome, so i know this is the beginning of what could be a much larger strike. we are already hearing about these negotiations underway, but let's talk about the developments of what is hoped for in terms of negotiations this afternoon? >> either alex, and good afternoon to you. yes, that is the big news that you have officials from ford and gm now confirming that they are back at the negotiating table and that both sides are at the negotiating table after that pause in negotiations that took place yesterday. where things stand right now? well we know just hours before the strike, the uaw submitted to all big three automakers comprehensive counter proposal in their words, that obviously was not accepted. leading to the strike. but one thing that we know, and we know the demand and the sticking points that have existed so far. it is a 40% wage increases. they increased retirement

benefits, cost of living adjustments, shorter pay or shorter times that work. so a better work life balance. we know those sticking points. but i really want to share with you one conversation that i had earlier today that really puts that into context. that yes, workers know that they are not going to get everything that they have been asking and demanding. but, this gives you a sense of why they are willing to push as hard as they can. listen here. >> we had seniority employees that have not had raises in years. the economy has gone up, gas has gone up, food has gone up, everything is going up but our pay. we are here a lot of times six, seven, eight times a week working ten hours a day. we're giving them are everything, when they're giving us nothing. we've been giving up for years, and we are getting nothing. and it is time for a change. >> now, as we also learned this morning some details of the last, rejected offer from

stellantis, that included a 21% pay increase over the course of four years but a 10% increase for that first year. and it includes about a billion dollars and what they call, retirement investments. no specification on what that would look like. and also it included a pay increase for those temporary workers. workers and that tiered system that you continue to hear about who do the same job as some of the more senior workers. are working right next to them, but we're getting about $15 an hour. it bumps them up to about $20 an hour. so that was the latest offer from stellantis, as they have been detailing it. that is been rejected. but we know that both sides are back at the negotiating table. right now looking for a deal that both sides can except. alex? >> okay, shaquille brewster, in toledo, ohio. thank you very much for that. by the way, for all of you, i'm gonna be speaking with a member of congress about the potential impact of the strike as well. the january 6th text messages

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georgia judge ruled that he should not face trial in october. he won another delay in the trial set to begin in new york in october after suing the judge in that civil fraud case. and now he is hoping to delay his federal fraud election trial in d.c., by suing judge tanya chutkan. tim heaphy is back with me. tim, you know as well as anybody that delays are a part of the established trump framework. but before we get to that, let's go back to the breaking news that jack smith is seeking a limited gag order in the case. how would the judge enforce the gag order. let's say donald trump decides to violate it. and then could it end up with donald trump in custody? is that any sort of a plausible scenario? >> yes it is, i think unlikely, alex, given the magnitude here. and the fact that this is a candidate for president of the united states, it is an unprecedented situation. where she has the balance of protection of the jury pool, and the enforcement of the rules that say defendants

cannot say or do things publicly that may impact the jury pool and fairness in the trial with his rights as a candidate. the remedies for violation of a court order are contempt, and incarceration. exactly. you can also oppose a fine or try to have other conditions that might be designed to keep him from speaking but it's very difficult, as i said before alex i think what this does as it provides even more impetus to hasten the revolution. if he is out there continually trashing jack smith. all the more reason to get this resolved as soon as possible. so president trump has a first amendment right. but every time he talks about the deranged prosecutor, it makes that march 4th date more and more firm. >> so we know that trump's team filed a lawsuit claiming that judge chutkan is biased against him. and she citing the evidence of what she said, during sentencing of the january

defendant. claiming, that he went to the capitol at the trump's behest. and the main people involved had not been charged at that time. the judge said this. the issue of who has or has not been charged is not before me. i do not have any influence on that. you are not being sentence for your political views. when you left that rally, and went to the capitol, and engaged in combat with those law enforcement officers, that is what you are being punished for. tim, this judge has been very careful so far. how likely do you think she is to grant the gag order? >> i think again, she probably is very mindful, alex, of the possible reversal on appeal. once that bend over backwards to give the defendant in this case, the former president, and the current candidate all of the potential freedom and license that she can. i think that she is probably wisely seeing this is a side issue. that she does not want to deal with. so i think it is unlikely that she grants a gag order and if she does it will be very

circumscribed and limited and allow him to continue to speak publicly about other things. but i keep saying this. i just think all of this is going to make her extremely impatient and the ultimate remedy is the faster this is -- the faster it minimizes the damage. >> so given how much time you think trump can buy with these motions that lead to trial delays? and the fact that the d.c. court has been immersed in capital riot related trials. will that play any role in how quickly these motions are handled? >> i think he's gonna present some novel emotions that have not been presented in the other january 6th cases. judge chutkan established emotions schedule. i believe all motions need to be filed by appellate particular date in october or november. there's a briefing schedule already laid out. i think she participated when she sat the trial date, the filing of the motions. but the question then will become weather, let's assume she denies a motion to dismiss.

the president will say, this is all protected conduct. president of the united states, i can't be prosecuted for things that i do in my official capacity. if she says no, i disagree, this was beyond your official capacity. the question will become, does that get appealed immediately, or does that wait for the direct appeal? a lot of issues that are invents of trial are not appealed immediately. they wait until the event of a conviction and they get folded into the appeal of a conviction. that is uncertain. i do not know exactly what kind of motions he will file and whether they will be immediately appealable. so that is one possible delay. i don't think the filing of motions will be. she has already echoed for that in a pre-trial order. and the scheduling of the motions. >> okay, jack smith is still investigating january 6th. and this week an appeals court ruled to limit the doj's access to republican congresswoman scott perry's text messages. so it now requires a d.c. judge to review more than 1500 text

to and from people outside of congress before handing them over to the doj. tim, why are these texts so critical? did you get a sense of what could be in them from the text messages that mark meadows gave your january 6th committee? >> yes alex, good question. we did get a few texts. scott perry techs with mark meadows from metals himself. scott perry is a very interesting carry durr here. first of all we subpoenaed him, and he defied the subpoena and refused to talk about any of this with the select committee. he was right in the center of that proposed personnel change in the department of justice. we think that he was a person who introduced jeff clark, who is now charged as a defendant in the georgia case. to president trump as a possible acting attorney general who is prepared to take the department of justice into territory of trying to interfere in, or suggesting special sessions with the state election processes. that did not work but perry was

pushing, pushing meadows and probably pushing the president directly. it was also an object or with, and involved in with members of congress, who would or who would not reject the particular results on the floor. the judge is going to try to parse what is protected, what is legitimate, what might be privilege in some way. from what is potentially arguably criminal conduct. outside of the permissible scope of his roles in congress. this happens a lot, these are teams that do things for privilege and then pass what the team believes is not tainted on to prosecutors. it sounds like that's what's happening in this matter with perry texts's. >> you know one of the great ministries about mark meadows? what remains are his turning over of those texts to the january 6th committee. why didn't he pursue that then completely shut down and refused to cooperate further? >> i think it changed his mind, candidly, i think it was heading toward cooperating with us. we had a day for an interview,

for a transcribed interview, he was going on the record and we have been in discussion with his lawyers. he gave us the texts. unfortunately, the fact that he gave us the texts was leaked or reported. backlash from president trump directly and others. and i think he just got cold feet and change his mind. he did not want to risk the wrath of anger from the former president. his ball came out around that same time. in the book, he talked about the president having covid, being aware that he had covid. certain events that led to backlash. the all of that coincided at the time we were on the doorstep of getting him to cooperate with us. so look, i don't know what's in his head. it's a big decision to break from his former employer, particularly someone so powerful in republican party as president trump. but it seems to us like a change of course midstream after the provision of the text messages. >> okay, that will make sense. as you always do my friend, tim heaphy come see me again soon. thank you.

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today of republican congressman, can, buck going against the gop plan to impeach president biden. they call kevin mccarthy's excuse for impeachment flimsy. joining us from capitol hill, julie, welcome. it does not sound like there is consensus from republicans on the impeachment. what is congressman bucks argument? >> yeah alex, definitely no consensus. if there, was we would see the vote that mccarthy, the speaker, had originally promised. to launch an impeachment inquiry we know when it comes to that and of course he doesn't have the votes. it's not just moderate members, our members who won in biden districts who are vulnerable as it comes in the next election. it's also can bucks, who represents the most republican

district in colorado. someone who has been in congress for close to a decade. he spoke in the last couple of weeks against impeachment. overnight watching this really sounding opinion piece. if i could point to one part of the. he called it a smoking gun that connects joe biden to his son. of course that really is the main argument. that not only democrats are making, but also republicans who are squinting at the idea of this impeachment inquiry. and something that they hope as it goes on, they will be able to uncover more of. taken a listen to that exchange of this congressman from nebraska, he certainly a moderate republican. the congressman of course who is front and center on the democratic side, and it pursuing impeachment inquiries against former president trump. watch this. >> i recommended against it. but do not interpret that as a problem with the biden administration. >> if there is a vote you would support it? >> i recommended against the. but that rain has moved. >> republicans are engaging in

an evidence free, fact free, impeachment inquiry. and it has nothing to do with high crimes and, misdemeanors and has everything to do with kevin mccarthy's weakness of the speaker. and the fact that he is always just one vote away from losing his speakership. which means of the house is being run out by the most lays the common denominator. the mega congress. >> he's not wrong here, because one of the sessions that mccarthy made to get the gavel in the first place, which is that any member can call up a vote to remove him, to oust him from the chair, that is something we've been hearing a lot from congressman matt gaetz. he certainly one of those conservatives that didn't want him in that position in the first place. he feels like mccarthy has not made good on his promises. including on the government funding plan. which is up in about two weeks. they have to get it together, or the government will shut them. we will run out of money. this is all the things that mccarthy is contending with here. in the words of can, bucky call this a perfect storm for the speaker. i think at this, point mccarthy's job is safe. there is no one really to

replace him on this moment. but certainly, republicans pursuing this inquiry hope that they can pursue the evidence, it will lay itself out, and maybe they can connect some dots here. >> okay julie tsirkin, perfect setup for what i have coming on right now. joining me, democratic congressman mike quickly of illinois. we have a lot of things to get to, but your reaction to the republicans moving to impeach president biden. what is your overall reaction to that? and what are the democratic concerns for it? >> president biden's first day in office, marjorie taylor greene files her first impeachment. first day. fast forward to this week, matt gaetz says on one day, if you don't file the inquiry forward i am going to move forward and vacate you. the next day, the speaker files for. it's an announces the inquiry. i don't know where it's going, i don't think that they have the votes for it. but it's still a concern. >> hang on, are you saying that this is essentially pouring

down to a feud between matt gaetz and kevin mccarthy? >> it's not just matt gaetz, i think, i would have any of the 12 on the farthest right of the republican side that would have done this. i think they might have taken turns. >> and you don't think anything will come of this? >> the sound and fury signifying nothing, told by, the old shakespeare line, that reminds me of. i still think it has a real nature here. because a complex, what are we trying to do? we are trying to fund the government. and i think if we don't fund the government. if they go forward with an inquiry here. with no evidence. i think the biggest problem here is that it shows the rest of the world further evidence that we cannot govern. i think a time when we had the largest land war since world war ii in europe. and there are many more threats out there. we are showing the rest of the world that we can't govern that time, where we absolutely have to lead them. >> do you think republicans are willing to go that far? take that step of not funding the government. and know that they will likely be blamed for, it's

inappropriately so? >> i think you're gonna see the same ratio. look, we passed with bipartisan overwhelming votes. ability to get past the debt ceiling with that deal. we were going to, it gave us the funding levels of what we are trying to pass in the coming weeks. they reneged on that deal again because there is ten or 12, maybe 20 on this one, that say we're not going to support this and they are threatening the speaker. sure, the sort of damocles is over the speaker, but he helped put it there. >> the uaw strike, we got the big three being dragged against. talk about the big concerns with that, do you think the strike is justified? are you concerned about the economy, the way it might drag it down? what is your biggest worry here? >> to begin with, is it merited. i think the average ceo of the big three automakers, 40% increase over the last decade? uaw workers about 6% if

wherever gonna get to that disparity in this country between poor, middle class, and the very wealthy, we have to start with what the unions could do and sectors like this. sure, there is a big concern. it's not just 300,000 workers here that walked off the job. eventually that gets to all the supply chain workers. and, analysis seemed to show that if this expanded to all autoworkers, and it lasted ten days. that ten days would cost the economy five billion. >> millions of dollars, absolutely. do you think there is fall out due to a potential prolonged strike for the biden administration? i mean this is, he is the self-proclaimed most union friendly president in united states history. and he may well be but i am just saying this does not go well. >> anything that affects the economy, eventually, will have an impact on voters. but i think overall how people view it is going positive in a

rate. even though union membership has gone down. otherwise, i think most americans have already made up their minds with a favor. >> let me get to the recent here in the studio, which i am so glad you are. you came to new york to talk about the migrant crisis, to study what has been happening. it's something that mayor adam has complained about. because the city of new york has gotten about 100,000 migrants in this process. the greater area around new york city. i believe it's 19,000 migrant children enrolled in new york schools just this week. so, as we look at what this video is showing us. there is a lot of angry protesters out there. that is in new york city. so, what was that like for you? how much of this did you experience? >> i was at the first press conference with my colleagues from new york city. and witnessed the protest. i had some one tell me in the area, i'm from chicago.

so good luck with all of that. this country has a long history of migrants being scapegoats, pariahs, people we blame for everything. it is altering our history. but without migrants where our? week my friend john lewis, the late john lewis, said we may have come here in the different ships, but we are all in the same boat now. this economy, this labor market needs migrants. so if i cannot appeal to your hearts by seeing these little kids and all of them as migrants. trying to help them. i want to appeal to your brain. how important these migrants could be to our economy and growing it. chicago and new york. that's why i was there to show unity and learn about what is happening here. have a long history of welcoming migrants. and understanding just what they meant to go in the economies of both cities. >> did you learn anything from this? the migrant crisis? your discussions with mayor adams and what you hope to take back to chicago? >> i think it reinforces that we have to be united. we absolutely have to get more

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senior adviser and author of the breach, the untold story of the investigation into january 6th. welcome back, it's good to have you here. let's start with your reaction to donald trump's comments. there were several reports that trump spoke to a number of gop house members before the inquiry was announced. do trump's comments immediately delegitimized the impeachment inquiry because it's just retaliation? does he realize that's what he saying? >> i think so. histrionics, hysteria, dunton dragons mentality for congress is what's taking over. i don't know if you've heard, alex, i'm doing the hunter bra didn't friends x. we have the devices. the problem that the republicans are going to have is not a retaliatory mentioned that trump referred, to it's also the fact that data doesn't support it. we know there's no data in the public sphere that has any

forensic chain of command. that means a lot of publications have been wrong. a lot of reports of been wrong. that's from forensic scientists. there's issues republicans. have to cover up a lack of legislation and the best way to fund-raise it's over hyperbole and fantasy. this is retaliatory measures based on no data. really, not a whole lot of evidence either. it's crazy out there. >> you are referencing that which is in the public realm right now. i'm sure you can't be specific. is there anything that's giving you pause that you are uncovering. anything alarming anything you're, like hold on, this has to take a second or third look. >> no. we have more data then, my, goodness when i brought on they said would you help us? i'm not pro hunter and pro data. we deliver the data. they do what they want. you can see how aggressive the

hunter biden legal team has been. we have delivered a lot of forensics. at this, finds my job really what i did is -- counterterrorism and data analytics. this has not been a very difficult job for us as far as looking at the months and months. we certainly don't see anything that gives us concern. >> can you advise any current republicans there? this is a dead end. move on. >> i still have friends in the gop. the thing is, it's so politically viable. when you show that poll, the job of truth tellers is to help the 24% that are unsure. that's the. job data has to mean something. data has to mean something. when you listen to you can book. when you listen to don bacon, i know them, both i played baseball on the congressional team. i'm a former air force officer. those are two people that are

telling the truth. this is not a great path to go down. i think a lot of it has to do that they see this is a histrionic measure and it should be sad for the american people and they should be worried about the dead and government shutting down. they should be worried about legislation. >> what are the chances this goes to an inquiry? what are the chances it goes past the inquiry level? >> oh, well, they brought up a vote on it. they have to make sure they go back and tell people -- >>, okay let's switch gears and talk about what happened on wednesday which was this. utah seven or mitt romney says he's retiring at the end of his term. next month, there's a new bombshell biography. it is titled romney, a reckoning. that will be released them. will the atlantic published an excerpt that that is making headlines. quote, a very large portion of my party, he told me, one day doesn't believe in the constitution. he realized this only recently, he. said we were a few months removed from an attempted coup instigated by republican, leaders and he was wrestling

with some difficult questions. what is the authoritarian element of the gop a product of president trump, or had it always been there, just waiting to be activated by a sufficiently shameless demagogue. what role had the members of the mainstream establishment, people like, him the reasonable republicans, played in allowing the roth on the right to fester? that's heavy stuff. how would you respond to those questions? >> i think he's right. the first thing is, it's difficult to square integrity and winning elections now. they are almost exclusive. also, political herpes doesn't go away. if you have to treat it. a lot of people felt like this would go away. i think that's the issue is that you have to sort of say you have to take stock and say hey this isn't going to go away. he controls a massive part of the base with this personality that exercising the ridiculousness is going to take a lot of effort.

i think that's what he's saying there. he saying it eloquently. the simple fact is as your during video, you have to address the elephant in the room. that's the hyperbole and the weaponization of fantasy that's on january 6th. representation and monetization of histrionics and hyperbole that we're seeing the gop caucus. >> i'm gonna pull up another excerpt from the book. in short, he speaks about those congressman within we spoke with who said i can't vote the way my conscience which suggest. i'm worried for the safety of my family. is that something that still exists? >> it might. i don't know how many death threats i got. i like to hang him up on the wall and frame them. they're so nice i think we actually had an attempt where people took the -- so, there are some things that you worry about there. it's very impossible. the basis is engaged.

they can be enraged. they share the same wedding they got destroyed. i think you do start to get worried law in a committee room. only whether them likes. you either you gotta be tough or you sort of roll over. i think a lot of people are rolling over. they want to win the elections. >> let me ask you about this lauren boebert, the republican congressman pretty much under fire for her disrespectful of noxious actions at the sweep. kyle clark from the affiliate has the story from denver. take a listen. liat >> boebert, boebert, boebert, save three times and she appears. security video from a weekend performance of bills, use the congressman was kicked out of the theater for being disruptive. the d.c. p.a. says she was vaping. barber's team denied that and say is that the haze was from progressions. the claim goes up in smoke when you see the video. the pregnant women sitting behind boebert told the denver post she asked her to stop vaping and boebert refused.

her one woman show continued, taking flash float owes, raise our hands and dancing. the only one clapping are standing up in the crowd. she occasionally took a break to enjoy the company of her male companion. he briefly had a grasp on the situation before ushers returned and told boebert she had to leave. the theaters incident report says boebert pulled a don't you know who i am card. appearing to give theater employees the single finger salute. >> despite denying that she did any wrong, she apologized, she's serving in congress. by the, way nearly escaping being voted out next november. she is the position of influence thanks to being part of the house freedom caucus. what goes through your mind when you see that kind of behavior from an elected official, quickly. >> when you're smoking, joke in, and poking like boebert was doing, she forgot one thing. she was confused. people say you're supposed to reach across the, aisle i think lauren got very confused about what that actually meant.

i think it's pretty insane when you watch somebody that's that ridiculously, not just, arrogant it's the arrogance and ignorance based on arrogance. the fact that she was treating people around her that way. she's really not fit to serve. i think it's adam who's running against her in colorado. i think you do need adults in the. room it goes full circle to your first question. all the way to why impeachment? while the hyperbole. while histrionics. fantasy. why did under the dragon mentality? you have it right there along boebert. vaping and thinking that she was an after ten pm show in 1987 in the backroom in high school. it's sort of ridiculous. i think it went through my mind, we can't have people like that serving our country. we cannot people eat that serving. >> we will see of her constituents agree next time around. thank you so much. good to see you. at the top of the, hour three

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