but they came together and they stuck together and it wasn't easy. they faced personal and political attacks and intense opposition. but they stuck together to protect individual rights. they came at great political risk for each of these senators, some of whom are facing primary challenges. this was not an easy issue to take on, but they thought it was important enough to fight. >> president kennedy wrote profiles in courage to highlight political leaders who defied popular opinion sometime or pressure to do what they felt was right, even as they faced that severe criticism. recently, ambassador kennedy and her son re-created one mile of the three-mile swim that jfk made in the solomon islands to rescue fellow sailors while serving in the navy in world war ii. we have a lot to cover in our second hour. let's get right to it. at this hour, the u.n.

general assembly in the shadow of russia's war. president biden urging a unified front against putin's aggression, as we wait to hear ukraine's president make hiown personal appeal with his country's future at stake. a cheer for freedom and an outpouring of emotion as five americans wrongfully detained for years in iran hug their families for the first time in such a long time. and turning up the pressure, united autoworkers set a new deadline for detroit's big three carmakers and threaten the strike could expand to more factories. plus, x marks the spot. on your wallet, that is. elon musk reveals plans to charge users a monthly service fee. our nbc news reporters are following all of the latest developments and we go first to nbc's mike memoli in new york city where the ukrainian president is about to speak after president biden tried to galvanize support for their fight against russia.

talk about what the president had to say and what we're expecting from volodymyr zelenskyy. >> reporter: well, chris, of course, president biden has been engaged in the foreign policy business a long time. he was an important part as vice president of the obama administration's diplomatic efforts, and today, after 2 1/2 years of his own administration, he really not just talked about the urgency of crises like the war in ukraine, dealing with the climate crisis, but he laid out his broader vision for a world in which democracies work together to combat the biggest challenges. i want you to listen to part of how the president cast this message today. take a listen. >> as president of the united states, i understand the duty my country has to lead this critical moment. to work with countries in every region, linking them in common cause, to join together with partners who share a common vision of the future of the world. in every region of the world, the united states is mobilizing

strong alliances, personal partnerships, common purpose, collective action to bring new approaches to our shared challenges. >> reporter: as you look at the common thread throughout the president's speech, it's about strengthening and preserving democracy. sometimes it's working through the united nations, also through delivering results, but another part of that is in a very literal sense, supporting a democracy like ukraine, and that's why you have this tag team effort almost. the president this morning laying out the stakes and now volodymyr zelenskyy set to take the stage and deliver even more personal appeal to the members and the broader world. >> and we will have that when it happens. thank you. five americans wrongfully detained in iran are now back on american soil for the first time in years. nbc's gabe gutierrez is following this story for us. what a homecoming they got. right after the plane touched down, families waiting for them. tell us what happened there, gabe.

>> reporter: hi, there. it was a dramatic reunion, as you said, five americans arriving here in virginia just this morning, and we have video of their reunion with their family members, and the family members went up to them, some carrying small u.s. flags, and it was a warm embrace. some said freedom as they were reunited with their loved ones. this comes after years of tense negotiations with iran. i spoke with a source close to one of the prisoners who said that on the plane ride here, they had lamb and wine on the plane, and one of the prisoners wasn't a fan of the wine or wouldn't have been in his previous life, but he said this was just so amazing because he had been in captivity for so many years. the brother of another one of the prisoners spoke on the tarmac a short time after they were reunited. >> we're so grateful to be

together after eight years. it's unbelievable. almost eight years to the day. it's unbelievable. so grateful. you feel like it's a dream. the nightmare is finally over. the real hero of this story surviving eight years of brutal treatment but never losing hope, and showing what happens when you are hopeful, when you fight. >> reporter: it felt like a dream. it was surreal. it was unbelievable. those are all things the family members are now saying. as you know, this prisoner swap has been controversial. republican critics of the biden administration say that the money that was unfrozen, the $6 billion essentially amounted to a ransom payment, but today, the biden administration is pushing back strongly on that, saying that this was not u.s. taxpayer money, and also saying -- >> i need to interrupt you because we need to go to the united nations now. we're seeing president of ukraine, volodymyr zelenskyy, beginning his address to the general assembly.

let's take a listen. >> thank you very much. i welcome all who stand for common efforts and promised being really united we can guarantee for all nations. once more, unity can prevent wars. ladies and gentlemen, mr. secretary-general, mr. president, fellow leaders, so many, many wars, but not as active defending against the aggressions. in many cases, the fear of war, the final war where the loudest here, the war which no one would gather in the general assembly hall again. this third world war was seen as a nuclear war, a conflict between states on the highway to nukes. other wars seemed less scary compared to the threat of the

so-called great powers firing their nuclear stockpiles. so that 20th century taught the world to restrain from the use of the weapons of mass destruction, not to deploy, not to proliferate, not to threaten with, and not to test, but to promote a complete nuclear disarmorment. frankly, this is a good strategy, but it should not be the only strategy to protect the world from the final war. ukraine gave up its largest nuclear arsenal, the world then decided russia should become a keeper of such power. yet history shows it was russia who deserved nuclear disarmament

the most back in the 1990s, and russia deserves it now. terrorists have no right to hold nuclear weapons. no right. but truly, while nukes remain in place, the mass destruction is gaining its momentum. the aggressor is weaponizing many other things, and those things are used not only against our country but against all of yours as well. fellow leaders, there are many conventions that restrict weapons but there are no real restrictions on weaponization. first, let me give you an example. the food. since the start of the full

scale war, the ukrainian ports have been blocked by russia. until now, our ports on the danube river remain the target for missiles and drones. and it is clear russia's attempt to weaponize the food shortage on the global market in exchange for recognition for some if not all of the captured territories. russia is launching the food prices as weapons. they impact from the atlantic coast of africa to the southeast asia, and this is the threat scale. and i would like to thank those leaders who supported our black sea grain initiative and program grain from ukraine. thank you so much. [ applause ]

united, we made weapons turn back into food again. more than 45 nations saw how important it is to make ukrainian food products available on the market, from algeria to spain to indonesia and china. and even now when russia has broken the black sea grain initiative, we're working to maintain food stability and i hope many of you will join us in these efforts. we launched a corridor from our ports, and we are working hard to preserve the land routes for grain exports. and it is alarming to see how some in europe, some our friends in europe, play in political theater, making thriller from the grain, and they may seem to

play their own role, but in fact, they are helping set the stage to a moscow actor. second, weaponization of energy. many times the world has witnessed russia using energy as a weapon. kremlin weaponized oil and gas to weaken the leaders of other countries when they came the red square, and now this threat is even greater. russia is weaponizing nuclear energy. not only it is spreading its unreliable nuclear power plant construction technologies but it is also turning other countries' power plants into real dirty bombs. look, please, what russia did to our zaporizhzhia power plant. shelled it, occupied it, and now

like many others with radiation leaks. is there any sense to reduce nuclear weapons when russia is weaponizing nuclear power plants. scary question. the global security architecture offers no response or protection against such a treacherous radiation threat, and there is no accountability for blackmailers so far. the sure example is children. children. unfortunately, in various terrorist groups, abduct children to put pressure on their families and societies. but never before the mass kidnapping and deportation would become a part of the government policy. not until now. we know the names of tens of thousands of children and have evidence on hundreds of

thousands of others kidnapped by russia in the occupied territories of ukraine and later deported. the international criminal court issued arrest warrants for putin for this crime. and we are trying to get children back home, but time, time goes by. what will happen with them? what will happen to them? those children in russia are taught to hate ukraine. and all ties with their families are broken. and this is clearly a genocide. when hatred is weaponized against one nation, it never stops there. each dictate russia starts a new war. parts of moldova and georgia remain occupied.

russia turned syria into ruins, and if not russia, the chemical weapons would have never been used there in syria. russia has almost swallowed belarus. it is obviously threatening kazakhstan and other baltic states, and the goal of the present war against ukraine is to tear our land, our people, our lives, into a weapon against you. again, the international rules-based order. many sit in the general assembly hall may become empty if russia succeeds with its treachery and aggression. ladies and gentlemen, the aggressor scatters death and brings ruins, even without nukes, but the outcomes are

alike. we see towns, we see villages in ukraine wiped out by russian artillery. leveled to the ground completely. we see the war of drones. we know the possible effects of spreading the war into the cyberspace. the artificial intelligence could be trained to before it would help humanity. thank god people have not yet learned to use climate as a weapon. even though humanity is failing on its climate policy objectives, this means that extreme weather will still impact the normal global life in some evil state will also weaponize its outcomes. and when people in the streets of new york and other cities of the world went out on climate protests, we all have seen them,

and when people in morocco and libya and other countries die as a result of natural disasters, and when islands and countries disappear underwater and then tornadoes and deserts are spreading into new territories, and when all of this is happening when a natural disaster in moscow decided to launch a big war and kill tens of thousands of people. we have to stop it. we must act united to defeat the aggressor and focus all our capabilities and energy on addressing these challenges. as nukes are restrained, likewise, the aggressor must be restrained, and all his tools and methods of war, each war now can become final, but it takes our unity to make sure that

aggression will not break in again, and it is not a dialogue between the so-called great powers somewhere behind the closed doors that can guarantee us all the new wars era, but open war of all nations for peace. last year, i presented the outlines of the ukrainian peace formula at the u.n. general assembly. later, in indonesia, i presented the full formula, and over the past year, it became the basis to obtain the existing security architecture. now we can bring back to life the u.n. charter and guarantee the full power for the rules-based world order. and tomorrow, i will present the details at a special meeting of the u.n. security council. the main thing is that it is not

only about ukraine. more than 140 states and international organizations have supported the ukrainian peace formula fully or in part. the ukrainian peace formula is becoming global. it's points over solutions and steps that will solve all forms of weaponization that russia used against ukraine and other countries and may be used by other aggressors. look, for the first time in modern history, we have real chance to end the aggression on the terms of the nation which was attacked. and this is a real chance for every nation to insure that aggression against your state, if it happens, god forbid, will end, not because your land will be divided and you will be forced to submit to military or political pressure, but because

your territory and sovereignty will be fully restored. we launched the formal meetings between national security advisers and diplomatic representatives, important talks and consultations in hiroshima, in copenhagen on the implementation of the peace formula. and we are preparing a global peace summit. and please, i know all of you who do not tolerate any aggression to prepare for the summit and i am aware of the attempts to make some shady dealings behind the scenes. evil cannot be trusted. ask prigozhin. please, hear me. let unity decide everything

openly. while russia is pushing the world to the final war, ukraine is doing everything to insure that after russian aggression, no one in the world will dare to attack any nation. weaponization must be restrained. war crimes must be punished. deported people must come back home. and the occupier must return to their own land. we must be united to make it. and we'll do it. [ applause ] >> ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy addressing the general assembly of the u.n., speaking with the passion of a leader whose country's future is at stake. the kind of passion that motivated and sustained his population and his military in the fight for that country, and now that he hopes will convince

alies to continue to support the fight for democracy. the overarching message clearly, our fight is your fight. i want to bring in nbc news chief foreign correspondent richard engle, white house correspondent peter alexander, and former spokesperson for the u.s. mission to the u.n. and former nsc director for syria and lebanon. it was, i thought, a really well constructed speech. look, he said we always thought the final war, world war iii, would be essentially a nuclear holocaust. but he said other wars seem less scary, but there are other threats. the aggressor is weaponizing many other things, not just against our country but against yours. >> yeah, i thought that was a very compelling point he's making because he's trying to first humanize it, when he made his comparisons to climate change disasters and say, without trying to dismiss the

fatalities in other climate change disasters, he's saying this is a natural disaster coming from moscow, killing tens of thousands of people, taking children, abducting them. what will it be in the future? that's a genocide. not only is he trying to paint the picture in stark terms for folks, but he's trying to explain, it's not going to stop there. russia already is occupying georgia and moldova. they already invaded. syria is in ruins because of russia. russia swallowed -- i love he's used that term, swallowed belarus. and by the way, this is a point i keep making. it's not going to stop at putin, if putin succeeds at defeating ukraine. it's going to spread around the world. you are already seeing it. azerbaijan today struck against innocent armenians. why? because no one will do anything. it's an attack on democracy all over the world. if you let the system and institutions crumble, everybody is at threat. and when he invokes, for

example, oil as a weapon, food as a weapon, it's not only true that that's the globalization of it, but he's also trying to highlight, by the way, putin has no cards left other than nuclear. that's why he's attacking, trying to inflict pain on everybody. >> and in fact, richard, as i pointed out at the top, this was the president zelenskyy that really got the attention of the world. this was the man who no one outside pretty much ukraine had ever heard of before. and suddenly, he became someone to rally behind. his country did rally behind him with the help of president biden. much of the west rallies behind him. this, however, is without a doubt a rallying cry at a critical time in this war. talk about what you just heard, richard. >> reporter: so i think we have all watched president zelenskyy develop in real time since russia invaded this country a year and a half ago. he was not a well known

international figure before the war. he rose in the headlines of the united states when former president trump tried to blackmail him and not send weapons to ukraine unless he got help looking into hunter biden. but on a global scale, he was not nearly well known. initially, he didn't know much english. that struck me that he gave this entire address to a very important world format in english, speaking nearly 20 minutes and repeated several, i think, important themes. he talked about the country's past. he said ukraine effectively was cheated by a world body that ukraine after the collapse of the soviet union gave up its nuclear weapons, that it had a way of protecting itself from the cold war world, but it gave it up with international assurances from russia and the united states and other countries. now, russia is threatening ukraine with nuclear weapons,

and he said it has turned nuclear sites into weapons by carrying out attacks near them or taking over the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant. it was i thought a quite effective speech because he was doing it in english, which he's gotten much better at. when i have interviewed him in the past, he refused to speak ing english or will only give some of his answers in english. he recognizes the audience. he wants to reach out to americans, to english speakers around the world, and wants to continue to slam that same message that ukraine was betrayed by an international body before. it needs help. otherwise, many in that chamber could lose their own seats if russia is allowed to continue its war unchecked. >> it's a message he's going to bring to washington, d.c. he'll be meeting with president biden who obviously has seen as

a major foreign policy win that he has been able to get countries behind and keep countries behind this war, what he sees as a threat to democracy. little tougher sell in some parts of congress. what are we looking for when we see volodymyr zelenskyy come to washington? >> you're right, president biden has been able to keep the world community together on this so far, but the toughest community to keep together may be in the halls of congress, when volodymyr zelenskyy goes there later this week. we're hearing from republicans even in anticipation of this visit, we have no money to give right now. strikingly, about 55% of americans right now say they oppose authorizing additional funds to ukraine right now. basically, $73 billion is one estimate that's been spent for humanitarian efforts and the war effort. that is the end of the line. this is going to be a critical trip for zelenskyy, meeting with president biden at the white house. they're going to have a visit earlier in the day with lawmakers, zelenskyy will.

he'll likely deliver remarks. this was the best case anyone can make for ukraine is from volodymyr zelenskyy himself, his first in-person visit to the u.n. general assembly. it's why i think and in conversations with advisers to the president, only part of his remarks focused on ukraine. they knew he would make the case on his own behalf, and there are a lot of challenges around the world. one of the challenges you were trying to make was the point to sort of connect this to those developing countries as well. why they should care. food insecurity, the rising price of food right now in large part is due to the russian invasion in ukraine. he has to make all communities recognize why they should care about this war. >> again, in english, in ways people can understand, children being ripped out of their homes, being taken to russia against their will. their parents not knowing where they are. the idea of food insecurity, of people, of children literally starving to death. this broader picture that he wants to bring to the united

states, in terms that anyone, you don't have to have a ph.d. in geopolitics to understand what he's talkingunts. >> absolutely. he's incredibly compelling. and one of the things that will be very interesting, this is almost a prelude to his visit in washington. it comes at a time the white house has been asking for billions of dollars in support. i believe it's $24 billion in support of ukraine, and it's a very precarious time. things are going to get very difficult and heated in the run-up to this election year where you have a number of republican candidates, and their base against continued support for ukraine. so there's a little bit of this race against time, just in case how things turn out. and zelenskyy is aware of that. when he gets to washington, he's going to -- now this was the public effort to play on people's heart strings so they can feel it. there are tens of thousands of kids, i believe it's over 10,000 or 10,000 children who have been abducted and taken to russia. when they're returned, it's about 25 or 30 at a time.

they have a long way to go, and it's very -- what they're doing will have long lasting effects. and it is absolutely genocide. that's why there's this arrest warrant for putin who has been labeled a war criminal. when he gets to washington, i expect his closed door meetings with members of capitol hill to be extremely compelling, and where i think hopefully thursday we'll see more because everything time he visits, he walks out with really good deliverables because he really knows how to make a good argument. >> peter will be back in washington to cover that. thanks for that. thank you so much, all of you. >> thousands of demonstrators flood the streets for climate week. turning up the heat and demanding change, as global temperatures soar. i'll talk to one prominent name on the front lines of this climate fight. washington governor jay inslee will join me next. s in-wash scent boosters keep your laundry smelling fresh waaaay longer than detergent alone. if you want laundry to smell fresh for weeks,

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on the heels of a summer rife with record shattering weather and all that destruction in its wake, more than 75,000 demonstrators descending on new york city for climate week, donning gas masks and polar bear costumes. this was the scene on wall street. more than 100 people zip tied and arrested after blockading the federal reserve building. it was a more low key message from the air to the british throne, wait wading into the east river it check on a oyster reef restoration project.

the calls coincide with the u.n. general assembly. the question is, is anyone really listening? joining me, jay inslee, a democrat and former presidential candidate who has been very active on these issues. you told me in the break because we just came out of the speech by president zelenskyy your state has the highest number of ukrainian refugees of any in the country. i wonder what your thought is and whether you agree with president zelenskyy when he said essentially humanity is tailing its climate challenge. >> he's right and he's courageous, and his linkage of the climate change challenge and the totalitarian horrific actions by putin and linking those two, i think, was very inspiring and accurate. i'll tell you why. totalitarian governments, tyranny thrives where there's chaos, where there's hungry, where there's a lack of stability. nothing creates those conditions more than climate change. you look at the horn of africa where people basically can't grow products there and they're

having destabilizing governments and you see russia using wheat as now a weapon of war. this destabilizes communities, and when that happens, that's whereauthoritarian governments do well. i think he's totally correct. i never thought i would see in my time, a churchill figure, and i have to tell you his inspiration is incredible. i'm glad he's in the position he's in. we need the u.s. congress to say look, in 1943, we certainly should have not stopped fighting tyranny in europe, as we did. in your two of that world war, and we should not stop now. i'm kind of the kennedy generation, i go way back. and when he said we will support every friend and oppose every foe to assure the success and survival of liberty, that's the attitude we should have today. and we have an ally in zelenskyy and the ukrainian people.

>> let's take it back to climate change in this climate week because we also heard from president biden this morning, he said climate change is a priority, but as you know, the world looks to the united states to lead. understanding where congress is and understanding the obstacles that president biden faces, has the administration done everything it needs to do to lead internationally? >> i think the administration has done a cracker jack job. the inflation reduction act was a tremendous step forward of $360 billion in investment. that is tremendous, but we need to go farther and faster than that. the president understands that, that's why he's supported of efforts in our state to go farther and faster. we have 25 states now in the u.s. climate alliance that are going farther and faster. we have a cap and invest program, low carbon fuel standard, we're going to stop connecting gas to homes and businesses. we can go farther and faster than the u.s. congress because

frankly, i don't have to deal with mississippi and alabama. we can move forward, and that's what we're doing. i'm glad now that we have states that can actually advance this agenda. i'm meeting with governors around the world, actually, i was just in korea a couple weeks ago talking to my colleagues. where states and provinces in korea are moving farther and faster. in australia, that's happening as well. the federal government is just one of the groups that need to pull in the rope right now. states need to do it and we're doing that. >> is it not the most important? i don't in any way mean to diminish the things accomplished in washington and these other states, but until other countries can look at the united states and say, here's a country that's leading. here's what they're doing. here's what they're offering. as a path forward, can it go where we need it to go? because as you said, we need to go farther and faster. >> right. i think worldwide, you will see that the world is now giving great props to the united states under the leadership of joe

biden. they certainly were not doing that under donald trump who still continues to argue this is some kind of hoax. the rejection of science here is fatal to us. the world now is happy that we now are leading on this effort. they understand that the inflation reduction act was a game changer. and they do see 60% of the whole u.s. economy moving faster even than congress. those are the states that are in the u.s. climate alliance that former governor jerry brown and i started. i do believe there is a quantum leap in the last couple years of the world actually seeing as leaders, we have something to sell. we have to continue that. we cannot go backwards. to think right now when we have these fires, look, i had 300 families in spokane county lose their homes in the last month from these horrific fires. those fires have been doubling every single decade. the temperature of the water was 99 degrees in florida. we're seeing the floods in libya that might have taken thousands of lives, we're not going back

to the trump cult of saying climate change is a hoax. we're going to go forward, lead the country, and here's the good news. look, i'm onoptimist on this. >> let me ask you about that optimism, because people have lived this summer in a very, very difficult way. you mentioned libya, nearly 4,000 people were killed. and it made up to 50 times more likely because of climate change, what we saw happening there. the u.n. chief didn't mince words earlier. he said it was a sad snapshot of the state of our world, to see bodies wash up on the same shores where billionaires cruise in their yachts. and yet, you say we have to be hopeful. i keep seeing articles in all the newspapers about climate depression. people who are genuinely physically affected by what's happening out there. how do you offer hope? what can any individual do? >> you know what the most

effective antidote to despair is action. getting off the couch and taking action. that's what helps us defeat despair. and fortunately, this action is bearing tremendous fruit. look, in my state, we're putting thousands of people to work in dozens of new technologies. i was at a company the other day that makes artificial diamonds. diamond foundry, they make beautiful artificial diamonds. they're also making a product that can get 6% more range for our electric cars. we have a company called carbon 14, group 14, that essentially can make a whole new battery so cars can run farther. we're getting people heat pumps big time. starting with those who are most disadvantaged. we have the capability of doing this. my bottom line if i was going to say one thing to you about climate change and clean energy is we can do this. we have the technologies to do

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today, as the government barrels toward a shutdown, tensions inside the house republican caucus are at an all-time high. with one faction of ultra conservatives blaming other ultra conservatives for trying to kill a spending deal that could avert the shutdown. the infighting led speaker kevin mccarthy to pull a procedural vote on that bill, and he's warning his party of the political peril they're risking. >> i don't think anybody wins a shutdown. think what a shutdown does, stops paying our troops. how do you have more leverage in that situation. i have watched shutdown after

shutdown. everybody loses. >> ali vitali is on capitol hill. now that the procedural vote has been pulled, what's next? >> reporter: it's frankly chaos here, chris. the way forward is unclear. we know that over the course of the last few hours, key members that have problems with this so-called plan have been huddled inside of the whip's office here, trying to hash out different tweaks that could be made to this bill that would allow them to get a vote on it. as of right now, there's even threats of working through the weekend, and over to the side, as lawmakers come in and out of the house chamber for votes now, there are various gaggles happening with key lawmakers who were in that room. and the real sense that i have gotten from talking to them is that this is really the venting phase still. the days are ticking down on the calendar as we get closer to a shutdown, but they're not even in agreement over what the top line appropriations numbers are, let alone what those numbers should be for each of the

subsequence 12 appropriations bills. that means they're really early in this process, and we're really late on the calendar. none of it inspires confidence. you saw house speaker kevin mccarthy there, saying that no one wants a shutdown, but the reality is that there are some members within his conference who are perfectly fine with shutting down the government if it means being able to have more leverage to get what they want on steeper spending cuts. there is really just this sense of a stalemate now or a shruggy emoji, whatever you want to call it, chris. it's really unclear how they move forward here because they're squarely in the talking phase. nothing is on paper, and nothing is clear for how they'll avert this shutdown. >> ali vitali, always good to have you on the program, even when it is what it is. thank you so much. appreciate it. rallying support on the world stage, the emotional plea from ukraine's president, volodymyr zelenskyy, at the u.n. general assembly. you're watching chris jansing reports only on msnbc.

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republicans in congress are sharply divided over whether to grant president biden's request for billions of dollars in additional aid. i want to bring in max boot, "washington post" columnist and fellow for national security studies at the council on foreign relations. always good to see you, max. house speaker kevin mccarthy raised familiar concerns about how u.s. money is being spent in ukraine. let me play that. >> is zelenskyy elected to congress? is he or president? i don't think i have to commit anything. i have questions. where is the accountability on the money we've sent. i want account pblts for what the hardworking taxpayers spend their money on and i want a plan for victory. >> in your latest column it was interesting you argue this war is sometimes a bewildering combination of new and old technologies and tactics and compared it to sometimes a mash up of all quiet on the western front and blade runner. how does zelenskyy go to washington and convince the

skeptics this is a winnable war? >> i mean, i think he's done a very good job in the past. he is in many ways ukraine's best advocate and the message is, a, this is a righteous cause. that is the most important thing to stress and point out, russia has launched this evil, unprovoked war of aggression. there is no question about who the good guys are and the bad guys are. it's clear that president zelenskyy is fighting for freedom, for dignity, for human rights and all the values we as americans hold dear. the second point to stress is, the ukrainians have had tremendous success against heavy odds in stopping the russian onslaught. remember, at the beginning of the war in february of 2022 a lot of people thought the russians would march into kyiv in three days. instead the russians were rolled back and it is the ukrainians on the offensive and the russians on the defensive and the

ukrainians are making gains, they are advancing. they have penetrated the first russian line of defense in southern ukraine. it's a very hard fight, but the ukrainians are willing to do it. they are willing to keep on fighting because they want to liberate their own soil. they're not asking us as americans to provide american troops. they're not asking us to risk a single soldier in defense of ukraine. all they're asking for is the tools to finish the job. as winston churchhill put it during world war ii. most people in washington would agree that is a smart bet morally and strategically. in fact, mitch mcconnell, the republican leader in the senate, has been very eloquent saying this is not the time to go wobbly. i wish he would communicate that message to kevin mccarthy and some of the faint-hearted house republicans. >> i mean, that's really -- well, there are a lot of arguments they make, but one is, where is the end? is the end in sight? what's the answer to that?

>> the end will be in sight whenever russia ends their evil war of aggression and agrees to give ukraine's territory back to the people of ukraine. when is that going to happen? very hard to predict. a lot will depend on gains on the battlefield and a lot will gends on what happens in the united states because right now, given how pro-putin former president donald trump is, putin has no real incentive to negotiate before the u.s. presidential election in november 2024 because he's hoping trump will win and cut off ukraine. there are a lot of factors that go into this, but the ukrainians are still fighting. their moral is excellent and i think it is very much in our interest to keep supporting them. >> as you and i know what's happening on the battlefield is only one part of it. another big part is volodymyr zelenskyy doing what he has done so successfully this time before the united nations and you also write in "the washington post" whenever the ukrainians score an

impressive hit they're quick to publicize the results and release videos to win the battle of the narrative. talk about how kyiv has used social media, how volodymyr zelenskyy has used his own rhetorical skills to boost morale and boost support for the war effort? >> it's helpful to have a former actor as president. the united states learned that in the 1980s when ronald reagan was a master communicator and you see that with zelenskyy, another former actor who is also a master communicator and has done a tremendous job of getting ukraine's message out. it's not just him but so many other ukrainians throughout society who independently are taking to social media to get the word out. people in the government, people outside the government. that's because they are energized because they know they are fighting in a good cause. they are fighting to save their homes and families. you don't -- in russia you see state propaganda, but in ukraine you hear the voice of the people. >> matt boot, always good to see

you. thank you so much. since the start of the war we talked about this, hundreds of thousands of ukrainian children have been illegally deported to russian territory according to president zelenskyy. a kremlin policy that he described as genocide. >> what happened to them? those children in russia are taught to hate ukraine and all ties with their families are broken and this is clearly a genocide. >> a new documentary from nbc news digital docs team follows one ukrainian mother's 3,000 mile journey to find her son and bring him home. molly hunter joins us now with that story. molly, what did you learn? >> chris, nice to be with you. we thought president zelenskyy would speak about this issue. it is something close to his heart he has spoken powerfully about before and the ukrainian officials we interviewed for the documentary echoed zelenskyy, this is a state-sponsored plan

since the beginning of the invasion. take a quick look at this clip and i will talk to you on the back end. >> reporter: on the school's social media account, video of children dressed up singing patriotic russian songs. ♪♪ there are also photos of nikita in a classroom. in one photo boys in military uniforms, artem with a z on his sleeve, a popular russian symbol of support for the invasion. this city is just about 200 miles from kharkiv, but getting there through ukraine was impossible through dangerous active fighting and a constantly moving front line. so to find nikita, oxana had to travel 3,000 miles through four countries to wind up pretty close to home.

>> reporter: now chris, as zelenskyy said, ukrainian officials have two big fears. the first for older children indoctrination and the second for the youngest children is they may be too young, too vulnerable and disappear into the system. the window to rescue them you closing. >> molly hunter, thank you. watch "saving nikita" on nbcnews.com. make sure to join us for "chris jansing reports" every weekday from 1:00 to 3:00 p.m. here on msnbc. katy tur reports starts right now. >> good to be with you. unga news including president zelenskyy and biden's push to continue support for ukraine, which by the way, is