tv Yasmin Vossoughian Reports MSNBC September 17, 2023 12:00pm-1:00pm PDT
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>> donald trump makes a startling admission about who he listened to when it comes to election interference and has him now facing potential prison time i get expert legal analysis on what this could mean for the case against former president. plus i will speak to congresswoman and former impeachment manager diana about how this new inquiry is far different than what she and her colleagues said and an nbc exclusive. movement by republicans that could be a game-changer when it comes to federal marijuana policy. and have legalization advocate steering. all of that, plus, a surprise about face from drew barry moore. the details about that ahead as well. we want to start with our breaking news, and day three of the historic auto workers strike. the white house now to get more involved in trying to find a solution. president biden personally dispatching acting secretary, julie, who will physically be in detroit earlier this week to have the talks. i want to bring in from the
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picket line, shaq brewster, where are we at this hour? what are you hearing from folks there? >> we just actually heard from the uaw representative on the uaw that says they confirm conversations with ford have been going on, and conversations with gm have been going on. what we've been looking over the past day. they're at least talking. we know conversations are happening at this point, after we have entered day three of the strike. we do also know in terms of conversations and communication between uaw and stellantis, they've been talking a lot through the media. a lot of statements back and forth about the terms and offers that have been out there. let's just reset things a little bit right now. we know there uaw is asking for significant wage increase. we're talking about 40% increase over the course of four years. they want cost of living adjustments, better work life balance, also asking for pensions. those are among the demands that they are making. we know some of the automakers have been exchanging offers with the uaw.
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we know that the wage increases have gone up to about 20% over the course of four years. that there have been some changes to investments to retirement but there is still a significant gap between the two. and when you talk to striking workers, people who are out here overnight into the morning hours day in and day out. they say yes, they understand this is the sacrifice. they are not making the money that they normally would make being out here on strike. they believe this is a righteous cause. listen to some of the conversations of and having. >> if it can benefit us, i'm all for a strike. whether it's losing some dollars, or not seeing my family. >> this is a bigger fight, then just the big three. it's not just about us. we raise the standard for everybody across the u.s.. and when we get pay raises, everybody else underneath us as to. >> the post back that you've been hearing from the auto companies is that they can't afford to mates uaw's demands. they are saying that it's not
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sustainable, you have heard executive saying that they said it could lead to bankruptcy. another executive saying that it would make them competitive compared to automakers out there that aren't unionized, but this is something that is going to go on for a while, we know it's just plants that have been directly impacted by a strike at this point but the uaw saying that they reserve the right to expand to other plans in other areas if they are feeling like they are not making significant process at the bargaining table. and again, as we heard at this morning, when sean fail, the uaw president was on our network this morning. he said that progress has been slow at this point. >> shaq brewster fresh, thank you, shaq appreciate it. we want to get to some potential legal implications from the former president wide waging interview with the press moderator, kristen walker. i want to play a portion where trump openly discuss how he viewed his role surrounding the campaign of false fraud. he and his team perpetuated following the election. >> you called some of your
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outside lawyers, you said they had crazy theories, why were you listening to them? were you listening to them because they were telling you what you wanted to hear? >> you know who i listen to myself? i saw what happened. i watch the election, and i thought the election was over at 10:00 in the evening. >> were you calling the shots though? >> in fact, molly wrote a great book. >> but were you calling the shots? ultimately? >> molly hemingway, highly respected and great, she wrote a book, a bestselling book called raked. >> were you calling the shots though mister president? ultimately? >> as to whether or not i believed it was raked, sure? it was my decision. >> let's bring in msnbc legal analyst barbara mcquade to talk more about this. he was calling the shots as to whether or not he believed it was rigged. he was calling the shots. is that going to be played on repeat in front of jurors during a trial against the former president? >> i think there's a good chance that we will hear that at a trial. one reason that lawyers will
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tell their clients to say nothing when charges are pending is because everything they say is fair game and can be used in court. and so, maybe this becomes relevant, maybe not, but if for example his lawyers want to take a strategy that he was just listening to lawyers, they were leading him astray, that he was following, he was doing what he thought was best because he was getting legal advice, it's going to be difficult that when we play this recording where he says i was calling the shots. so it's the reason, exhibit a, why lawyers always tell their clients that while you're awaiting trial you should keep your mouth shut. >> so that is what it comes at like shunts, i want to talk about the mar-a-lago documents case as well. he was talking about wanting to erase tapes. and we know i believe it was individual number four, i could get that wrong, who provided testimony to jack smith, and saying that the former president asked for some of the tapes to be erased.
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he was asked by this by crusted, i want to play that portion for you, also talking about the fact that he will testify as well. let's listen. >> okay, i want to ask you about the case related to mar-a-lago. the new charge suggests you asked a staffer to delete security camera foliage so it wouldn't get to the hands of investigator. >> it falls. >> would you testify to that under oath? >> it's a fake charge. >> so he said he's gonna testify, right? i'm not sure if his defense attorneys are actually going to want him to do that. who knows if that's actually going to happen. and whether or not they were erased or not, is not really the question. it's about the fact that he had asked his employees to erase those tapes. and it seems as if in this moment the former president is going to make this into a he said he said argument. it's not like the former president has much of a reputation when it comes to truth telling? >> i also think is not telling
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the truth when he says he's going to testify. i would be stunned if he does, fall through, and testify. but we've heard him say this before. remember when robert mueller wanted to interview him and he said, you bet, i want to tell my side of the story. and eager to sit down and talk with him. of course he never had any intention to do that. and it didn't happen. he had some written questions with his lawyer. it's also like, remember a few weeks ago he said he had an expert report proving how he had actually won the 2020 election. he was gonna give a big press conference on monday. but his lawyers told him he couldn't. it's all a bluff, it's all a con. but he is not bound by it. and that is because no matter what he says now, that is one thing that will be kept from a jury at trial, a jury cannot know that he said i will testify because he is absolutely right not to testify. and so that will not come up. so he can promise to testify all he wants, and i think in the court of public opinion that can be valuable to him because his supporters will say, see, he wants to tell the truth. he has nothing to hide. in fact, i would be very surprised if he really does
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follow through and testify. >> when you think of everything being fair game, it was all laid out and all of the indictment. speech that he made, things that he said on television, we now know there has been evidence obtained by jack smith's team of things that he said on twitter, direct messages from twitter, draft tweets that he had planned on setting out on twitter as well, all a part of the cachet of evidence it seems, that smith's team has, and we believe fani willis has as well, he was also asking about mark meadows, and i don't know whether you said on this, as to whether mark meadows has flipped at all, where do you think we are with that? >> i don't know, early on, i thought he had it. that's because he wasn't charged in the federal case. he wasn't even listed as an unindicted coconspirator. that led me to believe that he had left and was testifying, was cooperating. but his inclusion in the georgia case, in the fani willis indictment maybe reconsider that. and then his own testimony at the removal hearing made me
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wonder whether he is cooperating. and at the moment, my conclusion is no. i think that any lawyer worth his salt here, a very good lawyer represents mark meadows, would have resolved all of the cases against mark meadows before he allowed him to cooperate. there's not much value in cooperating in one venue, and not the other. because if you do go ahead and testify to get a benefit in federal courts, then the statements you use their that implicate yourself can be used against you in state court. so it seems like you have to have all or nothing. and right now we've got the split treatment, so i think we have to wait and see how this shakes out. >> barbara mcquade, as always, very thankful for you. we also want to note that the same invitation mr. trump or save to sit down with kristen has been extended to the president. are controversial comments by the legendary founder of rolling stone magazine gets him kicked off the board of the rock and roll hall of fame. we will tell you what he said next. plus, a sudden change of heart from drew barry moore, the details coming up in just 16 seconds. seconds. solutions...
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baking news out of los angeles. a man hunt for a gunman is underway after the deadly shooting of a sheriff's deputy. it's being described as an ambush. 30 year old deputy, ryan was shot in the head saturday night by an unidentified attacker. he was rushed to the hospital but ultimately died from his injuries, the sheriff says he thinks the deputy was shot merely because he was wearing his uniform. but stress the investigation is still ongoing. wanting to switch gears here, british comedian russell brand is denying allegations of rape, sexual assault, abuse. the allegations service from a joint investigation published by a british newspaper this weekend. they detail alleged abuse based on allegations from pullman, who knew him over a seven year period at the height of his fame. brand says this, admits this lately of astonishing, rather baroque attacks are some very serious allegations that i absolutely refute. nbc has not independently
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confirmed any of the allegations against brand. jann wenner, the man who cofounded rolling stone magazine is now out from leadership of the rock and roll hall of fame. it comes after comments made by jann wenner that were disparaging towards black and female musicians. nbc's dana griffin has more. >> those offensive comments made during an interview to promote his latest book, latest white backlash and sparking his fellow board members to vote him out. >> rolling stone magazine cofounder, jann wenner, explained why he only included white men in his new book, the masters. a collection of interviews with barack lichens like mick jagger, john legend, and bono. >> they were just, none of them were as articulate enough on an intellectual level. >> you're telling me joni mitchell is not articulate enough? >> it's not that they're not creative geniuses. it's not that they're
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inarticulate. although, go have a deep conversation with grace slick, or janis, please be my guest. >> those comments published friday, from an interview in new york times magazine. now criticize as sexist and racist. the foundation winner helped create issuing terse statements out there saying, jann wenner has been removed from the board of directors of the rock and roll hall of fame foundation. overnight, jann wenner producing an apology. in my interview with the new york times. i made comments that diminished the contributions, genius, an impact of black and women artists. and i apologize wholeheartedly for those remarks. >> rock and roll has been giving us the truth about america, and we have the responsibility of doing something about, it and having our voice heard, and deciding where this country is going. more than ever. >> the hall of fame has faced past criticism for not embracing more diverse artists. >> rock and roll hall of fame. please, 2020, inducted more women. thank you so much. >> but some critics have
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applauded recent changes. in the newest class of inductees include capers, cheryl crow, and missy elliott. >> maybe i should've gone and found one black and one woman artist included it here. i wish and interviewing marvin gaye, he may have been the guy. >> in a recorded interview, he did know that he did not include black artist because they did not articulate enough to put the word masters. the title of his book, said to be released september 26th. >> i have to say, no thanks to jann wenner, but thank you to dana griffin for that. another controversy, this in the popular daytime talk show, the drew barrymore dead in its tracks. announcing today that she is not bringing her show back until after the hollywood strike and. this is after she faced some pretty sharp criticism for saying that the show would return, without any rioters. the host and celebrity wrote in an instagram post, i have no words to express my deepest apologies to anyone that i've
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federal marijuana reform could be one step closer to reality. that's because most will people involved in the process tell nbc news that a key hearing on a bill to extend banking services for legal marijuana businesses is expected at the end of the month. it is a sign that the bill could have enough votes to pass, after republicans softened their stance. nbc congressional correspondent julie tsirkin has more on this exclusive reporting for us. julie, how significant would this bill be? and how likely is it that it passes? >> well it's very likely it passes. this has been a bill years in the, making its passed in the house and many times, never got the light of day in the senate, in large part because of the republican leadership, especially leader mcconnell. they've been really hesitant to move any kind of deal at the federal level, when it comes to cannabis reform. now, to be clear here yasmin, this bill does nothing to legalize marijuana recreationally, right. this bill is really targeted to
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help legal cannabis businesses out here. because i talked to many of them, and they are contending with this patchwork of laws around the country, when it comes to how they can operate their businesses. 40 states, in addition to d.c., have some kind of legal use of marijuana, whether it's medical or recreational, and have been operating on all cash basis. we've seen a heightens in robbery, and crimes, and marijuana businesses around the country, even legal once. they really have to operate with -- cash, because they can't work with traditional based, given the federal legal status of cannabis as it comes. so, this is going to be the first time the senate has marked up any legislation when it comes to cannabis reform. i'm told by republicans who are involved in the process, that there are enough votes for it to pass, and it would be very significant, because it would lay the groundwork for future forms at the federal level. right, now you have the biden administration wanting to reschedule cannabis from 1 to 3, that would certainly remove some of these loopholes that we've been seeing, and some of these issues that canada's
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business owners have been running into. but you also have democrats, particularly pushing things that criminal justice reform, equity provisions, to make cannabis really equitable to everybody across the country, especially as we've seen more and more states, some conservative ones as well, coming out in favor of legalizing it. so bottom line here, a very big deal, and it could open the door to some more federal reforms in the future. we expect this -- to take place at the end of the month, and certainly will be one to watch on the floor, and won that a majority of issue groups said is a big priority for him. can >> you talk about schumer, i know there's been some also changes made to the dress code, at the capitol. i believe, instituted, announced by senator schumer, what's happening there? >> yeah, so this is something that he quietly did. a source confirms to myself, my colleague -- that schumer on friday, had sort of asked the sergeant in arms, who enforces this informal dress code that national longer quiet require centers you may have seen
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senators kyrsten sinema they've -- walked around in -- use -- wearing a vest, one-time resigning over the floor. and certainly, you've seen john fetterman, who prefers his hoodie, and his gym shorts to the traditional suit and tie. starting this, week starting tomorrow, that dress code, the informal, when it's never been written anywhere, according to people that i have spoken to. but, now, they will be able to go along the chamber formally, they won't get stopped by the sergeant at arms that police is this. but you know who will, yasmin? staff still. will so i see a tweet from senator john -- a republican, saying is this a double standard, it certainly seems like. one we will certainly wear more as the week goes on. but yeah, this only applies to senators. and, it's unclear how this will change anything on the house side. >> julie tsirkin for us, i guess that is gonna have the stay dressed up while senators are able to roll in after a quick workout. thank you. facing a government shutdown in a matter of weeks, house republicans are focused on an impeachment inquiry, president biden up next in congresswoman,
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into you? >> lots of luck. >> he says, lots of luck. the former president, meanwhile, who some believe may have had a behind the scenes role in rushing and pushing that inquiry, had the chance to directly respond on meet the press earlier today, with -- >> my question for you, did you talk to speaker mccarthy about this house? >> no, no i didn't talk to him. >> did you tell him >> no, i don't think he would do that. i mean, he wouldn't do it based on me. >> did you talk to your republican allies on capitol hill, and say you should support this? >> no, i don't have to. they are -- they think it's terrible, i want to remind folks, by the way, that our reporting as well, that the former president actually had a kneel and dinner with speaker mccarthy, along with marjorie taylor greene, just a few days before the announcement of that impeachment inquiry. joining us now is democratic congressman diana degette of colorado, who served as an impeachment manager during
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donald trump's second impeachment. congressman -- talking first about, your reaction to the former president distancing himself from this impeachment inquiry. and, even going so far as to say that your colleagues across the aisle, are even more proactive than he is. >> well, thanks yasmin for having me. i will say that, i don't know exactly what was discussed at the dinner with speaker mccarthy and marjorie taylor greene, and mr. trump. but i will say that kevin mccarthy is desperate to try to both not shut down the government, and to keep his job. i think what this was, this so-called impeachment inquiry that he has started, was really a hail mary pass, that he took on. he didn't even have the votes to put it on the, floor so he just announced it. he was hoping that his far right members of the caucus would come in to line, and they
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just laughed. so, that didn't work for kevin. but what's more concerning is, it's really an abuse of a very, very serious tool, that should only be used in the most extreme circumstances, where there is evidence of high crimes and misdemeanors. >> i want you to expand on that. because, you wrote a tweet when this impeachment inquiry was announced, we offering to this dangerous tool, as you are putting it. far-right republicans have been demanding an impeachment inquiry. and today, speaker mccarthy gave into those demands, innate -- and dangerous gambit to appease these radical members, and to avoid a government shutdown. >> strong on that? >> now, there is no evidence that joe biden, president biden, has engaged in any activities that would even give rise to an investigation of high crimes and misdemeanors. the republicans have been
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trying to find evidence, ever since they took the majority in january. and, they haven't found a thing. and so, to suddenly say well, we are going to launch an impeachment inquiry, that's just an abuse of the system. i've been in congress last three impeachments, and all three of those, even though i disagreed with the impeachment of bill clinton, but all three of those incidents were based on an event that was quantifiable. in donald trump's case, the first time was when he called president zelenskyy, and he tried to get him to open an investigation of hunter biden, in exchange for u.s. aid. and of course, the second impeachment inquiry was, was started by the january 6th incitement. and so, all of those things had quantifiable evidence. here, it's just generalized
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gripes about president biden. >> i want to ask you about a pending, or potential government shutdown, with the house back in session finally, starting this week. you wrote this. we are hurtling towards a potential government shutdown, that would impact every american, and could do harm to our economy. and, house republicans don't have the votes for their extreme budget proposals. they are filling in their attempt to govern, and this is just a distraction from that. >> right. >> when you look at the potential of this government shutdown, what could be the impact of that, and how confident are you that that is where we are headed? >> so, the problem is that there is a group of far-right extremists, some of whom don't even think we should have a federal government, some of whom don't see the impact of a shutdown. but, if we shut down. or i should say, if the republicans shut down the government, then this group could wreak havoc with the
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economy, and with all of the things people need to do in this country. it would put thousands of federal employees without a paycheck, steeple couldn't get into national parks. i mean, there are so many implications to what this would do. what i worry about, because kevin mccarthy has only a four vote majority, and the maga caucus seems to be making all of these demands that are on reasonable, but also very vague. i worry that he will, he will do that. and i am very concerned about our economy, and our country. >> i want to pivot just for a moment. i want to talk quickly about the presidents son, hunter biden, indicted on three separate gun charges. are you worried about how that could play, politically, for the president, going into an election year? >> well, hunter biden was a very troubled person, he had substance abuse issues, and a
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lot of issues. i think that, i think that the fact that prosecutors are moving forward with charges, shows that our system is working. of course, hunter biden is presumed innocent, until proven guilty. but, i think that, i think it's kind of laughable, and i'm using, that the republicans are talking about this. because, hunter biden has never had a place in the biden administration, like donald trump's kids did. there's been no allegation, and no proof, that hunter biden exerted the kind of influence that we saw in the last administration. so, i think that the investigation is needs to move forward. but i think it's just a distraction, to the complete destruction of the republican party right. now >> and, hunter biden is not running for reelection as president of united states. congresswoman diane to get in colorado, thank you so much, we appreciate it. i want to continue this conversation, with msnbc political contributor and
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former chief presidential campaign strategist matthew dowd. matthew, as always, it is a pleasure. >> thank you. >> so you just heard from congresswoman degette, talking about how, essentially, this launching of this impeachment inquiry into president biden is an abuse of the system, it's a dangerous gambit, right. you think about the precedent that this sets. and this is exactly kind of the conversation that we had, i think, with the impeachment of former president donald trump. way back when, saying that when push comes to, shove republicans will be using this, as revenge. what do you make of that, and the future of, the tool of impeachment? >> well, it's incredibly worrisome, that it has come to this place where, you don't have evidence, and then you start impeachment inquiry. you start impeachment inquiry, and then look for evidence. and, that's exactly what this is. every other impeachment inquiry that we've had in the history of the country, started out
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with some real, substantive evidence, that there may have been a problem. and really, the debate was over whether or not that evidence, or whether or not those actions met the standard that the constitution states, of high crimes and misdemeanors. that is not the case here. and if we are going to be in this system, i hope the democrats don't adopt this, to take power, and the republicans -- adopt this standard, but for the republicans to adopt this standard, just really puts a deterioration of our constitution in the course of this, and it makes it so we are not going to have functional. government >> i want to read a couple quotes in the washington post, kind of jumping off what you just said. with impeachment proceedings were not meant to start with theories. you know, the world turn upside down, that is what mccarthy has done. in another quote, the low point in history, the loss of impeachment as a meaningful mechanism for restraining a sitting president, would weaken our constitutional system. i guess the question is, what
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are you expecting, going forward with this impeachment inquiry? and do you expect real articles of impeachment here, whether there is evidence or not? and, from our understanding, there is no evidence right now. >> i mean, your guess is as good as mine, on the crazy caucus that has become the republicans in this thing. i would expect, if they're going to launch an impeachment inquiry without evidence, i wouldn't be surprised if they launched articles of impeachment, without evidence. what my guess is that happens, is that there is enough republicans in the house, that don't want this to go forward, that there will be articles adopted by the crazy part of the party, which is the majority, and then when the vote comes on the floor of the house, it will pass. that's my guess, that also is totally dependent upon what evidence exists out there that we have not seen, and none of us have seen in this. but, that's my guess. it will be put up for a vote, some articles will be put up for a vote, but there is enough
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republicans that are incredibly vulnerable to this, that they will ultimately -- and it won't pass the house. that is a guess. >> i want to talk about mitt romney. he has made some headlines this week, one of which, the fact that he is retiring. the other is, speaking out about the state of the republican party, the state of the gop. and, let me read you just some quotes here that he said. i don't know that i can disrespect someone more than j.d. vance, it's like, really? you saw yourself so cheap. saying about josh hawley and ted cruz, making a calculation, putting politics above the interests of liberal democracy, and the constitution. and then he says this, a very large portion of my party, really does not believe in the constitution. at this point. >> matthew dowd, is he just shouting in to a dark tunnel? >> well, i think if he is standing in the republican caucus room, he is shouting into that tunnel. although i think it's an
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important voice for somebody that, was the republican standard bearer in 2012, and has been a leader in the republican party, is a very conservative member of the republican party. for him to say that, i think it's important in america writ large, but not necessarily the republican park. >> two who though? important to who? >> well i think it's important that people get the signal. so, democrats are already going to be lined up in this situation, and that's going to become partisan. so, swing voters out there, who need some -- from somebody, they don't trust either side. somebody like mitt romney saying that, i think is important to swing voters, who are trying to figure out what's going on in the course of this. and if a conservative republican says, that it gives it a tremendous amount of. credibility >> mapped out, as always, thank you sir, appreciate you. >> all right, it was a death that sparked a revolution. one year, after mass amini died in the custody of iran's morality police, i will look at where the movement for women's
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but in an interview with mbs -- the iranian president said the funds will be used for quote, wherever we need it, it contention the white house disputes. in exchange, five americans who the state department says have been unjustly detained, would return home, including a -- in iran. in addition, iran is looking for five prisoners of its own, to be released as part of the deal. the state department has declined to comment on that aspect of these go this coming, as yesterday marks the one year anniversary of the death of mahsa amini. the 22-year-old iranian woman, who is taken to custody of the country's morality police, and later on died. around the world, protesters gathered to commemorate the day, from new york in washington to spain, germany, the uk, and beyond. meanwhile, inside iran, security forces, cracking down on any demonstrations, and in los angeles earlier this week, the city council voting to name a street intersection, in honor of mahsa amini, an area with predominantly iranian businesses. joining me now is --
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, a managing partner of -- and a good friend of the show. most, it's been a while. it's so good to talk to you my friend, thank you for joining us on this. >> i am super happy to speak you, thanks for having me. >> one year in, how are you feeling? >> look, this is the first women led revolution we have ever seen, in the history, that i know of, in our lifetimes certainly. and to think that a woman led revolution, that started in the name of mahsa amini has now reached the streets of every major city around the world, mobilizing boys, man, workers, labor union workers, we are talking about people who have actually gotten out of their, homes and into the streets around the world. and i think that, you have to acknowledge that women of iran have inspired a worldwide movement for freedom. and so, for us, this is just the beginning, and i don't believe that this is the and. i actually believe it's the end of the islamic republic, and
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the regime at hand. >> so, as we think about the momentum of this movement, right, and of this revolution. it was certainly moving, in the first couple of months, after the death of nasa amini. and then, there was a slowing, and of course them news cycle moves on, and life happens, and things slow down, right. so as we look ahead, with this movement, and you think about how the diaspora has played such an integral role in spreading this message. what needs to be done, to keep what the iranian woman arguing every single day inside around, a live? >> to keep this movement alive, and to support the people of iran, we need to keep iran online. this government is throttling the internet, they are throttling power, water, oil, resources, food. the fundamentals, people cannot send their children to school without worrying that their girls are going to be poisoned in schools. there are 22,000 people
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arrested for protesting, journalists, actors, people are being buried, and they are not even told where they can go find their dead, deceased, murdered families. so, we need to keep iran online, e to work with technology companies, to keep iran online, and to support vpn efforts, startling efforts. because free internet, in fact democracy, is the only way we're gonna be able to support the will of the people of iran. >> so, having unity with technology companies, working with, them making sure that the iranian government is not able to shut down the internet. what about unity amongst democratic nations in the? west >> >> right, as all of this is happening in iran, how do you achieve? that >> well, i have always believed that the way that iran becomes the democracy it wants to, be is going to be through aspects of negotiation. the western world has to agree to come together, to stop doing business with the islamic republic. whether it's from shell companies, or partners that are located, whether they are in china, or russia, or what have
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you. this has to be a business arrangement, and the world has to see that the region in the world is a better place with a democratic iran. the islamic republic are a bunch of brute, brutal dictator terrorists, that there terrorism knows no boundaries. they have no boundaries to what they will do, to maintain power. and this is not just about religion, this is not about faith, this is about money and power. these people are billionaires, and they have extorted their own people, extorted their own people, to become mass billionaires, at the hands of their -- . and, they deserve better. >> freezing iran out, okay. but, we also have to talk about the deal that's happening now. the release of these six, unjustly held prisoners inside iran, the exchange of the six billion dollars, that's going to be released to the qatari government, to manage this money, to be used for humanitarian purposes, inside iran. where are you on this deal? because essentially, the united states did business with iran, and it's hard, because through
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this business, they are getting people that have been unjustly held, released, right. and, let them go back to their family. >> look, this is the specialty of the islamic republic. they have found a way to commercialize their terrorism, this is what they are good at. they understand how to -- tear flavor of terrorism. and this is how they do it, they did in the 80s, they've done over the past 43 years. this deal is highly controversial, there are good things about, or there are bad things about it. and it's very very complicated, but i think everybody once wish would be that people stop making deals with the islamic republic. i think that is the wish, then i think the more governments, the more companies essentially freeze them out. look, iran is a failed state, they are failing economically. people cannot afford to eat, put gas in their cars, they are earning not a living wage, this country is a failed state, and the sooner that happens, the will of the people, they will come on the streets, and they will reject this government, and we will see a democracy at
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hand. >> -- one last question. when we think about starlink, right, startling obviously was instituted in ukraine, led by elon musk. have there been conversations about having an entity like starlink, in iran to allow iranians to have full throttled access to the internet, without control by the iranian government? >> look, the best route for us to keep iran on line right now is, working with our friends, -- and really, empowering their vpn efforts. and, vpns are the flavor of choice for iranian citizens. the average iranian citizen at something like 50 son -- it's a four, double its economic. the concept of the startling is amazing, and it's a get one, but getting them to, scale and getting them in the hands of working class. because, that's who really needs access to the free internet, are the people on the streets, the working class, to people who are actually experiencing these fatalities firsthand. vpns are the best way to continue to support a free iran, and keeping the internet
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event, carrying a loaded pistol, wearing what appeared to be a u.s. marshal batch, and asking to be taken to the candidate. the campaign alleging that security also found a backpack with another handgun, knives, and ammunition, before calling police. >> tattoos on his neck on hands, wearing any empty shirt, holding a u.s. marshals band, and -- showed -- l.a. police telling us, they arrested 44-year-old -- . he is accused of carrying a concealed weapon. >> my name is adrian paul -- >> this video, posted to tiktok back in july, police say -- never drew his gun, or threaten anyone at kennedy's event. the incident, happening just miles from where kennedy's father was shot and killed during his own presidential bid in 1968. five years earlier, jfk was shot to death and dallas, the families tragic history, partially driving rfk junior's request for secret service protection. a request, the campaign says, has been twice denied. former secret service agent --
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says those requests could now be worth another look. >> in the decision-making process of whether or not he should get protection, my humble opinion is, i think he should. you have enough factors here, showing vulnerability, showing that there is danger to his life. >> my thanks to erin -- for that report. before we go, i want you to think back to the last time you made a real connection with someone, or a conscious effort to understand the people in the things around you. it is what artists -- has invited us all to do, with her latest installation gathering. the structure weaves across 13,000 square feet of land on -- in your city, fastened together by, get this, strands of rope. and whether you want to try -- or soak up the september sun with a picnic, there is plenty of room to foster long-lasting connections, even after the piece is gone. there is just two weeks left to check it out, and i -- hope we got you think about taking the time to connect with people around you. it is what we could all use,
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especially at a time when the world can feel so very divisive. that wraps it up for me. i'm yasmin -- . i'm working a lot of this week, you can catch me on news now monday and tuesday, and here at msnbc wednesday from threat. a. i'll be back next saturday and sunday as well, two pm eastern, right here. simone, starts right now. >> greetings everyone, you're watching symone. lawmakers have only eight working days to hammer out a deal, to keep the federal government open, before the shutdown deadline. speaker kevin mccarthy says he expects an agreement this week, but the top house democrat says, republicans are in the middle of a civil war, that's hurting taxpay
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