president's east son is suing. hunter biden taking aim at two whistleblowers, accusing them of making private information public. the long trip home, five americans held prisoner for years free at last, the emotional reunions and the political fallout. back to the negotiating table, united auto workers turned down an offer to end the strike now in day four against the big three auto makers. plus, one of the key players in donald trump's alleged plot to overturn the election, making a new move in georgia. the high stakes as jeffrey clark tries to move his case to federal court. our nbc news reporters are following all of the latest developments. we begin with that new development in the hunter biden saga as the president's son sues irs. nbc's ryan nobles joins us now from washington. what more can you tell us about this, ryan? >> reporter: under any circumstance, chris, this is an effort by hunter biden and his

attorneys to go on the offensive, accusing the irs and in specific, these two irs whistleblowers who came forward and testified that they believe he was given preferential treatment by the irs and the fbi during their investigation into his efforts to evade taxes. in this lawsuit, hunter biden's attorneys allege that they improperly released private information about his tax returns and that that's against the law and that there should be a punishment accordingly. now, the two irs agents at the center of this who both testified publicly under oath to the congress, gary shapley, and joe ziegler, both have said that they have the ability and the right to answer these questions because, a, they were under protections afforded them through whistleblower protections but then at the same time, this was something that congress authorized to be made public, and that's why they did so. now, in terms of how this affects the ongoing efforts to prosecute hunter biden, heroes of course facing multiple

charges, gun charges, and the possibility of being indicted on tax charges from the plea arrangement that fell apart a couple of months ago. this information is out there, it's in the public sphere, you can't necessarily take that information back. it shows that biden and his team are trying to show that this is a political exercise, and that he has been unfairly targeted by those who would like to harm his father in the court of public opinion. so the sum total of all of this is it doesn't change the dynamics of the potential charges against him, but it is an effort for his team to push back to a certain degree about the conversation that's surrounding him, chris. >> ryan nobles, thank you. no deal yet in that coordinated strike against the big three auto makers. cnbc's morgan brennan joins us for cnbc on msnbc, day four. give us a sense of what we know about how far apart these two sides are? >> i think there is a lot of space between these two sides, chris, and if it needs to, the

union is potentially willing to widen the scope of the strikes. that's the message from united auto workers shawn fain on "morning joe" earlier today. have a listen. >> we still have a long way to go, and that's going to be up to the companies on how this plays out. we'll see how things progress the next few days, and, you know, if we have to amp up pressure, that's what we're going to do. if the companies don't respond to the members' demands we have to do what we have to do. we're far apart on several issues. >> the negotiations cover 145,000 uaw members, across general motors, ford, and stellantis. since the contract expired last friday, are strikes have been coordinated across three facilities, producing the ford bronco, jeep wrangler, and chevrolet colorado among others. but fain saying the union could expand that. analysts expect that could mean factories that build profitable

vehicles like pickup trucks that could be the next target. stellantis and uaw back at negotiating table today. the uaw wants a 40% pay hike over the course of the multi-year contract. the auto makers are proposing increases of 20%. the uaw wants reduced 32-hour workweek, return of traditional pension plans. elimination of the paid tier system and a flurry of benefits. it points to the profit windfalls as the car makers made a lot of money amid supply chain issues and higher prices, and workers made stipulations and left stuff on the table as the auto makers were bailed out in 2009. the auto makers are paying $4 billion into the electric vehicle transition. they're arguing the economics are changing and basically that the asks are unsustainable. jim farley, the ceo of ford, closing bell overtime last week saying that the current demands have been in place that the company would be bankrupt. you're already seeing ford let

go of some workers indefinitely. not striking workers, i might add and gm saying they might idle a plant that would affect workers later this week as well. basically, the clock is ticking, chris, and we'll see how it all unfolds. >> morgan brennan, thank you. let's go to atlanta for the high stakes hearing for doj official jeffrey clark that wrapped up an hour ago. msnbc's katie phang was there. what was your big takeaway, katy? >> the hearing began with all of us wait to go see if jeff clark was going to appear today in federal court behind me. jeff clark did not appear, and that created a snafu at the beginning of the hearing. the judge asking whether or not clark waived his right to appear. his lawyer indicating he didn't realize he had to file the waiver. the defense got up and basically made argument, did not present evidence, and the reason that's critically important for our viewers to understand is because the burden is on the defense when they're attempting to

review their case from state court to federal court. it was an evidentiary hearing that was supposed to take place today, and an argument by lawyers is not by definition evidence. the state of georgia getting up and basically presenting their case through the form of assistant attorney general, jodi hunt. you may recognize that name. he was the attorney representing cassidy hutchinson when she secured new counsel to testify before the january 6th committee. testifying that when he was the assistant attorney general in charge of the division, the same division that jeffrey clark worked in when he was at the doj, that election fraud or election irregularities or voter fraud, that was never within the purview, it didn't make sense, basically, the take away is that jeffrey clark would be involved in any way with the preparation of a letter that he wanted jeff rosen and richard donoghue and himself to sign. those were leadership at doj, chris. he wanted them to signed this

letter so it could be sent to the fake elector states, specifically the state of georgia. at the end of the day, we know that jeffrey rose and richard donoghue refused to sign that letter. we told jeffrey clark, the information contained within the letter, some type of widespread fraud was false and incalifornia that's really the crux of the state's case, against jeffrey clark. his defense getting up and saying, he only wrote a letter that never got sent, and also saying, whatever he did, he did at the behest and direction of president donald trump, and so he's squarely putting his defense at the feet of the former president, making it interesting because trump's lawyer in the state of georgia's case, his criminal defense lawyer was listening to the entire hearing today in the gallery. >> katie phang, always fascinating stuff, thank you so much. could there be a middle ground in the battle over abortion rights? why donald trump is criticizing his own party's handling of the issue, when we return in 60

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breaking news, five americans who were detained in iran for years are now finally free, and on a flight back to the u.s. all that part of the high stakes deal that included unfreezing $6 billion in assets for iran. let's bring in nbc news chief foreign affairs correspondent and my msnbc colleague, andrea mitchell who just was at the united nations. andrea, so we know that they're on a flight back to the u.s. take us through what we know about how they finally got here. >> it was a long process really months if not years of very difficult negotiations, talking to the negotiators last night. those u.s. officials telling us that they finally reached an agreement, and this is not that unusual, it's being criticized on capitol hill, secretary blinken was a little bit emotional after he talked to them. for those of us who have covered us for so long, and interviewed

their families, they have been in prison for years. they finally got out about a month and a half ago, and have been under house arrest, their families could see them on zoom. but to have them back tonight on u.s. soil, reunited with their families is going to be very, not just thrilling for the families, of course. after years in custody in one of the worst prisons in the world, but to be back on u.s. soil and it's a big, you know, a big relief for the for the secretary of state and everyone involved. i should tell you that i just spent an hour of president of iran, and in answer to my question and other questions from a small group of journalists, he said we should be framing this as a humanitarian gesture by iran in prisoner exchange, getting five americans out, these are five americans u.s. officials say who were charged or convicted or at least charged and being held in

custody for non-violent crimes, like a sanction violation, and three of the five, we're told, are electing to stay in the u.s., not going back to iran because they have ties to the u.s. and the money was iranian money, legally made from selling oil to our allies. under the sanction regime, they were allowed to sell a certain amount of oil, and make money from selling to japan and south korea and other of our allies, but they couldn't access it because their currency wasn't compatible, and they couldn't transfer money because of other sanctions so that's why the money was through a very complicated treasury process transferred. the other thing i should tell you, chris, is president repeated something he said to lester holt a week and a half ago in teheran exclusively when we asked again how could we be sure, americans be sure that the money was going to be spent for

food or medicine, not for weapons. he denied that they have done any weapons sales to russia, although the u.s. officials say there has been proof of that since the korean war. and drones have been sold since the ukraine war to russia, and said that they could spend this money, the 6 billion on anything that was a need in iran. so it's very ambiguous, but he's not literally confirming that it will be spent on humanitarian needs like food or medicine, but the u.s. treasury is going to be shortly, and they are insisting and did again last night through these u.s. officials that it will be monitored by every item, every sale will be monitored by the treasury. and that they can be sure that it's not going to go for nefarious means. >> andrea mitchell, just out of that very important meeting with the iranian president, thank you so much for bringing us all of that. let's talk about domestic politics now, donald trump wants

republicans to know that they're really bad at talking about abortion, and true to form, he says he would be able to negotiate a better policy with democrats. >> i speak to a lot of democrats, they want a number. there is a number, and there's a number that's going to be agreed to. and republicans should go out and say the following because i think the republicans speak very highly inarticulately about the subject. i watch some of them without the exceptions, et cetera, et cetera, i said, other than certain parts of the country, you can't -- you're not going to win on this issue, but you will win on this issue when you come up with the right number of weeks because democrats don't want to be radical on the issue, most of them, some do. they don't want to be radical on the issue. >> robert gibbs is a former white house press secretary under president obama, and susan page is the washington bureau chief on usa today.

it's not very often that i feel confident that you and donald trump are on the same page, but would you go so far, robert, as to say, there could be a number of weeks that both democrats and republicans would agree on? >> you know, it's hard to say because i think the challenge that we have in this from a political standpoint is where republicans start that conversation, that debate at. you know, the codifying of roe v. wade would be one thing, but i think when you start to think about whether it's zero weeks or six weeks, which is sort of where republicans started this up, i think it's extraordinarily difficult. donald trump's good at saying the quiet part out loud, which he did, which in this case, is telling everybody just how precarious the abortion position is within the republican party, and how precarious it is within

general election politics, which is clearly something that's on donald trump's mind. i think one of the bigger challenges that donald trump will also have in this is he brags repeatedly about being the person who nominated those supreme court justices who overturned roe v. wade. i think it's a tough message and a tough messenger. >> yeah, well, susan it's been actually stronger support of abortion rights, a poll in your paper in june showed four to one, 23% to 6%, 6% saying they're less supportive, right, or more supportive of abortion restrictions. but is the party listening? do they look at numbers like this? does it move anyone? does it move anything? >> you know, chris, i think this interview that donald trump did with kristen yesterday signalled something important happening in the republican party. since roe v. wade, the

republican presidential has drawn a red line on the issue of abortion, and here we have donald trump who is the likely nominee saying this is an issue for negotiation for those who support abortion rights. that is a big shift. now, the question, i think, is does it get sufficient blow back in the party that this is not going to happen again or is this a sign that the influence of those who have been most strongly opposing abortion rights are having waning influence in the gop. it's also a sign that donald trump thinks he is the nominee. he is moving to a general election position and this is months before the iowa caucuses. >> yeah, and of course susan is right, robert, and he did sound, the former president sounding a little bit like nikki haley, that was her better answers in the first debate, let's be

realistic as republicans, about where we can get on this, not where some people want to go. but even of course as donald trump was warning his own party not to be extreme, he accused the democrats of that, and i want to play that part of the interview with kristen. >> the radical people on this are really the people, the democrats that say after five months, six months, seven month, eight months, and nine months and even after birth, you're allowed to terminate the baby -- >> democrats are not saying that. >> democrats are able to kill the baby after birth. nobody wants that. >> democrats don't want that. >> robert, of course as kristen points out, that's a lie. but can it also be an effective motivator for his base? so on one hand, he's doing as susan said, he's sort of moving toward a general election posture, on the other, is he just trying to also say to the base, i'm with you too? >> yeah, i think this is just a hard issue in order to be able to do both of those things. i have no doubt that donald

trump is embracing some disingenuous political position, and i think it's important to state that what you just heard donald trump say there is categorically not true. it doesn't happen. no one on the democratic side believes that. it's a red herring that you see trump and others pull out somewhat repeatedly. look, i think what donald trump has done, whether he thinks he's the nominee or not, i think he's guaranteed that in the next few debates, there's going to be a pretty loud argument that's going to take place maybe with donald trump, maybe without him on these debate stages, he's going to be joined in iowa, a place dominated by christian conservatives, i think it's going to be fascinating. what donald trump has done is make abortion not a smaller issue in the general election by trying to look for a compromise, but my guess is a much bigger issue because this debate is going to be joined inside of the republican nomination.

>> and i thought it was fascinating, susan, again to your whole point about where republicans think they have to be for a chance in 2024, and mike pence essentially arguing for a minimum, 15-week national ban. i think that is obviously quite the evolution, let's take a listen. >> it's a 15-week minimum ban. i believe it's an idea whose time has come. why would we leave unborn babies in california and illinois and new york to the devices of liberal state legislatures and liberal governors? >> do you think, susan, that is where the larger party, beyond donald trump is going to go as a matter of pragmatic politics. >> it's possible. one thing you need to remember is republicans spent decades arguing that roe v. wade was wrongly decided because it should be an issue left up to the state, a federal ban would

be something at odds with that. i think roberts is right, trump has made this a bigger, not a smaller issue, especially in iowa, and it is the place that ron desantis, the governor of florida needs to make his sense. we'll see if there's the kind of blow back in iowa that creates real problems for donald trump on this issue, and forces the republican party to come down on one side or the other. >> susan page, robert gibbs, great to talk to both of you. thank you. coming up, the troubling new study linking obesity to a drastic rise in heart disease deaths, and the community it's hitting the hardest. and ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy returning to the u.s. for a second time, but the ground has shifted since his last trip to american soil in december. we'll talk to his former adviser about the diplomatic hurdles that lie ahead. you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc. ports" oc can't stop adding stuff to your cart?

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a staggering new report is sounding the alarm on a snowballing health concern that's already hitting close to home for nearly half of all american adults. the american heart association finds that deaths from obesity-related heart disease tripled in 2020 compared to 1999 with the highest mortality rates related to obesity among black patients. black women had a slightly higher mortality rate than black men.

with me dr. uche blackstock, founder and ceo of health company. always great to have you on the show. 20% of american kids, 42% of adults are already diagnosed with obesity. just how severe is the risk of heart disease right now? >> chris, thank you so much for having me, and i'm very glad that we are talking about this article, it's incredibly important. you know, people need to understand that obesity places you at risk of heart disease because it interacts with your blood pressure. it raises your blood pressure, it increases your cholesterol, and usually the bad cholesterol and lowers the good cholesterol, and also increases your diabetes risk, so if we see an increase in obesity among the population, we usually are going to see directly related an increase in heart disease, and heart disease complications and death as a result. >> what do we know about why these numbers are rising so

steadily, and why it hits black communities and specifically black women the hardest? i think that will surprise a lot of people. we tend to think of heart disease as a stronger problem for men, right? >> yeah, actually, you know, there's a lot of data more recently showing that women, and especially more black women are at risk. you know, essentially when you see people developing obesity, blood pressure, heart disease, that is typically a result of chronic stress. yes, that is a result of maybe not having healthy food choices and not being able to work out as much, but i want people to think more of disease as a manifestation of social factors, economic factors, even political factors, and for black women, an increase in heart disease is living at the intersections of racism and sexism. black women are more likely to encounter discrimination in employment and in housing, you know, just trying to live their lives and we're seeing the

american heart association has done studies, as well as some of their researchers showing that perceived discrimination increases the risk of obesity, increases the risk of heart disease, that's why we're seeing these numbers increase today. we have to think about what are the solutions. you know, educating patients is one thing. about 80% of the factors that impact someone's health are systemic factors. we need to look to our health care institutions and our policy makers to develop solutions to counter act what's happening. >> you know, this goes far beyond the united states, the world obesity foundation, and i found this number to be staggering. it says that by 2035, more than half of the world's population will be obese. more than half. maybe if the health consequences don't register, maybe economic consequences, i don't know what's wrong with the messaging here? >> oh, absolutely. you know, i think that we need to make sure that, you know, all

communities, wherever they are, have access to healthy foods, foods that provide a good source of nutrition, have the ability to live in environments where they can exercise because we know that is not the case for all communities because of crime or lack of green space, they may not be, but what we do see is that this increase in obesity is leading to early and premature death, even among young adults, and so we need to think about how do we educate patients, how do we also educate our physicians and health care work force to understand that it's more than just about giving out a prescription, right, it's about changing how those people are living, working and spending their lives every day. >> dr. blackstock, it is always great to have your expertise at times like this, and i thank you so much for taking the time to be on the program. >> to a new msnbc investigation, hospice care has become big business with medicare, now spending $23 billion a year. our colleagues have found the

worrying trend behind it, some fraudsters are targeting hospice, fleecing taxpayers, and harming the patients they're supposed to protect. i want to bring in nbc news senior business correspondent and host, of course, of our 11th hour with stephanie ruhle. stephanie ruhle, this is beyond infuriating. how low will you go to rip off people who are taking -- making use of hospice care? >> i mean, this is a horrible, heartbreaking story, and we needed to talk about it because when you think about who fraudsters target, it's vulnerable people, and who is more vulnerable than families caring for someone, in their ending stages of life. we're seeing all sorts of fraud, massive, egregious fraud, companies making up names of patients and putting them through the medicare system, or companies targeting families, saying, you do need care but you don't necessarily need hospice,

but they convince you you do, once you're in hospice care, you're not getting all sorts of treatments that would help you get better. you are getting treatment that gets charged every single day and just guides you along until the end of your life. i spoke to one woman down in texas, she retired early so she could take care of her mother who took care of her her whole life, in doing so, and working through the hospice process, she realized she was being taken advantage of right, left and center. watch this. >> we kept pushing and pushing for a doctor to come visit mother, but no doctor ever came. >> she did get medications for her mother but from the company's ceo, who's not a doctor but used pre-signed prescriptions. >> what kind of medicine was she taking? was she comfortable? >> yes, they kept her very comfortable. they turned her into a triattic, actually. she was on a fentanyl patch. she took hydromorphone.

>> worried, judy changed providers and wrote her senator asking for an investigation. they were looking into the company, with $60 million in medicare fraud, 13 people pleaded guilty or were convicted. >> what do we do about this? >> the department of justice is taking action. they are going after these fraudsters, they are prosecuting a number of them. the medicare system realizes this, and they have done a big overhaul in this space, they're now evaluating, kicking out hospice providers in the last few months, and states are taking this on. california has a moratorium, there are so many for profit hospice care provide e hold your horses, we're going to look at who we're working on now before we add on any. this message is for families out there. we seek hospice providers at the most vulnerable times, when our families are at the last stages

of life. we can't take it lightly. that woman judy ended up changing hospice providers and in the end, her mom died the way she wanted to, with peace and dignity, everyone deserves that. please, i hate to say don't trust the system, do not trust the system, ask questions, and push, it matters. >> stephanie ruhle, as someone whose own mother had amazing hospice care, there's no substitute. >> there are angels that work in hospice, whenever there's vulnerable people, there can be fraudsters around, pay attention. >> catch the full report on the 11th hour, 11:00 p.m. eastern on msnbc. thank you, my friend. when it comes to the january 6th attack, there seems to be one question that donald trump doesn't want to touch. what it could mean for his looming legal battles. you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc. jansing reports" only on msnbc

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january 6th has been scrutinized and dissected from every conceivable angle, and yet, what was then president donald trump doing during the 187 minute gap between his speech at the ellipse, and when he sent a video message at the time when his vice president and members of congress and so many others were under attack. it's a question trump still refuses to answer.

>> tell me how you watched this all unfold. were you in the dining room watching tv? >> i'm not going to tell you. i'll tell people later at an appropriate time. just so you understand however -- >> what were you doing when the capitol was under attack? >> did you see the statements i made in the oval office, and just outside the oval office. >> absolutely. go home, our police are great. we love everybody. go home. >> i want to know who you called on that day -- >> by the way, nancy pelosi -- why would i tell you that? listen. >> you don't want to talk about that? >> nancy pelosi was a judge of security. she turned down 10,000 soldiers, if she didn't turn down the soldier you wouldn't have had january 6th. >> did you call military or law enforcement? >> i'm not going to tell you anything. >> i want to bring in former u.s. attorney joyce vance, law professor at the university of alabama, and cohost of "sisters-in-law" podcast. we were talking in the last hour as we were listening to some of kristen's other parts of that

interview about it's hard to get donald trump not to talk, but there he was, and i wonder, first of all, what was your take on that response? what did you hear from a legal point of view? >> well, it's surprising because trump is usually quick to be full of bluster on questions like this. the fact that he wasn't here suggests to me that his lawyer may have had a heart to heart with him, and that some of it may have stuck because these are questions where he's very vulnerable in terms of potential criminal liability. >> we should remind people that in washington trump is charged, with among other things, obstruction of an official proceeding and conspiracy to obstruct. the january 6th report calls those 187 minutes a dereliction of duty, but, let's say he was just sitting in the oval office dining room, watching on tv, is

that illegal, can you obstruct something by doing nothing. how does this potentially fit in to the overall case? >> so there's other conduct, earlier conduct, that i think is what's being envisioned by prosecutors when they bring this charge, but this evidence of doing nothing for this extenned period of time, while the capitol is under attack is extraordinary helpful to show trump's state of mind. he wasn't stunned or shocked, he didn't immediately jump in and try to bring things to a conclusion. he was told by some of the folks around him that only he could stop it. and he didn't for this extended period of time, and it's legitimate for the jury to draw an inference that he did not stop it because he hoped it would succeed. that's where prosecutors will take this. >> all right, let's talk about what's happening in fulton county, georgia, we now know that judge scott mcafee sent subpoenas to 900 prospective

jurors, take me inside that process because first of all is 900 kind of a crazy large number, and if you were looking through the prospective jurors, what kind of responses are you looking for. >> so 900 seems about right here. this will be a difficult but not impossible jury to seat. for one thing, anytime you summon prospective jurors to court, many of them will have issues, they might have an ailing parent, they might be in the late stages of pregnancy or starting a new job, some people will go out for the typical reasons like that, in a case like this, a great number of people will have heard a lot about this case, and the judge will have to discern who is able to set aside what they have heard outside of court, and decide the evidence, decide the case based solely on the evidence that they hear in court. so the lawyers will do some questioning, the judge will

probably do the bulk of it, lawyers will get to exclude some jurors, but the judge will have this important job of deciding who is actually qualified to sit on the jury. and it makes sense to have a large group of people so that you don't come up short. >> we're going to talk a lot about jury selection coming up, joyce vance, always good to have you on the program, thank you. >>. the front lines of diplomacy, why this second trip to the u.s. could be a lot different than the first. you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc. reports"c when it comes to getting your flu shot, cvs is pretty... flex. wanna schedule one online while prepping dinner? gravy.

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this week, the ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy will address the united nations to try to get more support for his country's fight against russian forces. zelenskyy will also return to capitol hill where you might remember last december on his first trip to america, he got a hero's welcome. but this is a very different moment, with ukraine struggling to breakthrough with its counter offensive, and the u.s. congress divided on providing more aid. but zelenskyy argues the stakes are nothing short of world war. >> the whole world has to decide whether we want to stop putin or whether we want to start the beginning of a world war. russian society has lost the respect of the world. they elected him and reelected

him, and raised a second hitler. >> joining us now, former adviser to president zelenskyy, igor novakof, how do you think president zelenskyy will approach this trip? will it be different given the decline in support of ukraine in some quarters, especially on the right in congress? >> it will be a completely different trip. this trip brings back memories. i was there with president zelenskyy back in 2019, four years ago, in new york, and the situation was very similar. you know, we had a lot of trump news on tv, and ukraine was a political tennis ball, and unfortunately because of the dissipating attention towards the war, because of ukraine fatigue, because of the election year coming up, the situation is similar, and ukraine's becoming this political tennis ball, and the president is going to new york to try and prevent it.

>> what do you think his message will be to members of congress? he has obviously a friend in president biden, but president biden is also entering a very very heated political season potentially. so we know how that can play into things, but do you think that his diplomatic approach has changed? some people have suggested, he is, for example, been more thankful, more appreciative than he has been in the past, after being counselled by some folks to sort of change that attitude. >> first and foremost, just like every other ukrainian, he's always been grateful for all of the help that we got. it's just a question of communicating that gratefulness in place of saying something more productive and trying to push this war towards a victory. that was the biggest misunderstanding of his communication and intentions. i think, you know, his main

message will be trying to prevent that ukraine fatigue, and prevent that bipartisan unity from falling apart in the election year. why? because president putin cannot be negotiated with. you can't make a deal with putin. let me remind you about prigozhin, the mercenary, he made the deal with putin, how did that work out for him? i think the president is going to be there to remind people about ukraine, and to try and unit that bipartisan support once again. it will be a very difficult job. >> what's the level of nervousness right now among the ukrainian people? what's your level of nervousness when you look at the fact that frankly, the war has gone on much longer than many people bargained for, that the cost has been much higher than they expected to have to pay? >> well, i see on the personal note, i made an interesting observation today. my younger daughter marsha is 4, and been gone for two years, nearly, half of her life, she's

been a war child, and that's a very difficult situation for a parent to kind of come to terms with. in terms of nervousness, on one hand, yes, we are getting nervous as the winter approaches because we're expecting more strikes against critical infrastructure. it's going to be a difficult winter. on the other hand, like, look, we have survived this far, and you know, there's a certain level of adaptation that's taking place also so, you know, i think the nerves have been gone and we want to win. >> how do you see this moving forward, tell me what your sense is on the battlefield and also on the diplomatic field? >> the battlefield, i mean the russian defenses are way better than they were last year when we were retaking in the kharkiv region. on the other hand, let me remind you, what happened last year. i mean, the summer and half of autumn, the counter offensive dragged on, and then suddenly, you know, the russians ran. so if there is always a chance of that, although the counter offense is going slower than

everyone would like. the diplomatic front is the most difficult by far because not only is it an election year next year in the u.s., there are a lot of domestic political processes happening elsewhere in the world, and obviously multiply that by, you know, ukraine fatigue, it's getting more and more difficult by the day to kind of keep that support coming. at the very crucial stage in this war, so obviously that's an up hill struggle, but zelenskyy once again, i think, will prove to everyone that, you know, he has means to surprise people. >> igor, it's always good to have you on the program, your mention of your 4-year-old daughter is a reminder of the stakes here. thank you for coming on. we appreciate it. action ahead of the u.n. assembly in new york, thousands of protesters took to the streets in midtown manhattan this weekend, protesters calling on president biden as well as other world leaders to pivot away from fossil fuels which are

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today in wisconsin, planned parenthood is resuming abortion care and services after a judge ruled that an 1849 law that had been interpreted as banning the procedure actually did not apply to abortions. it comes over a year after abortion clinics across that state stopped offering abortions following roe v. wade. nbc's maura barrett joins me now with the latest. what does this exactly mean for people who are looking for care in wisconsin? >> reporter: well, chris, simply put, abortion is available again for people here in wisconsin. appointments filled here in

milwaukee, and madison, planned parenthood saying they're seeking to expand what they can provide in other locations as well, and this has just been, as you pointed out, a kind of hazy interpretation over the last year because providers were worried that they could be held accountable, prosecuted by law enforcement because of that interpretation of that 1849 law. now, there has been some shifts politically in the courts here in wisconsin over the summer, which is what's triggered all of this new interpretation to that ruling. we heard over the summer the dane county clerk circuit court, excuse me, the judge had issued a ruling saying that that specific law didn't apply to consensual voluntary abortions and that way planned parenthood is able -- they're hinging their decision on that ruling, but it's important to note that litigation is still very much in effect. we expect to see it go up to the state supreme court, but that has a new liberal majority now, and so planned parenthood feels very confident that they won't have to seek any repercussions

or won't have to face any repercussions for the providers, but they do say that they're following the legal rules as they best can interpretation them for now. but flat out abortion is now available again for people in wisconsin, chris. >> maura barrett, thank you. and that's going to do it for us this hour. make sure to joining us for "chris jansing reports" every weekday, 1:00 to 3:00 eastern here on msnbc. our coverage continues with katy tur reports right now. good to be with you, i'm katy tur. former doj official jeffrey clark has made his case, arguing the fulton county charges against him should be moved to federal court. the judge had thoughts and we had someone inside the courtroom. katie phang joins us in a moment to explain what she heard and why it was likely a bad idea that clark didn't show up in person. we are waiting for news out of